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Aria vs. Matriarch Benezia vs. Liara vs. Samara/Morinth vs. Matriarch Ethyeta


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Seems like Aria is a fan favorite, I don't have an opinion good or bad about her.  However, I feel as if my Shepard shouldn't have to bow down to her and kiss her purple ass because she beat up a Krogan and is the Queen of Omega.  Yes, I'm feeling dramatic.

My question is this, out of all of the Asari's we've seem like the ones I've mentioned (or did not mention), which do you think is the strongest?

I would say Samara/Morinth and Liara.  Aria doesn't impress me as much as those three.

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JadeEffect wrote...

Seems like Aria is a fan favorite, I don't have an opinion good or bad about her.  However, I feel as if my Shepard shouldn't have to bow down to her and kiss her purple ass because she beat up a Krogan and is the Queen of Omega.  Yes, I'm feeling dramatic.

My question is this, out of all of the Asari's we've seem like the ones I've mentioned (or did not mention), which do you think is the strongest?

I would say Samara/Morinth and Liara.  Aria doesn't impress me as much as those three.


Not quite sure who the most powerful is but I'm definitely most impressed by Aria. Becoming the self proclaimed queen of Omega couldn't have been easy. She's closey followed by Liara. Her character change from ME1 to ME2 does seem a tad bit insane, but she is what she is now and thats one damn resourceful Asari gone shadowbroker.

Modifié par Flashlegend, 11 juin 2011 - 03:38 .


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Wait for Morinth to be in her Matriarchal stage (in about 560 years?).

She is as strong as Samara now. In her Matriarchal stage, she would be unstoppable.

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Biotic-wise, I think they're all pretty much on the same spot...
But, Aria's got the trickiness + experience, Samara, Benezia and Ethyeta the experience and Liara the brains...

But in the end it would be Aria vs Liara because Aria is Omega and Liara is the Shadow Broker, and they got much more resources and men to put in front of them than the other... Morinth could "indoctrinate" some followers, but still wouldn't compare.

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Dexi wrote...

Biotic-wise, I think they're all pretty much on the same spot...
But, Aria's got the trickiness + experience, Samara, Benezia and Ethyeta the experience and Liara the brains...

But in the end it would be Aria vs Liara because Aria is Omega and Liara is the Shadow Broker, and they got much more resources and men to put in front of them than the other... Morinth could "indoctrinate" some followers, but still wouldn't compare.


Morinth/Samara use Biotic Shockwave like they used in the Final walk against the Collectors.

Goons are now irrelevant.

:lol:^_^

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Lady Benezia is the most powerful as a Matriarch. We have little information on Matriarch Ethyeta to judge her combat abilities or even know if she is a Biotic. Samara is technically still middle age for an Asari and not yet a Matriarch though her skills as a Justicar may rival those of a Matriarch.

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Some some scented oil and bikinis and I'm so in.

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Aria's my favourite asari, don't know how she is in a fight but she must be pretty good to have got to where she has. Never liked Liara, Samara - meh, Morinth - always dead.

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Kakistos_ wrote...

Samara is technically still middle age for an Asari


http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Samara

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In terms of pure combat/biotic prowess I think both Aria, Aethyta, Benezia and Liara would be obliterated by Samara (who I believe would be a better warrior than Morinth, Morinth has the same biotic powers but lacks combat training). Though with Shepard at her side Liara would win of course...

Aria talks a great deal but I've yet to see her in action. It sure sounds like she hasn't had a serious fight since her fight with Patriarch, after which she lets her goons handle business. I wouldn't be surprised if she's not nearly as strong as she claims she is.

*Activate scouter*
Shepard: Hah! Her power level is only level 5.

Benezia/Aethyta are (were for benezia) both matriarchs that have strong biotic powers naturally, they're still (imo) inferior to Samara who has been trained in combat for the last 400(!) years straight.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 11 juin 2011 - 04:02 .


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My vote goes to Aria and Benezia for having the brains to pull off some wicked xanatos gambits that the others couldn't hope to touch. Liara has potential, but she's too young and inexperienced for now. Give her another 500 years and she'll be frightening. Morinth and Samara both boil down to relying on brute force, which can be misdirected by those with an ounce of wit. As for Aethyeta...she polishes a bar. She can serve everyone else drinks.

Modifié par marshalleck, 11 juin 2011 - 04:07 .


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Robhuzz wrote...

In terms of pure combat/biotic prowess I think both Aria, Aethyta, Benezia and Liara would be obliterated by Samara (who I believe would be a better warrior than Morinth, Morinth has the same biotic powers but lacks combat training). Though with Shepard at her side Liara would win of course...

Aria talks a great deal but I've yet to see her in action. It sure sounds like she hasn't had a serious fight since her fight with Patriarch, after which she lets her goons handle business. I wouldn't be surprised if she's not nearly as strong as she claims she is.

*Activate scouter*
Shepard: Hah! Her power level is only level 5.

Benezia/Aethyta are (were for benezia) both matriarchs that have strong biotic powers naturally, they're still (imo) inferior to Samara who has been trained in combat for the last 400(!) years straight.


Liara & her mother Benezia would beat the crap out of them in a single fight just for one reason, Stasis. The amount of damage you can deal to an enemy who's getting out of stasis is incredible, then throw another stasis, repeat & rinse.

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Radwar wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

In terms of pure combat/biotic prowess I think both Aria, Aethyta, Benezia and Liara would be obliterated by Samara (who I believe would be a better warrior than Morinth, Morinth has the same biotic powers but lacks combat training). Though with Shepard at her side Liara would win of course...

Aria talks a great deal but I've yet to see her in action. It sure sounds like she hasn't had a serious fight since her fight with Patriarch, after which she lets her goons handle business. I wouldn't be surprised if she's not nearly as strong as she claims she is.

*Activate scouter*
Shepard: Hah! Her power level is only level 5.

Benezia/Aethyta are (were for benezia) both matriarchs that have strong biotic powers naturally, they're still (imo) inferior to Samara who has been trained in combat for the last 400(!) years straight.


Liara & her mother Benezia would beat the crap out of them in a single fight just for one reason, Stasis. The amount of damage you can deal to an enemy who's getting out of stasis is incredible, then throw another stasis, repeat & rinse.


You get immune to stasis over time.

You don't get immune to Reave or Dominate.

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Kakistos_ wrote...

Lady Benezia is the most powerful as a Matriarch. We have little information on Matriarch Ethyeta to judge her combat abilities or even know if she is a Biotic. Samara is technically still middle age for an Asari and not yet a Matriarch though her skills as a Justicar may rival those of a Matriarch.



Lol all Asari are biotics silly.  We know Aethyta is good at slapping people's asses with singularity and she enjoys watching people being kicked in the quad.  Her father was a krogan.
 
Also, Samara says she is nearly 1000 years old.  She's definitely not middle aged, and if she isn't already a matriarch, she may as well be by the time ME3 comes out. 

Age is the biggest factor here, imo, regarding power level.  We know that experience is just as important as skill/power, and the matriarchs seem inherently more powerful because of their experience and wisdom.

Morinth > Liara > Samara > Aethyta > Benezia > Vasir > then Aria.   Not even Wrex could take down Aria  (assuming she is this "Aleena" Wrex spoke of during his story) and Wrex is super awesome.  If she is, I definitely think Aria would win out over any other Asari in a battle.  Although I don't think she's quite old enough to be a Matriarch, Aria arguably has just as much combat battle experience as a Justicar. 

Tela Vasir is a spectre, so she probably rivals the best Asari commandos out there.  Ultimately it would be difficult to judge, but Vasir and Aria seem to have the attitude to back up their ass kicking life styles.  Excpet for Vasir, of course.  R.I.P. shadow broker goon -.-

Modifié par DxWill10, 11 juin 2011 - 04:22 .


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Isn't Samara trained to deal with other Asari and biotics? My vote would go to her.

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Even though Aria's supposed great biotic potential comes from stories rather than action? We've never even seen what Aria is capable of. I find it hard to believe Aria could beat Wrex, let alone Samara (I still think Samara, as a justicar, is far more powerful than any other asari out there) except for probably tela vasir and other asari spectres.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 11 juin 2011 - 04:16 .


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Robhuzz wrote...

Even though Aria's supposed great biotic potential comes from stories rather than action? We've never even seen what Aria is capable of. I find it hard to believe Aria could beat Wrex, let alone Samara (I still think Samara, as a justicar, is far more powerful than any other asari out there) except for probably tela vasir and other asari spectres.


She *runs* Omega. You don't get to a position like that being a slouch. Aria knows exactly what she's doing and how to handle people, in combat or otherwise. Her position speaks for itself. 

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[quote]DxWill10 wrote...
Morinth > Liara > Aethyta > Benezia > Vasir > then Aria./quote]

You do remember that Morinth and Samara were in a Stalemate, right?

Although I do agree that Aria would be one of the mos powerful.

Modifié par Dannyboy9876, 11 juin 2011 - 04:22 .


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[quote]Dannyboy9876 wrote...

[quote]DxWill10 wrote...
Morinth > Liara > Aethyta > Benezia > Vasir > then Aria./quote]

You do remember that Morinth and Samara were in a Stalemate, right?

Although I do agree that Aria would be one of the mos powerful.

[/quote]

Thanks for reminding me to add Samara, I forgot about her :o

Modifié par DxWill10, 11 juin 2011 - 04:24 .


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Robhuzz wrote...

Even though Aria's supposed great biotic potential comes from stories rather than action? We've never even seen what Aria is capable of.


She fights against some collectors in "Incursion"

http://comics.ign.co.../1100605p1.html

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Morinth with the proper Hipster diet would destroy any other Asari biotic.

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Barquiel wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Even though Aria's supposed great biotic potential comes from stories rather than action? We've never even seen what Aria is capable of.


She fights against some collectors in "Incursion"

http://comics.ign.co.../1100605p1.html


Thanks for that. I completely forgot about that stuff.

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If you want to see the entire Incursion comic(where Aria annihilates the Suns and Collectors) its on Dark Horse's myspace-

Direct link to story

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Dannyboy9876 wrote...

Radwar wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

In terms of pure combat/biotic prowess I think both Aria, Aethyta, Benezia and Liara would be obliterated by Samara (who I believe would be a better warrior than Morinth, Morinth has the same biotic powers but lacks combat training). Though with Shepard at her side Liara would win of course...

Aria talks a great deal but I've yet to see her in action. It sure sounds like she hasn't had a serious fight since her fight with Patriarch, after which she lets her goons handle business. I wouldn't be surprised if she's not nearly as strong as she claims she is.

*Activate scouter*
Shepard: Hah! Her power level is only level 5.

Benezia/Aethyta are (were for benezia) both matriarchs that have strong biotic powers naturally, they're still (imo) inferior to Samara who has been trained in combat for the last 400(!) years straight.


Liara & her mother Benezia would beat the crap out of them in a single fight just for one reason, Stasis. The amount of damage you can deal to an enemy who's getting out of stasis is incredible, then throw another stasis, repeat & rinse.


You get immune to stasis over time.

You don't get immune to Reave or Dominate.




With the amount of damage you can deal when your enemy gets out of Stasis, they wouldn't need more than 2 stasis, I even doubt they would need more than one.

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DxWill10 wrote...

Kakistos_ wrote...

Lady Benezia is the most powerful as a Matriarch. We have little information on Matriarch Ethyeta to judge her combat abilities or even know if she is a Biotic. Samara is technically still middle age for an Asari and not yet a Matriarch though her skills as a Justicar may rival those of a Matriarch.



Lol all Asari are biotics silly.  We know Aethyta is good at slapping people's asses with singularity and she enjoys watching people being kicked in the quad.  Her father was a krogan.
 
Also, Samara says she is nearly 1000 years old.  She's definitely not middle aged, and if she isn't already a matriarch, she may as well be by the time ME3 comes out. 

Age is the biggest factor here, imo, regarding power level.  We know that experience is just as important as skill/power, and the matriarchs seem inherently more powerful because of their experience and wisdom.

Morinth > Liara > Samara > Aethyta > Benezia > Vasir > then Aria.   Not even Wrex could take down Aria  (assuming she is this "Aleena" Wrex spoke of during his story) and Wrex is super awesome.  If she is, I definitely think Aria would win out over any other Asari in a battle.  Although I don't think she's quite old enough to be a Matriarch, Aria arguably has just as much combat battle experience as a Justicar. 

Tela Vasir is a spectre, so she probably rivals the best Asari commandos out there.  Ultimately it would be difficult to judge, but Vasir and Aria seem to have the attitude to back up their ass kicking life styles.  Excpet for Vasir, of course.  R.I.P. shadow broker goon -.-

Not all Asari are Biotics only most are. Samara is around 700 years young which for an Asari is not automatically Matriarch age. Shifting into that stage of life has measurable changes in an Asari and each Asari is unique, going into stages at her own time. Being on the verge of average Matriarch age and the fact that on one ever explicitly mentions that Samara is a Matriarch leads me to beleive that she is still in her Matron stage. Aria is a skilled Asari huntress/commando who appears to be in the beginning/mid of her Matron stage and it is very unlikely that she is of the caliber of Justicar.