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[Bachi1230]

I just don't want my only options to be with someone (straight or homosexual) to be,
-Flirt
-Ignore
-Insult
I want to be friends with my crew members and I really dislike how if you didn't romance some crew members conversations with them just ended.

[Ryzaki]

ForumPortal wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

ForumPortal wrote...

Just hope they introduce new bi romances, Bioware, please don't retcon any previous romances like Miranda or Kaiden

 

Agreed. 

I have no problems with established characters *coughJOKERcough* but established romances should be left alone. 

I too love to romance Joker <3

But not Jacob 

 

...if Jacob was the m/m option I'd laugh and cry at the same time. 

[diskoh]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

diskoh wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Alright, just checking. I had a discussion about this before and some said that the Tali and Garrus romances were retcons but making Ashley and Kaidan bi would not be retconning. I just wanted to see what you thought. Thanks.

Whoever told you that is just sily. It's a false dichotomy to say that either someone declares their feelings right away, or they can never have them. It doesn't make any sense in a realistic fluid relationship atmosphere. People develop feelings over time, and they may not be comfortable revealing them right away.

I think the Tali romance was handled beautifully, don't you? It was really sweet and cute and above all, believable. I have faith in the writers to handle the same sex romance just as well, no matter who it is.

Ask around, you'd be surprised who believes that.

I agree completely. The only thing I'm worried about is how the writers will handle it (other than that, I don't care).
And also some people will just complain either way.

I don't worry about the writers. I've found all of the romances to be genuine and well written. I don't see any reason that a gay one would be different.

I mean I do appreciate that people don't want it to seem "cheap" or like they're shoehorning it onto an established character, but I just don't forsee it coming across that way. I consider Mass Effect to be the best sci-fi story ever told, and i think the writers are too good to pull a stunt like that. So I'm not worried.

[Antivenger]

Jack was implied to be bisexual. On the flip-side, Thane had a wife.

As for Garrus and Tali, it's already dangerous doing it with a human of the opposite sex. S/S would mean a lot of poisonous.. licking and awkward, uncomfortable, itchy grinding O_O

VS has been gone for 3-4 years. They're the most likely.

[Shishmish]

Well, its nothing unheard of really. In DA:O it was Zevran, in DA2 it was an all out sausage fest with everybody (which was kinda unbelievable really), so its no surprise this comes to another BioWare game. I actually heard somewhere that Kaidan was to be a homosexial interest in ME1 but didnt make it through. I wonder why.

[Ryzaki]

Bachi1230 wrote...

I just don't want my only options to be with someone (straight or homosexual) to be,
-Flirt
-Ignore
-Insult
I want to be friends with my crew members and I really dislike how if you didn't romance some crew members conversations with them just ended.

 

And good lord this. 

Talking to Jack as my dude Shep was painful. She pretty much told me to kick rocks (or F*** OFF!) if I wasn't gonna romance her. <_<

[diskoh]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Bachi1230 wrote...

I just don't want my only options to be with someone (straight or homosexual) to be,
-Flirt
-Ignore
-Insult
I want to be friends with my crew members and I really dislike how if you didn't romance some crew members conversations with them just ended.

This.

There should be a "just firends" dialogue route, not just those three. I would love to have friendship dialogue.

Oh man i agree with that so much. It really bugged me how if you didn't romance Miranda, it just cut off and she said "Well, bye, I don't have time to talk for the entirety of the rest of the game."

I wish there was something like a "platonic romance" where you can hang out with the person, maybe go grab drinks, and get to know them on a deep level like in the romances but not actually flirting with them.

[Ryzaki]

Kaidan wasn't meant to be a homosexual romance. People just saw that Dude Shep (and only Dude Shepard Kaidan has no romance dialogue for a m/m option) was saying some of FemShep's lines (the devs had Meer read the female script in case they wanted to use some of the lines for a romance. It didn't pan out because they didn't think it did justice to the characters and it didn't sound right).

[The Interloper]

Doesn't Tali make an aborted pass on femshep in Me2?

[diskoh]

The Interloper wrote...

Doesn't Tali make an aborted pass on femshep in Me2?

Yes, it starts off exactly like the f/m romance with the linking suit stuff, then she gets flustered and drops it.

In the LotSB her interest in femShep is confirmed by messages in the terminals aboard his ship.

[Fragglespank]

The Interloper wrote...

Doesn't Tali make an aborted pass on femshep in Me2?

She never tried it on with any of my femsheps.


Maybe she doesn't think they're pretty.

[shepskisaac]

Kaidan and Ashely were considered for same-sex romances but the lines from opposite-sex romances didn't fit when copy pasted into same-sex romances and due to time constraints they didn't have time to create new ones along with new cutscenes for same sex romances, hence the idea was dropped.

[sympathy4saren]

If any of the guys on my squad as much as flirts with me I'm gonna be mad

[Shishmish]

Ryzaki wrote...
It didn't pan out because they didn't think it did justice to the characters and it didn't sound right).

The explanation seems kinda vague maybe? What exactly sounded wrong, I may get a mountain of sh!t for saying this, but Keidan did seem the type for some reason..

Could it be possible it was a bit too contraversial for a game at that time (2007)? Was it done in any game before ME?

[SuperMain]

The gay relationships don't really do anything for me personally, but I applaud Bioware for doing it.

[ForumPortal]

IsaacShep wrote...

Kaidan and Ashely were considered for same-sex romances but the lines from opposite-sex romances didn't fit when copy pasted into same-sex romances and due to time constraints they didn't have time to create new ones along with new cutscenes for same sex romances, hence the idea was dropped.

Didn't they dropped it because of Shepard being "pre-define" and not time issue.

Where the source of this information

[diskoh]

Ryzaki wrote...

Kaidan wasn't meant to be a homosexual romance. People just saw that Dude Shep (and only Dude Shepard Kaidan has no romance dialogue for a m/m option) was saying some of FemShep's lines (the devs had Meer read the female script in case they wanted to use some of the lines for a romance. It didn't pan out because they didn't think it did justice to the characters and it didn't sound right).

Recording it is one thing, building the code and animations and putting it all into the game is another. All of the dialogue is on the disc. That shows intent.

[shepskisaac]

ForumPortal wrote...
Didn't they dropped it because of Shepard being "pre-define" and not time issue.

Where the source of this information

What do you think "Shepard is pre-defined" was? Nothing more than excuse for lack of male s/s option, one that made zero sense anyway considering FemShep had lesbian relationships and flings in both games. And the source of the information is on this board, one of the devs here said it was dropped due to time constraints.

[Ryzaki]

diskoh wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Kaidan wasn't meant to be a homosexual romance. People just saw that Dude Shep (and only Dude Shepard Kaidan has no romance dialogue for a m/m option) was saying some of FemShep's lines (the devs had Meer read the female script in case they wanted to use some of the lines for a romance. It didn't pan out because they didn't think it did justice to the characters and it didn't sound right).

Recording it is one thing, building the code and animations and putting it all into the game is another. All of the dialogue is on the disc. That shows intent.

Here.  

First post is Patrick Weekes. 

[diskoh]

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Shishmish wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
It didn't pan out because they didn't think it did justice to the characters and it didn't sound right).

The explanation seems kinda vague maybe? What exactly sounded wrong, I may get a mountain of sh!t for saying this, but Keidan did seem the type for some reason..

Could it be possible it was a bit too contraversial for a game at that time (2007)? Was it done in any game before ME?

You could kiss guys in Rockstar's Bully which was released befor ME1.

Also other Bioware games. KOTOR at least.

[ForumPortal]

Can moderators close this, its starting to stray off-topic

[HTTP 404]

funny how romance, straight or gay, is important to many here....

[diskoh]

Ryzaki wrote...

diskoh wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Kaidan wasn't meant to be a homosexual romance. People just saw that Dude Shep (and only Dude Shepard Kaidan has no romance dialogue for a m/m option) was saying some of FemShep's lines (the devs had Meer read the female script in case they wanted to use some of the lines for a romance. It didn't pan out because they didn't think it did justice to the characters and it didn't sound right).

Recording it is one thing, building the code and animations and putting it all into the game is another. All of the dialogue is on the disc. That shows intent.

Here.  

First post is Patrick Weekes. 

Noted.