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Dannyboy9876 wrote...
Rather than players being all like "BioWare will fail, they are lacking creativity, it'd be nicer to see "You guys should think about this, or do this, it would make it better." It's hard to know what to improve upon when people are stating that they lack creativity and their games are nonsensical. 


I'll admit people could structure their topics better to be less flammatory. (This is sort of one of those, but whatever.) And why can't someone doubt Bioware's creativity anyways? Many people are accused for lacking creativity all the time. I don't think it's some sort of infallible attribute. Some people's criticism may be harsh, but unless they are insulting Bioware by saying they suck, are lazy, etc. what's the issue?

Generally speaking if I do criticque something I almost always offer a suggestion for what I believe to be an improvement. As do most others, usually.


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No, because nearly all threads on these forums are nitpicking, hardly any praise the games (except ME1 worshippers).



I think people should be free to like whichever game they want. Both or niether as the case may be. I like both, but I think both also have problems. (I'll always admit I like ME1 a bit more.) I dunno what's nitpicking? I'd say nitpicking would be complaining  that visors stick through FemShep's hair. Or that the texture on a character's collar looks low resolution. Even as nitpicky as those things are the Devs still apparently value the feedback.

People asked where are Bathrooms (I think that's nitpicky) but hey in ME2 you can now flush a toilet for giggles. Maybe not a groundbreaking addition to the game, but those little touches of thought and care just make the game that much better.

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It's just that some of these threads generate the least acceptable criticism. Accusing BioWare of lacking artistic creativity is the latest one. You can't disagree that some of these threads complaints are outright ridiculous.


Sometimes. Very subjective though. You have many people with many different views visiting this site. Just because someone doesn't hold your particular beliefs doesn't make them wrong. But BSN has always been this way since it launched. (Personally the old forums were better since spam wasn't allowed at all from what I remember.) But people complain, always will, always have. As much as you love something there will probably also be someone who hates it. Some come here to voice disappointment, others to praise. Niether side is any more "worthy" or "righteous".

If there are things that would ruin the game I'm sure Bioware might be interested to know what that those things may be for some players. If 95% of the fanbase feels Multiplayer (I don't BTW) would ruin Mass Effect, they probably shouldn't add it since a lot of people don't want it. Bioware is running a business as much as they are making video games "art". They need to make the game something their consumers want.

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reused areas as in ME1

I used to complain about that. But after playing DA2, I decided to keep my mouth shut.

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Perfecti0nist wrote...

ME2 squadmates reduced to pathetic cameos.

Choices not impacting anything.

TIM being just another villain.

ME2's romances ignored.

Everyone being bisexual.

RPG elements toned down for the COD crowd.



^^^ All of these, too.

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There really isn't anything to ruin ME3 for me at this point, because unfortunately I'm expecting very little.

Just wanna finish up the plot, then obsess something else.

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A new personality for Ashley to go along with her redesign... I swear she better be the same Ash.

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Sarevok Synder wrote...


Well, for me at least; this is Biowares last chance. With the RPG elements stripped from ME2, then the insult that was DA2. How ME3 turns out will determine if I ever purchase another one of their games again. There are plenty of shooters, many of which are superior, to choose from already, I don't want one with a dialog wheel.


I agree 100%.

Btw, the closest to a true RPG you can get in 2011, until Skyrim arrives of course, is the Witcher 2. It is not without its faults, but I really enjoyed the really grey moral flavour to all your choices. None of the ridiculously pitch black and snow white morality choices forced on us by almost every other game with a choice mechanism.

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No krogan team mates.

The storyline being to simple and short.

Having to babysit just one planet

No new romances or no romance options counting form ME 1 and 2

Joker not having his funny moments anymore.

No E.D.I

Both Geth Factions not showing.

Things like that.

Modifié par Talosred, 12 juin 2011 - 02:31 .


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Garrus' mandatory death.

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The story. If Reapers dont win, I wont like it. I can tell they will, the only reason I still hang around this fourm is its entertaining.

But yeah I absolutely HATE it, when a being/group is hyped up, portrayed as near godlike beings that make you feel insignificant. Only for you to win becuase you are the "good" guy. If you want a victory make it some reasonable enemy you fight e.g covenant in Halo.

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iakus wrote...

Catsuits or bare skin in firefights/hostile environents


You need high heels in there as well.

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fiendling wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...


Well, for me at least; this is Biowares last chance. With the RPG elements stripped from ME2, then the insult that was DA2. How ME3 turns out will determine if I ever purchase another one of their games again. There are plenty of shooters, many of which are superior, to choose from already, I don't want one with a dialog wheel.


I agree 100%.

Btw, the closest to a true RPG you can get in 2011, until Skyrim arrives of course, is the Witcher 2. It is not without its faults, but I really enjoyed the really grey moral flavour to all your choices. None of the ridiculously pitch black and snow white morality choices forced on us by almost every other game with a choice mechanism.

I play on xbox so the witcher will be a new thing for me, but apparently the choiceshave alot of impact aswell, is that true ?
MEs morality fails, it has a black nad white system (or red and blue) and the dialouge wheel is always top nice, mid neutral and bottom bad.
I think fallout new vegas counts as a true rpg, it looks like a shooter but try using guns when you have no points in them, try using unarmed with no points in that. Choices are also grey (even legion to a degree) andwith the next dlc a perk is added to let you cap your level, better for people who dont want to play a god.

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It wouldn't really ruin it for me, but I want some things to do and some nice, different conversations after the galaxy is safe and all.

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If Mako-driving would come back. It keeps me from playing ME1 over and over again. I almost start, then I remember Mako.

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TaHol100 wrote...

If Mako-driving would come back. It keeps me from playing ME1 over and over again. I almost start, then I remember Mako.


Come on that was great fun. -forces a smile, as they are replaying ME 1 at the time.-

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Bluko wrote...
I'll admit people could structure their topics better to be less flammatory. 


Noted. I was looking more for something like...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

A new personality for Ashley to go along with her redesign... I swear she better be the same Ash.


...than an entire article of why Bioware is terrible. This game is going to be incredible, and I assume most people here have faith in that.

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fiendling wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...


Well, for me at least; this is Biowares last chance. With the RPG elements stripped from ME2, then the insult that was DA2. How ME3 turns out will determine if I ever purchase another one of their games again. There are plenty of shooters, many of which are superior, to choose from already, I don't want one with a dialog wheel.


I agree 100%.

Btw, the closest to a true RPG you can get in 2011, until Skyrim arrives of course, is the Witcher 2. It is not without its faults, but I really enjoyed the really grey moral flavour to all your choices. None of the ridiculously pitch black and snow white morality choices forced on us by almost every other game with a choice mechanism.



Played TW2, loved it. A little short however and combat was a little arcade like. As for the ME series, id's Rage has far more RPG elements than ME2 had judging from the game-play videos I've seen, yet it's classed as a FPS. Bioware is threading on thin ice, they are known for RPG's, yet here we have a company known for FPS making a better RPG/FPS hybrid than they can.

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I dont think anything would ruin ME 3 for me, but some things from ME1 and ME2 that just has got to go:

- Not revealing Tali's face

- Not being able to skip dialogue/cutscenes on second playthrough

- Not being able to skip introduction on second playthrough

- Not being able to skip the ea logo

 - Cheesy hollywood klichès "We fight or we die thats the plan" (baaaaarf! :pinched:) And if I see a pregnant lady giving birth during a crisis situation or Shepard saying "Noone gets left behind" or some ****e like that.

- Planet scanning. But BW has officially recognized that nobody liked planet scanning, so Im not worried about that.

What would ruin the game for me, however, would be_

- Copy pasted areas like in DA2

- constantly flashing and seizure-inducing flickering (like in call of duty black ops)

Modifié par steamcamel, 12 juin 2011 - 03:09 .


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steamcamel wrote...

- Cheesy hollywood klichès "We fight or we die thats the plan" (baaaaarf!) And if I see a pregnant lady giving birth during a crisis situation or Shepard saying "Noone gets left behind" or some ****e like that.


this will probably happen.  Image IPB  I advise you to not keep your hopes up that this won't happen.  I have never seen a movie, played a video game with epic storylines not to have cheesy one-liners in them.

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The reapers can be destroyed with chocolate...

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Antivenger wrote...

There really isn't anything to ruin ME3 for me at this point, because unfortunately I'm expecting very little.

Just wanna finish up the plot, then obsess something else.


Out of genuine curiosity, why? Is there a reason you're expecting little from ME3?

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Sarevok Synder wrote...

As for the ME series, id's Rage has far more RPG elements than ME2 had judging from the game-play videos I've seen, yet it's classed as a FPS. Bioware is threading on thin ice, they are known for RPG's, yet here we have a company known for FPS making a better RPG/FPS hybrid than they can.


True again, this direction may well lead to their eventual financial ruin.

Point and case: I have been an avid and loyal Bioware supporter for 13+ years now. Unfortunately their current hybridisation attempts are slowly but surely alienating their currently loyal (but for how much longer?) RPG supporter base.

This dangerous move is compounded by the fact that the FPS market segment they are trying so hard to entice is also notoriously fickle. When they inevitably lose their support they won’t have us to fall back on.

This could be the start of the terminal decline of Bioware.

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Not allowing my Femshep to romance Tali.

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If Clint Mansell doesn't incorperate the Mass Effect theme into the soundtrack.

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A real easy and obvious way to get the best ending where everyone lives (Like DA: Awakening).
I want to stress my mind, to get my perfect ending for my fifth playthrough. Not get it done in the first, because if you know the way for the perfect, you'll never gonna do a worse playthrough just for the sake of it.


And a few things mentioned a hundred times before....
Like choose between self sacrifice, or death of LI
SELF-SACRIFICE!!!
Surprise squadmate deaths.
Cheesy way to defeat Reapers
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Modifié par Predi1988, 12 juin 2011 - 03:24 .


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Sarevok Synder

I know this is completely off topic, but how weird is it that we signed up on the exact same day and share the same views?