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Liisi wrote...

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And female enemies wear non revealing, suitable armor. Is artistic vision compromised there as well?


Oh, just you wait. Female enemies in ME3 are wearing painted-on string bikinis.

 It's not that bad. Stop acting like it's the end of the world and get over it. Geez.


Why so serious? Geez.

I'm not. People on these forums are. The slightest change annoys and upsets them. BioWare just updated Ashley look and people are starting flame wars over the simplest crap.

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Then explain without using the Wiki how they work. Only with the Codex. I'm led to believe that everything was fleshed out and elaborated on perfectly in ME1. So perfectly, that ME2 somehow ruined it.


Explained right there in the Kinetic Barrier codex entry in ME1. They only react to quick moving objects striking the barrier such as bullets and debris/shrapnel from explosions, not slow moving objects such as air. Hence the wearer can sit on a chair without knocking it away, but is also poorly protected from the elements and hard vacuum without a hard suit.


Hmm, well okay. I'll believe your explanation. For now. Still don't trust that Codex. It's been giving me the eye lately. :lol:

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How can she prefer to wear heavy armor if she never learns how to use it? If she really prefers heavy armor then why isn't she WEARING it when you first encounter her?


Did you ever played Mass Effect 1?


Shepard never wears light armor in ME2 either. Because there is no such thing as light, medium, or heavy armor anymore. He just wears armor.


No, he/she does wear either light or medium armor.

Also Grunt and Garrus wear heavy armor while Tali and Liara wear light armor.

Also, you remember a few pages ago how you expressed dissapointment at Miranda because you needed a DLC to get her in "heavy" armor? 

Miranda is a Biotic.

I just thought you should know. 


I said armor, not heavy armor.

Also Miranda is wearing medium armor while Liara light one.

What Ashley is wearing isn't even an armor, it's catsuit without heels.


Ah, so armor only gets a classification when it works towards your argument. Also, you're the only one that is allowed to decide if armor if light, medium, or heavy, despite the fact that no armor in the game contains such labels.

That makes sense. 


Did YOU ever played mass effect 1? 

Modifié par Warkupo, 12 juin 2011 - 12:59 .


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Christina Norman was defending her co-workers, and she's unable to do anything about art assets, even if she didn't like Ashley's new outfit.

I think asking Casey about it would be more productive, and bringing up some of the issues raised in this thread, without using terms like "deal breaker" would be the right way to reach devs on this matter.

For the record, I like Ashley's new armor, but I want all my squadmates to wear practical armor in combat. I don't like exposed skin or breather masks for any character.


People have asked Casey but he hasn't responded.

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What's with the catsuit hate? Hathaway as Selina Kyle. In a Catsuit! :wub:

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 12 juin 2011 - 12:59 .


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Hattie wrote...

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Kaidan: "Those Asari commandos are impressive. Lightly armored, but their speed more than makes up for it."

Ashley: "Unless that speed lets them outrun bullets, I’m more inclined to stick with nice solid armor and a big gun."


Thank you.


This says it all.
Ashley would never wear a catsuit to a fight. What the hell bioware?!

lol. So a single phrase describes everything that can be or can't be a character. You are so few imaginative, limited and focused on a small script. Ashley's character is not defined in one line.


Actually, I find it very aptly sums up this aspect of her character.
There is more to her than this, obviously, but that is not relevent here. 

In this case Ashley would never changed her position on the aliens. In this case Ashley is racist because at the beginning of Mass Effect, she said she was suspicious of aliens.

Oh wait ... She changes her mind at the end of M1. She has evolved at the end. Do you see this logic limited ?

3 years have passed. 25 years to 28/29 years. She may have become a bit more mature and serious now is not it ?

I also want armor for Ashley, so I'm not really against your will. Rather, your claim to say that Ashley is " like that and not otherwise ", that troubles me. What I read everywhere.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 12 juin 2011 - 01:01 .


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Liisi wrote...

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Christina Norman was defending her co-workers, and she's unable to do anything about art assets, even if she didn't like Ashley's new outfit.

I think asking Casey about it would be more productive, and bringing up some of the issues raised in this thread, without using terms like "deal breaker" would be the right way to reach devs on this matter.

For the record, I like Ashley's new armor, but I want all my squadmates to wear practical armor in combat. I don't like exposed skin or breather masks for any character.


People have asked Casey but he hasn't responded.


I doubt he cares as much as the few people in this thread seem to think he should. 

Modifié par Warkupo, 12 juin 2011 - 01:00 .


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MegaBadExample wrote...

Liisi wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

Liisi wrote...

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And female enemies wear non revealing, suitable armor. Is artistic vision compromised there as well?


Oh, just you wait. Female enemies in ME3 are wearing painted-on string bikinis.

 It's not that bad. Stop acting like it's the end of the world and get over it. Geez.


Why so serious? Geez.

I'm not. People on these forums are. The slightest change annoys and upsets them. BioWare just updated Ashley look and people are starting flame wars over the simplest crap.


You are on these forums too, you know, so you just painted yourself with the serious brush.

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littlezack wrote...

There's also the possibility that some of us just don't give a damn. Did Miranda's outfit bother me a little bit in ME2? Yeah. Did the spacebreathers bother me? Yeah. Do I wish Ashely was wearing heavy armor? Yeah.

Deal-breaking, though? No. ME2 was awesome on so many levels that such a minor thing wasn't close to being a problem for me, and I'm sure ME3 will continue that trend. Ashely's appearance is but a small fraction of the reason I loved her character before; as long as she's the strong, indepedent, capable woman she was before, she can wear just about anything she wants and still kick ass. 


I agree but Miranda and Samara outfits were shame on Bioware.

And despite the feedback of that and giving armor to Liara and Miranda they went step backwards with Ashley's new outfit.

If we don't say we don't want this in ME3, it's gonna be in ME3 and people will complain then too late. Then is shame on us.



It's not deal braking but still annoying.

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Liisi wrote...

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Christina Norman was defending her co-workers, and she's unable to do anything about art assets, even if she didn't like Ashley's new outfit.

I think asking Casey about it would be more productive, and bringing up some of the issues raised in this thread, without using terms like "deal breaker" would be the right way to reach devs on this matter.

For the record, I like Ashley's new armor, but I want all my squadmates to wear practical armor in combat. I don't like exposed skin or breather masks for any character.


People have asked Casey but he hasn't responded.

Because it's stupid. He's probably laughing behind his computer at the people who are freaking out over this.

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Warkupo wrote...

Liisi wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Christina Norman was defending her co-workers, and she's unable to do anything about art assets, even if she didn't like Ashley's new outfit.

I think asking Casey about it would be more productive, and bringing up some of the issues raised in this thread, without using terms like "deal breaker" would be the right way to reach devs on this matter.

For the record, I like Ashley's new armor, but I want all my squadmates to wear practical armor in combat. I don't like exposed skin or breather masks for any character.


People have asked Casey but he hasn't responded.


I doubt he cares as much as the few people in this thread seem to think he should. 


She? You're talking about Christina now, right? She did care enough to reply. Repeatedly.

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Who? Ms. Christina Truffle Norman?

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Lmfaooooo! This **** again? The game is set in space....there goes your realism. But hey, let's ignore that. Let's make the game realistic. You have to eat and ****** and sleep or you pass out. Let's take it to another level....a well placed shot kills you and you can't play the game again, ever. That's reality. Reality is boring and overrated.
Maybe Ashley just doesn't want to wear Heavy Armor anymore, she changed her mind and now she wants to look good while shooting things. Humans change their minds and tastes all the time....and she is supposed to be a human, right?
And about high heels....I've been seeing lots of people saying women can't run in them and stuff like that. That is complete bull****. I've seen lots of women running in high heels. Hell, I have a friend who's a transvestite and he can run and dance in high heels with no problem. Lady Gaga did her whole tour in high heels. So yeah, you guys just need to get out more.

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Liisi wrote...

Warkupo wrote...

Liisi wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Christina Norman was defending her co-workers, and she's unable to do anything about art assets, even if she didn't like Ashley's new outfit.

I think asking Casey about it would be more productive, and bringing up some of the issues raised in this thread, without using terms like "deal breaker" would be the right way to reach devs on this matter.

For the record, I like Ashley's new armor, but I want all my squadmates to wear practical armor in combat. I don't like exposed skin or breather masks for any character.


People have asked Casey but he hasn't responded.


I doubt he cares as much as the few people in this thread seem to think he should. 


She? You're talking about Christina now, right? She did care enough to reply. Repeatedly.


No, I managed to make a typo twice in a row. 

Stop responding so quickly so I can edit! 

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Break it up you two. Don't get your catsuit armors in a knot. :?

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 12 juin 2011 - 01:03 .


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Lmfaooooo! This **** again? The game is set in space....there goes your realism. But hey, let's ignore that. Let's make the game realistic. You have to eat and ****** and sleep or you pass out. Let's take it to another level....a well placed shot kills you and you can't play the game again, ever. That's reality. Reality is boring and overrated.
Maybe Ashley just doesn't want to wear Heavy Armor anymore, she changed her mind and now she wants to look good while shooting things. Humans change their minds and tastes all the time....and she is supposed to be a human, right?
And about high heels....I've been seeing lots of people saying women can't run in them and stuff like that. That is complete bull****. I've seen lots of women running in high heels. Hell, I have a friend who's a transvestite and he can run and dance in high heels with no problem. Lady Gaga did her whole tour in high heels. So yeah, you guys just need to get out more.


This is too easy :lol:
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@Sylvianus yeah, but we haven't a flattering history behind who say we wrong *cof*Miranda*cof*

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You found that awfully quick Liisi...:innocent:

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 12 juin 2011 - 01:04 .


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MegaBadExample wrote...

Liisi wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Christina Norman was defending her co-workers, and she's unable to do anything about art assets, even if she didn't like Ashley's new outfit.

I think asking Casey about it would be more productive, and bringing up some of the issues raised in this thread, without using terms like "deal breaker" would be the right way to reach devs on this matter.

For the record, I like Ashley's new armor, but I want all my squadmates to wear practical armor in combat. I don't like exposed skin or breather masks for any character.


People have asked Casey but he hasn't responded.

Because it's stupid. He's probably laughing behind his computer at the people who are freaking out over this.

lool. wow.  Even Casey ! :lol:

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It may seem minor to you, but the fact is to many of us it makes a complete mockery and farce of a mostly otherwise solid and well-thought-out sci-fi universe. I ask you: how would you feel about the consistency and integrity of the Mass Effect universe if suddenly in ME3 quarians walked around anywhere and everywhere wearing normal getup instead of their environmental suits for no real reason and with no explanation?


LOL!

Quarians sucker punch evolutionary biology and especially imunology so hard in the testicles that it's probably the most awesome contradiction ever to put well thought out sci fi and quarians next to each other. 

ME (and I'm taking ME1 here, not the horror that was ME2) looks biology in the eye and spits on it with just about every race, but the quarians are a special breed of biology can go F-itself.

Because if you actually think about it properly and not just at a glance, it's on pretty much the same level as far as IP inconsitency, impracticality and stupidity goes. 


Do you value consistency over coherence? Because, again, there's just no way to recognize 1) quarian immunology exist as described in the ME lore; 2) mass effect has 'well thought out' sci-fi lore.

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Ah, so armor only gets a classification when it works towards your argument. Also, you're the only one that is allowed to decide if armor if light, medium, or heavy, despite the fact that no armor in the game contains such labels.

That makes sense. 


Did YOU ever played mass effect 1? 


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Spot the difference.


Also there are called light, medium and heavy armor for a reason.

Modifié par Mesina2, 12 juin 2011 - 01:05 .


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Warkupo wrote...

Liisi wrote...

Warkupo wrote...

Liisi wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Christina Norman was defending her co-workers, and she's unable to do anything about art assets, even if she didn't like Ashley's new outfit.

I think asking Casey about it would be more productive, and bringing up some of the issues raised in this thread, without using terms like "deal breaker" would be the right way to reach devs on this matter.

For the record, I like Ashley's new armor, but I want all my squadmates to wear practical armor in combat. I don't like exposed skin or breather masks for any character.


People have asked Casey but he hasn't responded.


I doubt he cares as much as the few people in this thread seem to think he should. 


She? You're talking about Christina now, right? She did care enough to reply. Repeatedly.


No, I managed to make a typo twice in a row. 

Stop responding so quickly so I can edit! 


:D:D:D

Liisi, the fastest drawer in the West World

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Spandex.
Perfection.
Over-compensating for something down there.

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FluffyScarf wrote...

You found that awfully quick Liisi...:innocent:


I'm bored. So sue me B)

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Give Ashley armor!