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[Cosmar]

Stop using the term "RPG" when describing it. At this point, there really isn't anything in the game to even bring it close to one. Not that this is a bad thing. I'm not saying ME3 will suck or anything. I think it will be an amazing TPS with a great story and great character interaction. But that doesn't make it an RPG.

Even the term "Shooter-RPG" is not right. RPGs are specific types of games that, mechanically speaking, have similarities between all of them. Character-based skills rather than player-based skills, etc.

Now, the phrase "role-playing game" generically could be used to describe ANY game...in 99% of games you are assuming the role of an in-game character who is not yourself. But we don't call every single game an RPG.

I know I'm going to love this game. But please, don't say it's something that it's not.

Modifié par Cosmar, 12 juin 2011 - 01:36 .

[Il Divo]

And here we go again...

Modifié par Il Divo, 12 juin 2011 - 01:36 .

[AllenShepard]

Please GTFO. This thread is unnecessary and provocative.

Modifié par AllenShepard, 12 juin 2011 - 01:37 .

[Cosmar]

I'm just stating a truth.

[FluffyScarf]

Deja vu.

6 separate classes with evolving powers that can be improved upon levelling by gaining XP. Weapon stats making a return with mods that can alter how a weapon handles. Choices impacting outcomes, however small those changes may be. Hardcore, traditional hack and slash dungeon grinding RPG? No. Doesn't matter. Still enough of a RPG to be classified as one.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 12 juin 2011 - 01:41 .

[Commander Shep4rd]

[TheCrakFox]

You can influence the story based on your decisions, that's what makes is an RPG. Not accuracy stats.

[BloodyTalon]

Ok to make it simple reguardless

A roleplay game can be define has taking a role even if its a premade role and making choices, its that simple and doesn't always have to be detailed.

I know to simple, but its the way it is.

[ScepticMatt]

Troll?

People never agree about what the definition of an RPG is.

[eternalnightmare13]

Cosmar wrote...

I'm just stating a truth.

No, you're stating your OPINION.  Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.  Considering the game isn't out for another 9 months and we've all only seen a demo and a few snippets of interviews/trailers you have no basis for what this game is all about.  Rather you've managed to jump to conclusions and prejudged it which is on you - NOT Bioware.  

[Oblivious]

So many people say Mass Effect isn't an RPG yet they don't even know what an RPG is. Multiple classes, experience, evolving powers, customizing your character, choices affecting outcomes, an immersive free roaming world, and each player having their own unique character with their own unique look, powers, and personality. Also side quests, collectibles, exploration, multiple enemy classes, and plot twists.

What in the world do you think an RPG is if not any of those?

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

TheCrakFox wrote...

You can influence the story based on your decisions, that's what makes is an RPG. Not accuracy stats.

No.

But the "Mass Effect is/isn't an RPG" is a pretty irrelevant argument. The game is 9 months away and we barely know anything about it.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 12 juin 2011 - 01:47 .

[Rawke]

What's with the whole whining that it's not a RPG? I mean, do we really care what kind of game it is as long as it's awesome? Who's defining what makes RPGs RPGs anyway?

[FluffyScarf]

Tell that to the people who only play RPGs and think everything else is below them.

[_Aine_]

I think it is fair to say that "Epic! Choices! Consequences" is a macro in the BW marketing department. I think I am just going to wait and see what the game ends up, rather than trying to categorize it based on marketing this time around. Looks like it will be decent regardless which genre button they stick on it. It's far enough away that who knows all of what we will see before it is released.

[BloodyTalon]

Rawke wrote...

What's with the whole whining that it's not a RPG? I mean, do we really care what kind of game it is as long as it's awesome? Who's defining what makes RPGs RPGs anyway?

Personally speaking, don't get it you can simplef the term role playing games just to taking on a role and has long has the  story is interactive it counts really.

[Il Divo]

Rawke wrote...

What's with the whole whining that it's not a RPG? I mean, do we really care what kind of game it is as long as it's awesome? Who's defining what makes RPGs RPGs anyway?

I've been wondering this for quite a while. Is it defined by the person who made the first ever role-playing game? A consensus by all the pen and paper developers? Is it up to the general rpg community? Must the definitions of pen and paper and crpg agree? Hell, let's just hand this question off to the philosophers for all the good it'll do.

Modifié par Il Divo, 12 juin 2011 - 01:52 .

[Someone With Mass]

I though RPG was when you interacted with characters and made important choices, along with several other definitions. Guess I was wrong.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Ability to roleplay as a character.

That's all you technically need to be counted as an RPG. But think on it carefully, it's a deceptively simple definition.

[BloodyTalon]

mrcrusty wrote...

Ability to roleplay as a character.

That's all you technically need to be counted as an RPG. But think on it carefully, it's a deceptively simple definition.

Put it better then me.

[Inprea]

FluffyScarf wrote...

Deja vu.

6 separate classes with evolving powers that can be improved upon levelling by gaining XP. Weapon stats making a return with mods that can alter how a weapon handles. Choices impacting outcomes, however small those changes may be. Hardcore, traditional hack and slash dungeon grinding RPG? No. Doesn't matter. Still enough of a RPG to be classified as one.

Oblivious wrote...

So many people say Mass Effect isn't an
RPG yet they don't even know what an RPG is. Multiple classes,
experience, evolving powers, customizing your character, choices
affecting outcomes, an immersive free roaming world, and each player
having their own unique character with their own unique look, powers,
and personality. Also side quests, collectibles, exploration, multiple
enemy classes, and plot twists.

What in the world do you think an RPG is if not any of those?

I'm going to agree with these two.

Besides in any rpg the player has always been their characters "brain" to a large extent. I can still remember when a mage with a +18 intelligence decided it would be a great idea to use fireball which has a blast radious of several meters on the ogre my warrior was fighting. Now the mage had an intelligence of 18 out of a possible 20 and yet despite that supposed intelligence he was clearly an idiot.

Shepeard is suppose to be an exceptional shot but in much the same way if your Shepeard's "brain" is lacking in some regard well the character suffers for it.

[Dragoonlordz]

FluffyScarf wrote...

Deja vu.

6 separate classes with evolving powers that can be improved upon levelling by gaining XP. Weapon stats making a return with mods that can alter how a weapon handles. Choices impacting outcomes, however small those changes may be. Hardcore, traditional hack and slash dungeon grinding RPG? No. Doesn't matter. Still enough of a RPG to be classified as one.

Oblivious wrote...

So many people say Mass Effect isn't an RPG yet they don't even know what an RPG is. Multiple classes, experience, evolving powers, customizing your character, choices affecting outcomes, an immersive free roaming world, and each player having their own unique character with their own unique look, powers, and personality. Also side quests, collectibles, exploration, multiple enemy classes, and plot twists.

What in the world do you think an RPG is if not any of those?

The things I crossed out are things that do not define an RPG imho, they are things FPS have, Action games also have and so on just as much as anything under the banner of RPG. The only things that should be listed as an RPG defining is something that the others genres do not have which makes it seporate from those. I would cross the others out too if could think of any games that had those and was not a RPG genre lol. It's subjective though which is why I put (imho) in this.

Mass Effect series is a 3rd Person (party based) Shooter with RPG elements.

Given it's subjective no-one is going to win this argument and bringing it up was dumb in the first place.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 12 juin 2011 - 02:34 .

[BloodyTalon]

-Takes the dead horse away-

[Leonia]

Bah, I clicked the link. Per my own profile rules, I now must find some alcohol.. oh hey I have beer already. Carry on.

The day you all figure out what the unanimous definition of RPG is the day that..the Reapers really invade Earth.

Modifié par leonia42, 12 juin 2011 - 02:53 .