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#26
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HrznKn wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Dark Star wrote...

Reapers on left = cool and I agree with you
Reaper on right = mistake by BioWare

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You do realize the one on the right was going to end up as a cuttlefish if Shepard hadn't wrecked the Collector operation?


Lol this again....

No




Mac Walters on GI...
Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.


Modifié par Mesina2, 12 juin 2011 - 07:10 .


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Arcian wrote...

Dark Star wrote...

Reapers on left = cool and I agree with you
Reaper on right = mistake by BioWare

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You do realize the one on the right was going to end up as a cuttlefish if Shepard hadn't wrecked the Collector operation?


Totally. B)
That's something Walters confirmed not such a long time ago while getting interviewed by GameInformer, and here's sauce ;

Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?

-The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect
2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.

Modifié par DerdarDante, 12 juin 2011 - 07:12 .


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We are the Harbinger of your appreciation.

Edit: to add on the discussion, the coversation with Sovereign was one of the most awesome pieces of dialogue I've seen in gaming history. Each phrase propagated by the spaceship was epic.

Modifié par RyuGuitarFreak, 12 juin 2011 - 07:20 .


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RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

We are the Harbinger of your appreciation.

Edit: to add on the discussion, the coversation with Sovereign was one of the most awesome pieces of dialogue I've seen in gaming history. Each phrase propagated by the spaceship was epic.

Soverign was stupid. Telling about how there are more reapers, and giving himself away.

Would be much better if ME1 we had no idea we were just Sarens ship = bad, kill it. Then we get all this stuff behind the scenes e.g the wiped out planets. Then ME3 they show up. Would have been much better imo. And less stupid, soverign giving himself away for no reason, I hated that.

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The Reapers really are something else. Some things regarding them requires a bit of thinking, like what kind of things they can do with their ability to indoctrinate and build husks while travelling to their destination (according to the E3 Earth trailer we are going to see Batarian Husks on Earth, not that I claim those Cannibals were huskified on flight, but it's a possibilty).

And what can one Reaper do in space combat... What can Reaper fleet do... According to live action demo Reapers practically destroyed entire Alliance fleet. It looks like BioWare is staying faitful to existing lore and not nerfing Reapers.

In one of E3 demos we get to see how Shepard asks help from Quarion fleet from orbit to take down _one_ small Reaper... This is what I wanted to see! Fight against overwhelming enemy and unconventional means are really required to win them.

Add: Maybe we are going to get a feeling we really achieved something in ME3....

Edit: Bit of clarification and one add.

Modifié par ZLurps, 12 juin 2011 - 08:10 .


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Anyhow, the Reapers are still the better C'thulhu inspired villains today.

Saying that, i still want to know what made them and why. I want to know it all if it's going to be the last straw for the Reapers. Might aswell know their origin and purpose if they're gonna get smushed.

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DerdarDante wrote...

Anyhow, the Reapers are still the better C'thulhu inspired villains today.

Saying that, i still want to know what made them and why. I want to know it all if it's going to be the last straw for the Reapers. Might aswell know their origin and purpose if they're gonna get smushed.


I think we will. There isn't firepower to go against them in existing ME universe. We need to learn about them, study ways to defeat them, not just one or two but entire fleet. I think we are going to learn a lot about their background in the journey.

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ZLurps wrote...

The Reapers really are something else. Some things regarding them requires a bit of thinking, like what kind of things they can do with their ability to indoctrinate and build husks while travelling to their destination (according to the E3 Earth trailer we are going to see Batarian Husks on Earth, not that I claim those Cannibals were huskified on flight, but it's a possibilty).

And what can one Reaper do in space combat... What can Reaper fleet do... According to live action demo Reapers practically destroyed entire Alliance fleet. It looks like BioWare is staying faitful to existing lore and not nerfing Reapers.



That last part, about nerfing them. I'd really hate it if they're not as 'godly' or powerful as they appear to be. I mean, when was the last time in a videogame where you have to fight something that's essentially UNSTOPPABLE?

I'm seriously willing to have my Shepard and his army brutalized, just to see what these old horrors are capable of.

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DerdarDante wrote...

That last part, about nerfing them. I'd really hate it if they're not as 'godly' or powerful as they appear to be. I mean, when was the last time in a videogame where you have to fight something that's essentially UNSTOPPABLE?

I'm seriously willing to have my Shepard and his army brutalized, just to see what these old horrors are capable of.


For me it's like, the harder the fight is going to be, more rewarding it's going to be.
There is lot of darkness in ME games, not only in what comes to Reapers... but also it's pretty much show how they see life... what is the use for Batarians, husks...
Crushing them is likely to be satisfying, of course if it's going like "upload Safari Browser" it doesn't work, but somehow I think we are going to get something else.

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DerdarDante wrote...

True, thisisntmyname.

They really nailed the epic form of music.
And it would really be awesome with atleast one ending with total despair and harvesting/destruction.

By then we would know that they weren't all bull with their talk.


I really love Sovereign's theme.
The top-rated comment under that vid sums up the feeling perfectly:

"The first fictional character that made my life feel insignificant."


Listening to it, I can just imagine Anderson looking up at a mile-high Reaper, mouth agape, coming to realize how futile his best efforts have been. Edit: even though it's a little cheesy, it's still a powerful and mesmerizing theme.

Modifié par Mr. MannlyMan, 12 juin 2011 - 08:25 .


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For people into majestic stuff, the themes of Mass Effect really is like Sci-fi Bach.

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As for Reaper names....Sovereign was actually Nazara, remember? From the conversations with Legion in ME2. Harbinger must be its true name, since it calls itself that. It would be interesting to discover more Reaper names and how they come up with the names for themselves.

Also, I wonder if we'll get to go inside another reaper and see what a completed "core reaper" looks like. And talk to it. That would be insane.

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Why do the reapers bother belittling us? I suppose you could say to undermine our confidence but would a machine really care about that? Does the whole organic/machine thing come into play here?

I am a lost and very confused kitten...

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this isnt my name wrote...

Sovereign was stupid. Telling about how there are more reapers, and giving himself away.


Sovereign wasn't stupid, he simply didn't anticipate that he'd fail.

OT: Reapers are awesome. Sovereign has the best quote ever! (Shepard lines taken out :P )

Sovereign wrote...

We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, we will endure. You exist because we allow it, and you will end, because we demand it. We are legion. The time of our return is coming. Our numbers will darken the sky of every world. You cannot escape your doom. Your words are as empty as your future. I am the vanguard of your destruction.

This exchange is over.



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ZLurps wrote...

DerdarDante wrote...

That last part, about nerfing them. I'd really hate it if they're not as 'godly' or powerful as they appear to be. I mean, when was the last time in a videogame where you have to fight something that's essentially UNSTOPPABLE?

I'm seriously willing to have my Shepard and his army brutalized, just to see what these old horrors are capable of.


For me it's like, the harder the fight is going to be, more rewarding it's going to be.
There is lot of darkness in ME games, not only in what comes to Reapers... but also it's pretty much show how they see life... what is the use for Batarians, husks...
Crushing them is likely to be satisfying, of course if it's going like "upload Safari Browser" it doesn't work, but somehow I think we are going to get something else.

I doubt it, the only thing close to a logical ending would be destroying the relay to stop them reaching earth. But now its going to be a fight or some glaring weakness. if there is a victory it will feel shallow.

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Dannyboy9876 wrote...

this isnt my name wrote...

Sovereign was stupid. Telling about how there are more reapers, and giving himself away.


Sovereign wasn't stupid, he simply didn't anticipate that he'd fail.

OT: Reapers are awesome. Sovereign has the best quote ever! (Shepard lines taken out :P )

Sovereign wrote...

We have no beginning. We have no end. We are infinite. Millions of years after your civilization has been eradicated and forgotten, we will endure. You exist because we allow it, and you will end, because we demand it. We are legion. The time of our return is coming. Our numbers will darken the sky of every world. You cannot escape your doom. Your words are as empty as your future. I am the vanguard of your destruction.

This exchange is over.


No he was an idiot. He gave himself away, out of pride or confidence it was still stupid,

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Cosmar wrote...

As for Reaper names....Sovereign was actually Nazara, remember? From the conversations with Legion in ME2. Harbinger must be its true name, since it calls itself that. It would be interesting to discover more Reaper names and how they come up with the names for themselves.

Also, I wonder if we'll get to go inside another reaper and see what a completed "core reaper" looks like. And talk to it. That would be insane.


I got it... Another grim and terrifying Reaper name to join the ranks of Sovereign and Harbinger

Harbinger: Shepard, I'd like you to meet my personal consiglieri Michelle. 

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this isnt my name wrote...

ZLurps wrote...

DerdarDante wrote...

That last part, about nerfing them. I'd really hate it if they're not as 'godly' or powerful as they appear to be. I mean, when was the last time in a videogame where you have to fight something that's essentially UNSTOPPABLE?

I'm seriously willing to have my Shepard and his army brutalized, just to see what these old horrors are capable of.


For me it's like, the harder the fight is going to be, more rewarding it's going to be.
There is lot of darkness in ME games, not only in what comes to Reapers... but also it's pretty much show how they see life... what is the use for Batarians, husks...
Crushing them is likely to be satisfying, of course if it's going like "upload Safari Browser" it doesn't work, but somehow I think we are going to get something else.

I doubt it, the only thing close to a logical ending would be destroying the relay to stop them reaching earth. But now its going to be a fight or some glaring weakness. if there is a victory it will feel shallow.


Well, IIRC Reapers are couple of thousand years late on this cycle. Current galactic races know about Dark Switches in ME relays, that even Protheans didn't knew about.

Then Reapers purpose is to reap, if they came just to destroy Earth, it would be "Mission Failed" from the beginning, but reaping is time and resource consuming task. Now, it appears that galactic races somehow are able to maintain control of ME relays in Citadel, that alone changes a lot of things. Most importantly, it gives time to develop counter measures.

Think of it, when Reapers took over the Citadel from Protheans on last cycle they also gained control of entire ME relay network. Since practically all FTL communications go over ME relays Reapers didn't only cut Protheans fleets from moving, they also made shared research impossible. Even if one system might found something that would be effective against Reapers, they could not share that data among other systems and fell under sheer number of enemies. Note that also works other way, no system could gave information (tell nothing works against) about if their weapons were ineffective against Reapers.

I don't think victory will come easily, I think lot of sacrifices are going to be made. Information we have now from the demos indicate that the whole Batarian hegemony doesn't exist anymore, but as husks... perhaps also as indoctrinated slaves if those are useful for Reapers (as agents for example) and how fast that happened. It looks like the war is lost before from the moment it started.

But time... every day Reapers are harvesting the Earth millions may die, but it's also time for studying them, developing counter measures for indoctrination, counter measures against their shields and since Sherpard can travel ME relay network must be working, so also research can be shared among galactic races.

One possibility why I think there is a way to win against Reapers without nerfing them is that I think that they might be dying.

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Dark Star wrote...

Reapers on left = cool and I agree with you
Reaper on right = mistake by BioWare

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I don't understand how and why you think the Reapers on the left look more awesome than the Human-Reaper larvae on the right. They only look like fleas kidnapped from dogs, taken to a research facility, tortured with metalware, became enraged, got loose and wanted to wreck havoc because they had a bad day. If the Human-
Reaper was fully completed.. I could only imagine that it would be like the Terminator except that it would shoot lasers from all of it's fingers, be able to punch, kick, swallow, and other things. Not really that original, but still, it's more awesome than having hundreds of 2km sapient constructed fleas ruining everyone elses day. At least the Human-Reaper would make the destruction look more cool. IMO.

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this isnt my name wrote...

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

We are the Harbinger of your appreciation.

Edit: to add on the discussion, the coversation with Sovereign was one of the most awesome pieces of dialogue I've seen in gaming history. Each phrase propagated by the spaceship was epic.

Soverign was stupid. Telling about how there are more reapers, and giving himself away.

Would be much better if ME1 we had no idea we were just Sarens ship = bad, kill it. Then we get all this stuff behind the scenes e.g the wiped out planets. Then ME3 they show up. Would have been much better imo. And less stupid, soverign giving himself away for no reason, I hated that.


It's the traditional "big bad boss has to give long winded speech about their superiority".

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Well, when it comes to the "Reaper motivation", can we have some respectful ideas on what it may be?

Theorycrafting is fun, but only when it follow the lines of the story, and ofcourse that it makes some kind of sense. Not that "the dark evil mechagods of horror and death that lazer'd n' slurpeed your girlfriend" should make any sense from a Lovecraft Point of View, but it would contribute to the story.

Also, i'd like to see something other than "DEY DO IT TO SPRED DEIR SEEDSA". Like, why would these hyper intelligent 'organic machines' create more of their kind if they had no motivation or goal?
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Last week I was eating some crab and it reminded me of a reaper. Anyway I love the reapers and part of me is hoping they don't all get destoyed in ME 3.