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[SalsaDMA]

Jzadek72 wrote...

They said I was mad! But I showed them! I showed them all.

Ahem.

I'm glad for confirmation, but I can't say I didn't expect this. Bioware aren't stupid.

*cough* DA2 *cough*


:innocent:

[Hennex]

See, I thought that was her "off-duty" suit. Or at least, it better be.

[Shepard Lives]

EXCELLENT.

[SalsaDMA]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Change our stance?  

I only mention this because the idea that lots of posts can amount to a specific change in the game is kind of dangerous. It's far more likely that insightful, thoughtful posts will result in direct change.

I know for myself, I'm far more likely to pay attention to thoughtful, civil discussion than to... alternatives. :happy:

The biggot parade getting their way while they were spewing hate on anyone that disagreed with them to the point that people just gave up trying to discuss things with them, certainly got quite a few of us to think otherwise about the point you just stated. Just saying...

[Funkcase]

Yay! So I get a great new suit for Ash, and some of her armor too! This game is just getting better and better! My social life and work are both really going to suffer come next year.

[SalsaDMA]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

 If you know that 30% of the total playerbase did one thing and seemed to enjoy one particular thing... but a group on the forums is saying they don't like that... which is more important? Is there a way to compromise so that we can deliver something that we think everyone will like?
It's a hard decision... and thankfully one that I don't usually have to make. :happy:

Eh... How are you getting numbers from what people "enjoy"?

Hopefully not by pulling stats out of what characters people use? I used Miranda alot because of her passive bonus for example, while I would have prefered her in a more realistic outfit. I also romanced her with one of my shepards, because I didn't really think the alternatives were anywhere near as interesting (No, I'll never get into Tali, and Jack with her tatoos just doesn't do it for me, and Kelly is... not really a love interst as I see it, but merely something... random...).

So how DO you get numbers about what people "want" in a meaningfull way which aren't coloured by other factors?

[Mann42]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Yep, it's easy to know (from data) that someone did something. Knowing *why* they did it is incredibly difficult. If we need to know that's when we start looking at forums, play/focus tests, personal experience... etc.

Thanks for such candid answers and insight into the way you look at game data analysis and customer interaction on these forums, even though most will put more effort into misunderstanding it than treating it for what it is.

Hopefully I can still have the option to have Ashley shoot things in an armored "catsuit", though.  

Modifié par nexworks, 12 juin 2011 - 08:05 .

[SalsaDMA]

onelifecrisis wrote...

DocLasty wrote...

"Bioware are, by their own admission and in their own words, focused on getting a larger audience. They're not interested in "insightful" or "thoughtful" fans, they're interested in getting MOAR fans. I believe that, contrary to Brenan's claim, a large loud outcry from the fanbase here will carry more weight than a small, thoughtful, insightful one. This forum may only represent 1% of the fans, but if 90% of that 1% all agree on something then that is s
statistically relevent." 

Tell me - what are you more likely to listen to? Ten people talking to you in a polite, thoughtful manner, or 100 people screaming like whiney, spoiled children?

If I want to "broaden my audience" or whatever, I'll listen to the 100 screamers.

Not to mention that if they are foaming at the mouth and wielding axes, I'd damn well make sure to pay attention to them

[shinobi602]

bobobo878 wrote...

hmm so much for zero suit ashley than.

They never said they're taking away that suit......

[Relix28]

Thank god. There is still hope left for BioWare.

[Iakus]

 My faith is halfway restored.

It's great to hear about helmets being back.  And I'm trusting they are sealable helmets too.

Now we just have to see who's definition of "armor" is being used...

[Schneidend]

iakus wrote...

 My faith is halfway restored.

It's great to hear about helmets being back.  And I'm trusting they are sealable helmets too.

Now we just have to see who's definition of "armor" is being used...

In context it is pretty clear. Casey was referring to something different than what we have now, the suit/light armor we've seen Ashley wearing. There's really only room to go heavier from there. That's your answer.

Modifié par Schneidend, 12 juin 2011 - 09:04 .

[MegaBadExample]

Avian005 wrote...

See, I thought that was her "off-duty" suit. Or at least, it better be.

Damn straight!

[eldav]

Thanks, i am at ease now, for the first time since ME2 was launched.
This Bioware will unite the fanbase, thank you.

[DocLasty]

Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

Ah yes, Ashley. An optional squadmate, alledgedly back in ME3 for more boring poety and angsty daddy-issues.

We have dismissed those claims.

See, that's the problem - there's always going to be somebody complaining about something. You fix something to tailor one group's wants, you wind up making a new group pissed off. You do that, you do this - there's always somebody who wants more, that little 1% that won't shut up. At some point, you have to make the damn game, and if you try to tailor it to every whim of a message board, it won't happen. 

[Nohvarr]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Change our stance?  

I only mention this because the idea that lots of posts can amount to a specific change in the game is kind of dangerous. It's far more likely that insightful, thoughtful posts will result in direct change.

I know for myself, I'm far more likely to pay attention to thoughtful, civil discussion than to... alternatives. :happy:

The biggot parade getting their way while they were spewing hate on anyone that disagreed with them to the point that people just gave up trying to discuss things with them, certainly got quite a few of us to think otherwise about the point you just stated. Just saying...

Thing is, if they'd been planning armor before and just weren't ready to show the actual design, then all the biggots got was confirmation that there would be armor.

[Wulfram]

Schneidend wrote...

In context it is pretty clear. Casey was referring to something different than what we have now, the suit/light armor we've seen Ashley wearing. There's really only room to go heavier from there. That's your answer.

Chainmail bikini?

[Nohvarr]

Wulfram wrote...

Schneidend wrote...

In context it is pretty clear. Casey was referring to something different than what we have now, the suit/light armor we've seen Ashley wearing. There's really only room to go heavier from there. That's your answer.

Chainmail bikini?

Dosen't fit with previous armor types shown.

[Warkupo]

I like the idea of the Trailer being Ashley's 'base' armor, and you can add in pieces to it similar to what you can do with Shepard in ME2. Do that for all squad mates and I'd be pretty impressed.

[Eshaye]

Oh wow some people just want to throw sand in their underpants NO matter what huh? Niiice.

Again, thanks for the clarification BioWare and am looking forwards to what this means for the rest of the armor choices and tweaks made. I am a lot more positive about this then I was some 10 hours ago.

[Babli]

This I like.

[Darc_Requiem]

Good news .A Sentinel in medium armor, Kaidan, and a Soldier in a light armor, Ashley, made no sense what so ever.

[JunMadine]

Yeah, Armor is good catsuit not as good. Helmet awesome.

[Estelindis]

I'm glad Ashley will have full armour and a helmet. :-)

On the issue of fan feedback and discussion, I think there should be a happy medium between taking on constructive feedback and doing one's own thing (since so many of the things that make Mass Effect great are things that we fans could never have just conjured up). With this recent issue, though, my feelings have become somewhat ambivalent. While I'm glad in some ways that we gave feedback on the armour issue, I'm saddened that there was such a flood of strong views that Christina (apparently) felt harassed. I follow her on twitter and she's lovely. I did send her a tweet when the topic of armour came up and in the light of many forumites saying that we were harassing her by doing so I felt compelled to check my tweet: @truffle Re. Ashley's new look: I like it a lot, but I hope med/heavy armour will be an option too. Shep wears it for a reason, right? :-) I don't think that was hostile or a form of harassment. But maybe a strong flood of views seeming to disagree with oneself can seem like that regardless. :-/

[Bluko]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Tweet from Casey Hudson a few minutes ago:

"Ashley will be able to have armor and a helmet in #ME3, as will others. We've only shown very little of the game so far."

I cannot describe how this makes me feel in words. I will use picture instead:




(Yes I know Spongebob isn't wearing armor, deal with it!)