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KainrycKarr wrote...

I consider myself quite pro women's rights; I also read three of the blogger's articles before I firmly decided she's not the most intelligent(or the most un-biased)


No, she's probably not. Then again the best feminist writers are probably novelists.

There are parts I agree with, but for the most part, I consider her the epitomy of a reverse-sexist. She doesn't seem to want equality; she seems to want the fanservice and the roles to be completely reversed.


I've read a bit of her work too, I don't always agree with her but from what I saw she wants the idea of 'fanservice' as in (giant boobs absolutely everywhere) to just be GONE. I haven't seen much to suggest that she wants to put men in the same place, or revert men to a lesser state of being.

Plus at one point she blasted Jim Sterling out of the sky and any enemy of Jim Sterling is a friend of mine.

Thus, I think she is a damaging member of her movement.


I doubt it, she's just one blogger. Even if her views were crazy or misandronist, it's not like it's going to do much. I mean come on, with the attitude towards feminists on the web already being pretty bad what's one more blog?

But, I'm sure the truth is that I'm yet another male moron that refuses to accept a woman's voice to be heard.


Probably not, but for the sake of argument I'll point out that I'm a man as well. I'll also ask that you explain exactly what points (non Mass Effect related though) that you agreed with and disagreed with so that I can come to a better understanding.

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V-rex wrote...
Well she does. Her point is that the game is full of needless ass shots. Those ass shots are REALLY there and they KEEP SHOWING UP, she's pointing out that they are there which is valid because she has shown proof that they are there.
She is then arguing that because they are, it can be percieved as sexist.


So what exactly constitutes a necessary ass shot?  Should all scenes with Miranda be shot from the other side of a closed door so that feminists aren't offended?

Good thing this blogger didn't play The Witcher 2.  It actually shows completely nude women.  I imagine nothing is more offensive to a feminist.

V-rex wrote...
Maybe if you actually did listen to her and women pointing things out in general, you wouldn't be so quick to presume that it's bullcrap.

Like when women point out that say the hentai RAPE games from Japan are incredbily sexist, maybe if  gamers would hear them out instead of disregarding them, we'd have a better understanding of the world.

Meanwhile, if you keep ignoring and disregarding their arguments, they are going to have to make them louder and angrier to actually be heard at all.


It really doesn't matter if it's a man or woman making the argument. I would disregard this argument just as quickly if it was made by a man.  The fact that an argument is loud and angry doesn't make it coherent, logical, or important.

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V-rex wrote...

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I will never understand why it is anti-feminist if a woman is dressed sexy? And is proud of their bodies and flaunt it.


Because this isn't a REAL PERSON deciding to wear sexed up clothes because she WANTS to look sexy.

This is a fictitous character DESIGNED to wear sexed up clothes because the designers WANTED HER to look sexy to appeal to a male audience.

For the love of god, understand the difference!


Eh?  It is a character written by a writer that may very well have decided that character looks good and wants to sex it up.

This is far more real world than fantasy.  Heck talk to Miranda and she talks up the fact that she is genetically engineered to be better in several ways including looks.

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Not as if the men in video games are an accurate depiction of real men anway.. so all's fair :?


Exactly right. People can't seem to grasp that both men and women are victims of stereotypes and opression when it comes to literature and in an unideniably post-modern, post-strucuralist world I am becoming really sick of hearing the feminist argument acknowledged ove and over as valid.

As evidence of an inexorable, established social trend towards total gender equality becomes more and more apparent, that arcane set of beliefs embodied in feminism has become elitist and supremacist, as a natural defence to justify the meaningless values maintaining its dwindling existence. Feminism is a dying doctrine which finds sustainance only through people like this author who work to fabricate and exaggerate examples of "oppression" so that it might continue its mutation.

People need to stop feeding bull**** to this broken, aging ideology.

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V-rex wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...


And yet noone considers Jacob (muscular, attractive male wearing form-fitting clothing, shows man-boob during the romance) to be sexist.


Because the camera doesn't constantly zoom in on his arse, or at least not as often or as obnoxiously as Mirandas. 1. He also doesn't walk around wearing a skin tight top that shows off his chest to a ludicrous degree. 2. He doesn't think that a g-string and a belt on his nipples constitues 'armor'.

Sexually appealing characters is not sexist.


I agree, but if you read my above text wall, you will notice that I pointed out a fine line between 'sexually appealing' in terms of character and 'sexually appealing' in terms of objectification.
3. The former is a character who is attractive and sexual in personality and behavior, the latter is a character that has the camera constantly loitering on their private parts.
Even when it makes no sense contextually.





1. He doesn't?

2. How is Jack sexist? I wasn't aware that bald and small-busted was over-ly sexual.

3. Why can't a character be sexually appealing both personally and physically?

Modifié par KainrycKarr, 13 juin 2011 - 03:58 .


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Didn't bother to read the article but I did read this.

V-rex wrote...
Oddly enough, I actually agree with a lot of her points. I think it is obnoxious the way games keep consistantly shoving sexed up women in them for the purposes of having sexed up women. I have nothing against attractive female characters in games, and I have nothing against the idea of female characters having a sexual side to them.

But in the case of say, Miranda, I never got that impression. She never came across as flirty or genuienly sexual unless you actually romance her. The supposed 'femme fatale' spends most of her time just being cold and businesslike, save for the occassional totally pointless camera shot of her behind.
The zenith of these being when she's talking about her sister's life being in danger and that she needs YOUR help to save said sister and right there when we should be making an effort to take her seriously as a character... the camera stops right on her arse. Fully framed and literally six inches away from your face, then it just pauses in place.
It's ridiculous, it makes everything she's saying be reduced to mockery. Any attempt to percieve her as an actual character instead of a transparent sex toy seems lost forever. That scene single handedly made a mockery of Miranda. It was unnecessary and it was ludicrously immature and you know damn well that they wouldn't do this for a man's loyalty mission.

I get where she's coming from when she talks about this stuff. I don't mind sexually empowered female characters who want to look attractive, I DO mind when said attractiveness is shoved into your face over and over again, even when it risks actual character growth in the process.
There's a very fine line between having a female character be sexual in essence and having a female character be sexual in terms of an object. Constantly zooming in on T&A is evidence of that. It's a shame we can't actually discuss this without the usual slurs against the women who object to it.

I also agree with her point about how we keep obsessively trying to make the female characters seem 'vulnerable'. I mean think about it, Miranda shows her 'soft side' and cries at the end of her mission, Jack shows fragility at the end of hers, Tali bursts into tears in hers and Samara becomes very fragile at the end of hers.

There's this wierd obsession with equating 'characterization' in tough female characters with being 'display weakness' (see also Metroid: Other M) and while it is certainly present in male characters from time to time, ther seem to be a lot more 'make the wimmin vulnerable' examples then males.
I mean now let's do a run down on all the male character's loyalty missions.
Jacob doesn't cry when he lets his father get arrested, he just scowls. Garrus is also only angry and vaguely confused about Sidonis and the loss of his team. Grunt just laughs it off. Mordin DOES cry when he sees the dead Krogan and Thane DOES cry when he's reuinited with his son, Legion doesn't cry because Legion can't cry and his mission isn't about a great emotional obstacle to overcome.

Ergo, of seven male missions, only TWO of them have the male in question vulnerable and tearful. Meanwhile all FOUR of the loyalty missions for Mirana, Jack, Tali and Samara have some degree of fragility to them... usually tears. If one were keen to do analysis one might consider questioning why it's common to see women be emotional but not men and what it might mean.

And yeah, you know what? I AM annoyed that so many alien races exist in the universe but the only time we ever see females of said race it's if they look like hot human women. That does actually bother me.

I don't agree with everything this woman has said but she deserves more attention and less dismissal and less, let's be honest here, arrogant and misogynistic responses. She's no radical crazy feminist, in fact I don't think such people exist. Instead I think the degree of arrogance and ignorance and blind hatred for women speaking about against what we percieve as the 'natural order of things' has resulted in us classifying ANY dislike of our pop culture from a feminist standpoint as being hysterical and overreacting.

Reading the reactions on this thread are far more obnoxious, aggressive, arrogant and hysterical then anything that woman could ever dream of writing. Stop saying she's 'giving you material to badmouth feminists' because you're doing that yourselves.


And I agree.

(OT but by god Metroid Other M completly destroyed Samus as a strong female character)

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Functional armour is sexy. Stripperific outfits are just silly.

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Lord Aesir wrote...
 Use the singular, as Miranda is the only character I noticed with the camera work your talking about.


There are a few angles where they focus on or give major attention to Samara's breasts. Like when the camera zooms up the first time you see her, or the way when she executes that merc the upwards shot shows her underboob taking up most of the frame.
Still, it's not AS obnoxious as Miranda.

Though I'll note that she flatout admitted to using sex appeal as a tool.  Still, I don't like the camera work around her either.


I think if I remember right, she says that her looks and appeal were 'designed' to give her an 'edge'. I don't remember her ever actually saying that she intentionally uses it.
But still even if she did, that's some lousy femme fatale work. Imagine if Michelle Pfifer's Catwoman just flat out explained:
"I use my sex appeal as a tool!"

Rather then have it be obvious in her performance.

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Why is she so obsessed with these chicks breasts? There is nothing wrong with the majority of those shots. I honestly can't tell what she would want. Oh no, the character is in the middle of the screen facing the camera, boob shot!


Yeah it was pretty ridiculous.  She also complained that when a woman puts her arm out it sort of forms a line to her boobs.  Did she want characters with arms coming out of their heads?

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Craig McDermott wrote...
So what exactly constitutes a necessary ass shot?  Should all scenes with Miranda be shot from the other side of a closed door so that feminists aren't offended?


How about an ordinary shot of her talking normally like a person, face to face? An ordinary shot of her talking like a person, a mid shot of her FACE and region around her FACE while she talks, not her slouching or the camera zooming in on her ass. Or is that just too difficult? There was no NEED to have the camera hover on her ass every single time she speaks!

Good thing this blogger didn't play The Witcher 2.  It actually shows completely nude women.  I imagine nothing is more offensive to a feminist.


I imagine hearing you talk is enough. The base level of misognyny is strong in this one.



It really doesn't matter if it's a man or woman making the argument. I would disregard this argument just as quickly if it was made by a man.  The fact that an argument is loud and angry doesn't make it coherent, logical, or important.

Same applies to your angry, aggressive and loud mouthed arguments. Good day.

EDIT: By the way I must leave now to go to Tafe, so please leave your responses at the door. I'll get to them when I can.

Modifié par V-rex, 13 juin 2011 - 03:26 .


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V-rex wrote...

Craig McDermott wrote...
So what exactly constitutes a necessary ass shot?  Should all scenes with Miranda be shot from the other side of a closed door so that feminists aren't offended?


How about an ordinary shot of her talking normally like a person, face to face? An ordinary shot of her talking like an actual person? Or is that just too difficult? There was no NEED to have the camera hover on her ass every single time she speaks!


Lol, they were ordinary shots of her talking.  Have you seen a movie recently?  Shots are often not stationary and set on someone's face.  They vary the shots to keep things interesting.  Sometimes, a woman's ass might be in those shots, as hard as that might be to deal with.

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Had to come back for this.

Craig McDermott wrote...

Lol, they were ordinary shots of her talking.  Have you seen a movie recently?  Shots are often not stationary and set on someone's face.  They vary the shots to keep things interesting.  Sometimes, a woman's ass might be in those shots, as hard as that might be to deal with.


Over and over and over again? Even in non dialogue scenes? Even going so far as to have a dialogue option PAUSE on the screen frozen on a big ol' shot of her ass?

Listen, this isn't random. Some story board artist somewhere made a concious decision to make the camera hang over her ass like that. The question is, why?

EDIT: Okay NOW I'm off.

Modifié par V-rex, 13 juin 2011 - 03:31 .


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V-rex wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...
 Use the singular, as Miranda is the only character I noticed with the camera work your talking about.


There are a few angles where they focus on or give major attention to Samara's breasts. Like when the camera zooms up the first time you see her, or the way when she executes that merc the upwards shot shows her underboob taking up most of the frame.
Still, it's not AS obnoxious as Miranda.

Though I'll note that she flatout admitted to using sex appeal as a tool.  Still, I don't like the camera work around her either.


I think if I remember right, she says that her looks and appeal were 'designed' to give her an 'edge'. I don't remember her ever actually saying that she intentionally uses it.
But still even if she did, that's some lousy femme fatale work. Imagine if Michelle Pfifer's Catwoman just flat out explained:
"I use my sex appeal as a tool!"

Rather then have it be obvious in her performance.

  Well, I suppose a few of Samara's shots might have been dodgy, but nothing that jumped out at me anything like Miranda did.  I'll admit that Miranda was a little over sexualized but I assumed that she used those looks intentionally.  At least, her pose as she says that certainly implied it to me.

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Don't care, just felt like being self indulgent.

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Craig McDermott wrote...

V-rex wrote...

Craig McDermott wrote...
So what exactly constitutes a necessary ass shot?  Should all scenes with Miranda be shot from the other side of a closed door so that feminists aren't offended?


How about an ordinary shot of her talking normally like a person, face to face? An ordinary shot of her talking like an actual person? Or is that just too difficult? There was no NEED to have the camera hover on her ass every single time she speaks!


Lol, they were ordinary shots of her talking.  Have you seen a movie recently?  Shots are often not stationary and set on someone's face.  They vary the shots to keep things interesting.  Sometimes, a woman's ass might be in those shots, as hard as that might be to deal with.

  Okay, let's not kid here,  the shots of Miranda's ass were obviously more frequent than any other character by a long shot and far too lingering.  Thats undeniable.

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shumworld wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

The feminist blogger need to see this,

Image IPB


Moar objectifying males plz. :wizard:


Speaking of which I wonder if we'll see Kaiden looking this good.

Jacob doesn't have the Trapezius muscles so Kaidan better have that

Image IPB

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Why is fan service suddenly an evil thing?

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Craig McDermott wrote...

V-rex wrote...

Craig McDermott wrote...
So what exactly constitutes a necessary ass shot?  Should all scenes with Miranda be shot from the other side of a closed door so that feminists aren't offended?


How about an ordinary shot of her talking normally like a person, face to face? An ordinary shot of her talking like an actual person? Or is that just too difficult? There was no NEED to have the camera hover on her ass every single time she speaks!


Lol, they were ordinary shots of her talking.  Have you seen a movie recently?  Shots are often not stationary and set on someone's face.  They vary the shots to keep things interesting.  Sometimes, a woman's ass might be in those shots, as hard as that might be to deal with.


Camera position isn't randomized; they vary the shots, but positioning a camera RIGHT behind Miranda's bubble is NOT accidental or coincidental.

The cinematic director most likely approved the shot with a grin on his face. ^_^

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greed89 wrote...

Why is fan service suddenly an evil thing?


Never was an evil thing, but you never see the camera center on Jacob's ass, do you?

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Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

greed89 wrote...

Why is fan service suddenly an evil thing?


Never was an evil thing, but you never see the camera center on Jacob's ass, do you?

actualy there were a few shots.

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A few things:

1. Objectifying shots only matter if you care. V-rex goes on about how s/he can't take Miranda seriously because her ass is in her/his face all the time. However, I had no problem taking her seriously. I took her very seriously. In fact, I related to her on a couple of levels, despite having her ass in my face all the time. This is completely subjective.

2. Legion does not have a gender or sex. Legion is an "it."

3. "Vulnerable displays of weakness" is an interpretation of a showing of emotion. Did Tali, Miranda and Jack really need to start crying? Maybe not, but I found it believable. Showing that you have feelings is not a weakness whenever it shows up. Perhaps Jacob could have cried about his father. But perhaps he was brought up in a society where men crying about things like that is heavily discouraged. A problem is seen here because it is looked for.

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I get what the blogger was saying, and yes, I found Miranda's ass shots to be annoying after a certain point (and mostly random once I got the alternate pack DLC- random metal bottom in my face, why?) but I do take issue with how the writer tries to frame her argument and how she perceives the characters, which is through a very specific lens- one that I feel went looking for problems.

My biggest annoyance is that there seems to be a complete lack of regard to the fact that the women in question- and honestly, all the female squaddies-totally own their sexuality and themselves. Yes, Miranda uses hers for an edge and yes, I have some questions about the functionality of Samara's epic cleavage (although I imagine they have distracted one than one baddie). Do I believe part of this was fanservice? Yes, absolutely, in the same way Thane's outfit was as well, along with Jacob's, which emphasises a 'good' male body, at least by human standards.

Miranda, Jack, and Samara make no apologies for who they are. They are three women shaped by extraordinary circumstances who didn't assume the position and take everything life was throwing at them. One rescued her sister from a emotionally unstable homelife, one disavowed mortal luxuries and endured great hardship to track down the daughter she loves and kill her, and one went from tragedy to tragedy and came out damaged pretty badly.


For the individual characters: I didn't particularly care to see Miranda's jumpsuit eat her ass every time we had a conversation, but that outfit fits her personality. Functional, attractive, it gets the job done. Yes, it's figure emphasising. Yes, Miranda knows that. And yes, Miranda uses that to her advantage. Yeah, I like her alternate outfit better but to each their own- there are plenty of strong women out there who like to flaunt their assets, whether for compliments or as a form of control. As a woman who buys all her clothing baggy and dark so I never have to worry about colour clash (aka you wouldn't find me dead in that sort of get-up), I'm cool with that and I don't care. If some dude wants to drool over her in the meantime, have fun with that. The IRL Miranda's will eat you up and spit you out.


For Samara: Part of the outfit I saw as justicars needing something extremely iconic- something you can spot from a distance that says 'I will f--k your **** up' in bright, bold letters. That outfit does the trick. Additionally, justicars operate in asari space, where boobs are the standard since everyone already has them. That outfit might not be particularly sexual where they come from. Again, yes, there probably was fanservice involved, and as a straight girl myself, her breasts aren't particularly alluring to me. That doesn't stop her from being a freight train of awesome. Sexy outfit =/= automatic weakness.


As for Jack... poor Jack, she's less a woman and more an example of what happens when a society (in this case, the mini ecosystem of Cerberus) fosters pragmatism over morality. She's broken as well, and she doesn't mind letting you know. Her outfit is less 'look at me, I've got ******' and more 'I'm powerful, I'm scary, I'm not like you and I'm letting you know that right now.'. She lives to be abrasive, rude, and frightening to the average layman. Her outfit is meant to offend. It makes perfect sense for her character. Although I admit, they should have made an alternate outfit for some jaunts. That has to get chilly after a while.

There are still roads to be crossed when it comes to gender equality in video games- hell, in society in general- but I find these articles to be problematic mostly because a lot of it is less 'this is what's wrong with the world!' and more 'These don't fit my views of a STRONG WOMAN and therefore it is WRONG.' Strength means so many different things to different people, and by such emphasis, at least towards the ends, on the physical, the actual social aspect of the article is lost in a wave of 'boobs everywhere, I don't like it CATER TO MY PERSONAL OPINION OF WHAT A WOMAN SHOULD BE.' I have always believed that feminism is nothing more than a demand for the right to prove myself- and for all women to do so- and that we are capable of excelling in whatever field we choose as well as any man could. I hate when it becomes something about how we dress or carry ourselves. We're all women, and we should embrace the many nuances that make us strong.

Modifié par Valentia X, 13 juin 2011 - 03:51 .


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This lady's blog is like anything you read or hear: you take the parts that are true, the parts you agree with and learn from them and discard the rest. I agree that some parts are over-sexualized, the reason for Asari maidens working as dancers is sketchy at best. Even Matriarch Atheyta agreed that the Maidens should be doing something more constructive than spending their maiden years as dancers, but I digress.

Bioware gets points with me for allowing us to create and customize a female Shepard. I love games and I always have to settle for playing with a male so what ME has to offer was a welcome change. I also commend BW for opening up alien romance for Fem Shepard with an alien that doesn't feel like a blue lesbian lover. As far as the vulnerability thing she complains about, realistically, women show emotion. period. Like it or not, its just the way the universe made us, sorry ladies.

I think BW was trying to walk a tightrope that was bound to break; If the women show no emotion, women complain that they are too hard, cold and unfeeling. the word B**** is used. If the women cry, then their "character is undermined". This is a no win situation, so I have no comment on it. As for Miranda's boob/arse shots, meh, Male Shep is, well a male. Men look at boobs and arse all the time, so this is a lot like reality. Besides, Miri was genetically engineered to be sexually attractive, so of course BW is going to show it off. I don't even take issue with Jack's lack of clothing, he clothing makes a statement and serves a purpose; its part of her. Changing her outfit would be like ripping the N7 patch from Shepard. Samara's clothing isn't a real concern either. If I could find armor IRL that let me flaunt my DD cleavage and protected me, I would. Besides, she is a Justicar, its not like anyone could get close to her.

As far as her problem with Laura Croft's redesign, that's ridiculous. I like the more human Laura, less sexual, more character development. She is more realistic this way. Oh, and if this woman blogger had read the ME comics with the illusive man's origins, she would have seen her first Turian woman. Also, if she had watched E3 coverage on G4, she would have seen her first Krogan woman. Last but not least, I love the ME universe as much as the next fan boy...er...girl in my case. I have posters, collector's editions, I have played each game at least 6 times, I know the ME series' Codices better than I know the anatomy material for my final exam Thursday, but, can't we all just stop and remember that while ME is awesome, engrossing, and life altering, it is still JUST....A...GAME.

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fan service

women have curves, some more than others. Women being equal to men doesn't mean they have to be identical and their breasts have to be shrunk down to 0.

Miranda was biologically designed to be hot and powerful and smart
Jack is a psycho was experimented on most her life. She is still quite young as well
Samara has a normal bod

In most scifi tv and games people in the future wear body suits

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Valentia X wrote...

I get what the blogger was saying, and yes, I found Miranda's ass shots to be annoying after a certain point (and mostly random once I got the alternate pack DLC- random metal bottom in my face, why?) but I do take issue with how the writer tries to frame her argument and how she perceives the characters, which is through a very specific lens- one that I feel went looking for problems.

My biggest annoyance is that there seems to be a complete lack of regard to the fact that the women in question- and honestly, all the female squaddies-totally own their sexuality and themselves. Yes, Miranda uses hers for an edge and yes, I have some questions about the functionality of Samara's epic cleavage (although I imagine they have distracted one than one baddie). Do I believe part of this was fanservice? Yes, absolutely, in the same way Thane's outfit was as well, along with Jacob's, which emphasises a 'good' male body, at least by human standards.

Miranda, Jack, and Samara make no apologies for who they are. They are three women shaped by extraordinary circumstances who didn't assume the position and take everything life was throwing at them. One rescued her sister from a emotionally unstable homelife, one disavowed mortal luxuries and endured great hardship to track down the daughter she loves and kill her, and one went from tragedy to tragedy and came out damaged pretty badly.


For the individual characters: I didn't particularly care to see Miranda's jumpsuit eat her ass every time we had a conversation, but that outfit fits her personality. Functional, attractive, it gets the job done. Yes, it's figure emphasising. Yes, Miranda knows that. And yes, Miranda uses that to her advantage. Yeah, I like her alternate outfit better but to each their own- there are plenty of strong women out there who like to flaunt their assets, whether for compliments or as a form of control. As a woman who buys all her clothing baggy and dark so I never have to worry about colour clash (aka you wouldn't find me dead in that sort of get-up), I'm cool with that and I don't care. If some dude wants to drool over her in the meantime, have fun with that. The IRL Miranda's will eat you up and spit you out.


For Samara: Part of the outfit I saw as justicars needing something extremely iconic- something you can spot from a distance that says 'I will f--k your **** up' in bright, bold letters. That outfit does the trick. Additionally, justicars operate in asari space, where boobs are the standard since everyone already has them. That outfit might not be particularly sexual where they come from. Again, yes, there probably was fanservice involved, and as a straight girl myself, her breasts aren't particularly alluring to me. That doesn't stop her from being a freight train of awesome. Sexy outfit =/= automatic weakness.


As for Jack... poor Jack, she's less a woman and more an example of what happens when a society (in this case, the mini ecosystem of Cerberus) fosters pragmatism over morality. She's broken as well, and she doesn't mind letting you know. Her outfit is less 'look at me, I've got ******' and more 'I'm powerful, I'm scary, I'm not like you and I'm letting you know that right now.'. She lives to be abrasive, rude, and frightening to the average layman. Her outfit is meant to offend. It makes perfect sense for her character. Although I admit, they should have made an alternate outfit for some jaunts. That has to get chilly after a while.

There are still roads to be crossed when it comes to gender equality in video games- hell, in society in general- but I find these articles to be problematic mostly because a lot of it is less 'this is what's wrong with the world!' and more 'These don't fit my views of a STRONG WOMAN and therefore it is WRONG.' Strength means so many different things to different people, and by such emphasis, at least towards the ends, on the physical, the actual social aspect of the article is lost in a wave of 'boobs everywhere, I don't like it CATER TO MY PERSONAL OPINION OF WHAT A WOMAN SHOULD BE.' I have always believed that feminism is nothing more than a demand for the right to prove myself- and for all women to do so- and that we are capable of excelling in whatever field we choose as well as any man could. I hate when it becomes something about how we dress or carry ourselves. We're all women, and we should embrace the many nuances that make us strong.



I am starting a slow clap for this post...anyone want to join?