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[AerisBru]

EbonyStarr wrote...

(...)Sexy outfit =/= automatic weakness.
(...)
We're all women, and we should embrace the many nuances that make us strong.

I am starting a slow clap for this post...anyone want to join?

I'll join you. 

[GodWood]

EbonyStarr wrote...
I am starting a slow clap for this post...anyone want to join?

No thankyou.

[KainrycKarr]

EbonyStarr wrote...

This lady's blog is like anything you read or hear: you take the parts that are true, the parts you agree with and learn from them and discard the rest. I agree that some parts are over-sexualized, the reason for Asari maidens working as dancers is sketchy at best. Even Matriarch Atheyta agreed that the Maidens should be doing something more constructive than spending their maiden years as dancers, but I digress. Bioware gets points with me for allowing us to create and customize a female Shepard. I love games and I always have to settle for playing with a male so what ME has to offer was a welcome change. I also commend BW for opening up alien romance for Fem Shepard with an alien that doesn't feel like a blue lesbian lover. As far as the vulnerability thing she complains about, realistically, women show emotion. period. Like it or not, its just the way the universe made us, sorry ladies. I think BW was trying to walk a tightrope that was bound to break; If the women show no emotion, women complain that they are too hard, cold and unfeeling. the word B**** is used. If the women cry, then their "character is undermined". This is a no win situation, so I have no comment on it. As for Miranda's boob/arse shots, meh, Male Shep is, well a male. Men look at boobs and arse all the time, so this is a lot like reality. Besides, Miri was genetically engineered to be sexually attractive, so of course BW is going to show it off. I don't even take issue with Jack's lack of clothing, he clothing makes a statement and serves a purpose; its part of her. Changing her outfit would be like ripping the N7 patch from Shepard. Samara's clothing isn't a real concern either. If I could find armor IRL that let me flaunt my DD cleavage and protected me, I would. Besides, she is a Justicar, its not like anyone could get close to her. As far as her problem with Laura Croft's redesign, that's ridiculous. I like the more human Laura, less sexual, more character development. She is more realistic this way. Oh, and if this woman blogger had read the ME comics with the illusive man's origins, she would have seen her first Turian woman. Also, if she had watched E3 coverage on G4, she would have seen her first Krogan woman. Last but not least, I love the ME universe as much as the next fan boy...er...girl in my case. I have posters, collector's editions, I have played each game at least 6 times, I know the ME series' Codices better than I know the anatomy material for my final exam Thursday, but, can't we all just stop and remember that while ME is awesome, engrossing, and life altering, it is still JUST....A...GAME.

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[EbonyStarr]

KainrycKarr wrote...

EbonyStarr wrote...

This lady's blog is like anything you read or hear: you take the parts that are true, the parts you agree with and learn from them and discard the rest. I agree that some parts are over-sexualized, the reason for Asari maidens working as dancers is sketchy at best. Even Matriarch Atheyta agreed that the Maidens should be doing something more constructive than spending their maiden years as dancers, but I digress. Bioware gets points with me for allowing us to create and customize a female Shepard. I love games and I always have to settle for playing with a male so what ME has to offer was a welcome change. I also commend BW for opening up alien romance for Fem Shepard with an alien that doesn't feel like a blue lesbian lover. As far as the vulnerability thing she complains about, realistically, women show emotion. period. Like it or not, its just the way the universe made us, sorry ladies. I think BW was trying to walk a tightrope that was bound to break; If the women show no emotion, women complain that they are too hard, cold and unfeeling. the word B**** is used. If the women cry, then their "character is undermined". This is a no win situation, so I have no comment on it. As for Miranda's boob/arse shots, meh, Male Shep is, well a male. Men look at boobs and arse all the time, so this is a lot like reality. Besides, Miri was genetically engineered to be sexually attractive, so of course BW is going to show it off. I don't even take issue with Jack's lack of clothing, he clothing makes a statement and serves a purpose; its part of her. Changing her outfit would be like ripping the N7 patch from Shepard. Samara's clothing isn't a real concern either. If I could find armor IRL that let me flaunt my DD cleavage and protected me, I would. Besides, she is a Justicar, its not like anyone could get close to her. As far as her problem with Laura Croft's redesign, that's ridiculous. I like the more human Laura, less sexual, more character development. She is more realistic this way. Oh, and if this woman blogger had read the ME comics with the illusive man's origins, she would have seen her first Turian woman. Also, if she had watched E3 coverage on G4, she would have seen her first Krogan woman. Last but not least, I love the ME universe as much as the next fan boy...er...girl in my case. I have posters, collector's editions, I have played each game at least 6 times, I know the ME series' Codices better than I know the anatomy material for my final exam Thursday, but, can't we all just stop and remember that while ME is awesome, engrossing, and life altering, it is still JUST....A...GAME.

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I have no clue what you mean by that comment...Should I be laughing?

[ilego]

Sorry but I want to see if this siginture works

[KainrycKarr]

EbonyStarr wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

EbonyStarr wrote...

This lady's blog is like anything you read or hear: you take the parts that are true, the parts you agree with and learn from them and discard the rest. I agree that some parts are over-sexualized, the reason for Asari maidens working as dancers is sketchy at best. Even Matriarch Atheyta agreed that the Maidens should be doing something more constructive than spending their maiden years as dancers, but I digress. Bioware gets points with me for allowing us to create and customize a female Shepard. I love games and I always have to settle for playing with a male so what ME has to offer was a welcome change. I also commend BW for opening up alien romance for Fem Shepard with an alien that doesn't feel like a blue lesbian lover. As far as the vulnerability thing she complains about, realistically, women show emotion. period. Like it or not, its just the way the universe made us, sorry ladies. I think BW was trying to walk a tightrope that was bound to break; If the women show no emotion, women complain that they are too hard, cold and unfeeling. the word B**** is used. If the women cry, then their "character is undermined". This is a no win situation, so I have no comment on it. As for Miranda's boob/arse shots, meh, Male Shep is, well a male. Men look at boobs and arse all the time, so this is a lot like reality. Besides, Miri was genetically engineered to be sexually attractive, so of course BW is going to show it off. I don't even take issue with Jack's lack of clothing, he clothing makes a statement and serves a purpose; its part of her. Changing her outfit would be like ripping the N7 patch from Shepard. Samara's clothing isn't a real concern either. If I could find armor IRL that let me flaunt my DD cleavage and protected me, I would. Besides, she is a Justicar, its not like anyone could get close to her. As far as her problem with Laura Croft's redesign, that's ridiculous. I like the more human Laura, less sexual, more character development. She is more realistic this way. Oh, and if this woman blogger had read the ME comics with the illusive man's origins, she would have seen her first Turian woman. Also, if she had watched E3 coverage on G4, she would have seen her first Krogan woman. Last but not least, I love the ME universe as much as the next fan boy...er...girl in my case. I have posters, collector's editions, I have played each game at least 6 times, I know the ME series' Codices better than I know the anatomy material for my final exam Thursday, but, can't we all just stop and remember that while ME is awesome, engrossing, and life altering, it is still JUST....A...GAME.

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I have no clue what you mean by that comment...Should I be laughing?

It means you may want divvy up future long-posts into more manageable paragraphs. In it's current, it hurts me eyes to try to read it, and I don't mean that as an insult.

[Raiil]

EbonyStarr wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

EbonyStarr wrote...

This lady's blog is like anything you read or hear: you take the parts that are true, the parts you agree with and learn from them and discard the rest. I agree that some parts are over-sexualized, the reason for Asari maidens working as dancers is sketchy at best. Even Matriarch Atheyta agreed that the Maidens should be doing something more constructive than spending their maiden years as dancers, but I digress. Bioware gets points with me for allowing us to create and customize a female Shepard. I love games and I always have to settle for playing with a male so what ME has to offer was a welcome change. I also commend BW for opening up alien romance for Fem Shepard with an alien that doesn't feel like a blue lesbian lover. As far as the vulnerability thing she complains about, realistically, women show emotion. period. Like it or not, its just the way the universe made us, sorry ladies. I think BW was trying to walk a tightrope that was bound to break; If the women show no emotion, women complain that they are too hard, cold and unfeeling. the word B**** is used. If the women cry, then their "character is undermined". This is a no win situation, so I have no comment on it. As for Miranda's boob/arse shots, meh, Male Shep is, well a male. Men look at boobs and arse all the time, so this is a lot like reality. Besides, Miri was genetically engineered to be sexually attractive, so of course BW is going to show it off. I don't even take issue with Jack's lack of clothing, he clothing makes a statement and serves a purpose; its part of her. Changing her outfit would be like ripping the N7 patch from Shepard. Samara's clothing isn't a real concern either. If I could find armor IRL that let me flaunt my DD cleavage and protected me, I would. Besides, she is a Justicar, its not like anyone could get close to her. As far as her problem with Laura Croft's redesign, that's ridiculous. I like the more human Laura, less sexual, more character development. She is more realistic this way. Oh, and if this woman blogger had read the ME comics with the illusive man's origins, she would have seen her first Turian woman. Also, if she had watched E3 coverage on G4, she would have seen her first Krogan woman. Last but not least, I love the ME universe as much as the next fan boy...er...girl in my case. I have posters, collector's editions, I have played each game at least 6 times, I know the ME series' Codices better than I know the anatomy material for my final exam Thursday, but, can't we all just stop and remember that while ME is awesome, engrossing, and life altering, it is still JUST....A...GAME.

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I have no clue what you mean by that comment...Should I be laughing?

Your comment needs to be spaced out a bit, it's kind of hard to read. 

[SLooPPy JOE]

EbonyStarr wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

I get what the blogger was saying, and yes, I found Miranda's ass shots to be annoying after a certain point (and mostly random once I got the alternate pack DLC- random metal bottom in my face, why?) but I do take issue with how the writer tries to frame her argument and how she perceives the characters, which is through a very specific lens- one that I feel went looking for problems.

My biggest annoyance is that there seems to be a complete lack of regard to the fact that the women in question- and honestly, all the female squaddies-totally own their sexuality and themselves. Yes, Miranda uses hers for an edge and yes, I have some questions about the functionality of Samara's epic cleavage (although I imagine they have distracted one than one baddie). Do I believe part of this was fanservice? Yes, absolutely, in the same way Thane's outfit was as well, along with Jacob's, which emphasises a 'good' male body, at least by human standards.

Miranda, Jack, and Samara make no apologies for who they are. They are three women shaped by extraordinary circumstances who didn't assume the position and take everything life was throwing at them. One rescued her sister from a emotionally unstable homelife, one disavowed mortal luxuries and endured great hardship to track down the daughter she loves and kill her, and one went from tragedy to tragedy and came out damaged pretty badly.


For the individual characters: I didn't particularly care to see Miranda's jumpsuit eat her ass every time we had a conversation, but that outfit fits her personality. Functional, attractive, it gets the job done. Yes, it's figure emphasising. Yes, Miranda knows that. And yes, Miranda uses that to her advantage. Yeah, I like her alternate outfit better but to each their own- there are plenty of strong women out there who like to flaunt their assets, whether for compliments or as a form of control. As a woman who buys all her clothing baggy and dark so I never have to worry about colour clash (aka you wouldn't find me dead in that sort of get-up), I'm cool with that and I don't care. If some dude wants to drool over her in the meantime, have fun with that. The IRL Miranda's will eat you up and spit you out.


For Samara: Part of the outfit I saw as justicars needing something extremely iconic- something you can spot from a distance that says 'I will f--k your **** up' in bright, bold letters. That outfit does the trick. Additionally, justicars operate in asari space, where boobs are the standard since everyone already has them. That outfit might not be particularly sexual where they come from. Again, yes, there probably was fanservice involved, and as a straight girl myself, her breasts aren't particularly alluring to me. That doesn't stop her from being a freight train of awesome. Sexy outfit =/= automatic weakness.


As for Jack... poor Jack, she's less a woman and more an example of what happens when a society (in this case, the mini ecosystem of Cerberus) fosters pragmatism over morality. She's broken as well, and she doesn't mind letting you know. Her outfit is less 'look at me, I've got ******' and more 'I'm powerful, I'm scary, I'm not like you and I'm letting you know that right now.'. She lives to be abrasive, rude, and frightening to the average layman. Her outfit is meant to offend. It makes perfect sense for her character. Although I admit, they should have made an alternate outfit for some jaunts. That has to get chilly after a while.

There are still roads to be crossed when it comes to gender equality in video games- hell, in society in general- but I find these articles to be problematic mostly because a lot of it is less 'this is what's wrong with the world!' and more 'These don't fit my views of a STRONG WOMAN and therefore it is WRONG.' Strength means so many different things to different people, and by such emphasis, at least towards the ends, on the physical, the actual social aspect of the article is lost in a wave of 'boobs everywhere, I don't like it CATER TO MY PERSONAL OPINION OF WHAT A WOMAN SHOULD BE.' I have always believed that feminism is nothing more than a demand for the right to prove myself- and for all women to do so- and that we are capable of excelling in whatever field we choose as well as any man could. I hate when it becomes something about how we dress or carry ourselves. We're all women, and we should embrace the many nuances that make us strong.

I am starting a slow clap for this post...anyone want to join?

I'll join

[EbonyStarr]

Valentia X wrote...

EbonyStarr wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

EbonyStarr wrote...

This lady's blog is like anything you read or hear: you take the parts that are true, the parts you agree with and learn from them and discard the rest. I agree that some parts are over-sexualized, the reason for Asari maidens working as dancers is sketchy at best. Even Matriarch Atheyta agreed that the Maidens should be doing something more constructive than spending their maiden years as dancers, but I digress. Bioware gets points with me for allowing us to create and customize a female Shepard. I love games and I always have to settle for playing with a male so what ME has to offer was a welcome change. I also commend BW for opening up alien romance for Fem Shepard with an alien that doesn't feel like a blue lesbian lover. As far as the vulnerability thing she complains about, realistically, women show emotion. period. Like it or not, its just the way the universe made us, sorry ladies. I think BW was trying to walk a tightrope that was bound to break; If the women show no emotion, women complain that they are too hard, cold and unfeeling. the word B**** is used. If the women cry, then their "character is undermined". This is a no win situation, so I have no comment on it. As for Miranda's boob/arse shots, meh, Male Shep is, well a male. Men look at boobs and arse all the time, so this is a lot like reality. Besides, Miri was genetically engineered to be sexually attractive, so of course BW is going to show it off. I don't even take issue with Jack's lack of clothing, he clothing makes a statement and serves a purpose; its part of her. Changing her outfit would be like ripping the N7 patch from Shepard. Samara's clothing isn't a real concern either. If I could find armor IRL that let me flaunt my DD cleavage and protected me, I would. Besides, she is a Justicar, its not like anyone could get close to her. As far as her problem with Laura Croft's redesign, that's ridiculous. I like the more human Laura, less sexual, more character development. She is more realistic this way. Oh, and if this woman blogger had read the ME comics with the illusive man's origins, she would have seen her first Turian woman. Also, if she had watched E3 coverage on G4, she would have seen her first Krogan woman. Last but not least, I love the ME universe as much as the next fan boy...er...girl in my case. I have posters, collector's editions, I have played each game at least 6 times, I know the ME series' Codices better than I know the anatomy material for my final exam Thursday, but, can't we all just stop and remember that while ME is awesome, engrossing, and life altering, it is still JUST....A...GAME.

Wall of Text crits KainrycKarr for 999999999 hitpoints.
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I have no clue what you mean by that comment...Should I be laughing?

Your comment needs to be spaced out a bit, it's kind of hard to read. 

Oh sorry. Formatting fail. :/

[EbonyStarr]

"Your comment needs to be spaced out a bit, it's kind of hard to read. smilie"
I fixed it, not that you will read it again, but yeah...

"Wall of Text crits KainrycKarr for 999999999 hitpoints.
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Now that I know what a "crit" is, I am laughing!

[Akizora]

Am I the only one with female friends that show cleavage and wear skintight outfits? I don't think its very urnealistic for Miranda and Samara to do the same..Same with Jacob and honestly Thane (although it is more about his personaliy there than his pecs).

Jack however can't really be compared without treading into a dangerous area of discussion with her past experience of sexual abuse, but it does fit her character to view her body and sex as tools since that is all they have ever been to her.

[KainrycKarr]

Montezuma IV wrote...

@ilego Those are tacky. I'm sure there's better ones around.

@EbonyStar Exactly. First off people put feminist in this category of "idiotic" cults, when they don't even know what it is. Secondly, I've been trying to say for the longest....all these issues that are becoming disproportionately problematic...all this talk about "Ashley looks like a ****** sl*t!"....It's okay to show concern. But it's still a damn game so don't blow it up every where you step.

Feminism as a movement isn't idiotic. However, it does seem to attract a lot of crazies. Then again...what movement doesn't?

Modifié par KainrycKarr, 13 juin 2011 - 04:22 .

[Raiil]

EbonyStarr wrote...



I think BW was trying to walk a tightrope that was bound to break; If the women show no emotion, women complain that they are too hard, cold and unfeeling. the word B**** is used. If the women cry, then their "character is undermined".  

I actually feel like this is a pretty good summation of the issue. BW is trying to let us decide how we feel about an indivdual, much as we do IRL, and people are calling foul if it doesn't square what they prefer in a certain gender/class/race/etc.

[onelifecrisis]

SLooPPy JOE wrote...

EbonyStarr wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

I get what the blogger was saying, and yes, I found Miranda's ass shots to be annoying after a certain point (and mostly random once I got the alternate pack DLC- random metal bottom in my face, why?) but I do take issue with how the writer tries to frame her argument and how she perceives the characters, which is through a very specific lens- one that I feel went looking for problems.

My biggest annoyance is that there seems to be a complete lack of regard to the fact that the women in question- and honestly, all the female squaddies-totally own their sexuality and themselves. Yes, Miranda uses hers for an edge and yes, I have some questions about the functionality of Samara's epic cleavage (although I imagine they have distracted one than one baddie). Do I believe part of this was fanservice? Yes, absolutely, in the same way Thane's outfit was as well, along with Jacob's, which emphasises a 'good' male body, at least by human standards.

Miranda, Jack, and Samara make no apologies for who they are. They are three women shaped by extraordinary circumstances who didn't assume the position and take everything life was throwing at them. One rescued her sister from a emotionally unstable homelife, one disavowed mortal luxuries and endured great hardship to track down the daughter she loves and kill her, and one went from tragedy to tragedy and came out damaged pretty badly.


For the individual characters: I didn't particularly care to see Miranda's jumpsuit eat her ass every time we had a conversation, but that outfit fits her personality. Functional, attractive, it gets the job done. Yes, it's figure emphasising. Yes, Miranda knows that. And yes, Miranda uses that to her advantage. Yeah, I like her alternate outfit better but to each their own- there are plenty of strong women out there who like to flaunt their assets, whether for compliments or as a form of control. As a woman who buys all her clothing baggy and dark so I never have to worry about colour clash (aka you wouldn't find me dead in that sort of get-up), I'm cool with that and I don't care. If some dude wants to drool over her in the meantime, have fun with that. The IRL Miranda's will eat you up and spit you out.


For Samara: Part of the outfit I saw as justicars needing something extremely iconic- something you can spot from a distance that says 'I will f--k your **** up' in bright, bold letters. That outfit does the trick. Additionally, justicars operate in asari space, where boobs are the standard since everyone already has them. That outfit might not be particularly sexual where they come from. Again, yes, there probably was fanservice involved, and as a straight girl myself, her breasts aren't particularly alluring to me. That doesn't stop her from being a freight train of awesome. Sexy outfit =/= automatic weakness.


As for Jack... poor Jack, she's less a woman and more an example of what happens when a society (in this case, the mini ecosystem of Cerberus) fosters pragmatism over morality. She's broken as well, and she doesn't mind letting you know. Her outfit is less 'look at me, I've got ******' and more 'I'm powerful, I'm scary, I'm not like you and I'm letting you know that right now.'. She lives to be abrasive, rude, and frightening to the average layman. Her outfit is meant to offend. It makes perfect sense for her character. Although I admit, they should have made an alternate outfit for some jaunts. That has to get chilly after a while.

There are still roads to be crossed when it comes to gender equality in video games- hell, in society in general- but I find these articles to be problematic mostly because a lot of it is less 'this is what's wrong with the world!' and more 'These don't fit my views of a STRONG WOMAN and therefore it is WRONG.' Strength means so many different things to different people, and by such emphasis, at least towards the ends, on the physical, the actual social aspect of the article is lost in a wave of 'boobs everywhere, I don't like it CATER TO MY PERSONAL OPINION OF WHAT A WOMAN SHOULD BE.' I have always believed that feminism is nothing more than a demand for the right to prove myself- and for all women to do so- and that we are capable of excelling in whatever field we choose as well as any man could. I hate when it becomes something about how we dress or carry ourselves. We're all women, and we should embrace the many nuances that make us strong.

I am starting a slow clap for this post...anyone want to join?

I'll join

I'm definitely not joining in. This sort of bullcrap really does my head in.

Let's make a game where a woman who has a lasergun in her vagina walks around the battlefield naked, spreading her legs at every enemy. Then people on this forum can say "It's not sexualisation! She has to open her legs to shoot the laser!! How is she supposed to shoot the laser without opening her legs???"

[Legbiter]

Who cares what some aging man-hating feminist thinks?

[KainrycKarr]

Legbiter wrote...

Who cares what some aging man-hating feminist thinks?

oh dear.

[the_one_54321]

onelifecrisis wrote...
Let's make a game where a woman who has a lasergun in her vagina walks around the battlefield naked, spreading her legs at every enemy. Then people on this forum can say "It's not sexualisation! She has to open her legs to shoot the laser!! How is she supposed to shoot the laser without opening her legs???"

I think you may have broken that analogy by reving it too high. Or ranting it too hard. Or something like that.

[EbonyStarr]

onelifecrisis wrote...

SLooPPy JOE wrote...

EbonyStarr wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

I get what the blogger was saying, and yes, I found Miranda's ass shots to be annoying after a certain point (and mostly random once I got the alternate pack DLC- random metal bottom in my face, why?) but I do take issue with how the writer tries to frame her argument and how she perceives the characters, which is through a very specific lens- one that I feel went looking for problems.

My biggest annoyance is that there seems to be a complete lack of regard to the fact that the women in question- and honestly, all the female squaddies-totally own their sexuality and themselves. Yes, Miranda uses hers for an edge and yes, I have some questions about the functionality of Samara's epic cleavage (although I imagine they have distracted one than one baddie). Do I believe part of this was fanservice? Yes, absolutely, in the same way Thane's outfit was as well, along with Jacob's, which emphasises a 'good' male body, at least by human standards.

Miranda, Jack, and Samara make no apologies for who they are. They are three women shaped by extraordinary circumstances who didn't assume the position and take everything life was throwing at them. One rescued her sister from a emotionally unstable homelife, one disavowed mortal luxuries and endured great hardship to track down the daughter she loves and kill her, and one went from tragedy to tragedy and came out damaged pretty badly.


For the individual characters: I didn't particularly care to see Miranda's jumpsuit eat her ass every time we had a conversation, but that outfit fits her personality. Functional, attractive, it gets the job done. Yes, it's figure emphasising. Yes, Miranda knows that. And yes, Miranda uses that to her advantage. Yeah, I like her alternate outfit better but to each their own- there are plenty of strong women out there who like to flaunt their assets, whether for compliments or as a form of control. As a woman who buys all her clothing baggy and dark so I never have to worry about colour clash (aka you wouldn't find me dead in that sort of get-up), I'm cool with that and I don't care. If some dude wants to drool over her in the meantime, have fun with that. The IRL Miranda's will eat you up and spit you out.


For Samara: Part of the outfit I saw as justicars needing something extremely iconic- something you can spot from a distance that says 'I will f--k your **** up' in bright, bold letters. That outfit does the trick. Additionally, justicars operate in asari space, where boobs are the standard since everyone already has them. That outfit might not be particularly sexual where they come from. Again, yes, there probably was fanservice involved, and as a straight girl myself, her breasts aren't particularly alluring to me. That doesn't stop her from being a freight train of awesome. Sexy outfit =/= automatic weakness.


As for Jack... poor Jack, she's less a woman and more an example of what happens when a society (in this case, the mini ecosystem of Cerberus) fosters pragmatism over morality. She's broken as well, and she doesn't mind letting you know. Her outfit is less 'look at me, I've got ******' and more 'I'm powerful, I'm scary, I'm not like you and I'm letting you know that right now.'. She lives to be abrasive, rude, and frightening to the average layman. Her outfit is meant to offend. It makes perfect sense for her character. Although I admit, they should have made an alternate outfit for some jaunts. That has to get chilly after a while.

There are still roads to be crossed when it comes to gender equality in video games- hell, in society in general- but I find these articles to be problematic mostly because a lot of it is less 'this is what's wrong with the world!' and more 'These don't fit my views of a STRONG WOMAN and therefore it is WRONG.' Strength means so many different things to different people, and by such emphasis, at least towards the ends, on the physical, the actual social aspect of the article is lost in a wave of 'boobs everywhere, I don't like it CATER TO MY PERSONAL OPINION OF WHAT A WOMAN SHOULD BE.' I have always believed that feminism is nothing more than a demand for the right to prove myself- and for all women to do so- and that we are capable of excelling in whatever field we choose as well as any man could. I hate when it becomes something about how we dress or carry ourselves. We're all women, and we should embrace the many nuances that make us strong.

I am starting a slow clap for this post...anyone want to join?

I'll join

I'm definitely not joining in. This sort of bullcrap really does my head in.

Let's make a game where a woman who has a lasergun in her vagina walks around the battlefield naked, spreading her legs at every enemy. Then people on this forum can say "It's not sexualisation! She has to open her legs to shoot the laser!! How is she supposed to shoot the laser without opening her legs???"

As I said, its just a game. Yes, society and the gaming industry as a whole has come a long way, with a couple hundred miles still left to go, but I really don't think ME is going to be the deciding factor or the platform for social change towords the characterization of women. Yeah, it has to start somewhere, but it would be more effective to start the change in real life than to compalin about the design of fictional characters.

[javierabegazo]

Nope, this has spiraled out of control far enough. LOCKDOWN.