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Siansonea II wrote...

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The Asari seem to me like a type of parasite.


Symbiotes maybe, but parasites harm or kill the host organism, which is not at all like an asari.


Parasites never kill their host intentionally, because that would kill them, too (unless they find a new host fast enough). The only parasites that do do not have to have a host to survive. Symbiotes, yes. But it's a very loose symbiotic relationship. They don't need other species to procreate, they just choose to do so.

Doesn't anybody listen in biology class these days...:devil:

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...but asari do harm their host organism. They deliberately infiltrate alien cultures to make them easier for asari to manage. It's how they expand and defend their empire. I don't blame them for it, it's a good tactic, but it is to the detriment of the non-asari species who winds up in a subservient role.

The other problem is that by encouraging ALL asari to mate with aliens, who will sometimes mate for life, the asari lower the birthrates of alien species whilst growing their own. This is likely how their population has gotten so large and it ties in directly with the asari being so influential.

They are an insidious species... To defeat them, we must be even more so.

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Saphra Deden wrote...
Keeping a barrier up 100% of the time is impractical. That's what armor is there for.


User Alert...Not all the time, just in battle. We don't have an armor rating anyway. ( That's probably your point, huh. )

You want the system that existed in Mass Effect 1.


That would be good. That was when armor actually ment something ie..Dmg Prot. ME1 just had too much invo. If they gave us upgraded armor as the game progressed, it would be diff.

EDIT: ME2 it's more of a fassion statement.

Modifié par Senior Cinco, 13 juin 2011 - 11:26 .


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Senior Cinco wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...
Keeping a barrier up 100% of the time is impractical. That's what armor is there for.


User Alert...Not all the time, just in battle. We don't have an armor rating anyway. ( That's probably your point, huh. )

You want the system that existed in Mass Effect 1.


That would be good. That was when armor actually ment something ie..Dmg Prot. ME1 just had too much invo. If they gave us upgraded armor as the game progressed, it would be diff.

EDIT: ME2 it's more of a fassion statement.


Regarding armor and ME1. I'm guessing invo means inventory :P...

I like the options that ME1 gave me but maybe it was a bit too much whereas ME2 have way too little.

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When I say the system in ME1 I just mean that squadmates have casual outfits they wear on the Normandy and then actual combat armor for missions.

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I wish that if we recruited Morinth, we got her armour as the loyalty reward. The crew wouldn't have known the difference. Plus it looked nicer.

Ironically, it wasn't the designs of the armour/clothes of the squad members that irritated me. It was that they couldn't be customized like in ME1. About 2.5 seconds after realizing this, the designs started to annoy me.

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@Saphra: Oh in that way :D

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I think all these problems could have been resolved had we had the ability to mess with the ship's thermostat.

Players who like it hot get a nice, steamy sauna in which all the ladies (and Jacob) dress at appropriate levels.

Players who like it professional can turn the AC to 'friggen cold', and helpfully convince the characters onboard to wear more clothes.

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008Zulu wrote...

I wish that if we recruited Morinth, we got her armour as the loyalty reward. The crew wouldn't have known the difference. Plus it looked nicer.

Ironically, it wasn't the designs of the armour/clothes of the squad members that irritated me. It was that they couldn't be customized like in ME1. About 2.5 seconds after realizing this, the designs started to annoy me.


If Morinth would wear her Asari commando uniform in battle I'd always kill Samara without second thought.

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

I think all these problems could have been resolved had we had the ability to mess with the ship's thermostat.

Players who like it hot get a nice, steamy sauna in which all the ladies (and Jacob) dress at appropriate levels.

Players who like it professional can turn the AC to 'friggen cold', and helpfully convince the characters onboard to wear more clothes.


They don't seem bothered by the cold in the Heretic space station. :P

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I have no qualms with the armor of Morinth, Samara, Jack, Liara and Miranda mainly and only because they are powerful biotics, and it's very logical to assume that they have biotic barriers active beneath their skin level, I believe it's mentioned at some point during the games. Which is why it makes sense for Ashley to have to wear armor (Which she's confirmed to do in Mass 3).

Jacob, Kaidan and Thane, however... Their biotic-ness are not nearly as touched upon in the story and while I understand that Thane's chest must be open to air due to his disease, Jacob should be wearing armor. Kaidan wore the most ridiculous looking armor on Horizon, but at least he did.


I find it ridiculous to assume that Tali would change armor often. She gets exposed to real air, there's a great possibility of death. She shouldn't take it off unless it's absolutely necessary.

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PMC65 wrote...

@octoberfire...

Now my femshep would love Cara the Mord'Sith. Is that an option? Posted Image

Of course. You just need to pass her Agiel test ;)

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thurmanator692 wrote...

I love how Miranda's suit gets flack by characters in game while Jack prances along in a nipple belt


At least the cam in her dialogues focuse on her face,not the ass and breasts.

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78stonewobble wrote...

While I do like cleavage as much as the next guy/girl... I just don't like her in the game. By her I don't necessarily mind her character but how it is... hmm portraited.

She's supposed to be a member of an order casting off earthly posessions and relationships in the pursuit of justice. Yet conversationally shepards "curiosity" is welcome...  Combine that with a very "logical" choice of armor for a life consisting of fighting the worst scum in the galaxy.


Yeah I did find it a bit out of place.

Samara is suppose to be this highly conservative warrior monk ridding the universe of evil. But then she dresses like she just came from the local club? Only reason I can really think for her to dress like that is to blend in at the more seedy places of the galaxy like Omega. But Justicars aren't suppose to be sublte or sneaky really. They're suppose to openly confront the corrupt. True enough Asari don't have a male sex that slobbers over them so culturally they may be different, though I don't entirely buy that. Even though they only have one gender I'd still regard it as essentially "showing-off". Which to me seems wrong since Justicars are suppose to be modest individuals.

Samara's character was real interesting I mean she's dedicated enough to her order that she'll kill her own daughter. Something most people would never do, no matter how "bad" their child may be. She'll save an "innocent" person, but she has no qualms brutally killing those who might stand in her way. You really have to ask is she good or is she really no better then the bad guys she kills?

As interesting as Samara character is, it gets sort of neglected in light of the way she's presented in-game. So to most she's essentially a really serious hot Space Mom punishing bad guys

I don't mind having sexy characters in a game, but sometimes it feels like Bioware goes a bit overboard with the sex appeal at times. There's too much focus on making Samara look pleasing in place of making her seem a warrior monk.

Modifié par Bluko, 13 juin 2011 - 05:47 .


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Bluko wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

While I do like cleavage as much as the next guy/girl... I just don't like her in the game. By her I don't necessarily mind her character but how it is... hmm portraited.

She's supposed to be a member of an order casting off earthly posessions and relationships in the pursuit of justice. Yet conversationally shepards "curiosity" is welcome...  Combine that with a very "logical" choice of armor for a life consisting of fighting the worst scum in the galaxy.


Yeah I did find it a bit out of place.

Samara is suppose to be this highly conservative warrior monk ridding the universe of evil. But then she dresses like she just came from the local club? Only reason I can really think for her to dress like that is to blend in at the more seedy places of the galaxy like Omega. But Justicars aren't suppose to be sublte or sneaky really. They're suppose to openly confront the corrupt. True enough Asari don't have a male sex that slobbers over them so culturally they may be different, though I don't entirely buy that. Even though they only have one gender I'd still regard it as essentially "showing-off". Which to me seems wrong since Justicars are suppose to be modest individuals.

Samara's character was real interesting I mean she's dedicated enough to her order that she'll kill her own daughter. Something most people would never do, no matter how "bad" their child may be. She'll save an "innocent" person, but she has no qualms brutally killing those who might stand in her way. You really have to ask is she good or is she really no better then the bad guys she kills?

As interesting as Samara character is, it gets sort of neglected in light of the way she's presented in-game. So to most she's essentially a really serious hot Space Mom punishing bad guys

I don't mind having sexy characters in a game, but sometimes it feels like Bioware goes a bit overboard with the sex appeal at times. There's too much focus on making Samara look pleasing in place of making her seem a warrior monk.


Keep in mind we're talking about an alien culture here.  Conservative to them is not necessarily what we'd consider "conservative".  Asari are open about their sexuality pretty universally.  Samara going around showing skin is not seen as unusual or daring for anyone in that society.

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Talking to the most vaunted expert and authority we have on Asari culture, Matriarch Bartender, the '****ty/mercenary' phase is as much about teenage rebellion/imaturity as anything else. 'Settled down' Asari have generally been... not sex symbols.

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octoberfire wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

@octoberfire...

Now my femshep would love Cara the Mord'Sith. Is that an option? Posted Image

Of course. You just need to pass her Agiel test ;)


Anything for Cara! Posted Image

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Personally, and this is purely aesthetic, I'd wished they made her boobs look less fake. They looked liked some dodgy late 80's porn star who'd had a couple of silicone balls slapped in down at K-Mart.

If you can't properly show an enticing cleavage, then cover them up and just give me a sense of mass.

As for her voice, I always found that hugely seductive.

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Siansonea II wrote...

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The designers themselves have specifically used the term "space babes" to describe the asari. So unfortunately, yes, even their most respected embodiments of the law have to be sultry sexpots.


...by human standards...


They are characters created by humans, apparently part of the reason being for us to drool over. What's your point?

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Saphra Deden wrote...

...but asari do harm their host organism. They deliberately infiltrate alien cultures to make them easier for asari to manage. It's how they expand and defend their empire. I don't blame them for it, it's a good tactic, but it is to the detriment of the non-asari species who winds up in a subservient role.


..Well for starters that is a very different thing from being parasitic like a mosquito or something. They aren'y causing physical harm to anyone.
"Infiltrating cultures" is also misleading becuase the asari are one of the oldest species in this series, that is, they were the first to the Citadel and all. It would probably be more acccurate to say that other species infiltrated the asari's culture.

You seem to be saying that by being involved in other species' lives, they are harming them. This really doesn't make sense.

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If the asari do manage to lower the birth rate of every other species below replacement rate, through this paranoid delusion of intentional parasitism, humanity can consider itself a participant in the glorious process of natural selection, as it was out-performed and out-bred by a "fitter" species.

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magelet wrote...


..Well for starters that is a very different thing from being parasitic like a mosquito or something. They aren'y causing physical harm to anyone.


No, it is much more covert than that.

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Bluko wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

While I do like cleavage as much as the next guy/girl... I just don't like her in the game. By her I don't necessarily mind her character but how it is... hmm portraited.

She's supposed to be a member of an order casting off earthly posessions and relationships in the pursuit of justice. Yet conversationally shepards "curiosity" is welcome...  Combine that with a very "logical" choice of armor for a life consisting of fighting the worst scum in the galaxy.


Yeah I did find it a bit out of place.

Samara is suppose to be this highly conservative warrior monk ridding the universe of evil. But then she dresses like she just came from the local club? Only reason I can really think for her to dress like that is to blend in at the more seedy places of the galaxy like Omega. But Justicars aren't suppose to be sublte or sneaky really. They're suppose to openly confront the corrupt. True enough Asari don't have a male sex that slobbers over them so culturally they may be different, though I don't entirely buy that. Even though they only have one gender I'd still regard it as essentially "showing-off". Which to me seems wrong since Justicars are suppose to be modest individuals.

Samara's character was real interesting I mean she's dedicated enough to her order that she'll kill her own daughter. Something most people would never do, no matter how "bad" their child may be. She'll save an "innocent" person, but she has no qualms brutally killing those who might stand in her way. You really have to ask is she good or is she really no better then the bad guys she kills?

As interesting as Samara character is, it gets sort of neglected in light of the way she's presented in-game. So to most she's essentially a really serious hot Space Mom punishing bad guys

I don't mind having sexy characters in a game, but sometimes it feels like Bioware goes a bit overboard with the sex appeal at times. There's too much focus on making Samara look pleasing in place of making her seem a warrior monk.


Yeah, like the camera moving from her feet up to her head to show off her V neck when we first meet her.

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This is like arguing that Jedi shouldn't use flashy impractical moves during saber duels. Sabre styles should be 100% utilitarian and boring in keeping with Jedi principles :)

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Lapis Lazuli wrote...

This is like arguing that Jedi shouldn't use flashy impractical moves during saber duels. Sabre styles should be 100% utilitarian and boring in keeping with Jedi principles :)


Yes they should, every weapon style should.  However there is utility in being flashy.