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Do you have a *Red List* for ME3?


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If it's not a roleplaying reason, then my concern and regard for his opinion vanishes.  Should he care?  No, but I don't care that he doesn't care, and so on.

And it sounds like someone making claims that are irrelevant to mine.

 

Then what? YOu're trying to say his SHEPARD is psychpathic? Because that's not exactly what you said. You responded to him directly and not the Shepard he was playing.  

Plus there's no way his Shepard can even be psychotic for killing Jack beause Shep doesn't kill her. The laser does. (or whatever else) Shepard had no way of knowing she was gonna die from that. 


His intention was antisocial.  He wanted Jack dead because he claims she's a psychopath.  Antisocial behavior is a symptom of psychopathy.  He's being antisocial in wanting someone dead for being antisocial.

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yorkj86 wrote...

His intention was antisocial.  He wanted Jack dead because he claims she's a psychopath.  Antisocial behavior is a symptom of psychopathy.  He's being antisocial in wanting someone dead for being antisocial.

 


So you're calling a human being a psychopath (you didn't say anti-social)  for wanting a bunch of pixels dead.

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Just curious.
Maybe you've got some Team members that you dislike and that will never make it into your ME?

- Jack. Over the top, annoying, psychopathic. Go to hell.


HIGHLY ironic.

go look up what ironic means please...:whistle:


It's the psychopath calling a "psychopath" a psychopath.


Gotcha. 

That makes...Loads of sense. Really. Killing a video game character is totally equal to enjoying killing actual people. Looks like someone takes their pixels a wee bit too seriously. 


Yeah...not seeing any "irony".  

Fictional characters =/= real people. Especially when your only choices to not have that fictional character around is to kill them. (otherwise the game assumes the two of you are buddy buddy). Throwing around accusations of psychopath (if you had said anti-social from the getgo I might've agreed with you) because of video game actions is idiocy. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 juin 2011 - 10:57 .


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Tali: Annoying, useless and overrated. Have fun in those vents. Maybe you should have waited until after the suicide mission to start an argument with a decent character.


In an effort to steer this away from being that conversation how do you find Legion interesting? He comes in so late that the game is over before I have any time to really explore his character. To me, he's just some robot that gets thrown into my squad near the end that we never really talk about.


Not if you go to the Derelict Reaper early and don't care about your crew dying, then you have plenty of time to become acquainted with him.

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Gotcha. 

That makes...Loads of sense. Really. Killing a video game character is totally equal to enjoying killing actual people. Looks like someone takes their pixels a wee bit too seriously. 


Yeah...not seeing any "irony".  

Fictional characters =/= real people. Especially when your only choices to not have that fictional character around is to kill them. (otherwise the game assumes the two of you are buddy buddy). Throwing around accusations of psychopath (if you had said anti-social from the getgo I might've agreed with you) because of video game actions is idiocy. 


Sure.  I'll backpedal just enough to call him anti-social and a hypocrite.

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But killing Jack for being psychpatic doesn't make him a hypocrite.  At best it makes him a bit of a jerk unless he killed her because he fears what she'd do to other people which makes him a concerned citizen since you can't drop her off at the nearest jail and would set her loose on helpless civilians. (or he killed her for his Shepard being railroaded into recruiting her in the first place like I did). 

He didn't kill her for being anti-social according to that post.  

Really I'd stick to ignoring the post. Having the need to call him names for what he does to a fictional character is a bit...well you don't look sensible either doing it. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 juin 2011 - 11:08 .


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Not recruiting, even if someone pointed a gun to my head:

Zaeed
Samara
Grunt

I did not like all three of them.

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I don't have one of these red list things - why the hell should I limit myself by getting rid of someone who might be useful to a mission that is the fulcrum galatic civilization swings on? Someone's an idiot, but they can trash bad guys like it's a vocation, I want them on my ship. I'll abide their idiocy because the picture is bigger than me, my morality or what any of society might deem as laudable or not - without this mission, society as we know it ends . So oooh, I'll just not recruit the biotic bulldozer because she's a baaaad person. Ok... and we went off to try and recruit Okeer too - the krogan equivalent of Josef Mengele. Probably shouldn't recruit Zaeed either because he's a paid murderer, same for Thane... I don't think ethics or morality came very high on the Cerberus recruitment list. Getting the job done, on the other hand, seemed more of a priority.

I leave no-one behind. Except Morinth. Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather not have Hannibal Lecter in a confined space with me...

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I play heavily renegade but I keep all alive because it makes sense. These people are there to help you go to hell and back. No reason at all to sacrifice them, or not recruit them

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Ryzaki wrote...

But killing Jack for being psychpatic doesn't make him a hypocrite.  At best it makes him a bit of a jerk unless he killed her because he fears what she'd do to other people which makes him a concerned citizen since you can't drop her off at the nearest jail and would set her loose on helpless civilians. 

He didn't kill her for being anti-social according to that post.  

Really I'd stick to ignoring the post. Having the need to call him names for what he does to a fictional character is a bit...well you don't look sensible either doing it. 


He wanted her dead for being a psychopath.  We went over this, that a symptom of psychopathy is extreme antisocial behavior.

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I have a couple Sheps that'll be coming into ME3. Each one has different squad mates that died, for RP reasons. That way I will get all the content, just not in a single shot. For me it made no sense for everyone to live or die in the SM. A few casualities here and there seemed more realisitic and not stupid deaths like sending someone into the vents that's not qualified.

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Could you please stop talking about my psyche now?
I'm feeling just fine, thank you.
This is about killing people who don't even exist, let's stay there.
If you've got a problem with me, write me a message.

Modifié par Porenferser, 12 juin 2011 - 11:11 .


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yorkj86 wrote..

He wanted her dead for being a psychopath.  We went over this, that a symptom of psychopathy is extreme antisocial behavior.

 

A sympton =! makes a complete psychopath. 

Many if not most people have some anti-social behaviors it's when you have a cocktail that you become a psychopath. Killing pixels isn't enough to make someone psychopath in the least. 

Regardless the OP wanted to stop so I shall. 

I wonder if I should kill off Tali to force my side in the Quarian/Geth war? 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 juin 2011 - 11:13 .


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Porenferser wrote...

Could you please stop talking about my psyche now?
I'm feeling just fine, thank you.
This is about killing people who don't even exist, let's stay there.
If you've got a problem with me, write me a message.


Well Kelly Chambers keeps an eye on everyone's mental health, maybe you need some alone time with her.

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Unfortunately she is genetic paste now, will be hard for her to watch me ;=)

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I don't have a black list but I am planning to create a Shepard that kills as many squadmates as possible to see what happens in me3.

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Unfortunately she is genetic paste now, will be hard for her to watch me ;=)

 

Oh yeah you know you can just save the N7 missions right? They count (since there's a mission complete screen) and you can talk to Legion post game without losing any of the crew. 

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yorkj86 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

But killing Jack for being psychpatic doesn't make him a hypocrite.  At best it makes him a bit of a jerk unless he killed her because he fears what she'd do to other people which makes him a concerned citizen since you can't drop her off at the nearest jail and would set her loose on helpless civilians. 

He didn't kill her for being anti-social according to that post.  

Really I'd stick to ignoring the post. Having the need to call him names for what he does to a fictional character is a bit...well you don't look sensible either doing it. 


He wanted her dead for being a psychopath.  We went over this, that a symptom of psychopathy is extreme antisocial behavior.


Killing off a video game character is not an anti-social behavior.  It's a game. Fiction.  Accusing someone as anti-social/psychopath because of a game, you need to get a grip.

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I seriously don't want to see anyone that died from your squad in ME2 to return in ME3 because of a retcon.

Then there are just TWO things I want to see.

1) No male character from previous ME games making a pass at Shepard, I don't give a crap for their reasons or so called character development. There is NOTHING to suggest any of them are gay and I would rather keep it that way for myself ( I don't care about a dialogue option for Shepard to flirt it with them since I can ignore that easily ).

2) A very good, solid reason that is LOGICAL for why Cerberus would work with the Reapers.

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I prefer unwanted person just to sit on the ship and wait until I'll be interested enough to bring them on missions. In my last complete playthrough normal squad selection was Jacob/Jack; Jack also was a LI and became on of the most favourite LI - that's why I prefer to keep everyone, just for keeping more variants for each possible playthrough in ME3. For now, counting all the saves, I have all possible squaddies alive - and all of them, except Mordin and Thane, dead.
Curiosity!

Modifié par mineralica, 12 juin 2011 - 11:21 .


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Just Jacob.
I had Zero choice about Kaiden biting it.
And before y'all spew "there was always Ashley", I am totally enamored with her.

My only 'redlist' would be ANYBODY who's idiotic enough to get in my way, Why do you ask?

Modifié par ohupthis, 13 juin 2011 - 12:22 .


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I'm hoping for a chance to kill off Liara in ME3, that would be a definite reason for me to buy the game. Ash died on Virmire in all my ME1 playthroughs, and I had one ME2 playthrough where Garrus, Tali, and Samara died on the SM. Morinth dies in all my playthroughs. I find some characters more interesting than others but those mentioned are the ones who really irritate me to the point where I don't want them on my ship, or in my team.

Modifié par sesheta255, 12 juin 2011 - 11:27 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

Porenferser wrote...

Unfortunately she is genetic paste now, will be hard for her to watch me ;=)

 

Oh yeah you know you can just save the N7 missions right? They count (since there's a mission complete screen) and you can talk to Legion post game without losing any of the crew. 

I know, but I did it on purpose:P
I really couldn't stand the *Commander, you've got a new message on your private terminal* thing anymore.
Really, no joke, this sentence nearly drove me mad.

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No 'red list'. Even on a renegade play through I keep everyone alive for content/future use.

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The Council.

God i hate those idiots.


But...how can you possibly hate this?


Soul reason I EVER saved them. That quote alone is just golden.

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All of the characters have personality, and I wouldn't really want anyone dead. Kaiden was the least personable of them all, but it still sucked that he had to die.