I didn't read your post, but I don't find Reapers terribly compelling.
Also, I'm all about Kim Possible.
I hope the next ME has REAL villains this time...
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 12:09
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Kai Leng has the makings of a good personal antagonist. He's about as skilled and resourceful as Shepard, with a lack of moral fiber that would probably make a Renegade cringe sometimes.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 12:11
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The story in ME2 didn't have the same buildup that the original did. There were some good moments, but it just didn't have the same epic feel.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 12:19
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I foresee the Illusive Man and Kai Leng as our main enemies. I'm looking forward to Kai as a sort of anti-Shepard, hunting him down and all. The Illusive fulfills a more Saren-esque role, I think. A master mind but perhaps tragically deceived.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 12:21
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I felt nowhere as drawn into the story of ME2 as I did in the 1st,probably because during the 1st you have no idea where or when you'd find Saren or how you'd stop him.Then in the 2nd it's like...
"Hello Shepard I'm the Illusive Man,our enemies are hiding behind this relay you know the location of the whole time"
"Hello Shepard I'm the Illusive Man,our enemies are hiding behind this relay you know the location of the whole time"
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 12:25
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ohupthis wrote...
LOL you are joking right?
I read the titles of the paragraphs.
They're all dead save for TIM, Aria, Udina(who by the way should be), why do you ask?
Real villians? what do you normally play? Villians.......good god, did I just fall into a pointless discussion?
I ask because you seem to be focusing on the word "villain" instead of focusing on how Bioware has used villainous/antagnistic characters to great effect.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 12:30
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Ron Stoppable wrote...
I agree. and I think Saren was the perfect middle ground. He wasn't some goofy "Dr. Claw" type villain. He felt emotionally engaging to the character. The same is true for pretty much every antagonist in ME1. Bioware's smart enough to not make a goofy villain like that. I just felt ME2 was too emotionally displaced. I didn't feel like there was any character for me to place all of my character's anger/hate on.
Uh, he was more or less Doctor Claw-caliber in Revelation other than "I'm just avenging my dead brother."
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 12:49
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The villains are the Reapers. They are the ultimate villain...they always have been. Organic life only exists so they can harvest us....we exist because they allow it.
A wrench was thrown into their way of re-entering the galaxy, so they tried to have the Vanguard forcefully open the Citadel Relay. It didn't work, so they used their slaves, the Collectors, to begin harvesting humanity and re-establish a Reaper presence within the galaxy by breaking down humans into organic paste and using it as a main ingredient in their reproduction efforts.
They were trapped out of the galaxy, so they went to Plan B and continued on with their cycle of harvesting, albeit very much slowed down and diminished. If the Collectors had been successful, not only would humanity have been extinct, the race they consider the biggest threat to them, but you csn assume the human Reaper would then try to reopen the Citadel Relay, along with an assault of combined Collector might and heretic Geth.
That plan got foiled, and it is starting to annoy them a little bit. We definitely have their attention, although I'm sure they have zero fear of humans, maybe a little more doubt when it comes to Shepard.
Here is my theory for Mass Effect 3...
A long time ago, a very advanced and intelligent race of organic life not only traversed the Milky Way, but Andromeda and thousands of other galaxies in the local galactic cluster. This advanced race had very intelligent and powerful starships, what we know as Reapers. The Reapers decided to rebel, and started a war with this species....and over time, through evolution and fabrication of weapons and war methods, wiped out or enslaved this race, be coming the most supreme life form in the local galactic cluster, craving control and power. Having ultimate control, they structured galactic infrastructures to be like fields, made for easy cultivation of organic life...limiting their development and allowing them to exist only as crops from which to harvest....exerting complete control and dominance over them.
The Protheans, who were very advanced, were so useful that instead of allowing them to become truly extinct, they turned them into Collectors. The Protheans developed technology on a level close to the Reapers, and knew more than the Reapers expected. Along with this, they learned about the race that had once upon a time created the Reapers, but were themselves wiped it by them.
As the Protheans left their Beacons, so did this race before the Reapers wiped them out. The Protheans found one, and in it was information about what happened, advanced technology and biological matter of this race.
As the Reapers advanced through the Milky Way....just like they do with the thousands of other galaxies in the local galactic cluster... Protheans set up a laboratory on Mars and wanted to meld this ancient race with a new evolving organism.
They implanted the genetic material of this race into humanity.
Humanity is the rebirth of that race...the race who created the Reapers...the only one with any chance of stopping them.
I know that has several holes...just a loose theory. May be way off, but interesting to consider.
A wrench was thrown into their way of re-entering the galaxy, so they tried to have the Vanguard forcefully open the Citadel Relay. It didn't work, so they used their slaves, the Collectors, to begin harvesting humanity and re-establish a Reaper presence within the galaxy by breaking down humans into organic paste and using it as a main ingredient in their reproduction efforts.
They were trapped out of the galaxy, so they went to Plan B and continued on with their cycle of harvesting, albeit very much slowed down and diminished. If the Collectors had been successful, not only would humanity have been extinct, the race they consider the biggest threat to them, but you csn assume the human Reaper would then try to reopen the Citadel Relay, along with an assault of combined Collector might and heretic Geth.
That plan got foiled, and it is starting to annoy them a little bit. We definitely have their attention, although I'm sure they have zero fear of humans, maybe a little more doubt when it comes to Shepard.
Here is my theory for Mass Effect 3...
A long time ago, a very advanced and intelligent race of organic life not only traversed the Milky Way, but Andromeda and thousands of other galaxies in the local galactic cluster. This advanced race had very intelligent and powerful starships, what we know as Reapers. The Reapers decided to rebel, and started a war with this species....and over time, through evolution and fabrication of weapons and war methods, wiped out or enslaved this race, be coming the most supreme life form in the local galactic cluster, craving control and power. Having ultimate control, they structured galactic infrastructures to be like fields, made for easy cultivation of organic life...limiting their development and allowing them to exist only as crops from which to harvest....exerting complete control and dominance over them.
The Protheans, who were very advanced, were so useful that instead of allowing them to become truly extinct, they turned them into Collectors. The Protheans developed technology on a level close to the Reapers, and knew more than the Reapers expected. Along with this, they learned about the race that had once upon a time created the Reapers, but were themselves wiped it by them.
As the Protheans left their Beacons, so did this race before the Reapers wiped them out. The Protheans found one, and in it was information about what happened, advanced technology and biological matter of this race.
As the Reapers advanced through the Milky Way....just like they do with the thousands of other galaxies in the local galactic cluster... Protheans set up a laboratory on Mars and wanted to meld this ancient race with a new evolving organism.
They implanted the genetic material of this race into humanity.
Humanity is the rebirth of that race...the race who created the Reapers...the only one with any chance of stopping them.
I know that has several holes...just a loose theory. May be way off, but interesting to consider.
