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[zeoduos]

I noticed that several people on this forum are a little bothered that ME3 might end up being like DA2.

Now, I have never played DA2. I have seen gameplay videos and such, and I can somewhat understand what fans are bothered about.

My question is: Aren't there two different teams of devs for ME and DA?

[JadeEffect]

I would believe so, but I'm sure some dev's have worked on both projects.

[Sarevok Synder]

One reason: EA

[Dannyboy9876]

Look, people on these forums whine about everything.

I wouldn't take.anything.they say seriously without a strong argumment or a good point.

[KotorEffect3]

They are two different teams that work on the two respective franchises and frankly I am sick of people bringing DA 2 into the Mass Effect discussions, I actualy liked DA 2 but that is not the point. The ME 3 development cycle is completely different than the DA 2 one was and they are two completely different franchises. Sometime people come on here just to whine about something and they will deliberatly look for anything to whine about. You have to take what the whiners say with a grain of salt. They spend too much time watching smudboy videos.

[Lumikki]

Yeah, ME and DA serie are different in so many ways. Some people see everyting so negative.

[Jerrybnsn]

I'll probably get this thread locked for saying this, but ME's Arrival dlc was presented very similiar to the way the DA series presented their dlc. This being the first time that the ME team has been fully under EA's wing for it's game and dlc. There was a lot of fan uproar over the arrival's release and after having just played it myself I can see why. It was one of those DA dlc where you say, that was short, nothing interesting, what was the point?

There's the fear.

Now it's only a matter of time before we find out if they went the DA route.

[Porenferser]

Pessimists are the better optimists.

[Clonedzero]

Sarevok Synder wrote...

One reason: EA

EA has owned bioware for longer than you realize.

[JadeEffect]

I thought EA has publishing rights.

[Sarevok Synder]

Clonedzero wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...

One reason: EA

EA has owned bioware for longer than you realize.

No, a lot of the games I liked were well into development when EA took over. It's the ones since I've the problem with.

[KotorEffect3]

Well this is typical this went from a comparing Mass Effect and Dragon Age thread to another "EA is the devil" thread. *sigh*. Don't worry bioware I still love your stuff

[zeoduos]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Well this is typical this went from a comparing Mass Effect and Dragon Age thread to another "EA is the devil" thread. *sigh*. Don't worry bioware I still love your stuff

Lol, seriously. At least I got my question answered. Thanks.

[TexasToast712]

Because the Rosy Red tinted glasses wearers believe everything should be exactly like ME1.

[Da Mecca]

Because RPG elements and writing.

[Sarevok Synder]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Well this is typical this went from a comparing Mass Effect and Dragon Age thread to another "EA is the devil" thread. *sigh*. Don't worry bioware I still love your stuff

Where was EA compared to a devil? They are just a typical maximum profit, no matter what effect it has on the finished product company. Nothing wrong with it if that's what you're into.

[Khran1505]

I'm not sure where the worry is but fact of the matter is DA and ME both have two different development teams. What DA's development team failed with on DA2 was while DA presented us with a powerful story and shaped our character with a destiny to save the world through sacrifice of different kinds, DA2 didn't have any motivation or destiny. We were just trying to help our family out of poverty and do these occasional acts of pure nonsense that held no real weight.

Now ME on the other hand has so much promise, the dev team would have to DELIBERATELY mess around with it in order to turn it into a DA2 of this franchise. Mass Effect has had major build up, hell I wouldn't put it past them that they had ME3 planned all the way from the beginning and worked on ME1 and ME2 as the sort of introduction to what would eventually become the punchline of the entire trilogy. The stakes are high, we have a destiny that will either save us or doom us and our goal is clear: Save our homeworld and the entire galaxy from an ancient race of genocidal machines that have existed for millions of years.

Really, there should be no worry about this. The only thing people are truly getting their panties in a knot over is whether there'll be more RPG elements than ME2.

Modifié par Khran1505, 12 juin 2011 - 11:26 .

[Volus Warlord]

Simply assuming the worst at all times.

[Jerrybnsn]

If your going to have fears or concerns about a game in developement, better to voice them now than after it's released. Of course, ME has kept its lead designer through all its games and they've only been tweaking it, whereas DA had a completely new person in charge who didn't like Origins to begin with and did a major re-tooling.

[Canadish]

Sarevok Synder wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...

One reason: EA

EA has owned bioware for longer than you realize.

No, a lot of the games I liked were well into development when EA took over. It's the ones since I've the problem with.

Very true. Mass Effect 1 and Dragon Age Origins were both underway when EA bought out Bioware.
That means critical early development was fully under Bioware control.

Dragon Age's post release DLC was, on the whole, sub par.
Awakenings was a big let down from Origins.

Mass Effect 2 was their first major production out the gate made entirely under EA's watchful eye.

Considered fantastic, but dumbed down. DLC was hit and miss.
LOTSB was fan-bloody-tastic. Good value for money.
Arrival was a slap in the face and a big let down ending for ME2. Over priced for what you got.

Then Dragon Age 2 rolled in and....well, it was Dragon Age 2. It was awful because it was rushed, which lead to a huge list of problems with the game
Not going to derail this with a mega rant.
Either way, it was made fully under EA supervision.
So far no major DLC.

And now we have Mass Effect 3.
Things have been slowly getting worse and worse with Bioware.
Quality is declining.
TOR is said to be draining them from the various leaks.
More and more over priced DLC.
Rumors and reports of EA having DA2 review scores fixed.
Metacritic user score fixing from Bioware staff.
General name calling by angry DA2 devs, locking fans out of games.

So yeah, there is worry from their recent track record.
However, the Mass Effect team on the whole seem to be holding up better then the DA team.
On top of that all we've seen of Mass Effect 3 so far looks pretty damn great.
So, you'll see mixed reactions, but this is why everyone started out pretty negative

Hope that helped! 

Modifié par Canadish, 12 juin 2011 - 11:35 .

[Khran1505]

Canadish wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

Sarevok Synder wrote...

One reason: EA

EA has owned bioware for longer than you realize.

No, a lot of the games I liked were well into development when EA took over. It's the ones since I've the problem with.

Very true. Mass Effect 1 and Dragon Age Origins were both underway when EA bought out Bioware.

Dragon Age's post release DLC was, on the whole, sub par.
Awakenings was a big let down from Origins.

Mass Effect 2 was their first major production out the gate made entirely under EA's watchful eye.

Considered fantastic, but dumbed down. DLC was hit and miss.
LOTSB was fan-bloody-tastic. Good value for money.
Arrival was a slap in the face and a big let down ending for ME2. Over priced for what you got.

Then Dragon Age 2 rolled in and....well, it was Dragon Age 2. It was awful because it was rushed, which lead to a huge list of problems with the game
Not going to derail this with a mega rant.
Either way, it was made fully under EA supervision.
So far no major DLC.

And now we have Mass Effect 3.
Things have been slowly getting worse and worse with Bioware.
Quality is declining.
TOR is said to be draining them from the various leaks.
More and more over priced DLC.
Rumors and reports of EA having DA2 review scores fixed.
Metacritic user score fixing from Bioware staff.
General name calling by angry DA2 devs, locking fans out of games.

So yeah, there is worry from their recent track record.
However, the Mass Effect team on the whole seem to be holding up better then the DA team.
On top of that all we've seen of Mass Effect 3 so far looks pretty damn great.
So, you'll see mixed reactions, but this is why everyone started out pretty negative

Hope that helped! 

Like I said, different development teams. Mass Effect has shown promise and has been going up since the first game while Dragon Age hasn't faired well since the sequel.

And I have to disagree on Arrival being overpriced. It was only worth $6.99. That's just over £4 for me. That for an extra mission, story development and completing the final bridge between ME2 and ME3? Totally worth it, I say.

[Jerrybnsn]

I'm pretty sure ME2 was in production for about a year before EA bought them up in 2008. So the lead designer was fully entrenched and in control. When talk of DAII began EA was in full control and the lead designer for DA: Origins ended up leaving over direction of the series.

[Sarevok Synder]

Like I said, different development teams. Mass Effect has shown promise and has been going up since the first game while Dragon Age hasn't faired well since the sequel.

And I have to disagree on Arrival being overpriced. It was only worth $6.99. That's just over £4 for me. That for an extra mission, story development and completing the final bridge between ME2 and ME3? Totally worth it, I say.

Time will tell. This is pretty much the last chance I'm giving Bioware. Many didn't like the RPG elements being stripped from ME2 and voiced their opinion. Then DA2 was released later and did the exact same thing. They ignored the feed-back and are now paying the price. Yes it's two different development teams, but they are under the same umbrella. Caution is advised.

[Jerrybnsn]

A positive note is that the ME team obviously was not happy with ME3 enough that they kicked the launched date from November to TBD. This was done just a couple of weeks after DAII was released and fully blasted by their fans for the poor quality it had. But then they released the ME dlc Arrival and...well, you had gaming magazines even calling it disappointing, not just the fans.