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[Stardusk78]

If it was enough to take out the Collector ship, couldn't it also take out a Reaper? Doesn't the Normandy still have one in ME3?

[Rake21]

Not if the Alliance took it off.

Though, I'm not entirely convinced that it packs enough of a punch to take out robo-Cthulu

[nitrog100]

Probably. If a little one mounted in the Normandy could do that much damage, imagine what a giant Thanix Cannon could do mounted on the Destiny Ascension. It could probably rip through 2 or 3 Reapers. At the very least, it would even the field up a whole lot.

[WizenSlinky0]

No. The Thanix Cannon is a *miniaturized* version of what they scrapped together from Soverign. It gives a ship the firepower equivalent to a cruiser (which is the class the Collector ship belongs to). But a reaper would be Dreadnought class and even that is pushing it since they likely blow any currently serving Dreadnought out of the water.

They would have had to expand on the technology within the time gap for it to be a useful weapon. Not that it isn't *useful* as it gives smaller ships far more firepower than they had but it's no where near enough.

[Stardusk78]

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

No. The Thanix Cannon is a *miniaturized* version of what they scrapped together from Soverign. It gives a ship the firepower equivalent to a cruiser (which is the class the Collector ship belongs to). But a reaper would be Dreadnought class and even that is pushing it since they likely blow any currently serving Dreadnought out of the water.

They would have had to expand on the technology within the time gap for it to be a useful weapon. Not that it isn't *useful* as it gives smaller ships far more firepower than they had but it's no where near enough.

Hmm...if only TIM were on our side, we could develop a weapon to take out the Reapers.

[shnizzler93]

Yes. The first Normandy took out Sovereign in one shot, and the Thanix Cannon is more powerful. Granted, the new Normandy will still need help taking down the Reapers' shields.

[Someone With Mass]

Considering that heat is the key factor in it and that heat can pass through shields with no problem? Yes.

[Paulinius]

shnizzler93 wrote...

Yes. The first Normandy took out Sovereign in one shot, and the Thanix Cannon is more powerful. Granted, the new Normandy will still need help taking down the Reapers' shields.

Sovereign was destroyed only after the Sovereign-controlled Saren husk was killed while Soverign was still controlling it. At that point, its shields went down and the Alliance cruisers and the Normany went to town on it.

[nitrog100]

Paulinius wrote...

shnizzler93 wrote...

Yes. The first Normandy took out Sovereign in one shot, and the Thanix Cannon is more powerful. Granted, the new Normandy will still need help taking down the Reapers' shields.

Sovereign was destroyed only after the Sovereign-controlled Saren husk was killed while Soverign was still controlling it. At that point, its shields went down and the Alliance cruisers and the Normany went to town on it.

That had absolutely nothing to do with the Saren Husk. It was the concentrated fire on Sovereign that killed it. That would be like saying that the operator of a remote control plane died because it crashed into a tree.

[EsterCloat]

mrsph wrote...

A Reaper survived an orbital bombardment and was hardly scratched.

You think that dinky little canon is going to do anything but tickle it?

Um, I'm having some problems recalling when this happened. When did a Reaper get attacked by an orbital bombardment?

nitrog100 wrote...

Paulinius wrote...

shnizzler93 wrote...

Yes.
The first Normandy took out Sovereign in one shot, and the Thanix
Cannon is more powerful. Granted, the new Normandy will still need help
taking down the Reapers' shields.

Sovereign was destroyed
only after the Sovereign-controlled Saren husk was killed while
Soverign was still controlling it. At that point, its shields went down
and the Alliance cruisers and the Normany went to town on it.

That
had absolutely nothing to do with the Saren Husk. It was the
concentrated fire on Sovereign that killed it. That would be like saying
that the operator of a remote control plane died because it crashed
into a tree.

Except we don't know if remote controlling a plane is an appropriate analogue to what Sovereign did to Saren. The fact of the matter is, from what we can tell from the game, Sovereign's shields went down right after Shepard killed the Saren husk, thus allowing the Alliance fleet to take it out. The timing of Saren husk's destruction and Sovereign's shields going down are too close to be coincidental.

Modifié par EsterCloat, 13 juin 2011 - 01:06 .

[Mr.House]

EsterCloat wrote...

mrsph wrote...

A Reaper survived an orbital bombardment and was hardly scratched.

You think that dinky little canon is going to do anything but tickle it?

Um, I'm having some problems recalling when this happened. When did a Reaper get attacked by an orbital bombardment?

One of the E3 demos, Shepard calls in an orbital strike on the Reaper and it survives.

[Mr.House]

nitrog100 wrote...

That had absolutely nothing to do with the Saren Husk. It was the concentrated fire on Sovereign that killed it. That would be like saying that the operator of a remote control plane died because it crashed into a tree.

Replay ME. Once the Saren Husk was killed, Sovie's shields went down and it was parayalised, Hacket then says hit it with everyone we got and they go to town on it, the Normandy get's the last shot on it.

Modifié par Mr.House, 13 juin 2011 - 01:05 .

[Paulinius]

nitrog100 wrote...

Paulinius wrote...

shnizzler93 wrote...

Yes. The first Normandy took out Sovereign in one shot, and the Thanix Cannon is more powerful. Granted, the new Normandy will still need help taking down the Reapers' shields.

Sovereign was destroyed only after the Sovereign-controlled Saren husk was killed while Soverign was still controlling it. At that point, its shields went down and the Alliance cruisers and the Normany went to town on it.

That had absolutely nothing to do with the Saren Husk. It was the concentrated fire on Sovereign that killed it. That would be like saying that the operator of a remote control plane died because it crashed into a tree.

Shepard fights Saren/Sovereign husk.Sovereign destroys several Alliance cruisers during this time while their combined fire is ineffective against Sovereign. Shepard kills the Saren/Sovereign husk and then cutscene of Soverign lossing it's shields and then being able to be destroyed. Coincidence? I think not.

[Blitzkrieg0811]

Rake21 wrote...

robo-Cthulu

The horror D:>

[Admoniter]

I imagine a Reapers shields would be quite capable of taking the hit and then some. The heat would be the problem and I'm sure a Reaper shell is composed of crazy space armor. Besides the Thanix is Reaper tech; I imagine that the Reapers would develop defenses to this weapon in case a vanguard gets destroyed and then looted.

[Paulinius]

Mr.House wrote...

EsterCloat wrote...

mrsph wrote...

A Reaper survived an orbital bombardment and was hardly scratched.

You think that dinky little canon is going to do anything but tickle it?

Um, I'm having some problems recalling when this happened. When did a Reaper get attacked by an orbital bombardment?

One of the E3 demos, Shepard calls in an orbital strike on the Reaper and it survives.

I wonder if the ship firing on that Reaper in the demo was a dreadnaught. Supposedly, in the Krogan Reaper fight, you're supposed to lure the Reaper out so a Turian dreadnaught in orbit can get a clear shot at out. If dreadnaught can't take out the Reaper in the demo, I doubt it can take out one on Tuchanka. But we'll have to wait and see.

[EsterCloat]

Mr.House wrote...

EsterCloat wrote...

mrsph wrote...

A Reaper survived an orbital bombardment and was hardly scratched.

You think that dinky little canon is going to do anything but tickle it?

Um, I'm having some problems recalling when this happened. When did a Reaper get attacked by an orbital bombardment?

One of the E3 demos, Shepard calls in an orbital strike on the Reaper and it survives.

Oh right. Christ.

Still, a bigger Thanix Cannon could do some damage if it could get past those darn shields. Maybe Tali can share her shield draining tech with the rest of the galaxy...

[nitrog100]

Mr.House wrote...

nitrog100 wrote...

That had absolutely nothing to do with the Saren Husk. It was the concentrated fire on Sovereign that killed it. That would be like saying that the operator of a remote control plane died because it crashed into a tree.

Replay ME. Once the Saren Husk was killed, Sovie's shields went down and it was parayalised, Hacket then says hit it with everyone we got andt hey go to town on it, the Normandy get's the last shot on it.

Hate to break it to you but I just finished it again less than a week ago. Just because the cutscene started right after Saren died doesn't mean that you're the one that brought down the shields. Could it be that just maybe in the 2+ minutes that the entire Arcturus fleet plus any surviving Turian and Asari vessels were firing at Sovereign, they did some actual damage? Look it up. I think canon is that it was the fleet that took down Sovereign.

[Mr.House]

Now if all ships have a Thanix cannon, then yes, the Reapers would be at a huge disadvantage but I doubt that will happen.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

ATM the Thanix Cannon is best type of gun the galaxy has against the Reapers. It imitates what Reaper beams do, but iirc, the codex says it's still not quite as good as a Reaper's gun.