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[Marcy3655]

Merrill will turn out to be an evil character in DA3???    

I sure do..   and the crazy thing is I almost always end up romancing her because she is so cute and loveable and her story is so tragic...     

I am creating several new playthroughs without romancing her just in case she does turn out to be evil in the next installment of DA...      

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[request denied]

She seems to sweet to be bad but you never know .

[Icinix]

request denied wrote...

She seems to sweet to be bad but you never know .

Its usually the ones you least expect....

[Marcy3655]

I know what you mean, it's all the talk of blood magic and the mirror and demons, her clan being frightened of her, her somewhat enigmatic characterization, etc.. is what makes me think this way... I certainly hope I'm wrong because well... I fell in love with her from the first playthrough... lol

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[True Zarken]

You could rivalmance her so she doesn't think that way?

[request denied]

I think she is naive and a bit silly but she had the best of intentions when she turned to blood magic .

[Mr.House]

Not this again. Blood magic is not evil, Merrill is not evil, it's possible for Merrill to give up helping the Dalish and help the city elfs or stay with Hawke. The demon is dead, the mirror is gone or destroyed and Merrill has learned her lesson.

[Marcy3655]

if this topic has already been run into the ground I apologize, I don't get much time to spend on the forums here...

you guys probably know more about the story than I do, but when I finished the first playthrough even though I had romanced her, slept with her, invited her to move in (which she did..), etc., when I went back to the mansion she was gone... out of curiosity I went outside and then back in again and she was back inside the mansion again.... lol

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[Sarielle]

No, she seemed to be one of the more well-adjusted characters to me.

[Marcy3655]

Sarielle wrote...

No, she seemed to be one of the more well-adjusted characters to me.

I agree, but there were just so many references to demons, blood magic, etc., that it is concerning, although I'm not opposed to playing an evil character..   but it's hard to say how that might change things in DA3...  

however, if it's anything like previous sequels, it probably won't make any difference since romances seem not to carry over with the next game anyway...

M

[DPSSOC]

I'm not worried, unless some greater power (demon, mage, Flemmeth) manipulates her I don't see her going evil out of the blue or even going grief crazy evil. If she does go evil though I'm still not worried; Merrill's a good person at heart and could probably be brought back to the light side as it were fairly easily. Failing that she honestly doesn't strike me as intelligent enough (sorry to Merrill fans) to be an effective or dangerous villain.

So yeah no worries all around.

[jlb524]

No.

Regardless, I think Dragon Age does a good job of blurring the lines between good/evil when it comes to characters (I don't even want to call Flemeth 'evil' yet).

With Merrill, she used methods that some in the DAverse would consider 'evil' but her ultimate goal was unselfish/self-sacrificing which are typically considered 'good' things.

Marcy3655 wrote...

I am creating several new playthroughs without romancing her just in case she does turn out to be evil in the
next installment of DA...       ../../../images/forum/emoticons/unsure.png

M

Aw, who doesn't want to date an evil character though...they're so fun!

Modifié par jlb524, 13 juin 2011 - 02:33 .

[Sajuro]

the only one we have to be worried about is
EVIL MERRILL!

Modifié par Sajuro, 13 juin 2011 - 02:29 .

[Sarielle]

Marcy3655 wrote...

Sarielle wrote...

No, she seemed to be one of the more well-adjusted characters to me.

I agree, but there were just so many references to demons, blood magic, etc., that it is concerning, although I'm not opposed to playing an evil character..   but it's hard to say how that might change things in DA3...  

however, if it's anything like previous sequels, it probably won't make any difference since romances seem not to carry over with the next game anyway...

M

Blood magic doesn't bother me at all. It's just a tool. The demon thing...well, let's just say she learns her lesson if she pursues that line of...stuff.

Modifié par Sarielle, 13 juin 2011 - 02:31 .

[Mr.House]

The GW and the Chantry use blood magic, just putting that out there.

[Sarielle]

Well, and I'd argue stuff going bad along the demon line isn't even Merrill's bad, it's someone else's stupidity, but that doesn't seem to be a popular opinion.

[TEWR]

If she does turn evil, Bioware will have succeeded in having drawn my ire from the very depths of Hades.


I'll be pissed. And incredibly sad. But mostly pissed.

[TJPags]

Nobosy can see Merrill snapping a bit? Going off the deep end?

Her Keeper - from Merrill's POV - betrays her. Her clan, which had already ostricized her, tries to kill her over something the Keeper actually did. Hawke could use her to assist in Anulling the Circle. Then Hawke potentially just vanishes on her.

I could see her snapping. I didn't view her as the most emotionally stable person before all that.

[jlb524]

TJPags wrote...

Nobosy can see Merrill snapping a bit? Going off the deep end?

Her Keeper - from Merrill's POV - betrays her. Her clan, which had already ostricized her, tries to kill her over something the Keeper actually did. Hawke could use her to assist in Anulling the Circle. Then Hawke potentially just vanishes on her.

I could see her snapping. I didn't view her as the most emotionally stable person before all that.

Nah, she seems to put others before herself...I can't really see her harming others just because life sucks.  She had possibly formed other friendships besides Hawke (Isabela/Varric) as well, so isn't necessarily alone....though, she's okay with alone.

Hanz54321 wrote...
Naw. I think her story played itself out. I think it was "as told" and there's nothing more to it. Request Denied is correct.

Yeah, given her lack of plot armor, I don't expect to see her again in another DA game, especially as an antagonist... so you can believe whatever you want about what has happened to her, I suppose.

Modifié par jlb524, 13 juin 2011 - 02:48 .

[TEWR]

TJPags wrote...

Nobosy can see Merrill snapping a bit? Going off the deep end?

Her Keeper - from Merrill's POV - betrays her. Her clan, which had already ostricized her, tries to kill her over something the Keeper actually did. Hawke could use her to assist in Anulling the Circle. Then Hawke potentially just vanishes on her.

I could see her snapping. I didn't view her as the most emotionally stable person before all that.

I can see her snapping and being pissed off at the Dalish. I can see her having maybe a darker outlook on things (but still maintaining her cute factor and her sense of humor that she develops).


Snapping and being evil are two different things. I do not want to kill her, for many reasons. Her being evil does not fit in with her character.

[TEWR]

Hanz54321 wrote...

In response to original post:

Naw. I think her story played itself out. I think it was "as told" and there's nothing more to it. Request Denied is correct.

Merrill would have become an abomination had Marethari not headed it off. But she did, demon was slain, tribe was wiped out, lesson learned.

No she wouldn't. The demon was trapped for centuries in a statue and was torn entirely from the Fade (like Justice). And we know the Eluvian links to a place beyond Thedas and beyond the Fade, as Morrigan told us. Marethari was stating her opinion on the Eluvian, something she never researched, as fact.

Merrill would've been fine. I think the demon played Marethari and wanted her all along.

[Mr.House]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Hanz54321 wrote...

In response to original post:

Naw. I think her story played itself out. I think it was "as told" and there's nothing more to it. Request Denied is correct.

Merrill would have become an abomination had Marethari not headed it off. But she did, demon was slain, tribe was wiped out, lesson learned.

No she wouldn't. The demon was trapped for centuries in a statue and was torn entirely from the Fade (like Justice). And we know the Eluvian links to a place beyond Thedas and beyond the Fade, as Morrigan told us. Marethari was stating her opinion on the Eluvian, something she never researched, as fact.

Merrill would've been fine. I think the demon played Marethari and wanted her all along.

The demon would not have attacked Hawke and Merrill if it never planed to posses Merrill, just saying

[TJPags]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Hanz54321 wrote...

In response to original post:

Naw. I think her story played itself out. I think it was "as told" and there's nothing more to it. Request Denied is correct.

Merrill would have become an abomination had Marethari not headed it off. But she did, demon was slain, tribe was wiped out, lesson learned.

No she wouldn't. The demon was trapped for centuries in a statue and was torn entirely from the Fade (like Justice). And we know the Eluvian links to a place beyond Thedas and beyond the Fade, as Morrigan told us. Marethari was stating her opinion on the Eluvian, something she never researched, as fact.

Merrill would've been fine. I think the demon played Marethari and wanted her all along.

Really?  You think the demon would have been fine with not possessing Merrill if Marethuri never came along?