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Rifneno wrote...

dragonflight288 wrote...

*sigh* In Night Terrors, EVERY one of your companions betray except Anders and Justice. You can't judge Merrill for that one. You have to condemn Aveline, Isabella, Fenris, and Varic just as much.

Except none of them constantly profess that they know how to deal with demons and that they're safe.

Oh yes, everyone was warning her about the mirror which had been corrupted by darkspawn....and it was that corruption that killed two hunters (potentially), not the mirror itself. And since she has it with her for over a decade without becoming corrupted, that is proof that the danger has passed. The elves in the ruins in Witch Hunt were corrupted ghouls, so we know those shards were still corrupted, thus we prove that the mirror wasn't as dangerous as everyone was claiming. 

Even if those eluvians are repaired and make a long range communication device, that benefits her people across all of Thedas. If every clan had one, they could keep in touch much faster and easier. Should one clan find any artifacts from Arlathan and the Dales, they can inform the others.

The first part requires metagaming knowledge, and if we're using that you also know that the eluvian is far more than a communication device, it's a portal to an unknown realm (as opposed to the Fade).  Those teleportation mirrors are one of the three big mysteries about the elves.  The others being "what happened to Arlathan?" and "why did the elves lose their immortality?"  If the mirrors are connected to either of those mysteries, she could be unleashing something more terrible than the First Blight.  Sorry, I don't really think cool video phones is worth that kind of risk.

LobselVith8 wrote...

Merrill wanted to help her people, which is no different than The Warden wanting to help his people when he ventured into the Frostback Mountains to head to Haven for a mythical Urn of Sacred Ashes that were said to be a legend. Merrill is using lore she gathered and information she extrapolated from the shard, so she's the most informed about the Eluvian throughout the storyline.

The Warden had no other options for saving Eamon, a critical ally without whom Ferelden would be lost to the Blight. Merrill is in no dire situation with no specific goal beyond retro webcams.

Which can't be blamed on the phylacteries but their mentality.

Okay, you're right on that one. I don't even actually think blood magic is inherently evil myself, though I think dealing with demons is both evil and stupid. I just wanted to take a jab at the Chantry.

Merrill is the only one who actually studied about the Eluvian. Marethari apparently didn't, and Hawke knows nothing about elven lore. I put more stock in Merrill's proactive nature and her attempt to help the People with the restoration of technology that was important to the kingdom of Arlathan than Hawke's reactive "I'll wear silk robes in front of the fireplace and wait for someone to order me to do something" mentality.

We don't know what Marethari knows. She may well have known more than we do about it (not that that's much). Either way, I don't think Merrill studied it beyond asking one of her demon friends. How could she? If knowledge of the eluvians is so obscure, where's one elf with no standing or support getting some critical information on it?

Hardly mad. I'd put her intellect in regards to magic well above Hawke's, as even mage Hawke can't tell whether the templar is possessed or what type of Abomination the Profane has become.

Just because Hawke doesn't specifically say "hunger" (which Anders does, BTW) doesn't mean Hawke doesn't know. It doesn't really matter what type of abomination it is, just that it is an abomination. And her having some "detect demon" spell hardly means she knows more about magic. Hawke gets access to tons of spells she doesn't.

She never says they are safe - the demon she first uses to unlock the barrier she says she has under control - later she says all demons are dangerous and shes sorry Anders didn't understand that with Justice - still later she brings Hawke with her in case she makes a mistake when dealing with the Sundermount one.

Humans can say it is dangerous all they like - thats not the judgement of the Dalish - one of the dutys of a Dalish mage is restore Elven technology - one of the reasons the clans get together every 10 years. There is a funny little fan fiction that makes the point what if the fixed mirror releases all the trapped Elven gods - horrible disaster for the humans but the Dalish would be having a party in celebration. You can argue that Marethrari not liking the idea proves it shouldn't be done - but all you have are two adults that disagree and Merrill is willing to leave the clan to keep it safe. She is also dumb enough to release and be posessed by a demon thats been trapped in a statue for thousands of years.

We do know one thing Marethrari knows. She tells Merrill the taint cannot be removed from the shard- Merrill then procedes to remove the taint. Also DG has stated Merrill recreated the mirror using many sources of knowledge - so yes I don't see how Meratheial knows more since Merrill would have learned all the knowledge of that partcular clan already.

I wont argue the which Mage is smarter one - thats too much a judgement call.

Modifié par sphinxess, 16 juin 2011 - 12:52 .