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MissMaster wrote...
-Also why do FemShep writers feel the need to say that Kaidan was the only one she had ever been with...that is just...unrealistic. Once more she is almost 30 and you really think that is the first time she had ever been with anyone? Come on.

Wow, do you have no concept of loyalty?

God, this world just keeps getting so... disgusting.

Modifié par Dragon XIX, 17 juin 2011 - 05:22 .

[mineralica]

Dragon XIX wrote...

MissMaster wrote...
-Also why do FemShep writers feel the need to say that Kaidan was the only one she had ever been with...that is just...unrealistic. Once more she is almost 30 and you really think that is the first time she had ever been with anyone? Come on.

Wow, do you have no concept of loyalty?

Liberals are hitting that hard, huh?  God, this world just keeps getting so... disgusting.

It's not about ME events, it's about her entire life! And as far as I remember biology, the "first time" for 30 years old woman would likely require surgery:sick: sounds not that romantic...
And maybe I'm really that spoiled, but my concept of loyalty doesn't include "OMG you was with someone else", especially when it might be teenage love or decision to settle down with late understanding it was not that person to settle down with.

Just another two types of stories which leave me surprised at best: 1) Jack suddenly realising Miranda is really nice person and going "Ladies' night" with her and 2) Kaidan/Ashley nearly on their knees begging for forgiveness and saying they weren't in right mind on Horizon (I mean, I know they'd better apologise for harsh words, but if they really don't have brain which caused speech on Horizon was totally not that they're going to say because in real they think Shepard is absolutely right, without any further questions, and have self-esteem that low in addition)

[jeweledleah]

virginity could be handled cheesily, but it could also be believable. I know of several people who didn't have sex until their late 20ties, sometimes circumstances are interesting.

incidentally - having sex for the first time in your 30ties will NOT require surgery any more then in your teens. chances are, you ripped your hymen long time ago anyways, especially when you consider someone as physically active as femshep, not to mention she might have done it herself. you know... during private moments. its not exactly an impenetrable barrier that gets thicker as you age, its just a bit of skin cells. hell, a lot of women don't even bleed their first time, if their partner takes time and care.

imagine this - a woman who enlists as soon as she's able and then is so focused on her training that she simply doesn't find time for relationships. she doesn't feel like going for one night stands just for the same of saying that hey - I had sex - she doesn't want to have a relationship with people in her unit, because fraternization is frowned upon and she travels to much to manage to create long lasting romantic ties. so years pass and here she is - 30, and still technically a virgin. big freaking deal.

now if she "has been asleep all that time and her sexuality has been awakened by this one special man and finally she can feel like a full woman!" yeah...

Modifié par jeweledleah, 16 juin 2011 - 06:10 .

[GuardianAngel470]

Dragon XIX wrote...

MissMaster wrote...
-Also why do FemShep writers feel the need to say that Kaidan was the only one she had ever been with...that is just...unrealistic. Once more she is almost 30 and you really think that is the first time she had ever been with anyone? Come on.

Wow, do you have no concept of loyalty?

Liberals are hitting that hard, huh?  God, this world just keeps getting so... disgusting.

Dude, that was uncalled for and completely inappropriate. You missed the point of the post and then made a politically charged comment in an online forum, breaking this site's rules.

This has nothing to do with loyalty. Shepard was 29 during the events of ME1 and Kaidan and she had, by all perceivable accounts, only recently met. So this isn't a question of loyalty.

Shepard is 29 years old in a stressful profession. It is kinda unrealistic to assume that someone that age who may or may not be religious (as religion is the biggest reason I can see for a person 29 years old to be a virgin) hasn't had sex with someone.

That's all that MissMaster is saying.

[Sialater]

jeweledleah wrote...

virginity could be handled cheesily, but it could also be believable. I know of several people who didn't have sex until their late 20ties, sometimes circumstances are interesting.

incidentally - having sex for the first time in your 30ties will NOT require surgery any more then in your teens. chances are, you ripped your hymen long time ago anyways, especially when you consider someone as physically active as femshep, not to mention she might have done it herself. you know... during private moments. its not exactly an impenetrable barrier that gets thicker as you age, its just a bit of skin cells. hell, a lot of women don't even bleed their first time, if their partner takes time and care.

imagine this - a woman who enlists as soon as she's able and then is so focused on her training that she simply doesn't find time for relationships. she doesn't feel like going for one night stands just for the same of saying that hey - I had sex - she doesn't want to have a relationship with people in her unit, because fraternization is frowned upon and she travels to much to manage to create long lasting romantic ties. so years pass and here she is - 30, and still technically a virgin. big freaking deal.

now if she "has been asleep all that time and her sexuality has been awakened by this one special man and finally she can feel like a full woman!" yeah...

Seconding all of the above.

[MissMaster]

Dragon XIX wrote...


Wow, do you have no concept of loyalty?

God, this world just keeps getting so... disgusting.

What the f*ck does loyalty have to do with anything? She's 30 saying she has only been with one man is retarted.

[MissMaster]

MissMaster wrote...
-Also why do FemShep writers feel the need
to say that Kaidan was the only one she had ever been with...that is
just...unrealistic. Once more she is almost 30 and you really think that
is the first time she had ever been with anyone? Come on.

Dragon XIX wrote...


Wow, do you have no concept of loyalty?

Liberals are hitting that hard, huh?  God, this world just keeps getting so... disgusting.

GuardianAngel470 wrote...



Dude, that was uncalled for and completely inappropriate. You missed the point of the post and then made a politically charged comment in an online forum, breaking this site's rules.

This has nothing to do with loyalty. Shepard was 29 during the events of ME1 and Kaidan and she had, by all perceivable accounts, only recently met. So this isn't a question of loyalty.

Shepard is 29 years old in a stressful profession. It is kinda unrealistic to assume that someone that age who may or may not be religious (as religion is the biggest reason I can see for a person 29 years old to be a virgin) hasn't had sex with someone.

That's all that MissMaster is saying.

Yes!

My sister is 28 and deeply religious and is still a virgin. She is the only woman I know her age that is still one.

I find it extremely hard to believe that Shep would be a virgin at her age.

Her and Kaidan just met, if she was a virgin I don't see her just giving it up to him.

Modifié par MissMaster, 19 juin 2011 - 07:25 .

[jeweledleah]

MissMaster wrote...

MissMaster wrote...
-Also why do FemShep writers feel the need
to say that Kaidan was the only one she had ever been with...that is
just...unrealistic. Once more she is almost 30 and you really think that
is the first time she had ever been with anyone? Come on.

Dragon XIX wrote...


Wow, do you have no concept of loyalty?

Liberals are hitting that hard, huh?  God, this world just keeps getting so... disgusting.

GuardianAngel470 wrote...



Dude, that was uncalled for and completely inappropriate. You missed the point of the post and then made a politically charged comment in an online forum, breaking this site's rules.

This has nothing to do with loyalty. Shepard was 29 during the events of ME1 and Kaidan and she had, by all perceivable accounts, only recently met. So this isn't a question of loyalty.

Shepard is 29 years old in a stressful profession. It is kinda unrealistic to assume that someone that age who may or may not be religious (as religion is the biggest reason I can see for a person 29 years old to be a virgin) hasn't had sex with someone.

That's all that MissMaster is saying.

Yes!

My sister is 28 and deeply religious and is still a virgin. She is the only woman I know her age that is still one.

I find it extremely hard to believe that Shep would be a virgin at her age.

Her and Kaidan just met, if she was a virgin I don't see her just giving it up to him.

religion is not necessarily the primary reason to be a technical virgin.  ever heard of "too busy to date and don't feel like one night stands"?  Shepard at 29 is highly ranked operative.  Shepard has been pretty damn busy climbing those ranks.  then imagine Shepard as biotic... and how mistrusted biotics still are.. now imagine this biotic trying to date some guy and frekaing him out before they could "do the dead"  its not THAt hard to imagine and it CAN be done well with or without religious subplot to it.

also - ME1 takes course over one year.  I don't think a whole year could possibly be concidered as "just giving it up to him" 

[leggywillow]

A concept's believability is entirely dependent on the author handling it.  Unfortunately, I'd say at least 90% of fanfiction is extremely terrible, so I don't blame you for writing off the idea of a virgin FemShep herself if you've only seen it in the hands of your typical fanfic author.

I have read fanfiction in which FemShep was a virgin until meeting Kaidan, and it was handled in a fairly believable and understandable way.  It's not a RP choice I make for my Shepards, but it can be done in a way that seems mature and worldly.  Don't write off the entire concept as out-of-character.

[MissMaster]

She has not been an operative her whole life. I'm sure there was time for her to date and live before she joined the Alliance. I'm sure the average age for a girl to lose it might be around 17 or so maybe even lower. :\\

Even so Shepard would not throw a hissy fit over one man. Like you said she's busy.

[MissMaster]

leggywillow wrote...

A concept's believability is entirely dependent on the author handling it.  Unfortunately, I'd say at least 90% of fanfiction is extremely terrible, so I don't blame you for writing off the idea of a virgin FemShep herself if you've only seen it in the hands of your typical fanfic author.

I have read fanfiction in which FemShep was a virgin until meeting Kaidan, and it was handled in a fairly believable and understandable way.  It's not a RP choice I make for my Shepards, but it can be done in a way that seems mature and worldly.  Don't write off the entire concept as out-of-character.

True. I agree if it is done in a believable way but most of them are horrible....lol.

[jeweledleah]

they do say that 90% of all fanfiction is horrible, but like leggywillow said, don't dismiss the whole concept. spacer kid I think enlisted at 16, or was it the colonist? I'll need to double check. the only origin I'd have trouble accepting virginity from is earthborn - seeing as Shepard from that origin grew up with no parents and ran with gangs at an early age.

and as for average age for a girl to lose virginity? depends entirely on her environment. inner city kids nowadays start hooking up at 12 or earlier. someone raised to see sex as something you only do with a person you care about (regardless of religious affiliation), might wait until they find the person they care about before going for it - which could happen at 17.. or might not happen until mid 20ties. its all relative.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 19 juin 2011 - 09:12 .

[Mythandariel]

Sialater wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

virginity could be handled cheesily, but it could also be believable. I know of several people who didn't have sex until their late 20ties, sometimes circumstances are interesting.

incidentally - having sex for the first time in your 30ties will NOT require surgery any more then in your teens. chances are, you ripped your hymen long time ago anyways, especially when you consider someone as physically active as femshep, not to mention she might have done it herself. you know... during private moments. its not exactly an impenetrable barrier that gets thicker as you age, its just a bit of skin cells. hell, a lot of women don't even bleed their first time, if their partner takes time and care.

imagine this - a woman who enlists as soon as she's able and then is so focused on her training that she simply doesn't find time for relationships. she doesn't feel like going for one night stands just for the same of saying that hey - I had sex - she doesn't want to have a relationship with people in her unit, because fraternization is frowned upon and she travels to much to manage to create long lasting romantic ties. so years pass and here she is - 30, and still technically a virgin. big freaking deal.

now if she "has been asleep all that time and her sexuality has been awakened by this one special man and finally she can feel like a full woman!" yeah...

Seconding all of the above.

I... ahem. I resemble the above arguement. Minus the military training and what not. Also... I am picky.

[Mythandariel]

I am in the process of MSTing what I think is the greatest travesty of Mass Effect fan fiction. Think of it as the My Immortal of Mass Effect.

Three whole stories, 50+ chapters a piece and it only focuses on Female Shepard and Nihlus. Yes, Nihlus. Apparently this fan-twit thought it would be a great idea to have Nihlus survive, and yet not have the story change one little bit. Other than copious amounts of sentence fragments, Uke Shepard and Ikea Erotica.

I can only do a few chapters at a time. It's that horrible.