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Do you really play Pure Paragon or Pure Renegade?


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ReallyRue

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I have one pure paragon and one pure renegade playthrough.

Other than that, I play renegades with a few paragon choices mixed in (like my main renegade, who hugs Tali when she finds her father, spares Shiala, rewrites the Heretics, disarms Kolyat without killing the hostage, shuts down Project Overlord, keeps Samara).

And I have few paragons with renegade options mixed in (like my main paragon, who uses renegade interrupts to kill Elnora, the mercs in Miranda's mission, the krogan on Mordin's mission, lets Garrus shoot Harkin, destroys the Heretics).

I like characters who are a mix, and it's usually easy to combine the choices believably for me. Like my renegade rewrote the Heretics because the geth would be useful in a Reaper war, and would also hopefully minimise organic casualties. Meanwhile the paragon destroyed the Heretics because geth deserve to be treated like any other sentient being, therefore brainwashing/indoctrination is wrong and should not be used against the Heretics.

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Pure Paragon. I'm happier taking the Paragon route since Renegade Shepard tends to come across as an a-hole or a bit of a douuchebag, I also don't see the point in killing people needlessly or letting my squadmates die if I can keep them alive. Having said that there times when i do feel like picking certain Renegade dialogue choices, I don't because I know that the way the Paragon/Reengade system is works means you more or less have to pick an alinment and stick with it or else you will be penalised during the Miranda/Jack encounter and the Tali/Legion encounter.

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Raizo wrote...

Pure Paragon. I'm happier taking the Paragon route since Renegade Shepard tends to come across as an a-hole or a bit of a douuchebag, I also don't see the point in killing people needlessly or letting my squadmates die if I can keep them alive. Having said that there times when i do feel like picking certain Renegade dialogue choices, I don't because I know that the way the Paragon/Reengade system is works means you more or less have to pick an alinment and stick with it or else you will be penalised during the Miranda/Jack encounter and the Tali/Legion encounter.


When does renegade Shep let his/her squadmates die? As far as I can tell, that's always something outside of morality choices. Unless you're talking about not sending the crew back with an escort during the suicide mission, and therefore getting them all killed.

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Can't do Paragon because of his dialogue but my true "canon" is more Paragon than Renegade, due to him taking risks to try and prepare himself for the Reaper invasion. He's killed the Council, destroyed the cure and spared the Collector Base though.

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Really I just play the way I want to play and wind up a nearly pure Renegade. Darrin Shepard earns very few Paragon points. He finished ME1 with only 22.

Though I will admit Bioware herds me a bit. I had to become a little bit more Renegade than I was because Paragon points can mess up your scars and I love to have the glowing eyes as early as possible.

So initially a few things I did Paragon (such as Chellick and Lt. Charn) I decided to go full Renegade on.

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Dane Seagal

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If the forums are any indication, most people play 'Paragade'. Mostly paragon, peppered with renegade moments. I think there's few who went full on paragon and renegade in their first playthroughs.

I did my first playthroughs of both games Renegon. Bigass jerk to villains, politicians and corporate employees. Nice to squadmates, but driving them to be uncompromising. Not racist.

It's a little difficult to mix in the second due to the way the morality system is set up. I noticed myself having to make choices I didn't want to because otherwise I wouldn't have the charm or intimidation points later on to do interesting things. I think in the first you also have to force some options down the line if you want the special missions that pop up at 80% paragon or renegade. Don't like closed off dialogue options but I still think the morality system is pretty well done.

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Out of the 14ish playthroughs I've done, probably 5 are pure paragon. Most are paragon with a hint of rude badassness.

I've never successfully complete a pure renegade playthrough. I get to Freedom's Progress when the choices are to be a dick to Tali and decide I can't feel like an ass playing this game for 35 hours.

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diskoh wrote...

Out of the 14ish playthroughs I've done, probably 5 are pure paragon. Most are paragon with a hint of rude badassness.

I've never successfully complete a pure renegade playthrough. I get to Freedom's Progress when the choices are to be a dick to Tali and decide I can't feel like an ass playing this game for 35 hours.


Heh.. Last part I recognize.

Well sometimes it seems like the choice aren't between "good and evil" but more between overly preachy positivi idiot vs. ... well just generally an ass...

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I have eight Shepards, and while some of them have full Paragon bars and others full Renegade bars, none of them are pure Paragons or Renegades in the sense that I've taken that path in 90% or more of all possible decisions. The reason is that the personalities of my Shepards aren't simplistic enough to believe that one principle should be dominant in every decision.

My main maleShep has come to act according to these loose guidelines:

(1) He doesn't take political bull**** (Renegade)
(2) He is generally supportive and diplomatic to his team and to innocents (Paragon, with exceptions to assert authority when needed)
(3) He thinks merchants are like thieves and treats them accordingly (Renegade).
(4) He doesn't take lives casually (Paragon)
(5) His major decisions tend to be for strategic rather than political benefit (Renegade, with exceptions)
(6) When facing an enemy, take every advantage you can get (Renegade)
(7) If you can create goodwill without losing anything, there's no reason not to do so (Paragon)
(8) He is a mildly pro-human transhumanist (this usually transforms into a Renegade tendency)
(9) He has a soft spot for the underdog (Paragon, most of the time)

These guidelines may come into conflict, which is where decisions become hard. But as I see it, if you make guidelines for your Shepard that go beyond "I want to be Paragon" or "I want to be Renegade", then you will most likely end up with a mixed alignment. This one has ended up Paragade in ME1 and neutral in ME2.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 17 juin 2011 - 10:27 .


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My canon playthrough is pure renegade. The game pretty much forces you to pick one or the other, if you don't you get penalized. Plus being a renegade makes more sense. Shepard is supposed to be a hardcore special forces soldier who'll do whatever it takes to get the job done, that's why he was chosen to be a Spectre. Alot of the paragon choices and dialogue don't fit with this.

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Pure paragon mostly. I would gladly play a mix, but since I'm a min/maxer... it isn't an option.

Modifié par TedRazor, 17 juin 2011 - 09:05 .


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My playthroughs are never purely paragon or renegade. My primary Shepard's morality at the end of ME2 was 100 percent paragon/70 percent renegade. I tend to ignore the choices' moral implications and choose what I think best reflects my Shepard's personality, viewpoints, and previous choices.

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My 'canon' Shepard is a paragon. I sometimes choose the renegade when the situation calls for it though...

1. Help all the innocent civilians i.e. The injured Salarian on Thane’s recruitment mission
2. Uphold the Law “No one is above the law”
3. Never kill in cold blood i.e. The Rachni Queen (Unless the situation calls for it) i.e. Rana Thanoptis/Eclipse Merc on Thane's recruitment mission (throw him out of the window :D)
4. Help those who are injured or in need of help i.e. Save the council who are aboard the destiny ascension.
5. Don’t sacrifice innocent people for the ’greater good’ i.e. Balek and the hostages
6. Always look for an alternate option when confronted with an ‘hostile situation’

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Markinator_123

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Pure Paragon= naive, overly idealistic moron
Pure Renegade= a sociopathic jackass