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[MonkeyLungs]

rolson00 wrote...

they are not altering anyone in the me series shepard is who you want him/her to be, if you imagine your shep as striaght then that what your shepard is, wheras i like my femshep to be gay. all they are doing is adding more choice in it, if you dont agree with it bioware arnt making your maleshep pound jacobs arse are they?

I was just making an observation. It does increase the RP options for making Shepard more your character and that is a good thing overall. However Shepard was never able to rub crewmate p...enis before but now he can. I'm not saying its bad or wrong but it does seem to be an alteration to his character.

Shepard is not entirely YOUR character though. Shepard has always been a little bit yours and a little bit Bioware's.

[rolson00]

Xewaka wrote...

rolson00 wrote...
they are not altering anyone in the me series shepard is who you want him/her to be, if you imagine your shep as striaght then that what your shepard is, wheras i like my femshep to be gay. all they are doing is adding more choice in it, if you dont agree with it bioware arnt making your maleshep pound jacobs arse are they?

Femshep never had a problem to be a lesbian, due to Liara in ME 1 and Kelly in ME 2.
The novelty is there only for Sheploo.

yea i settled for liara i really wanted ash, even more so when i saw how liara turned out in LOTSB!

[bigSarg]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Eh I really don't care either way. I am not doing any guy on guy romances myself but I don't care that they are there as long as my Shepard doesn't start automaticaly flirting with a guy when I initiate dialog.

^this, I don't want every friendship related responce to end up sounding flirty, FShep does this when talking to Jacob and it bothers me.  I want to be able to hold a conversation with a squadmate and not sound like I'm trying to get them into bed, regardless of gender.  I liked the DA:O type responce system, where you could choose to flirt or not and it was clearly marked as to what responce would follow which avenue.


*Edit*  I just wanted to add that I think the romance in ME2 was a bit lame, you talk to someone a couple times and then off to have sex, not very realistic if its suppose to be a LI that spans more than one game, I like the LI mechanics in DA:O, where you had to have mutiple dialogue's with a squadmate before they would have sex with you and you had to build their opinion of you. it wasn't just loyal or not loyal, but varying degrees of it, I really liked that and would like to see it in ME3.

Modifié par bigSarg, 13 juin 2011 - 03:53 .

[FluffyScarf]

I've heard that they're introducing religion into the characters background. And not just the humans. Every bug-eyed alien. You'll be forced to listen to sermons every time you wanted to get to know them better.

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 13 juin 2011 - 03:47 .

[rolson00]

MonkeyLungs wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

they are not altering anyone in the me series shepard is who you want him/her to be, if you imagine your shep as striaght then that what your shepard is, wheras i like my femshep to be gay. all they are doing is adding more choice in it, if you dont agree with it bioware arnt making your maleshep pound jacobs arse are they?

I was just making an observation. It does increase the RP options for making Shepard more your character and that is a good thing overall. However Shepard was never able to rub crewmate p...enis before but now he can. I'm not saying its bad or wrong but it does seem to be an alteration to his character.

Shepard is not entirely YOUR character though. Shepard has always been a little bit yours and a little bit Bioware's.

perhaps Bioware should put ina system that blocks all gay content is the person does not want it in their game that way the peeps who want gay get it and the peeps who dont want gay can blaock it from their game

[HolyMoogle]

rolson00 wrote...

MonkeyLungs wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

they are not altering anyone in the me series shepard is who you want him/her to be, if you imagine your shep as striaght then that what your shepard is, wheras i like my femshep to be gay. all they are doing is adding more choice in it, if you dont agree with it bioware arnt making your maleshep pound jacobs arse are they?

I was just making an observation. It does increase the RP options for making Shepard more your character and that is a good thing overall. However Shepard was never able to rub crewmate p...enis before but now he can. I'm not saying its bad or wrong but it does seem to be an alteration to his character.

Shepard is not entirely YOUR character though. Shepard has always been a little bit yours and a little bit Bioware's.

perhaps Bioware should put ina system that blocks all gay content is the person does not want it in their game that way the peeps who want gay get it and the peeps who dont want gay can blaock it from their game

Gay toggle? Already been discussed and dismissed. Insert [ethnicity/religion] toggle.

[shepskisaac]

MonkeyLungs wrote...
I was just making an observation. It does increase the RP options for making Shepard more your character and that is a good thing overall. However Shepard was never able to rub crewmate p...enis before but now he can. I'm not saying its bad or wrong but it does seem to be an alteration to his character.

Shepard is not entirely YOUR character though. Shepard has always been a little bit yours and a little bit Bioware's.

MaleShep and FemShep are the same Shepard character. If FemShep can be bisexual/lesbian, so can ManShep. Had there been no lesbian romances in the previous games, then we could discuss if they're altering Shepard or not. But that's not the case.

[rolson00]

HolyMoogle wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

MonkeyLungs wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

they are not altering anyone in the me series shepard is who you want him/her to be, if you imagine your shep as striaght then that what your shepard is, wheras i like my femshep to be gay. all they are doing is adding more choice in it, if you dont agree with it bioware arnt making your maleshep pound jacobs arse are they?

I was just making an observation. It does increase the RP options for making Shepard more your character and that is a good thing overall. However Shepard was never able to rub crewmate p...enis before but now he can. I'm not saying its bad or wrong but it does seem to be an alteration to his character.

Shepard is not entirely YOUR character though. Shepard has always been a little bit yours and a little bit Bioware's.

perhaps Bioware should put ina system that blocks all gay content is the person does not want it in their game that way the peeps who want gay get it and the peeps who dont want gay can blaock it from their game

Gay toggle? Already been discussed and dismissed. Insert [ethnicity/religion] toggle.

why not? it cant be done because it might upset some guy in a funny hat?
(and yes i am talking about the pope)

Modifié par rolson00, 13 juin 2011 - 03:56 .

[SalsaDMA]

ipgd wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

Thanks for calling me ignorant just because we disagree on a subject. Could you be more biggotted towards people that have a different viewpoint?

With arguments like that from your side of the fence, you are showing all too well why people usually don't bother trying to discuss things with the biggot parade in these forums...

Just because you have an opinion doesn't make it right or worthy of respect. Some opinions are just dumb. Some people with opinions are just dicks.

The dirty homos will not affect your game in any way unless you actively seek out s/s relationships. Go have a good long cry about it, and then when you feel better play the game and realize it doesn't ****ing matter and you're making a big deal over absolutely nothing.

It takes a special kind of curmudgeon to base your enjoyment of a game around depriving other people of theirs.

And I see the insults just gets worse.

Way to go.

Really showcasing the openmindedness there.

[MonkeyLungs]

A toggle for this kind of stuff to turn it on or off is a bad idea. They should make the characters however they want and just go with it.

[ipgd]

rolson00 wrote...

HolyMoogle wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

MonkeyLungs wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

they are not altering anyone in the me series shepard is who you want him/her to be, if you imagine your shep as striaght then that what your shepard is, wheras i like my femshep to be gay. all they are doing is adding more choice in it, if you dont agree with it bioware arnt making your maleshep pound jacobs arse are they?

I was just making an observation. It does increase the RP options for making Shepard more your character and that is a good thing overall. However Shepard was never able to rub crewmate p...enis before but now he can. I'm not saying its bad or wrong but it does seem to be an alteration to his character.

Shepard is not entirely YOUR character though. Shepard has always been a little bit yours and a little bit Bioware's.

perhaps Bioware should put ina system that blocks all gay content is the person does not want it in their game that way the peeps who want gay get it and the peeps who dont want gay can blaock it from their game

Gay toggle? Already been discussed and dismissed. Insert [ethnicity/religion] toggle.

why not? it cant be done because it might upset some guy in a funny hat?
(and yes i am talking about the pope)

Think about it, guy. What message is Bioware sending when they implement a toggle that removes a minority group from the game for the express purpose of mollifying people prejudiced against them?

[Antivenger]

MonkeyLungs wrote...

I was just making an observation. It does increase the RP options for making Shepard more your character and that is a good thing overall. However Shepard was never able to rub crewmate p...enis before but now he can. I'm not saying its bad or wrong but it does seem to be an alteration to his character.

wat ._.

[MonkeyLungs]

IsaacShep wrote...

MonkeyLungs wrote...
I was just making an observation. It does increase the RP options for making Shepard more your character and that is a good thing overall. However Shepard was never able to rub crewmate p...enis before but now he can. I'm not saying its bad or wrong but it does seem to be an alteration to his character.

Shepard is not entirely YOUR character though. Shepard has always been a little bit yours and a little bit Bioware's.

MaleShep and FemShep are the same Shepard character. If FemShep can be bisexual/lesbian, so can ManShep. Had there been no lesbian romances in the previous games, then we could discuss if they're altering Shepard or not. But that's not the case.

So in your opinion they are just bringing Shepard into line to make him the way he should have been from the start?

[SalsaDMA]

rolson00 wrote...

HolyMoogle wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

MonkeyLungs wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

they are not altering anyone in the me series shepard is who you want him/her to be, if you imagine your shep as striaght then that what your shepard is, wheras i like my femshep to be gay. all they are doing is adding more choice in it, if you dont agree with it bioware arnt making your maleshep pound jacobs arse are they?

I was just making an observation. It does increase the RP options for making Shepard more your character and that is a good thing overall. However Shepard was never able to rub crewmate p...enis before but now he can. I'm not saying its bad or wrong but it does seem to be an alteration to his character.

Shepard is not entirely YOUR character though. Shepard has always been a little bit yours and a little bit Bioware's.

perhaps Bioware should put ina system that blocks all gay content is the person does not want it in their game that way the peeps who want gay get it and the peeps who dont want gay can blaock it from their game

Gay toggle? Already been discussed and dismissed. Insert [ethnicity/religion] toggle.

why not? it cant be done because it might upset some guy in a funny hat?
(and yes i am talking about the pope)

Actually it's the gays that get upset about it. They don't want people to have the option to "not choose" them as being part of their game

[ElitePinecone]

ipgd wrote...
Think about it, guy. What message is Bioware sending when they implement a toggle that removes a minority group from the game for the express purpose of mollifying people prejudiced against them?

Pretty much this.

I don't like particularly like renegade content (war, genocide, torture, needless cruelty). Should I lobby to have it removed or filtered?

No. I don't pick the option and move on. Nobody is forcing me to be renegade, but the option is there. 

Optional options are optional. 

[ipgd]

SalsaDMA wrote...

And I see the insults just gets worse.

Way to go.

Really showcasing the openmindedness there.

"Open minded" does not mean humoring people who are clearly motivated by prejudice and petty discomfort. Tolerance does not extend to tolerating intolerance. If you have opinions founded on fear, hatred or ignorance, sorry, you don't get to play that card.

[Leonia]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Actually it's the gays that get upset about it. They don't want people to have the option to "not choose" them as being part of their game

What about us straight people that support the option?

[SalsaDMA]

ipgd wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

HolyMoogle wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

MonkeyLungs wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

they are not altering anyone in the me series shepard is who you want him/her to be, if you imagine your shep as striaght then that what your shepard is, wheras i like my femshep to be gay. all they are doing is adding more choice in it, if you dont agree with it bioware arnt making your maleshep pound jacobs arse are they?

I was just making an observation. It does increase the RP options for making Shepard more your character and that is a good thing overall. However Shepard was never able to rub crewmate p...enis before but now he can. I'm not saying its bad or wrong but it does seem to be an alteration to his character.

Shepard is not entirely YOUR character though. Shepard has always been a little bit yours and a little bit Bioware's.

perhaps Bioware should put ina system that blocks all gay content is the person does not want it in their game that way the peeps who want gay get it and the peeps who dont want gay can blaock it from their game

Gay toggle? Already been discussed and dismissed. Insert [ethnicity/religion] toggle.

why not? it cant be done because it might upset some guy in a funny hat?
(and yes i am talking about the pope)

Think about it, guy. What message is Bioware sending when they implement a toggle that removes a minority group from the game for the express purpose of mollifying people prejudiced against them?

It's no different a toggle than when you choose what pigmentation your characters skin is during character creation.

Or are you gonna claim that established personal background of a character is different from established personal background?

[Rinji the Bearded]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Actually it's the gays that get upset about it. They don't want people to have the option to "not choose" them as being part of their game

I'm a straight girl, engaged to be married.

I play a gay manshep.

Toggles are for chumps.

[MonkeyLungs]

Antivenger wrote...

MonkeyLungs wrote...

I was just making an observation. It does increase the RP options for making Shepard more your character and that is a good thing overall. However Shepard was never able to rub crewmate p...enis before but now he can. I'm not saying its bad or wrong but it does seem to be an alteration to his character.

wat ._.

Well Male Shep anyway. Female shep could always rub crewmate p...enis and Asari vagina and then Kelly's vagina in ME2.

[rolson00]

ipgd wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

HolyMoogle wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

MonkeyLungs wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

they are not altering anyone in the me series shepard is who you want him/her to be, if you imagine your shep as striaght then that what your shepard is, wheras i like my femshep to be gay. all they are doing is adding more choice in it, if you dont agree with it bioware arnt making your maleshep pound jacobs arse are they?

I was just making an observation. It does increase the RP options for making Shepard more your character and that is a good thing overall. However Shepard was never able to rub crewmate p...enis before but now he can. I'm not saying its bad or wrong but it does seem to be an alteration to his character.

Shepard is not entirely YOUR character though. Shepard has always been a little bit yours and a little bit Bioware's.

perhaps Bioware should put ina system that blocks all gay content is the person does not want it in their game that way the peeps who want gay get it and the peeps who dont want gay can blaock it from their game

Gay toggle? Already been discussed and dismissed. Insert [ethnicity/religion] toggle.

why not? it cant be done because it might upset some guy in a funny hat?
(and yes i am talking about the pope)

Think about it, guy. What message is Bioware sending when they implement a toggle that removes a minority group from the game for the express purpose of mollifying people prejudiced against them?

ah good point

[SalsaDMA]

ipgd wrote...

SalsaDMA wrote...

And I see the insults just gets worse.

Way to go.

Really showcasing the openmindedness there.

"Open minded" does not mean humoring people who are clearly motivated by prejudice and petty discomfort. Tolerance does not extend to tolerating intolerance. If you have opinions founded on fear, hatred or ignorance, sorry, you don't get to play that card.

I find it funny that you make such statements when you are the one showing predjudice and "petty discomfort".

You clearly show that you are intolerant of anything you disagree with, even if you have no clue about what you are actually disagreeing with (as is clear from your twisting of things into being something they aren't.)

Grow up. Really. <_<

[Leonia]

SalsaDMA wrote...

It's no different a toggle than when you choose what pigmentation your characters skin is during character creation.

Or are you gonna claim that established personal background of a character is different from established personal background?

It certainly is different. If you include the gay/straight/bi option you gotta start including everything else. Favourite colour, religious preference, political leaning, favourite sports team.. when does it stop?

And when role-playing most people DO have a different character background from the person they are in real-life, that is sort of the point of role-playing for many. I'm a straight, married woman who has enjoyed playing a lesbian LadyHawke and looks forward to playing a gay ManShep some day.

Modifié par leonia42, 13 juin 2011 - 04:06 .

[ipgd]

SalsaDMA wrote...

It's no different a toggle than when you choose what pigmentation your characters skin is during character creation.

No, it isn't. That would be like choosing whether or not Shepard is gay, which you can already do.

A gay toggle for party members would be like choosing whether or not Jacob would be black. Which is disgusting, and hopefully obvious to you as to why someone would be upset about that. I'm sure you think gay people are subhuman and undeserving of basic human respect, but surely even you can understand why someone would be mad at a toggle that removes them from the game for the obvious, transparent purpose of conceding to prejudiced people.

[SennenScale]

SalsaDMA wrote...

Actually it's the gays that get upset about it. They don't want people to have the option to "not choose" them as being part of their game

Straight person here, who supports S/S romances and intends to play them.

Please do not assume that straight people don't support S/S options.