ElitePinecone wrote...
Don't post provocative pictures, please.
Clonedzero: I'm inclined to agree with you. But you're categorising something as "lazy and bad writing" when you haven't even seen it yet. Why not wait and see what Bioware does? Or at the very least give them the benefit of the doubt that whatever they produce will be well written.
leonia42 wrote...
Raiders Fan 223 wrote...
Hopefully never. Its a stupid idea that only a small part of the OVERALL fanbase wants. I know there is a large amount of support for it on the forums, but turning male shep gay would be absolutely idiotic. Hope Bioware doesn't cave
This is why we can't have nice things.
It's been said plenty of times before but I'll say it again: ManShep doesn't have a canon sexuality. It is never stated. It could be argued that FemShep can "declare" her sexuality when she has the option to tell Liara whether she likes women or not but when it comes to ManShep things are certainly not set in stone.
How can you possibly know that only a minority want the OPTION? That's right, an OPTION you can choose to ignore that will not have any impact whatsoever on your straight ManShep.
Tolerance would go a long way towards solving this issue, not burying our heads in the sand and hoping it goes away.
Guest_makalathbonagin_*
Modifié par makalathbonagin, 13 juin 2011 - 12:56 .
leonia42 wrote...
Someone ought to make a banner that says "Optional options are optional". I'd so make room for one, somehow.
Rojahar wrote...
I thought people on these boards liked having lots of choice.
DieHigh2012 wrote...
It's not some conspiracy to keep gay/bi characters out of our BioWare games. I (from a story perspective) simply want characters to be well defined and secure in thier sexuality, reguardless of the whims of Shep. It realy hurt imersion for me in DA2 knowing that guys and gals who acted straight could easly be turned gay/bi by afew flirty words from my Hawke. That is not good story telling, it'e a lazy atempt to make a small portion of the gameing population happy by allowing them to screw anyone they wanted.
If there is to be true advadvancement on the subject to gay sexuality in video games I think Boiware are the ones to acomplish it. But they can't do it if they take the DA2 road, because everyone being Bi is just plain ridiculous. Give us well defind characters with their own motivations and desires. That is good story telling, while the "everyone is bi hook up with who you want" is simply a cheap shortcut.
Modifié par Neria Rose, 13 juin 2011 - 12:59 .
well for an established character to "come out" after knowing shepard for a long time, that would require a fairly heavy storyarch to make it believable. thats not really the type of storyarch taht belongs in a sci-fi epic like mass effect.ElitePinecone wrote...
Don't post provocative pictures, please.
Clonedzero: I'm inclined to agree with you. But you're categorising something as "lazy and bad writing" when you haven't even seen it yet. Why not wait and see what Bioware does? Or at the very least give them the benefit of the doubt that whatever they produce will be well written.
Neria Rose wrote...
DieHigh2012 wrote...
It's not some conspiracy to keep gay/bi characters out of our BioWare games. I (from a story perspective) simply want characters to be well defined and secure in thier sexuality, reguardless of the whims of Shep. It realy hurt imersion for me in DA2 knowing that guys and gals who acted straight could easly be turned gay/bi by afew flirty words from my Hawke. That is not good story telling, it'e a lazy atempt to make a small portion of the gameing population happy by allowing them to screw anyone they wanted.
If there is to be true advadvancement on the subject to gay sexuality in video games I think Boiware are the ones to acomplish it. But they can't do it if they take the DA2 road, because everyone being Bi is just plain ridiculous. Give us well defind characters with their own motivations and desires. That is good story telling, while the "everyone is bi hook up with who you want" is simply a cheap shortcut.
I didn't realize that gay/bi people only acted one way while straight people only behaved in some other way.
Clonedzero wrote...
well for an established character to "come out" after knowing shepard for a long time, that would require a fairly heavy storyarch to make it believable. thats not really the type of storyarch taht belongs in a sci-fi epic like mass effect.ElitePinecone wrote...
Don't post provocative pictures, please.
Clonedzero: I'm inclined to agree with you. But you're categorising something as "lazy and bad writing" when you haven't even seen it yet. Why not wait and see what Bioware does? Or at the very least give them the benefit of the doubt that whatever they produce will be well written.
easier to just have new characters be openly bi.
DA:O probably did it best, where characters actually had their sexuality written into their character. allows for well done romances.
making everyone bi creates generic romances that are word for word the same regardless of gender situations, which is downright lazy.
i know you want kaidan for example to be bi. im not entirely against that. i just really dont like the idea of characters being made bi just so they can be bi and then writing an explaination for that. the character should be bi as part of their character not written in afterwards.
and IF they do make established characters bi, PLEASE make it the humans. garrus and tali romances make no sense as it is already, adding another level of ridiculousness would be horrible.
y dont you grow a pair?ElitePinecone wrote...
Don't post provocative pictures, please.
Clonedzero: I'm inclined to agree with you. But you're categorising something as "lazy and bad writing" when you haven't even seen it yet. Why not wait and see what Bioware does? Or at the very least give them the benefit of the doubt that whatever they produce will be well written.
Modifié par Siven80, 13 juin 2011 - 01:07 .
Neria Rose wrote...
DieHigh2012 wrote...
It's not some conspiracy to keep gay/bi characters out of our BioWare games. I (from a story perspective) simply want characters to be well defined and secure in thier sexuality, reguardless of the whims of Shep. It realy hurt imersion for me in DA2 knowing that guys and gals who acted straight could easly be turned gay/bi by afew flirty words from my Hawke. That is not good story telling, it'e a lazy atempt to make a small portion of the gameing population happy by allowing them to screw anyone they wanted.
If there is to be true advadvancement on the subject to gay sexuality in video games I think Boiware are the ones to acomplish it. But they can't do it if they take the DA2 road, because everyone being Bi is just plain ridiculous. Give us well defind characters with their own motivations and desires. That is good story telling, while the "everyone is bi hook up with who you want" is simply a cheap shortcut.
I didn't realize that gay/bi people only acted one way while straight people only behaved in some other way.
Modifié par DieHigh2012, 13 juin 2011 - 01:07 .
Clonedzero wrote...
why not have a solution where everyone is happy instead of forcing everyone to be bi? thats kinda ridiculous dont you think?
makalathbonagin wrote...
*yawns*
Go on, ppl ... destroy this game!
rolson00 wrote...
DieHigh2012 wrote...
Neria Rose wrote...
DieHigh2012 wrote...
It's not some conspiracy to keep gay/bi characters out of our BioWare games. I (from a story perspective) simply want characters to be well defined and secure in thier sexuality, reguardless of the whims of Shep. It realy hurt imersion for me in DA2 knowing that guys and gals who acted straight could easly be turned gay/bi by afew flirty words from my Hawke. That is not good story telling, it'e a lazy atempt to make a small portion of the gameing population happy by allowing them to screw anyone they wanted.
If there is to be true advadvancement on the subject to gay sexuality in video games I think Boiware are the ones to acomplish it. But they can't do it if they take the DA2 road, because everyone being Bi is just plain ridiculous. Give us well defind characters with their own motivations and desires. That is good story telling, while the "everyone is bi hook up with who you want" is simply a cheap shortcut.
I didn't realize that gay/bi people only acted one way while straight people only behaved in some other way.
Really? so straight men and straight women act exactly the same? Please this argument is used and on the surface it looks like it holds truth, when in fact it's completly lacking in the truth department. The truth is our desires are core to our personality. Yes that includes what type of person we are attracted to....
This post cannot be serious... since what it's essentially saying is that gay men have effeminate personalities.DieHigh2012 wrote...
Neria Rose wrote...
DieHigh2012 wrote...
It's not some conspiracy to keep gay/bi characters out of our BioWare games. I (from a story perspective) simply want characters to be well defined and secure in thier sexuality, reguardless of the whims of Shep. It realy hurt imersion for me in DA2 knowing that guys and gals who acted straight could easly be turned gay/bi by afew flirty words from my Hawke. That is not good story telling, it'e a lazy atempt to make a small portion of the gameing population happy by allowing them to screw anyone they wanted.
If there is to be true advadvancement on the subject to gay sexuality in video games I think Boiware are the ones to acomplish it. But they can't do it if they take the DA2 road, because everyone being Bi is just plain ridiculous. Give us well defind characters with their own motivations and desires. That is good story telling, while the "everyone is bi hook up with who you want" is simply a cheap shortcut.
I didn't realize that gay/bi people only acted one way while straight people only behaved in some other way.
Really? so straight men and straight women act exactly the same? Please this argument is used and on the surface it looks like it holds truth, when in fact it's completly lacking in the truth department. The truth is our desires are core to our personality. Yes that includes what type of person we are attracted to....
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
ElitePinecone wrote...
rolson00 wrote...
People have been banned and topics closed because some bright spark decided to post a picture of two people kissing.
This is Bioware's board with their rules. Not my decision. Don't do it.
Modifié par RinjiRenee, 13 juin 2011 - 01:15 .
fair enough but acting like a mod wont do you ne favorsElitePinecone wrote...
rolson00 wrote...
People have been banned and topics closed because some bright spark decided to post a picture of two people kissing.
This is Bioware's board with their rules. Not my decision. Don't do it.
Neria Rose wrote...
DieHigh2012 wrote...
Neria Rose wrote...
DieHigh2012 wrote...
It's not some conspiracy to keep gay/bi characters out of our BioWare games. I (from a story perspective) simply want characters to be well defined and secure in thier sexuality, reguardless of the whims of Shep. It realy hurt imersion for me in DA2 knowing that guys and gals who acted straight could easly be turned gay/bi by afew flirty words from my Hawke. That is not good story telling, it'e a lazy atempt to make a small portion of the gameing population happy by allowing them to screw anyone they wanted.
If there is to be true advadvancement on the subject to gay sexuality in video games I think Boiware are the ones to acomplish it. But they can't do it if they take the DA2 road, because everyone being Bi is just plain ridiculous. Give us well defind characters with their own motivations and desires. That is good story telling, while the "everyone is bi hook up with who you want" is simply a cheap shortcut.
I didn't realize that gay/bi people only acted one way while straight people only behaved in some other way.
Really? so straight men and straight women act exactly the same? Please this argument is used and on the surface it looks like it holds truth, when in fact it's completly lacking in the truth department. The truth is our desires are core to our personality. Yes that includes what type of person we are attracted to....
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. So.. your previous statement about people 'acting straight'.. you mean, straight men and straight women act differently from each other while gay people all act the same? Or that no gay people 'act' like straight people? How do straight people behave as opposed to gay people, anyway?
Guest_The Big Bad Wolf_*
MACharlie1 wrote...
This post cannot be serious... since what it's essentially saying is that gay men have effeminate personalities.DieHigh2012 wrote...
Neria Rose wrote...
DieHigh2012 wrote...
It's not some conspiracy to keep gay/bi characters out of our BioWare games. I (from a story perspective) simply want characters to be well defined and secure in thier sexuality, reguardless of the whims of Shep. It realy hurt imersion for me in DA2 knowing that guys and gals who acted straight could easly be turned gay/bi by afew flirty words from my Hawke. That is not good story telling, it'e a lazy atempt to make a small portion of the gameing population happy by allowing them to screw anyone they wanted.
If there is to be true advadvancement on the subject to gay sexuality in video games I think Boiware are the ones to acomplish it. But they can't do it if they take the DA2 road, because everyone being Bi is just plain ridiculous. Give us well defind characters with their own motivations and desires. That is good story telling, while the "everyone is bi hook up with who you want" is simply a cheap shortcut.
I didn't realize that gay/bi people only acted one way while straight people only behaved in some other way.
Really? so straight men and straight women act exactly the same? Please this argument is used and on the surface it looks like it holds truth, when in fact it's completly lacking in the truth department. The truth is our desires are core to our personality. Yes that includes what type of person we are attracted to....
Ce sujet est fermé
Retour en haut