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#26
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Next stop Blizzard.Take that WoW!
But in all seriousness, those hackers are doing this for 3 reasonas which 2 are really stupid
1)by hacking theyre websites they show how easily it can be done,which can improve company awareness that we really need put more security and upgrades for our networking system
2)just for fun
3)for money and theres 75% chance for them to get caught

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Ggrrr wrote...

You are all missing the point. These poeple shouldn't ask us for so much personal information. If they store so much info that it could harm us then it is not really the hackers fault. It is a question of time before they start selling it (especially facebook and google). I don't care for some game';s sites, but it is plain stupid people like EA, Sony or other publishers to have my personal information. Why don't they delete it? Why do they need to store it in the first place?
I don't really know what the hackers intend to do but it is stupid to be asked for so much personal info.


That is curious logic. It is not the hackers' fault because these companies store our information? So if a thief broke into my house and waved a gun at my face, I should be angry at the person who sold him the firearm instead of him?

I am all for keeping information accessible and stopping corporate shenanigans, but I draw the line at screwing over innocent bystanders. The average consumer should not have to pay for a company's policies. These hackers are playing god because they believe they are right. They are trying to impose their views on companies and governments through destructive intimidation. This is not far off from terrorism. There is no violence involved, but it is unnecessarily hamfisted and causes collateral damage.

No one should have the right to force their views on others. No one gave these hackers the moral authority to decide what is right and what is wrong. They are taking that right because they think they can.

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It's that darn Nintendo and their new console, the Wii Own U.

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Alpha-Centuri

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Apparently Lulz security did the Nintendo job for fun and aren't targeting Nintendo like Sony. I'm not sure whether this was for the lulz either. Hopefully they move on to hacking each other :/

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Anathemic wrote...

Just changed my Bethesdas forum account's password


What did you change it to?

Modifié par chunkyman, 14 juin 2011 - 12:00 .


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If it wasn't for hackers there won't be any security systems for websites at all, you'll be grateful in the future trust me
sites like facebook do more damage to you than any other hacking bs

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Good thing I don't use facebook.

Your argument is a valid one, but one that wouldn't be needed if it wasn't for the hackers themselves. Its a self-fulfilling prophecy. Its the same as technology getting better and better because one nation develops a new weapon, causing the other nation to develop better defense capabilities. This causes a weapon to trump that, and then defense to beat that, ad infinitum.

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Why do privacy idiots put ALL their info online if they do not want it used. Thats like passing out naked and drunk in a room full of rapists that you know are rapists and crying foul when you wake up pregnant.
The Avatar is my Femdom, Debit cards my spermicide.

Modifié par lobi, 14 juin 2011 - 12:38 .


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To use your analogy, its still the rapists' fault for doing the raping. Society today blames the victim more so than the actual offender. I don't go along with that. If a woman walks in with a low-cut skirt and reveals a ton of cleavage, and gets date-raped, she is the victim.

And with storing information electronically, how else do you put a system up that holds information that is needed for a multinational corporation. A filing system in a cabinet? One fire, and people will be "Why didn't they back it up electronically! They are idiots!"

Modifié par Alpha-Centuri, 14 juin 2011 - 01:16 .


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@Alpha-Centauri: I agree that she is still a victim, and it in no way excuses the crime of said date-rapists, but there's still something to be said about not tempting fate in the first place. There's a reason why safari operators tell guests to stay in the vehicles and not walk right up to wild animals, for instance.

In any case, these hackers sound to me like they're mainly out for attention as opposed to causing serious harm. I don't condone what they're doing, regardless, but it does serve as a good wake-up call for companies to strengthen their cyber-security.

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Alpha-Centuri wrote...

To use your analogy, its still the rapists' fault for doing the raping. Society today blames the victim more so than the actual offender. I don't go along with that. If a woman walks in with a low-cut skirt and reveals a ton of cleavage, and gets date-raped, she is the victim.

And with storing information electronically, how else do you put a system up that holds information that is needed for a multinational corporation. A filing system in a cabinet? One fire, and people will be "Why didn't they back it up electronically! They are idiots!"

Getting naked and knowingly walking into a rape den then passing out drunk is not going topless or being on a date. So F#$k your indignation.

Debit card.  Stop being drama queens and learn to security finances.
All other info is in the telephone directory or yearbook or what ever anyway.
PS. The irresponsible part was passing out drunk getting pregnant, not the going to get groupsexed.

Modifié par lobi, 14 juin 2011 - 03:22 .


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It would be silly to even think of hackers as a collected group. All they end up being is Virgin Teenage Boys (VTB) with pimple-ridden faces. The most their pathetic goals could achieve was making the world even more paranoid....and that's kinda the opposite direction we wanna go these days now isn't it folks :\\

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Zaxares wrote...

@Alpha-Centauri: I agree that she is still a victim, and it in no way excuses the crime of said date-rapists, but there's still something to be said about not tempting fate in the first place. There's a reason why safari operators tell guests to stay in the vehicles and not walk right up to wild animals, for instance.

In any case, these hackers sound to me like they're mainly out for attention as opposed to causing serious harm. I don't condone what they're doing, regardless, but it does serve as a good wake-up call for companies to strengthen their cyber-security.


I know you may be trying to be open on the issue but even saying things like that is making an excuse for their crime. Whether you say it isn't or not.

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The point is that the irresponsable attitudes of those that fall prey on the internet are a huge part of the problem. Internet security is the users responsability. Corporations are not your parents or your nanny. Cyber police are not your personal army. Get responsible and stop sweating the small stuff. Next nubs will want their gym photo not to appear in other peoples copy of the year book, meanwhile they are putting nude shots on facebook.
DEBIT CARD google it. Even if they get it they only get a little money not your life savings. Why anyone would use an account online containing more money than is needed for the current transaction is beyond me.

Modifié par lobi, 14 juin 2011 - 03:19 .


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And now the Senate of USA, North Korea hackers are too successful!

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Ggrrr wrote...

You are all missing the point. These poeple shouldn't ask us for so much personal information. If they store so much info that it could harm us then it is not really the hackers fault. It is a question of time before they start selling it (especially facebook and google). I don't care for some game';s sites, but it is plain stupid people like EA, Sony or other publishers to have my personal information. Why don't they delete it? Why do they need to store it in the first place?
I don't really know what the hackers intend to do but it is stupid to be asked for so much personal info.


Do you like the idea of making an account every time you want to use their online service?  Cause the alternative.  IF they delete your account information how are they supposed to know its you?  Should they just make it open to anyone who puts a name out and ladeeda?
Its the companies fault they got hacked?  Thats nice logic there.

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Uh its lulzsec not anonymous. They are behind the psn.

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I don't get the "they're helping improve internet security" argument. It's like killing a baby and saying "oh but we're doing it to prove that babys aren't tough enough and that people should be more careful/paranoid". If they care so much about internet security why don't they just do security freeware instead ? Plus someone who wants to destroy something will always be able to, the problem lies not with there being a possibility to hack something, it lies with there being people willing to do it ! Yeah, sure, I can tear off a book in a second, does this mean all books should be made of stone ? This kind of attitude makes me sigh.

Modifié par nijnij, 14 juin 2011 - 01:57 .


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KenKenpachi wrote...

Pft 4 Chan *shakes fist"*


It's not 4chan. It's lulzsec. Also 4chan isn't Anonymous.

Modifié par Slidell505, 14 juin 2011 - 02:11 .


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Don't worry, I'm sure those children will be in prison soon along with big angry men as their friends in the showers.

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So, Eve online's website and Escapist just got hacked.

Is the BioWare website prepared for this?

Modifié par k177sh0t, 14 juin 2011 - 05:34 .


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nijnij wrote...

I don't get the "they're helping improve internet security" argument. It's like killing a baby and saying "oh but we're doing it to prove that babys aren't tough enough and that people should be more careful/paranoid". If they care so much about internet security why don't they just do security freeware instead ? Plus someone who wants to destroy something will always be able to, the problem lies not with there being a possibility to hack something, it lies with there being people willing to do it ! Yeah, sure, I can tear off a book in a second, does this mean all books should be made of stone ? This kind of attitude makes me sigh.


captain obvious to the rescue, nobody targets consumer information with the aim of "improving security"

otherwise facebook would be the internet equivalent of the death star

the whole point of targeting consumer information is sending a message to consumers not to do business with X website or X company, or across the board in this case, instead of just targeting the company itself which often doesn't go anywhere

Modifié par 88mphSlayer, 14 juin 2011 - 09:10 .


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And now Minecraft and Escapist

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Well the Escapist is one website that deserved it, but everything else only goes to show the true nature of these jobless individuals. The faster these punks are behind bars, the better.

There are worse cyber-security threats out there than these jokers. In fact their little rampage probably provides a convenient opening for hackers looking to steal information related to national security. The Chicoms and Norks are undoubtedly trying to take advantage of this.

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Why don't they do some good and hack kiddie porn sites or terrorist groups (since they are so sure they won't be caught). I guess its for the lulz indeed. If thats the case, then people need to quit making their motives altruistic in scope, and just call it like it is.