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Far worse than the actual hacking is the sheer pretentiousness of the hackers themselves who act like they're fighting the civil rights movement of the 21st century.

The hackers behind this attack, the attack on Sony, Anonymous, Geohotz and all those other arrogant pricks are only doing this so they can continue to pirate games, cheat online, and steal people's personal information.
Their obfuscation of this by pretending to hide behind some noble agenda of sticking it to the man is complete and utter horse crap.

If I'm going to rob someone, I'm not going to lie and say it was about something else other than the money and neither should any of these hacker schmucks cowering behind their keyboards.

Modifié par Turnip Root, 15 juin 2011 - 02:29 .


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I kind of see where they are coming from. They are just showing how easy it is to steal people's personal info. I mean it seems kind of small, but why are companies like Bethesda keeping credit card info. This isn't like WoW where you're getting charged every month. Personally, I think these companies should be deleting that kind of personal data within a month of it's use. I mean if these people are able to hack their info so easily, then who's to say someone else couldn't hack it and actually steal money from people's bank accounts? I mean has this hacking group even stolen any money from the accounts it's hacked?

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The Internet is no longer safe! The last conquest is of EA, Facebook and Twitter ... run for your lives :P

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The CIA now? wow lol

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Shirosaki17 wrote...

I kind of see where they are coming from. They are just showing how easy it is to steal people's personal info. I mean it seems kind of small, but why are companies like Bethesda keeping credit card info. This isn't like WoW where you're getting charged every month. Personally, I think these companies should be deleting that kind of personal data within a month of it's use. I mean if these people are able to hack their info so easily, then who's to say someone else couldn't hack it and actually steal money from people's bank accounts? I mean has this hacking group even stolen any money from the accounts it's hacked?



Yes, and crime is crime, period. If I break into your house its to steal your ****, not to say look you have horrible locks here. Also some of the hit sites have information for accounts to allow for faster transactions. Or for Renewal services, there are various and valid reassons to keep the information for some of those hit. Also another reason its not erased within a month, is fraud usage, most watch dog programs minus the expensive ones can take several weeks to notice a false transaction, nevermind to gain a refund. Also the trail is kept for means of prosacution and in a manner to help with the eventuality of criminal charges, such as if someone built a bomb yet you had shacky proof, you could look at bank account records and confimr with the other source that such and such was bought. 

And as of late its not to make a point its for the "lulz" government sites and networks have been hit, large multibilion dollar orginizations as well, hell EVE keep's getting hit and knocked off line. They are criminals and finally are being seen as a real and viable threat, after years of being slapped on the wrist and cuddled while eating hot pockets and causing hardships and millions of dollars in damage to the global economy if not billions. 

And now that they are messing with bigger dogs, and in fact one group has been calling and taunting the FBI you can be sure a swift and just response will fall on them. And in the case of those in your more tolertarian nations, I would leave now or burn your computer. In fact these attempts to "Improve" security and to "free" the net may lend us up with more regulation if not a limited ban, and if this was about helping people, how about this, send a nameless file with the details on how you snuck in or broke it so they know what to fix?  

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KenKenpachi wrote...

Shirosaki17 wrote...

I kind of see where they are coming from. They are just showing how easy it is to steal people's personal info. I mean it seems kind of small, but why are companies like Bethesda keeping credit card info. This isn't like WoW where you're getting charged every month. Personally, I think these companies should be deleting that kind of personal data within a month of it's use. I mean if these people are able to hack their info so easily, then who's to say someone else couldn't hack it and actually steal money from people's bank accounts? I mean has this hacking group even stolen any money from the accounts it's hacked?



Yes, and crime is crime, period. If I break into your house its to steal your ****, not to say look you have horrible locks here. Also some of the hit sites have information for accounts to allow for faster transactions. Or for Renewal services, there are various and valid reassons to keep the information for some of those hit. Also another reason its not erased within a month, is fraud usage, most watch dog programs minus the expensive ones can take several weeks to notice a false transaction, nevermind to gain a refund. Also the trail is kept for means of prosacution and in a manner to help with the eventuality of criminal charges, such as if someone built a bomb yet you had shacky proof, you could look at bank account records and confimr with the other source that such and such was bought. 

And as of late its not to make a point its for the "lulz" government sites and networks have been hit, large multibilion dollar orginizations as well, hell EVE keep's getting hit and knocked off line. They are criminals and finally are being seen as a real and viable threat, after years of being slapped on the wrist and cuddled while eating hot pockets and causing hardships and millions of dollars in damage to the global economy if not billions. 

And now that they are messing with bigger dogs, and in fact one group has been calling and taunting the FBI you can be sure a swift and just response will fall on them. And in the case of those in your more tolertarian nations, I would leave now or burn your computer. In fact these attempts to "Improve" security and to "free" the net may lend us up with more regulation if not a limited ban, and if this was about helping people, how about this, send a nameless file with the details on how you snuck in or broke it so they know what to fix?  


I would Tear the hackers apart, torture them into insanity, and make a public and painful example of them. Death would seem most appropriate.

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I told you?

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Well.. now Bioware itself got hacked too.. at least the old NWN Forums.. i wonder why i don´t read anything about this here?

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Nekator wrote...

Well.. now Bioware itself got hacked too.. at least the old NWN Forums.. i wonder why i don´t read anything about this here?

As a below average BSN member, I didn't know! =]
Put the link please. :ph34r:

Modifié par Garbage Master, 16 juin 2011 - 12:45 .


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Garbage Master wrote...

Nekator wrote...

Well.. now Bioware itself got hacked too.. at least the old NWN Forums.. i wonder why i don´t read anything about this here?

As a below average BSN member, I didn't know! =]
Put the link please. :ph34r:


http://social.biowar...6/index/7653193

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In the meantime i found the topic in the BioForums too.. well hidden ^^

Modifié par Nekator, 16 juin 2011 - 12:53 .


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a hacker group on twitter place an add for people to call a certain phone number and leave a message of what they wanted hacked.i saw reports on a nerd show last night apperently some people called to have BSN,Epic and something else to get/be hacked.

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In other news

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what's the latest update on the situation?

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Turnip Root wrote...

Far worse than the actual hacking is the sheer pretentiousness of the hackers themselves who act like they're fighting the civil rights movement of the 21st century.

The hackers behind this attack, the attack on Sony, Anonymous, Geohotz and all those other arrogant pricks are only doing this so they can continue to pirate games, cheat online, and steal people's personal information.
Their obfuscation of this by pretending to hide behind some noble agenda of sticking it to the man is complete and utter horse crap.

If I'm going to rob someone, I'm not going to lie and say it was about something else other than the money and neither should any of these hacker schmucks cowering behind their keyboards.


they're also not as good as the interwebs makes them out to be, they struck gold with the sony hack but have yet to repeat that success with anybody not-sony due to well... sony having below average security

and yes, they're pretentious, lord knows 70% of the internet is pretentious so they fit right in (they should hack destructoid next)

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Blood-Lord Thanatos wrote...

KenKenpachi wrote...

Shirosaki17 wrote...

I kind of see where they are coming from. They are just showing how easy it is to steal people's personal info. I mean it seems kind of small, but why are companies like Bethesda keeping credit card info. This isn't like WoW where you're getting charged every month. Personally, I think these companies should be deleting that kind of personal data within a month of it's use. I mean if these people are able to hack their info so easily, then who's to say someone else couldn't hack it and actually steal money from people's bank accounts? I mean has this hacking group even stolen any money from the accounts it's hacked?



Yes, and crime is crime, period. If I break into your house its to steal your ****, not to say look you have horrible locks here. Also some of the hit sites have information for accounts to allow for faster transactions. Or for Renewal services, there are various and valid reassons to keep the information for some of those hit. Also another reason its not erased within a month, is fraud usage, most watch dog programs minus the expensive ones can take several weeks to notice a false transaction, nevermind to gain a refund. Also the trail is kept for means of prosacution and in a manner to help with the eventuality of criminal charges, such as if someone built a bomb yet you had shacky proof, you could look at bank account records and confimr with the other source that such and such was bought. 

And as of late its not to make a point its for the "lulz" government sites and networks have been hit, large multibilion dollar orginizations as well, hell EVE keep's getting hit and knocked off line. They are criminals and finally are being seen as a real and viable threat, after years of being slapped on the wrist and cuddled while eating hot pockets and causing hardships and millions of dollars in damage to the global economy if not billions. 

And now that they are messing with bigger dogs, and in fact one group has been calling and taunting the FBI you can be sure a swift and just response will fall on them. And in the case of those in your more tolertarian nations, I would leave now or burn your computer. In fact these attempts to "Improve" security and to "free" the net may lend us up with more regulation if not a limited ban, and if this was about helping people, how about this, send a nameless file with the details on how you snuck in or broke it so they know what to fix?  


I would Tear the hackers apart, torture them into insanity, and make a public and painful example of them. Death would seem most appropriate.


Me too.  In fact let me tell you that when I was at Gamestop's late night release for Duke Nukem Forever I had a conversation with one of the customers who was defending Lulzsec as being a group that fights for freedom of information.
After I had picked up my 3 balls of steel editions of Duke Nukem Forever for all three platforms as well as Alice:Madness Returns I waited outside for him.  When he came out I followed him to his car and showed him that freedom isn't free and proceeded to loosen his teeth a bit with my fists and body slammed him into the pavement knocking the wind out of him so he couldn't scream.
I didn't want to cause too much damage so I just spit on his face and told him "not so tough when you're not in front of the computer are you?  LULZ!"

Even though he's not part of Lulzsec it was satisfying to punish one of their sympathizers.

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Your ability to weave how awesome you are into every conversation/topic never ceases to amuse me Busomjack.

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Khayness wrote...

Your ability to weave how awesome you are into every conversation/topic never ceases to amuse me Busomjack.


Yeah, I took his Balls of Steel edition of Duke for the PS3 as well that I'm keeping sealed for Collector's purposes.  So now I've got 4 copies of the game.

He was bragging about how he downloads PS3 games onto his external hard drive so I figured he should know what it's like to have something of yours stolen before he does it again.

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why do you need so many copies anyway?

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why do you need so many copies anyway?


Because it's Duke Nukem Forever which is a legendary game and I'm a game collector.  I must own every version of this game which I for so long held as mythical.

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Pepper4 wrote...

Apparently, hackers don't like gaming sites.
I hope Bioware is not up next...

just spreading my fears here...


First Sony PSN, then Codemasters, Bethesda, Bioware and now SEGA!

Who wins with those attacks? There has be to be people who know....

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-sigh- add to the list Sega Pass, the CIA's main page, and the US senate's Website.

Funny no major ****ing I guess if its not the Chinese doing it then its A-okay.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 18 juin 2011 - 06:44 .


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any more news on this crisis?

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Better be careful what you say guys. The hackers may come after you next!

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This seems to be more active then the other thread I posted in so I'll move my comments here

Celrath wrote...

Okay well here is my take on the matter. The original attack on Sony was Anonymous, I believe they admitted to to that. I also believe the secondary attack involved a lot of the same members of Anonymous involved in the first attack who saw an opportunity during the first attack and took it. At this point I believe the were acting as Anonymous hence leaving the Calling card. I also think that since then that particular group has splintered off from Anonymous and become the entity now known as LulzSecurity.

That the problems with groups like that, they may have orginaly intented to do good but since then they have become nothing more then cyber terrorists. Anonymous itself said it stands for free speech and on that platform attack a kids website that wanted a place where he could talk without cuss words. Him making that site is the very definition of free speech. These people(LulzSecurity, Anonymous and any other similar groups) are not the activist they like to think of themselves as. Both groups are drive by Young Egomaniacs and adult who have yet to learn how the world works.

If LulzSecurity truly was just in it to make the internet more secure they would be posting innocent peoples private information on the internet. If Anonymous truly stood for Free speech they would attack groups that disagreed with them. Groups like these are just the next generation of terrorist we have to deal with. Truthfully groups like these will just result in everything becoming more and more locked down. How can we have a truly free and open internet when groups like this exist and would take advantage of it any chance they get.


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Someone connected to Lulz Security was arrested. It turns out he was a teenager living with his mother. Lulz Security claims it was just a guy running their IRC room

C-Net also confirms my early suspicions that Lulz Security was an off shoot of Anonymous.