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#28251
Robhuzz

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DevilBeast wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/11021386/1

So it seems to be official. Bioware will release additonal content to "clarify and provide context".

Basicly Bioware will provide new information to gap out the plot holes, but the ending will still be the same. Galactic civilization is still screwed, Shepard is still dead or stuck on Earth, and worst of all. Liara and the Normandy crew is stuck on the planet with no hope of escaping.

Not sure if this feels like a victory or defeat for me.


Well, at least it´s better than nothing. And many people have just demanded more closure soo... But yeah, we´ll just have to see. Oh, and it´s free. Not bad BW not bad..


I can't agree, I think it's worse knowing BioWare is so far gone that they thought this ending to the series was actually good. I preferred when I thought BioWare did this on purpose... but this... this just shows BioWare can't write game endings any more. They've managed to ruin an entire 100+ hours series in just 10 minutes... It's astonishing. Further it shows they're a bunch of liars considering all they've said about the ending was the complete opposite of what we got.

Yeah... this is pretty much my worst case scenario come true. Please let this be false.:unsure:

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DevilBeast wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...
This just confirms my suspescion that the VS and Liara will hook up on Gilligan's planet.

You just had to ruin the ending even moreImage IPB


Also. How does this ruin the ending for you DevilBeast?

Whats the matter? You don't like the idea of Ashley and Liara lying on the bed in the captain's cabin, laughing over their fortune that they finally managed to get rid of Shepard. All while sharing a box of delicious strawberries before making sweet, sweet love? :devil:


......................Image IPB That..... That actually sounds kinda hotImage IPB

I hope my Shepard isn´t seeing thisImage IPB


This is just "One year later". I forgot to mention all the initial angry sex between Ash and Liara when they first crashed on the planet, them finally getting rid of all that hate that has been brewing between them for the last 3 years.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

hollow22_ wrote...

http://www.xbox360ac...By-BioWare.html


LOOOOK AT THIS GUYS!!!! NEW ENDING CINEMATICS IN A FREE DLC THIS SUMMER


I doubt the ending can be fixed just by that. Singularity nonsense or space magic aren´t going to get any better through clarifications. If it was indeed them alone, Hudson and Walters should never be allowed to write anything ever again.


whatever happens on those cuts we'll see when they've released. IMO it's better they trying to fix their problems that stay with the endings we already know.

My next lines are not for people of BSN or specially for people of Liara thread (Nerevar-as, I quote you since your comment is in the same line as I saw from people on spanish media. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST YOU, so please don't misunderstand me as a rage towards you, okay? thanks:happy::happy:)

Ssometimes I don't understand ME fans and players. They start a rage against BW because of the endings, even doing charity collects, and now we have our "questions answered" (keep suspiccious until I see it with my own eyes) in spanish media ME fans are raging because of this fix/correction whatever we want to call it :?

EDIT: I add some lovely liara for avoiding this post being misunderstanded as a rage towards all people;);)
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Modifié par hollow22_, 05 avril 2012 - 02:09 .


#28254
DevilBeast

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Robhuzz wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/11021386/1

So it seems to be official. Bioware will release additonal content to "clarify and provide context".

Basicly Bioware will provide new information to gap out the plot holes, but the ending will still be the same. Galactic civilization is still screwed, Shepard is still dead or stuck on Earth, and worst of all. Liara and the Normandy crew is stuck on the planet with no hope of escaping.

Not sure if this feels like a victory or defeat for me.


Well, at least it´s better than nothing. And many people have just demanded more closure soo... But yeah, we´ll just have to see. Oh, and it´s free. Not bad BW not bad..


I can't agree, I think it's worse knowing BioWare is so far gone that they thought this ending to the series was actually good. I preferred when I thought BioWare did this on purpose... but this... this just shows BioWare can't write game endings any more. They've managed to ruin an entire 100+ hours series in just 10 minutes... It's astonishing. Further it shows they're a bunch of liars considering all they've said about the ending was the complete opposite of what we got.

Yeah... this is pretty much my worst case scenario come true. Please let this be false.:unsure:


wuav, seems I belong to the few who actually still has some faith in Bioware. Yeah, I hated the endings too when I first encountered them, but that was mostly due to the plotholes and the lack of closure. So, if they at least can give me that then I will be content. Not overjoyes, I can never be that with those endings, but content.

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My problem with this clarification DLC is the fact simply adding cutscenes to show things wont change anything.

Showing a cutscene of Liara and Garrus abandoning my Shepard after he gets hit by Harbinger's beam won't change the fact that Garrus or Liara leaving the field of battle is incredibly OOC. Bonus points if they try to add some BS excuse of them hearing the order to fall back and acknowlegding it.

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Mass Effect is a game, role game, the player live the game, live in the game, you choices change the event or maybe in theory, but this cinemetic content for me not is the way, i not have more reason to play again ME3, also before the Cerberus Base, for watch the last romance scene whit my Female Shepard.

Modifié par FRANCESCO84Inn, 05 avril 2012 - 02:11 .


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DevilBeast

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hollow22_ wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

hollow22_ wrote...

http://www.xbox360ac...By-BioWare.html


LOOOOK AT THIS GUYS!!!! NEW ENDING CINEMATICS IN A FREE DLC THIS SUMMER


I doubt the ending can be fixed just by that. Singularity nonsense or space magic aren´t going to get any better through clarifications. If it was indeed them alone, Hudson and Walters should never be allowed to write anything ever again.


whatever happens on those cuts we'll see when they've released. IMO it's better they trying to fix their problems that stay with the endings we already know.

My next lines are not for people of BSN or specially for people of Liara thread, but sometimes I don't understand ME fans and players. They start a rage against BW because of the endings, even doing charity collects, and now we have our "questions answered" (keep suspiccious until I see it with my own eyes) in spanish media ME fans are raging because of this fix/correction whatever we want to call it :?


I will probably get flamed pretty badly, but I think we fans may have been a bit too whiny and demanding. I mean, we have demanded more closure and clarifications, fair enough I can understand that. But when we are finally being given exactly that (and with no charge even) some people are still raging.
I´m not sure if this extra content will be any better than what we already have, but still; there´s no harm in being optimisticImage IPB

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I don't care for explanations on larger than life things in ME, I want my femShep to have an ending that shows she's better than that and will get what she fought and survived for.

Many lives were sacrificed for exploding Mass Relays, a cast away crew and the Hero under rubles (or dead)? What kind of messed up closure am I getting if ALL I WANTED during those 100+ hours of gameplay was to take Liara home and get my damn medals for saving people's asses?

Modifié par Forsakentale, 05 avril 2012 - 02:13 .


#28259
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Lizardviking wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/11021386/1

So it seems to be official. Bioware will release additonal content to "clarify and provide context".

Basicly Bioware will provide new information to gap out the plot holes, but the ending will still be the same. Galactic civilization is still screwed, Shepard is still dead or stuck on Earth, and worst of all. Liara and the Normandy crew is stuck on the planet with no hope of escaping.

Not sure if this feels like a victory or defeat for me.

TBH I didn't really expect more than this.

Rewriting the ending would have been nothing more than a confession they effed up completely, making them look bad in the business world. And it would be rather costly and therefore hard to justify financially.

It all depends now on what content they choose to include,how it will work exactely and wether it will refference more of our previous choices than what we have. And they will need to be very careful with their writing this time. If they won't nail the right moods and themes this'll end in another ****storm in no time.

Other than that it's still "wait and see" I guess ...


DevilBeast wrote...
I´m not sure if this extra content will be any better than what we already have, but still; there´s no harm in being optimistic../../../images/forum/emoticons/smile.png

Also, this ;)

Modifié par FdL_Ananas, 05 avril 2012 - 02:24 .


#28260
Nerevar-as

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hollow22_ wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

hollow22_ wrote...

http://www.xbox360ac...By-BioWare.html


LOOOOK AT THIS GUYS!!!! NEW ENDING CINEMATICS IN A FREE DLC THIS SUMMER


I doubt the ending can be fixed just by that. Singularity nonsense or space magic aren´t going to get any better through clarifications. If it was indeed them alone, Hudson and Walters should never be allowed to write anything ever again.


whatever happens on those cuts we'll see when they've released. IMO it's better they trying to fix their problems that stay with the endings we already know.

My next lines are not for people of BSN or specially for people of Liara thread (Nerevar-as, I quote you since your comment is in the same line as I saw from people on spanish media. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST YOU, so please don't misunderstand me as a rage towards you, okay? thanks:happy::happy:)

Ssometimes I don't understand ME fans and players. They start a rage against BW because of the endings, even doing charity collects, and now we have our "questions answered" (keep suspiccious until I see it with my own eyes) in spanish media ME fans are raging because of this fix/correction whatever we want to call it :?

EDIT: I add some lovely liara for avoiding this post being misunderstanded as a rage towards all people;);)


Where was that? Funny enough, I´m spanish but didn´t complain in my local media. Talking for myself, I´m just dissapointed they seem to be sticking to their endings despite being such nonsense rather than admitting they screwed up and actually fixing it. However I´m not surprised, reading comic books I´m becoming used to such things.

Sorry for going off-topic.

#28261
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that's what I meant to say DevilBeast, I remember even one guy who entered with official demands towards BW because of the endings...but still now we have what we wanted we're still raging? as I said, and I think you'd agree, let's see what BW are going to made and after seeing them let's judge.

now this is Liara's Thread, so let's stay on topic, and what's better than adding some fun
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Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

Whats worse AIDS or the ending of ME3?


Since I already know someone with HIV I would say AIDS. No videogame ending can be more horrible than a disease which you can never get rid of and most likely bring you an agonising death. And not to mention the negative social stigma associated with being infected with HIV.
Sorry, if I seem rude but the comparison is just not.... Fitting.

Modifié par DevilBeast, 05 avril 2012 - 02:23 .


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Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@Luxure

True.

Ashley and Liara deserve better endings.

But I'm still not sure which has scarred me more the horrible Green Lantern film or the ME3 endings.


As a 20 + year fan of Hal Jordan, I can tell you the film was worse. ME3 had some of the most emotional, dramatic, and exciting moments ever put into a video game.

Green Lantern had a 114 minute runtime. That's about all I can say about that film.

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so no shep with blue babies...boo

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hollow22_ wrote...

that's what I meant to say DevilBeast, I remember even one guy who entered with official demands towards BW because of the endings...but still now we have what we wanted we're still raging? as I said, and I think you'd agree, let's see what BW are going to made and after seeing them let's judge.

now this is Liara's Thread, so let's stay on topic, and what's better than adding some fun
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Yes, it seems we agreeImage IPB

Anyway back on topic: LOLZImage IPB just LOLZImage IPB. I can just imagine Hillis saying that in Liara´s voice Image IPB

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my opinion is that Liara's romance scene is better if you stayed loyal (judging from videos i have seen) Katelynn will still not take her as LI, does not want to ruin their friendship.

anyone have that issue, not minding a romance with Liara but not doing so to preserve friendship?

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Lizardviking wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...
This just confirms my suspescion that the VS and Liara will hook up on Gilligan's planet.

You just had to ruin the ending even moreImage IPB


Also. How does this ruin the ending for you DevilBeast?

Whats the matter? You don't like the idea of Ashley and Liara lying on the bed in the captain's cabin, laughing over their fortune that they finally managed to get rid of Shepard. All while sharing a box of delicious strawberries before making sweet, sweet love? :devil:


......................Image IPB That..... That actually sounds kinda hotImage IPB

I hope my Shepard isn´t seeing thisImage IPB


This is just "One year later". I forgot to mention all the initial angry sex between Ash and Liara when they first crashed on the planet, them finally getting rid of all that hate that has been brewing between them for the last 3 years.


Too... Much.... Smexy... Can´t.... Take... It.. *mind BSOD*

*Reboots*

I wonder how Ashley felt the first time Liara mind ****ed her. I mean, with all her angst and xenophobia..Image IPB

Modifié par DevilBeast, 05 avril 2012 - 02:39 .


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Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

I hear in the next Saw movie his traps are making people play the ME3 endings


Knew they wouldn´t keep that promise *sigh*

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DevilBeast wrote...

hollow22_ wrote...

that's what I meant to say DevilBeast, I remember even one guy who entered with official demands towards BW because of the endings...but still now we have what we wanted we're still raging? as I said, and I think you'd agree, let's see what BW are going to made and after seeing them let's judge.

now this is Liara's Thread, so let's stay on topic, and what's better than adding some fun
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Yes, it seems we agreeImage IPB

Anyway back on topic: LOLZImage IPB just LOLZImage IPB. I can just imagine Hillis saying that in Liara´s voice Image IPB


if you remember well we've listen the "I don't know which is worse, if the Geth or the sand on my... Nevermind" on Virmire on ME1 from Liara so why not getting the "grab my boob" one?? Mrs Ali Hillis is such a tease...:wub::wub:

edit: dammit misunderstanded you, I read "I can't just imagine...." haha whatever, I guess she's capable of that if someone ask her for doing it

Modifié par hollow22_, 05 avril 2012 - 02:42 .


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That extended cut is bullcrap. If it doesn't continue from when Shepard wakes in London between rubble and stuff and then proceeds to actually finish the Reapers with no Normandy on Gilligan Island and no destruction of mass relays ( I don't mind the destruction of the Citadel ) then it's all bullcrap.

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The last moments of Liara and Michael.

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#28272
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Lizardviking wrote...

http://social.biowar...ndex/11021386/1

So it seems to be official. Bioware will release additonal content to "clarify and provide context".

Basicly Bioware will provide new information to gap out the plot holes, but the ending will still be the same. Galactic civilization is still screwed, Shepard is still dead or stuck on Earth, and worst of all. Liara and the Normandy crew is stuck on the planet with no hope of escaping.

Not sure if this feels like a victory or defeat for me.


I'm inclined to agree.  No blue babies is a bad, bad thing.

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Luxure wrote...

That extended cut is bullcrap. If it doesn't continue from when Shepard wakes in London between rubble and stuff and then proceeds to actually finish the Reapers with no Normandy on Gilligan Island and no destruction of mass relays ( I don't mind the destruction of the Citadel ) then it's all bullcrap.


It won't fix things, no.

But so long as it seems like Bioware are trying, I'll give them some credit for that.  And leave my "real" ending to my own imagination.

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I feel I must share this movie. I hope BioWare sees it as well. It shows why clarification isn't going to fix this mess. And the man really explains in a funny way.

Quitely awaiting PAX, there it will be decided whether they're attempting a project lazarus for Mass Effect or whether they'll just bury it.

ETA: Feeling pretty dissapointed and disgusted with BioWare right now. Offset with extreme cuteness.

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Modifié par Robhuzz, 05 avril 2012 - 02:49 .


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FdL_Ananas wrote...

Am I really the only one who liked that twitch?


Nope...I love it.

Forsakentale wrote...
I don't care for explanations on larger than life things in ME, I want my femShep to have an ending that shows she's better than that and will get what she fought and survived for. 


Yeah.

I fear this 'explanation' will just make things worse since I've adopted my own headcanon to fix it. 

Lizardviking wrote...

This just confirms my suspescion that the VS and Liara will hook up on Gilligan's planet.

 

That will be the 'clarification'.  "Liara and Ashley/Kaidan were so upset over Shepard's loss that they found solace in each others arms.  The pair hooked up and had 4 blue babies.  They named one 'Shepard'."

*jlb deletes Extended Cut from PC*

Modifié par jlb524, 05 avril 2012 - 02:54 .