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[CrazyGreggy]

DevilBeast wrote...
 Do people really think Bioware/EA would use those kind of resources just to please the fans??

If they ever want those fans to stump up another penny for one of their products? Damn right I expect it, no, I demand it.

As I said in Deventh's happy ending thread, art doesn't push people away. It doesn't leave people with 8 or 9 save games from ME1/ME2 not even wanting to play the 3rd game a second time.

Blue children or nothing, but if it's nothing, my wallet goes nowhere near BioWare again, and that includes my TOR subscription.

[PMC65]

Kilshrek wrote...

This is something I want to know too. But even if they are rescued, Joker would never forgive Shepard for killing EDI, and I won't blame him. And Shepard won't be able to forgive herself for killing the Geth, right after she saved them all.

screw all that, Bioware's version can go rot in a dark hole in hell. I'm writing my own canon, and my friends don't goddamn die because it's edgier and more artistic. I only got back half an hour ago, so I'm doing the angry bit that you guys did hours before, please forgive me. I may stay angrier for longer though, so... I'll probably just lurk if I start ranting. Erm, someone please just tell me to go away for a bit if I start ranting?

Joker would forgive Shepard if it meant destroying the reapers ... where Joker is going to have emotional issues is when he finds out that his sister died. And if he finds out how she dies will he look at the asari the same way? How would he feel about Liara?

If destroying the geth was part of destroying the reapers then Shepard would have to deal with it. She knew that she couldn't save everyone ... and she would destroy synthetics over organics without hesitation. But please note that this applies only to my RP. 

[TMA LIVE]

jlb524 wrote...

Bruddajakka wrote...
Shepard was always going to die let's face it. You might not like it. But it's true.

She survived in my game, so that's not an issue.

TMA LIVE wrote...
Let's say Joker FTL to a planet instead of going through a Relay, and we know this because of the Extended Cut. A planet that's near our solar system. Then they can get picked up, because they're close enough for the fleets. Salarians, Krogan, Humans, and Asari now have a planet they can farm food off of. And if the Quarians are alive, then there's Live Ships that the Turians can get food from as well. And all species start working to get back home, and repair Relays.

Well it seemed like they were near a relay when it was destroyed...if not why would the Normandy crash? The magic green/red/blue ball of energy didn't destroy anything else just by touching it (except for the Reapers possibly).

If that blast can even destroy Big Ben with the control ending, or changes people and robots despite being in a ship, I'm willing to bet that blast ain't health for ships, not matter what.

I also think Joker was in FTL and not going through a Relay, since Relays are instant.

[9Enrico0]

Chrillze wrote...

9Enrico0 wrote...

look http://social.biowar.../index/11028404
no blue baby for us
and no happy ending
no comment

How do you know that? if they expand on the current shepard survives ending ther ecould be a somewhat happy ending with blue babies 

i hope so.. really... but...
if in the end I will not have   my blue baby.... i say "bye bye" to bioware

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

@Crazy, for ME3 i'm abandoned my subscription 2 months ago,

really i'm not able to image new trim for ME after this ending,

i'm not able to image without all the species create in this trilogy,

and my most big worries is not have Liara.

[Nerevar-as]

PMC65 wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

This is something I want to know too. But even if they are rescued, Joker would never forgive Shepard for killing EDI, and I won't blame him. And Shepard won't be able to forgive herself for killing the Geth, right after she saved them all.

screw all that, Bioware's version can go rot in a dark hole in hell. I'm writing my own canon, and my friends don't goddamn die because it's edgier and more artistic. I only got back half an hour ago, so I'm doing the angry bit that you guys did hours before, please forgive me. I may stay angrier for longer though, so... I'll probably just lurk if I start ranting. Erm, someone please just tell me to go away for a bit if I start ranting?

Joker would forgive Shepard if it meant destroying the reapers ... where Joker is going to have emotional issues is when he finds out that his sister died. And if he finds out how she dies will he look at the asari the same way? How would he feel about Liara?

If destroying the geth was part of destroying the reapers then Shepard would have to deal with it. She knew that she couldn't save everyone ... and she would destroy synthetics over organics without hesitation. But please note that this applies only to my RP. 

That what I thought too. However I don´t see my Shepard fully recovering from that, another reason I wanted Liara there. They had earned some peace after all they went through and paying such a price to ensure the Reapers are no longer a threat (I really want to know what they´ll do in Synthesis future when the new merged species create fully synthetic AIs, treat them like **** and make them rebel yet again. WTH was Walters thinking?)

[Robhuzz]

Bruddajakka wrote...

Honestly I think their planning to do an mmo, and want an excuse for all the races to start on earth.

This is what I would say to BioWare as they announce plans to make a Mass Effect MMO after what they pulled with ME3.

[jlb524]

TMA LIVE wrote...

If that blast can even destroy Big Ben with the control ending, or changes people and robots despite being in a ship, I'm willing to bet that blast ain't health for ships, not matter what.

I also think Joker was in FTL and not going through a Relay, since Relays are instant.

But so much was left in tact.

I'm not sure what caused Big Ben to get destroyed...but it can survive the blast so I think it's unrelated.

I guess they need to clarify the Joker thing.  I think most assume that it was a relay since it looked like he was in a tunnel thingy.  Relays are instant so if it is a relay, it won't make sense, yeah.

Also, Liara

Nerevar-as wrote...
(I really want to know what they´ll do in
Synthesis future when the new merged species create fully synthetic AIs,
treat them like **** and make them rebel yet again. WTH was Walters
thinking?)

Yeah, I'm not sure how that will curb the curiosity to create synthetic intelligent life.  The idea being, intelligent life (no matter what it's made from) will want to try and create intelligence themselves, either out of curiosity or to make life easier.

Modifié par jlb524, 05 avril 2012 - 06:09 .

[eoinnx03]

Guys I just heard the news. Such a shame. I'm done with Bioware now. I wanted the option for a sligthly uplifiting ending.
Blue children!

[TMA LIVE]

jlb524 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

If that blast can even destroy Big Ben with the control ending, or changes people and robots despite being in a ship, I'm willing to bet that blast ain't health for ships, not matter what.

I also think Joker was in FTL and not going through a Relay, since Relays are instant.

But so much was left in tact.

I'm not sure what caused Big Ben to get destroyed...but it can survive the blast so I think it's unrelated.

I guess they need to clarify the Joker thing.  I think most assume that it was a relay since it looked like he was in a tunnel thingy.  Relays are instant so if it is a relay, it won't make sense, yeah.

Also, Liara

Somehow, Liara looks better.

[Kilshrek]

PMC65 wrote...

Joker would forgive Shepard if it meant destroying the reapers ... where Joker is going to have emotional issues is when he finds out that his sister died. And if he finds out how she dies will he look at the asari the same way? How would he feel about Liara?

If destroying the geth was part of destroying the reapers then Shepard would have to deal with it. She knew that she couldn't save everyone ... and she would destroy synthetics over organics without hesitation. But please note that this applies only to my RP. 

I acknowledge that it's your RP, and here's my take on my RP. I just tacked this on top of the text because it may sound strange otherwise, it does start strange already, but that's because I put this on top.

But it's so renegade, my Shep made the most paragon choices she could, she tried diplomacy wherever she could. She didn't kill the rachni queen even though they were the greatest threat to the galaxy at the time, she cured the genophage on the chance that the krogan would not repeat their mistakes. She allowed the Geth to become individuals, and she helped Joker find love with EDI.

And the war took all that away. The biggest problem with Joker is that he is now left with nothing. Where there once was at least EDI, there's a shell. Where he hoped his sister survived, she had to be.... let go... by an asari. Not too many people would know this, and assuming the Citadel is destroyed, nobody but Shepard would ever know. Could Shepard keep her peace? Joker would be left ruined either way, does she ruin him some more?

Liara, Liara will be forced to mourn Shepard a second time, unless Shepard found a way to get back to Liara's side, but with no way of telling where the Normandy is, and no relays, and barely any functioning starships, and the remaining ones with far greater concerns than the Normandy, no matter how important the crew to Shepard and the overall war effort. Is any of that even possible?

Shepard knows the score, people die when there's fighting, some times, a great many people die. But she would have single handedly wiped out an entire sentient species, something she's never done before, in order to stop the greatest threat faced by the galaxy. In doing that, she also threw the galaxy into uncertainty, and may have doomed her crew, and her lover. She also may have killed her pilot's lover. That's a lot to deal with.

Being with Liara could certainly help ease the pain, but, with things as they are, will they ever meet again?

Robhuzz wrote...

This is what I would say to BioWare as they announce plans to make a Mass Effect MMO after what they pulled with ME3.

I'll take one of those!

Modifié par Kilshrek, 05 avril 2012 - 06:09 .

[PMC65]

Nerevar-as wrote...

That what I thought too. However I don´t see my Shepard fully recovering from that, another reason I wanted Liara there. They had earned some peace after all they went through and paying such a price to ensure the Reapers are no longer a threat (I really want to know what they´ll do in Synthesis future when the new merged species create fully synthetic AIs, treat them like **** and make them rebel yet again. WTH was Walters thinking?)

That choice would have made Saren proud! The strength of both and the weaknesses of neither!

Maybe with this DLC we will understand what Casey & Mac were trying to do? What would bother me is if instead of having the ending focus on Shepard they focused on ME4 set up. And to be honest, that is what it feels like. They weren't trying to give Shepard her final moment of glory but looking past the horizon on future games in the Mass Effect world. 

This summer should be interesting with the DLC. 

[DOsquareZER]

eoinnx03 wrote...

Guys I just heard the news. Such a shame. I'm done with Bioware now. I wanted the option for a sligthly uplifiting ending.
Blue children!

"You've heard the news, you know the mission.
You should also know there is only one way that this mission ends: and
that's with a serious ending that makes sense, one that is both inspiring and uplifting.
Look around you. Take a good look at the men and women that stand next
to you. Remember their faces, for one day you will tell your children and co-workers that you gamed and forum posted with such men and women as the internet has never seen.
And together, you'll accomplish the feat that will be told and retold
down through the ages, and find meme immortality as only the gods once knew."

slightly altered adama speech.  it fits.

Modifié par doozer12, 05 avril 2012 - 06:10 .

[Forsakentale]

PMC65 wrote...

Joker would forgive Shepard if it meant destroying the reapers ... where Joker is going to have emotional issues is when he finds out that his sister died. And if he finds out how she dies will he look at the asari the same way? How would he feel about Liara?

If destroying the geth was part of destroying the reapers then Shepard would have to deal with it. She knew that she couldn't save everyone ... and she would destroy synthetics over organics without hesitation. But please note that this applies only to my RP. 

Guys, sorry I'll rant a bit...

I agree. Everyone in the crew, EDI included, knew this was a pratically suicide mission. They knew the risks involved and knew that many of them wouldn't be back. Most of all, they all knew what lays on Shepard's shoulders (the whole universe, basically).

SO I can see Joker being pissed, raging mad, sad as ****, but he would grow out of it, because he knows that if Shepard could, she/he would do anything for EDI to be there.

The options we had at the end were so messed up that I was screaming: "I JUST SAVED THE FREAKING GETH! I JUST HELPED EDI AND JOKER TO START A RELATIONSHIP! DAMMIT!" it wasn't an artsy ending, it was... unfair. My Shep didn't trust the creator of the Reapers with the whole Synthesis thing and I dispised the idea of going all the way to sacrifice myself.

Doozer said it all: a hero doesn't need to die in the end to be a hero. That's Romance BS. If I want my character to be alive I should have that option, without going against everything I build so far.

I like the word "Epilogue" they used in the FAQs, but I'm almost loosing hope about it.

Modifié par Forsakentale, 05 avril 2012 - 06:12 .

[Kilshrek]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Like I said. 20,000 years later, ending A) The Blast only affected 10% of organics. And those 10% are still around in the other endings by people experimenting with Repear Tech, Borg style.

There's a way to write how all three endings end up at the exact same point years later.

You weren't listening to starchild, it merges all life in the galaxy. A new life. A new beginning. My left butt.

hoodie_gypsy wrote...

I'm doing my best to keep an open mind about the DLC thing. I'm very interested in what will happen with PAX tomorrow, and ... well, chin up, everyone. While my unhappiness with the ending brought me to the forums, the community and kindred spirits of other ME fans kept me here. Whatever happens, I'm glad I got to (kinda?) meet everyone, especially in this thread. You guys inspired me to do fan art, something I haven't felt to create in years. I'm even working on some little ME comics (opened my DA account back up, links soon).

So whatever happens and before we all go our separate ways in the coming weeks, I wanted to say thank you. For everything. (Liara quote not intended, but I'm leaving it in there.)

I want to thank you for the N7 baby pic, really. It was so cute, and I'm sure it helped a lot of people feel a bit better.

Modifié par Kilshrek, 05 avril 2012 - 06:16 .

[jlb524]

Kilshrek wrote...
And the war took all that away. The biggest problem with Joker is that he is now left with nothing. Where there once was at least EDI, there's a shell.

I actually feel worse about EDI than Joker, since Shepard helped her finally feel alive.  Then...yeah.  Her final conversation on Earth is painful when you know you'll be going with Destroy.

TMA LIVE wrote...
Somehow, Liara looks better.

I'm using that one graphics mod that makes things look a bit better...so that might be it.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

doozer12 wrote...

And No! No! Noooooooooo!... god no!

My reaction to a ME MMO!

Another thing they have to deal with is the fact that the Citadel survives in control. That is a major location of importance, so if they are ever going to release a future installment I wonder how they will do it.

And did no one else in this thread pick control?

[CrazyGreggy]

I've already lost hope. That flat "no" and "believe in artistic vision" basically says they're not budging on the endings, they're just going to "clarify" things as if we're too stupid to understand what is clearly the best thing since sliced bread.

They can take their artistic vision and stick it. If it's true that Casey and Mac shut themselves away and cooked up the script for the ending themselves and didn't allow any of the other writers near it, including the talent that gave us Liara and all the other characters, then that's not artistic vision at all. That's 2 kids taking their ball and going home.

[The Lightspeaker]

rvayda141 wrote...

shannon.users.sonic.net/masseffect/

Apparently someone made an epilogue generator (text expilogue anyway) and while there doesn't seem to be too much variety in it, I think it's worth a read through. I liked the epilogue for the control ending the best, but all of them are pretty interesting to read through.

This is pretty good imo. Keeping the link.

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

Liara fans: I'm not trolling anyone because I actually really like Liara
But
Liara arguably has the best the romance, she gets more content and
dialogue than anyone else. She completly overshadows every other LI not
to mention she is the only LI in ME3 who gets a romance without clothes,
even Traynors scene was showering with clothes on how ridiculous!
*Im not trying to start a flame war but BW clearly favors Liara over everyone else*
I
actually really enjoy scenes with Liara but I'm upset no other LI gets
what she does. At times I even feel like the game is trying to get
romance Liara especially through auto dialogue

Despite the fact I'm a card-carrying Liaramancer I can actually fully sympathise with this stance. Honestly I wish they'd put a lot more focus into relationships in general, not just the romances. Although the actual content was THERE it wasn't as much of a focus as its been in previous games (in ME1 you had regular crew meetings after major missions and most of ME2 was about building relationships with your crew to make them loyal).

jlb524 wrote...

 

TMA LIVE wrote...

Exactly. We need drunk Liara.

I'd pay 20 bucks for that add on.

Snap. Take my money damn it!

doozer12 wrote...

^ oh sweet found Liara and crew and
remade the iconic end of WWII times square kiss photo only with
Shep/Liara! ...that's a good idea. now if only i had art
skills...

This seriously needs to happen!



Ok, I only made it to page 1125 and I need to go in a minute. <_<

This thread is suddenly moving WAAAY too quick to keep up! Anyway I'm going out now. I've not forgotten about the fanfic and I'm off tomorrow so lots more work then. Should be at least one going up tomorrow and another sometime over the weekend. I'll probably PM one or two of you people if I can remember who offered to read over it (honestly you'd be best PMing me if you don't mind doing it and I'll just randomly pick a couple because I keep losing who offered since this thread is moving so quick).

To finish off before I go out, I saw this on twitter and dunno if you guys have seen it yet. Not STRICTLY Liara, but asari-related:

Modifié par The Lightspeaker, 05 avril 2012 - 06:19 .

[SuperClutch16]

Lizardviking wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

And No! No! Noooooooooo!... god no!

My reaction to a ME MMO!

Another thing they have to deal with is the fact that the Citadel survives in control. That is a major location of importance, so if they are ever going to release a future installment I wonder how they will do it.

And did no one else in this thread pick control?

Nope. DESTROY all the way. Yes, all synthetic life dies...but I can live with that if everyone else is safe and no longer needs to fear the Reapers. Plus, the Reapers are such an abomination they don't deserve continued existence. That's just my opinion of it anyway.

[jlb524]

Lizardviking wrote...
And did no one else in this thread pick control?

I didn't, Destroy twice, Synthesis once. 

[Robhuzz]

I think I just saw something that inspired... I don't know... hope?

JessicaMerizan @MrBlazenGlazen yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible

Appears to be a tweet from a dev, not sure whether it's real or not. Take it with a grain of salt.

In case it's true though we might still get our Marriage, old age, and a lot of little blue children...

Modifié par Robhuzz, 05 avril 2012 - 06:20 .

[Kilshrek]

jlb524 wrote...

I actually feel worse about EDI than Joker, since Shepard helped her finally feel alive.  Then...yeah.  Her final conversation on Earth is painful when you know you'll be going with Destroy.

I feel bad for both of them, but seeing as EDI is no more, there's no crying over spilled milk sort of thing. She's gone, so you can only feel bad for her. Joker's still alive, and he has no one left for him, besides his "family" from the Normandy. But even then they would eventually drift a little further apart as time went on, and Joker was never the best at making friends.

And then there's the Geth, who finally become individuals, and were looking forward to an awesome future with their creators. lolnope, Bioware wants you to die if Shepard lives.

Each ending has an equal taste of ass. And it's not even a pleasant ass taste. Three different colours of ass!


@ Robhuzz : Jessica is a community manager type. PR person and all that. She's not a dev, and I don't think she's privy to the dev/story work.

@ Doozer : Thanks for quoting the most badass Admiral of the 12 colonies.

Modifié par Kilshrek, 05 avril 2012 - 06:22 .

[DOsquareZER]

Robhuzz wrote...

I think I just saw something that inspired... I don't know... hope?[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

JessicaMerizan @MrBlazenGlazen yes but with some sacrifices depending on the end you chose. Ending is never perfect but Shep/crew reunited is possible

Appears to be a tweet from a dev, not sure whether it's real or not. Take it with a grain of salt.

In case it's true though we might still get our Marriage, old age, and a lot of little blue children...

^ ahahaha *falls out of chair laughing* *suddenly starts crying* Biowares emotional roller coaster. I want off!! make it stop!

Modifié par doozer12, 05 avril 2012 - 06:27 .

[MaroAlighieri]

Oh my god. You guys...this is what happens when I'm not here to be a weenie. You turn the thread into a damn funeral.