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Champion_of_Tzeentch wrote...
Am I the only one who thinks the council choice is weird? I mean Shepard had no way to know what would happen if he wasted more time, probably costing the lives of countless civilians on the citadel just to save the Destiny Ascension. On my first playthrough I thought this might be a right/wrong choice with delay causing critical mission failure. Liara agreeing with me reassured me, getting renegade points however did not...
Still not sure what to do with that for my ultimate canon playthrough.


Not to change the topic but.

Once Shepard had to make the choice he had locked out Sovereign of the Citadel network (momentarily). Couple that with convincing Saren to commit suicide and I felt Shepard had brought enough time that saving the DA was a viable option.

Also remember that not saving the DA means ignoring a good chunk of the Geth fleet. Who could very easily just turn around and focus on the Alliance ships shooting on Sovereign. Since the council fleet in that scenario just got steamrolled.

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Well, ME3 is going to be a war story. And genocide takes years. For the Protheans, I think it was over 100. And like a war story, despite the ongoing deaths, holocaust, and massacres, soldiers still try to find time to have fun with friends. I imagine lovers do the same. To stay sane, hopeful, and willing to keep fighting for a better future, despite how bleak the world may be.


Good point about the time frame.
I believe it's been said that you never feel more alive than when you're about to die and it could be said that an imminent threat gives rise to passion. Accepting this premise you could expect some intense passion between a coupled Liara and Shepard.

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I romanced Liara in Mass Effect but cheated on her with Miranda. I felt back so I broke up with Miranda and I plan to get Liara back in the Shadow Broker DLC.

WHO COULD HURT SUCH A SMURFY FACE?! :D

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Champion_of_Tzeentch wrote...
Am I the only one who thinks the council choice is weird? I mean Shepard had no way to know what would happen if he wasted more time, probably costing the lives of countless civilians on the citadel just to save the Destiny Ascension. On my first playthrough I thought this might be a right/wrong choice with delay causing critical mission failure. Liara agreeing with me reassured me, getting renegade points however did not...
Still not sure what to do with that for my ultimate canon playthrough.


The way I RP this scene is as follows: The council ignores Shepard's warnings all the time due to insufficient evidence, pretending to not know what happens in ME2 is best here.
With Sovereign attacking the citadel it's obvious to anyone with even 1/3 of a brain that Sovereign is not a geth creation. That said, Shepard thinks this is most certainly enough proof to convince the council of the threat. So Shepard proceeds to save the council since they'll be in his debt, humanity gains the trust of the council, the council will now help against the reapers AND the Destiny Ascension is a ship too powerfull to waste due to a simple anti council grudge.

Oh and since I rarely have Kaidan in my final squad (but always Liara), she helps to convince me to save the council.

Side note: I really hope to see the Destiny Ascension in proper action in ME3.

Good point about the time frame.
I believe it's been said that you never feel more alive than when you're about to die and it could be said that an imminent threat gives rise to passion. Accepting this premise you could expect some intense passion between a coupled Liara and Shepard


Yes please!:wizard:

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 no blue on this page yet?!!

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JediMaster_Murph wrote...

 no blue on this page yet?!!

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I agree :)
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That one. It was weird as up to then Liara was the Paragon in the Kaidan - Liara squad (she speaks for the Rachni for instance), and then they switch here. The Council choice felt very OOC for her.


Am I the only one who thinks the council choice is weird? I mean Shepard had no way to know what would happen if he wasted more time, probably costing the lives of countless civilians on the citadel just to save the Destiny Ascension. On my first playthrough I thought this might be a right/wrong choice with delay causing critical mission failure. Liara agreeing with me reassured me, getting renegade points however did not...
Still not sure what to do with that for my ultimate canon playthrough.


This is why I don't take her and Kaidan to the final battle. I would rather Kaidan swap lines with Liara because it seemed so odd.

I guess I can justify it to some extent by saying she's being realistic but it doesn't seem to fit. My answer is either Virmire Kaidan or take Garrus or Wrex as they always advocate killing the council from memory.

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I don't think Kaidan is the ultimate Paragon char and is still a Marine, I don't get it, but I never saved him from Virmire and when I did never took him on the final mission. At this point in ME, it's totally OOC for Liara to recommend letting the council die and shooting Saren in the head.

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CaptREDKangaroo wrote...

I don't think Kaidan is the ultimate Paragon char and is still a Marine, I don't get it, but I never saved him from Virmire and when I did never took him on the final mission. At this point in ME, it's totally OOC for Liara to recommend letting the council die and shooting Saren in the head.


Kaidan might be a Marine but he is also something of a do-gooder or a white knight. The way ME1 did the renegade/paragon squadmates did create akward/strange/OOC moments if you took two paragon squadmates like Kaidan and Liara with you.

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So, who would make Liara watch the smurfs?

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TMA LIVE wrote...

So, who would make Liara watch the smurfs?


I'm not that cruel xD

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So, who would make Liara watch the smurfs?


The new movie? Hell NO! If she wanted to, for the purposes of analysing Human popular culture then I wouldn't stop her but no way would I make her do anything she didn't want to do...Image IPB

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Ophiskc wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

So, who would make Liara watch the smurfs?


I'm not that cruel xD


lol

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Fiddles_stix wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

So, who would make Liara watch the smurfs?


The new movie? Hell NO! If she wanted to, for the purposes of analysing Human popular culture then I wouldn't stop her but no way would I make her do anything she didn't want to do...[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

i would just to poke fun :P

Modifié par ffej96, 07 août 2011 - 01:17 .


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So, ... how different is date with Liara on Normandy if it happens after collector ship?

wondering if i should save that activity till after SM or is dialog interesting enough before it?

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Marblecraze wrote...

So, ... how different is date with Liara on Normandy if it happens after collector ship?

wondering if i should save that activity till after SM or is dialog interesting enough before it?



It has different dialogue depending on when you do it, but nothing to major. Although it is a nice touch
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nice touch afterwards? excellent, ill hold off till than. thank you v much.

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Marblecraze wrote...

So, ... how different is date with Liara on Normandy if it happens after collector ship?

wondering if i should save that activity till after SM or is dialog interesting enough before it?


If it's before the Collectors she asks if you're okay she'll talk about Horizon if it's after the Collectors she'll talk about the collector base. That's it from memory and of course if you cheat she can't bring up a relationship that hasn't been consummated as it were.

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Fiddles_stix wrote...

Marblecraze wrote...

So, ... how different is date with Liara on Normandy if it happens after collector ship?

wondering if i should save that activity till after SM or is dialog interesting enough before it?


If it's before the Collectors she asks if you're okay she'll talk about Horizon if it's after the Collectors she'll talk about the collector base. That's it from memory and of course if you cheat she can't bring up a relationship that hasn't been consummated as it were.

The only other difference in dialogue is before SM, Liara saying once your team is ready, you'll jump through the Omega-4 relay.  After, she says, when the reapers finally arrive, you'll jump into the fray. 

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JediMaster_Murph wrote...

 no blue on this page yet?!!

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Oh, that pic gets me every time :wub:

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Marblecraze wrote...

So, ... how different is date with Liara on Normandy if it happens after collector ship?

wondering if i should save that activity till after SM or is dialog interesting enough before it?


Actually there are subtle changes in dialogue depending on when you play the DLC.
As soon as I gain access to Illium I go see Liara, complete the hacking missions then do LOTSB.
After the SB is beaten I return to the base, check out everything and then save the game before talking to Liara.
Then invite Liara to the Normandy for drinks. 
After that I reload, return to the ship and continue with the game.
This way I can have drinks with Liara at any point in the game thereafter. 

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So, who would make Liara watch the smurfs?


This is what Liara thinks of that.  (hope it works)EDIT:YEA it works.

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Vyse_Fina wrote...


To put it another way: Have you met any Asari, maiden or not, in any of the ME games, that struck you as significantly immature?

Anyway as I mentioned before, it's a minor detail and there is no point arguing about this...
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Why did Iwrite this post again? -_-


Completely irrelevent form your argument, I thought I'd point out a LOT of immature asari out there.

The shop owner who stupidly tries to play Conrad and THEN SHEPARD. And gets arrested for extortion.

The asari who tried to rip off Mr. Thax.

The asari who got killed by Enaya certainly didn't see a problem with a merc weilding a huge shotgun attempting a kidnapping attempt.

Elnora. Just...Elnora.

Rhana, that asari scientist from Virmire, certainly did not come across as the most mature or wise person out there.

Oh, and that criminal Parsini busted got played like a fiddle.

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TMA LIVE wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

So, who would make Liara watch the smurfs?


I'm not that cruel xD


lol

I dunno, maybe she will get a kick out of it...
Do you think Shep can persuade her to cosplay as Smurfette? xD

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Kadzin wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

So, who would make Liara watch the smurfs?


I'm not that cruel xD


lol

I dunno, maybe she will get a kick out of it...
Do you think Shep can persuade her to cosplay as Smurfette? xD

liara could borrow barbie shepards blond wig 
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