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#29926
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Neeh wrote...

This thread seems to derail into these ending arguments every so often. Isn't there enough other threads for those discussions? It's a subjective topic, might aswell just leave it at that.


Apologies, I was one of those who discussed it. This place should naturally be kept Liara, I suppose it is just hard to avoid sometimes, since the ending does infact affect Shepard and Liara's relationship.

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Kilshrek wrote...

Neeh wrote...

This thread seems to derail into these ending arguments every so often. Isn't there enough other threads for those discussions? It's a subjective topic, might aswell just leave it at that.


*shrugs* Slow news day. More Liara scalp crest massage is needed! :happy:


No dice! I can offer a reversed lick though..

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Neeh wrote...

This thread seems to derail into these ending arguments every so often. Isn't there enough other threads for those discussions? It's a subjective topic, might aswell just leave it at that.

Which is one of the reasons I spend less time here than I use to.

I would not expect too much from the extended cut and I wouldn't get your hopes up.

I have put my post ME3 story on hold until I see the DLC.  See if I need to change what I have already written.  I can work with the ending for the most part.  I do have other stories I am working on and one will be posted soon, I think.  

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TMA LIVE wrote...

What I'm saying is that if given a choice, you're not going to get anyone killed. It doesn't matter if they're optional, you're going to save the people that are closest to you unless you actually do want them to die. Like with the Suicide Mission.

What is so bad about giving players a choice? Is it so obscene for you to think that anyone would want things happier than you do?
I sense a lot of entitlement with your comments over the last couple weeks, especially when it comes to options people want that you clearly don't agree with. You got things your way already, yet you make eluding negative comments directed at anyone who wants it to end on a higher note. Is it really necessary, does it "really" cheapen your enjoyment of doom and gloom if teh option for a lighter end is available?

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Neeh wrote...

No dice! I can offer a reversed lick though..


Wait...what?


Sunnie22 wrote...

What is so bad about giving
players a choice? Is it so obscene for you to think that anyone would
want things happier than you do?
I sense a lot of entitlement with
your comments over the last couple weeks, especially when it comes to
options people want that you clearly don't agree with. You got things
your way already, yet you make eluding negative comments directed at
anyone who wants it to end on a higher note. Is it really necessary,
does it "really" cheapen your enjoyment of doom and gloom if teh option
for a lighter end is available?


Damn right. Agree with you fully, literally can't agree more. I'd hug you for saying this if I could.

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Neeh wrote...

No dice! I can offer a reversed lick though..


ACCEPTED!

#29932
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Kilshrek wrote...

Xarathox wrote...

I like some hawt lesbo pairings just as much as the next guy, but it's silly for a character that swings both ways to have a single tracked following.


That's not entirely true, many of our posters here have broshep fanfics, but I'm saying for the most part, the maleshep/Liara angle seems to be more popular for... base reasons, rather than romance itself. Which is a shame I will say, but since I'm not good at art or writing fanfics, I can't really do anything about the situation.

But then again I may be of the FemShep school, so I won't be a great help.



I really wish people would stop saying that because in my experience it is just not true, I have never seen these mythical images some people keep talking about (and I have search for them to judge for myself to no avail), and it is really irritating as a maleshep player for people to seem to randomly beat up on mshep like that, for no apparent reason, in my experience for every maleshep untasteful pic there is an untasteful femshep one too and even then they are so few and far between (for both) that is barely worth mentioning them, so let us please destroy this myth right here, right now, and let it rest once and for all

TMA LIVE wrote...

But I do honestly think if Shepard lived in any of the endings, it would cheap the endings, just to make fans head cannon happy. Sometimes you shouldn't be happy. 

 

That is fair and I agree with you to a certain point (I would gladly choose to sacrifice my shep if done right), but why do you want to impose your views on everyone else? why not give options for diferent tastes?

The ending should have been shaped by your decisions in the ME series and although I like a sacrifice ending I don't see why a survive ending should not be present for those who wish it, why force everyone to sacrifice shep? are we really that selfish that we must force everyone into what we believe is the "right" choice for the ending? I think in this situation it harms no one to have a "live and let live" approach to the ending dont you think?

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OMG, this is a serious thread. So many custom Liara avatars.

Also, Morinth inevitably dies in ME3, if she did not in ME2. You can't rush over a Banshee, unfortunately.

Modifié par FERMi27, 08 avril 2012 - 08:32 .


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Kilshrek wrote...

Neeh wrote...

No dice! I can offer a reversed lick though..


ACCEPTED!


Oi, side note. Do I have you on Origin? Do you even have Origin?

I've been adding a bunch of people in my drunken haze you see and don't really want to miss regular contributors. :P


FERMi27 wrote...

OMG, this is a serious thread. So many custom Liara avatars.


Damn right. Haven't you seen the thread title? ;)

Modifié par The Lightspeaker, 08 avril 2012 - 08:31 .


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Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

What I'm saying is that if given a choice, you're not going to get anyone killed. It doesn't matter if they're optional, you're going to save the people that are closest to you unless you actually do want them to die. Like with the Suicide Mission.

What is so bad about giving players a choice? Is it so obscene for you to think that anyone would want things happier than you do?
I sense a lot of entitlement with your comments over the last couple weeks, especially when it comes to options people want that you clearly don't agree with. You got things your way already, yet you make eluding negative comments directed at anyone who wants it to end on a higher note. Is it really necessary, does it "really" cheapen your enjoyment of doom and gloom if teh option for a lighter end is available?


Exactly Sunnie, the Pro-Enders already got their ending. For those of us who didn't we want the brighter ending as an option.

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Heather Cline wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

What I'm saying is that if given a choice, you're not going to get anyone killed. It doesn't matter if they're optional, you're going to save the people that are closest to you unless you actually do want them to die. Like with the Suicide Mission.

What is so bad about giving players a choice? Is it so obscene for you to think that anyone would want things happier than you do?
I sense a lot of entitlement with your comments over the last couple weeks, especially when it comes to options people want that you clearly don't agree with. You got things your way already, yet you make eluding negative comments directed at anyone who wants it to end on a higher note. Is it really necessary, does it "really" cheapen your enjoyment of doom and gloom if teh option for a lighter end is available?


Exactly Sunnie, the Pro-Enders already got their ending. For those of us who didn't we want the brighter ending as an option.

We got Shep gasp for air one time then credit.  But I'm not even sure if that actually makes sense with Shepard even surviving the destroy ending.
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ladyvader wrote...

We got Shep gasp for air one time then credit.  But I'm not even sure if that actually makes sense with Shepard even surviving the destroy ending.
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How does Shepard survive this explosion with the compromised armor Shepard is wearing?


Space magic and the power of speculating.

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ladyvader wrote...

Heather Cline wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

What I'm saying is that if given a choice, you're not going to get anyone killed. It doesn't matter if they're optional, you're going to save the people that are closest to you unless you actually do want them to die. Like with the Suicide Mission.

What is so bad about giving players a choice? Is it so obscene for you to think that anyone would want things happier than you do?
I sense a lot of entitlement with your comments over the last couple weeks, especially when it comes to options people want that you clearly don't agree with. You got things your way already, yet you make eluding negative comments directed at anyone who wants it to end on a higher note. Is it really necessary, does it "really" cheapen your enjoyment of doom and gloom if teh option for a lighter end is available?


Exactly Sunnie, the Pro-Enders already got their ending. For those of us who didn't we want the brighter ending as an option.

We got Shep gasp for air one time then credit.  But I'm not even sure if that actually makes sense with Shepard even surviving the destroy ending.
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How does Shepard survive this explosion with the compromised armor Shepard is wearing?


I think we stated that he's a terminator,  I personally like to think that Shep is Wolverine from the X-men either way he can't die by mortal means, it'll also explain how he survived a blast from Harbinger without having his face melted off....

This also means that the little blue baby's will be invincible.  Think about it a 1000 year+ lifespan, unmeasurable healing factor and eventually adamantium coated bone claws.  They will be the ultimate soldiers:devil:

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Luxure wrote...
True to some extent. I don't get why people must see the hero die after a great battle just to be "heroic". That's plain stupid it's movie logic. But that doesn't matter, because Shepard dies no matter what flavour you choose. We should've been able to choose, not have this garbage stuff.

MrBtongue had a good point about the destruction ending. Why does Shepard walk towards the exploding tube? Why didn't s/he stay back? :huh:
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The Lightspeaker wrote...
I have to say that I fundamentally think that the femshep/Liara romance works a lot better for me on an emotional level. I don't know why. Maybe its the voice acting. I always imagine maleshep as being more inclined to get together with Ashley or Miranda (although my one maleshep runthrough is with Tali) whereas I can easily imagine Femshep/Liara.

Same here, I really can't explain it. It just feels right. :huh:
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Wulfram wrote...
I do think it takes away from a sad or bittersweet ending if there's a clearly better one available. Having to deliberately sabotage your character takes away from investment.

They've tracked tons of data throughout the trilogy. They could've made everything to have an effect on the ending, just like they promised pre-launch, but instead everything you've done is thrown to garbage and replaced by three somewhat identical choices.

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I do think it takes away from a sad or bittersweet ending if there's a clearly better one available. Having to deliberately sabotage your character takes away from investment.

Which isn't to say that satisfying my penchant for heroic sacrifice is more important that your desire to see a happy ending. Just that offering choice isn't a simple solution.

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Andronic0s wrote...

I really wish people would stop saying that because in my experience it is just not true, I have never seen these mythical images some people keep talking about (and I have search for them to judge for myself to no avail), and it is really irritating as a maleshep player for people to seem to randomly beat up on mshep like that, for no apparent reason, in my experience for every maleshep untasteful pic there is an untasteful femshep one too and even then they are so few and far between (for both) that is barely worth mentioning them, so let us please destroy this myth right here, right now, and let it rest once and for all


Your experiences and mine seem to be different then. I'm just calling it as I see it, and as Yuqi and some others seem to see it as well. I don't mean anything malicious by it, please don't misunderstand.

I'm not beating up mshep as a character, and let's not have this descend into another shep war. People here were making observations, and I merely put forward my own observations, and opinion on the matter. I mean no offence.

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moreeman06 wrote...


I think we stated that he's a terminator,  I personally like to think that Shep is Wolverine from the X-men either way he can't die by mortal means, it'll also explain how he survived a blast from Harbinger without having his face melted off....

This also means that the little blue baby's will be invincible.  Think about it a 1000 year+ lifespan, unmeasurable healing factor and eventually adamantium coated bone claws.  They will be the ultimate soldiers:devil:


"impatiently waits for this fanfic to be written"

#29943
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moreeman06 wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Heather Cline wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

What I'm saying is that if given a choice, you're not going to get anyone killed. It doesn't matter if they're optional, you're going to save the people that are closest to you unless you actually do want them to die. Like with the Suicide Mission.

What is so bad about giving players a choice? Is it so obscene for you to think that anyone would want things happier than you do?
I sense a lot of entitlement with your comments over the last couple weeks, especially when it comes to options people want that you clearly don't agree with. You got things your way already, yet you make eluding negative comments directed at anyone who wants it to end on a higher note. Is it really necessary, does it "really" cheapen your enjoyment of doom and gloom if teh option for a lighter end is available?


Exactly Sunnie, the Pro-Enders already got their ending. For those of us who didn't we want the brighter ending as an option.

We got Shep gasp for air one time then credit.  But I'm not even sure if that actually makes sense with Shepard even surviving the destroy ending.
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How does Shepard survive this explosion with the compromised armor Shepard is wearing?


I think we stated that he's a terminator,  I personally like to think that Shep is Wolverine from the X-men either way he can't die by mortal means, it'll also explain how he survived a blast from Harbinger without having his face melted off....

This also means that the little blue baby's will be invincible.  Think about it a 1000 year+ lifespan, unmeasurable healing factor and eventually adamantium coated bone claws.  They will be the ultimate soldiers:devil:

She's a terminator.  That is Leia in the screenshot.  <_<  Not that you can tell which sex Shepard is in it.  I've seen a few other vids on YouTube and I have yet to see a Shepard with a N7 helmet on.  It was the helmet that made it possible for Cerberus to bring Shepard back.

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Ah, new video by MrBtongue. Yes, I've been thinking about that, and I came to the conclusion that she felt she was going to die and nothing else mattered at that point, that's when the flashbacks of her loved ones occur and all fuss happens. It would've been pointless to take cover considering the whole Citadel blew up. Anyway...

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Wulfram wrote...

I do think it takes away from a sad or bittersweet ending if there's a clearly better one available. Having to deliberately sabotage your character takes away from investment.

Which isn't to say that satisfying my penchant for heroic sacrifice is more important that your desire to see a happy ending. Just that offering choice isn't a simple solution.


Thats sort of like saying that "We can either put in a hapier optional ending or we can add one more big explosion effect. Ok, lets go with the explosion!"
Does the lack one more explosion "really" cheapen your prefered ending? Really?

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ladyvader wrote...

Heather Cline wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

What I'm saying is that if given a choice, you're not going to get anyone killed. It doesn't matter if they're optional, you're going to save the people that are closest to you unless you actually do want them to die. Like with the Suicide Mission.

What is so bad about giving players a choice? Is it so obscene for you to think that anyone would want things happier than you do?
I sense a lot of entitlement with your comments over the last couple weeks, especially when it comes to options people want that you clearly don't agree with. You got things your way already, yet you make eluding negative comments directed at anyone who wants it to end on a higher note. Is it really necessary, does it "really" cheapen your enjoyment of doom and gloom if teh option for a lighter end is available?


Exactly Sunnie, the Pro-Enders already got their ending. For those of us who didn't we want the brighter ending as an option.

We got Shep gasp for air one time then credit.  But I'm not even sure if that actually makes sense with Shepard even surviving the destroy ending.
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How does Shepard survive this explosion with the compromised armor Shepard is wearing?


Well he survived a direct hit by Harby's beam even though it can cut through the armor of a battleship :wizard:, so I guess shep can survive a common explosion, shep will probably have a few more broken bones because it would not be realistic otherwise :pinched: , plot armor is the best type of armor 

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*sigh* don´t we have enough threads about the endings already??

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I'm a guy. I like action, sports, and girls. But I'm also a romantic. I enjoy an ending where the hero goes through hell and back and returns to the people s/he loves.

Shepard deserves a happy ending...especially with Liara. That's just how I see it anyway.

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DevilBeast wrote...

*sigh* don´t we have enough threads about the endings already??


I agree...lets not taint this one with excessive ending controversy :(

We should get back to Liara :innocent:

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Luxure wrote...

Ah, new video by MrBtongue. Yes, I've been thinking about that, and I came to the conclusion that she felt she was going to die and nothing else mattered at that point, that's when the flashbacks of her loved ones occur and all fuss happens. It would've been pointless to take cover considering the whole Citadel blew up. Anyway...


Shepard said it many times through out the game.  I'm going to defeat the Reapers or die trying.  As dark as the game is excluding the ending.  Having a happy happy joy joy ending wouldn't even fit it.  Which is why I think the ending is very fitting.  Gut wrenching sad and depressing, but still fitting.

Do I want my happy ever after for Leia and Liara?  Yes, I do.  But I also think Shep giving their life to save everyone else fits perfectly.

The post ME3 fic I write will not have everyone from the squad living.  It will be darker than my other stories.  Who here wouldn't want to wake up with this every morning?
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