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[SuperClutch16]

Hahah!! Success!!

[ladyvader]

jlb524 wrote...

ladyvader wrote...
I didn't view it that way.  Leia knew Liara still had feeling for her after they kiss the first time on Illium.  She was confused and heartbroken about Liara's coldness, but once Liara explained what happened with the SB, she understood Liara's reaction and was patient with her.  

Same here.

My Shepard knows Liara is a very private person that doesn't fall in love easily so the whole thing would make no sense.  Wanting to help someone isn't always motivated by sex.   

I never understood what made anyone think Liara and Feron where an item.  She wanted to kill him in the comic at times and didn't trust him.  It wasn't until he gave himself up to allow her to escape with Shepard's body that Liara actually trusted him.

Now, she feels she owes him for helping her.  Add in the mourning Liara was going through with the loss of her love, Shepard.  Then seeing Shepard alive and that made her feel Shepard might hate her for giving Shepard to Ceberus.  I can see a sole survivor Shepard not forgiving Liara for that. 

About the vid dialogue.  Finally listen to the rest of it.  It seems it some of it is from a Shepard that cheated on Liara and didn't break up with them in ME2 and they got back together in ME3.  If you break it off, the import says you didn't romance anyone in ME2.  LI pick being up or down is the trigger.

I think the final cabin scene plays the same for a cheater Shepard as it does for one that didn't do the DLC.  Shepard says, "I love you, Liara T'Soni."  With "I...I love you too" response from Liara.

Modifié par ladyvader, 09 avril 2012 - 12:40 .

[SuperClutch16]

Andronic0s wrote...

 *sighs* Guess I'll start posting maleshep fanart pics to try and debuke this porno myth, some might have already been posted as I have not had the oportunity to search the 800 pages of the thread I missed 



From: Ghostifre on DA ghostfire.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-Shepard-x-Liara-169730483

I found a nice one

[ladyvader]

Andronic0s wrote...

 *sighs* Guess I'll start posting maleshep fanart pics to try and debuke this porno myth, some might have already been posted as I have not had the oportunity to search the 800 pages of the thread I missed 



From: Ghostifre on DA ghostfire.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-Shepard-x-Liara-169730483

I don't think I've seen this one before.  Very nice.

@Lizardviking

Did your Shep and Liara make up?  Sounds like your Shep isn't very understanding.  

[speedy111280]

jlb524 wrote...

ladyvader wrote...
I didn't view it that way.  Leia knew Liara still had feeling for her after they kiss the first time on Illium.  She was confused and heartbroken about Liara's coldness, but once Liara explained what happened with the SB, she understood Liara's reaction and was patient with her.  

Same here.

My Shepard knows Liara is a very private person that doesn't fall in love easily so the whole thing would make no sense.  Wanting to help someone isn't always motivated by sex.   
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After that kiss when Shepard walked into her office, my Shep never doubted that Liara had feelings for her. She was a bit hurt and confused at by the rapid change from a kiss to the incredibly cold and businesslike attitude from Liara. But when Liara told her the story of how Cerberus got her body she never truly thought that Liara had moved on with this friend because Liara is not the type to jump from one relationship to another like some might do, this is the woman who went 106 years without joining with anyone. It's not something she takes lightly so my Shep knew she just had to be patient and push a little when the time was right.

[Sunnie]

SuperClutch16 wrote...

Hahah!! Success!!

You're welcome.

[jlb524]

ladyvader wrote...
I never understood what made anyone think Liara and Feron where an item.  She wanted to kill him in the comic at times and didn't trust him.  It wasn't until he gave himself up to allow her to escape with Shepard's body that Liara actually trusted him.

No clue...my Shepard's aren't worried about him, that's for sure.

ladyvader wrote... 
Now, she feels she owes him for helping her.  Add in the mourning Liara was going through with the loss of her love, Shepard.  Then seeing Shepard alive and that made her feel Shepard might hate her for giving Shepard to Ceberus.  I can see a sole survivor Shepard not forgiving Liara for that. 

Veronica is a sole survivor so I imagine in her universe Liara's even more guilty and cold during the reunion...which drove Veronica nuts.  It didn't really bother her as she gets over things pretty quickly...when Liara finally opened up about what she did with Veronica's body, she was just relieved that Liara was finally talking to her about what happened and not at all angry.  

ladyvader wrote... 
About the vid dialogue.  Finally listen to the rest of it.  It seems it some of it is from a Shepard that cheated on Liara and didn't break up with them in ME2 and they got back together in ME3.  If you break it off, the import says you didn't romance anyone in ME2.  LI pick being up or down is the trigger.

I think the final cabin scene plays the same for a cheater Shepard as it does for one that didn't do the DLC.  Shepard says, "I love you, Liara T'Soni."  With "I...I love you too" response from Liara.

Ah, I see..never saw the 'cheater' Shepard one.  Thanks!

speedy111280 wrote...
After that kiss when Shepard walked into her office, my Shep never doubted that Liara had feelings for her. She was a bit hurt and confused at by the rapid change from a kiss to the incredibly cold and businesslike attitude from Liara. But when Liara told her the story of how Cerberus got her body she never truly thought that Liara had moved on with this friend because Liara is not the type to jump from one relationship to another like some might do, this is the woman who went 106 years without joining with anyone. It's not something she takes lightly so my Shep knew she just had to be patient and push a little when the time was right.

Yeah.  I don't see Liara as a prude concerning sex or anything but she seems to be the type of person that really doesn't require a relationship (either romantic or just sexual) to be happy...so she doesn't actively search for them like most people.  Considering how private and guarded she is as a person, I'd say she's happier alone than in a relationship that she feels won't go anywhere or doesn't mean anything to her.  Basicaly, she's definitely not a casual sex/casual romance type of person.  I just have a hard time seeing her get with anyone without getting to know them very very well.  With Shepard, Liara melded with her of course and then looked her history up.  I also felt they spent a lot of time together at first since Shepard would have had to train Liara in order for her to fit into the squad.   There was also chemistry there and they just...worked.  I still think even with Shepard, Liara was a bit restrained at first and didn't want to reveal much about herself.  I remember in the first ME1 conversation, Shepard asked Liara about herself and Liara deflected, eventually turning the conversation to Shepard.

Modifié par jlb524, 09 avril 2012 - 12:56 .

[Xarathox]

Alrighty, time to go count blueberries.

[Kilshrek]

jlb524 wrote...

ladyvader wrote... 
Now, she feels she owes him for helping her.  Add in the mourning Liara was going through with the loss of her love, Shepard.  Then seeing Shepard alive and that made her feel Shepard might hate her for giving Shepard to Ceberus.  I can see a sole survivor Shepard not forgiving Liara for that. 

Veronica is a sole survivor so I imagine in her universe Liara's even more guilty and cold during the reunion...which drove Veronica nuts.  It didn't really bother her as she gets over things pretty quickly...when Liara finally opened up about what she did with Veronica's body, she was just relieved that Liara was finally talking to her about what happened and not at all angry.  

Hmm, seeing as the sole survivor Shepard basically survived a Cerberus set up I can definitely see that angle. But love can make you to forgive a great many things, can't it? It's a lot to ask, but it would have been nice if Shep's backgrounds were fleshed out just a little more.

Inicidentally, what do different Shep's say on Eden Prime? I never imported any other Shep but my Spacer, so I don't know the other lines. Does Liara say anything different?

[ladyvader]

jlb524 wrote...

ladyvader wrote... 
About the vid dialogue.  Finally listen to the rest of it.  It seems it some of it is from a Shepard that cheated on Liara and didn't break up with them in ME2 and they got back together in ME3.  If you break it off, the import says you didn't romance anyone in ME2.  LI pick being up or down is the trigger.

I think the final cabin scene plays the same for a cheater Shepard as it does for one that didn't do the DLC.  Shepard says, "I love you, Liara T'Soni."  With "I...I love you too" response from Liara.

Ah, I see..never saw the 'cheater' Shepard one.  Thanks!

I can't import my 'cheater' file.  I have a tool Shepard.  She went with Garrus, but did break it off with him.  So that character file as both.  Some saves says Shepard was with Liara in ME1 and no one in ME2 or it says Shepard was with Liara in ME1 and Garrus in ME2.  I tried a few weeks ago to import that Shepard and the 'cheater' part of the file and ended up importing a different Shep all together.

I did post the vids with the romance and now I forget who it was I was discussing it with, but they said the cheater cabin scene played out the same as the no SB DLC scene.  Which is just...just....wrong.  There should be different lines there.  Oh well, we got what we got.  

[Shadow_Raven]

Tyranniac wrote...

1. When did your Shepard first fall for Liara?
2. Did you romance Liara on your first playthrough?
3. How did your Shepard feel about Liara's treatment of Shep on Illium? (pre-LotSB)
4. What did your Shepard tell Liara about how she/he felt in the cabin convo after LotSB? Worried/Hpeful/Frustrated?
5. Did your Shepard visit Liara before going back to Earth to stand trial?
6. Who are Liara's closest friends in your headcanon?
7. How many blue babies should there be? None? One? Five?

1. When she first met her.
2. Yes.
3. Confused, but was impressed when she told her how much trouble she went through to retrieve her body.
4. Frustrated.
5. Yes.
6. Garrus and Dr. Chakwas.
7. Maybe one.

Modifié par Shadow_Raven, 09 avril 2012 - 01:04 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

ladyvader wrote...
@Lizardviking

Did your Shep and Liara make up?  Sounds like your Shep isn't very understanding. 

My Shepard was a mess ever since waking up on that Cerberus base. Pretty hurt how Anderson and Kaidan did not trust him and how the Alliance and Council abandoned him. So when he lands on Illium and meets Liara he reaches out for her for comfort and support, only to be seemingly repaid with a cold shoulder and a stab in the heart. Things go badly and he leaves in the end thinking it is over between them.

It is only a long time afterwards when he gets his act together that he realises how poorly he acted on Illium. He also gets filled with guilt once he learn about it being her who found his body.

[ladyvader]

Kilshrek wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

ladyvader wrote... 
Now, she feels she owes him for helping her.  Add in the mourning Liara was going through with the loss of her love, Shepard.  Then seeing Shepard alive and that made her feel Shepard might hate her for giving Shepard to Ceberus.  I can see a sole survivor Shepard not forgiving Liara for that. 

Veronica is a sole survivor so I imagine in her universe Liara's even more guilty and cold during the reunion...which drove Veronica nuts.  It didn't really bother her as she gets over things pretty quickly...when Liara finally opened up about what she did with Veronica's body, she was just relieved that Liara was finally talking to her about what happened and not at all angry.  

Hmm, seeing as the sole survivor Shepard basically survived a Cerberus set up I can definitely see that angle. But love can make you to forgive a great many things, can't it? It's a lot to ask, but it would have been nice if Shep's backgrounds were fleshed out just a little more.

Inicidentally, what do different Shep's say on Eden Prime? I never imported any other Shep but my Spacer, so I don't know the other lines. Does Liara say anything different?

Shepard says something different depending on which background you have.  I've done all backgrounds, but I didn't record all of them. 

Do a non-import Shepard and Eden Prime is very different.  Garrus doesn't joke about Liara finding Dinosaurs.  It seemed way too serious.  Garrus doesn't even mention the Collectors when Liara says the artifact is an actual Prothean.  Garrus says like the ones on Illos or the Collectors or something along those lines.  Not mentioned in non-import Shepard.

Liara seems more distant too.  I debated for over three hours last night and again today on romancing Liara or Traynor with the non-import femShep.  I've done two runs with Liara as a new ME3 romance and wasn't sure if I wanted to do a third.  Then I did the shower scene with Traynor and felt guilty over it.  And this Shepard isn't cheating on Liara, but I as a player felt like I was.  I've ended up staying with Traynor.  The scene before hitting the Cerberus base better be worth it.  

Sad, I know. 

[jlb524]

Kilshrek wrote...
Hmm, seeing as the sole survivor Shepard basically survived a Cerberus set up I can definitely see that angle. But love can make you to forgive a great many things, can't it?

Yeah, I think that's part of it.  If it were any other person, Veronica would have been angry but she would have gotten over it stll...she doesn't really dwell on the past.

[hoodie_gypsy]

Apologies if this formats funny. The iPad doesn't seem to understand scroll bars within text fields, so I was typing blind for half of this.

1. I think my Shep started to fall for her during LOTSB (unbeknownst to me, I still claim that I was an observer along for the ride, haha!). My Shep was being loyal to Kaidan, so she was alone for the whole run of ME2, but something in her voice when she was talking to Liara made me take pause. Then in ME3, Shep had just lost Mordin and Thane, and Kaidan didn't care (he wouldn't know my Shep's suicide squad bros from a hole in the wall because he wasn't there for her) and rambled on about steak sandwiches (after pointing a gun at her head). I fiddled with the conversation, wishing for a renegade table-flip, then shook my fist at the screen and said/thought "Shepard, I love you and you deserve better than this. You're going to march across the courtyard and throw yourself at the blue feet of someone who I know will take care of you."

2. Nope, Shep ran with Kaidan. I'm a straight girl, so my Shep was too (guess she had other ideas). Back then, Liara was just an adorable and interesting friend, like Tali.

3. She got a hug from an old friend, then a strange hacking request that resulted in renegade points. We were both a little confused.

4. I am a bad person and I don't remember. Probably whatever was most hopeful.

5. I figure that my Shep went immediately back to earth after the events of Arrival. I remember being happy that Hacket still trusted her, and after the collateral damage, it was probably best that Shep turn herself in to the Alliance and council immediately.

6. Other than Shep? Probably Garrus and Tali. I bet she and Ash would have become great friends if Ash had lived.

7. Oh dear. I suppose I'll just let them figure that out.

[Thorn Harvestar]

Tyranniac wrote...

1. When did your Shepard first fall for Liara?
2. Did you romance Liara on your first playthrough?
3. How did your Shepard feel about Liara's treatment of Shep on Illium? (pre-LotSB)
4. What did your Shepard tell Liara about how she/he felt in the cabin convo after LotSB? Worried/Hpeful/Frustrated?
5. Did your Shepard visit Liara before going back to Earth to stand trial?
6. Who are Liara's closest friends in your headcanon?
7. How many blue babies should there be? None? One? Five?

1. When she showed her bravery on Noveria standing up to her mother
2. Yep
3. A little startled. Worried something had happened that she wasn't telling. When Shep found out it was all about recovering his body... he just wanted to thank and comfort her. 
4. Worried.
5. Yes.
6. Garrus and Wrex.
7. 2 would be nice.

Modifié par Thorn Harvestar, 09 avril 2012 - 01:06 .

[Reptilian Rob]

Liara is my Sheps primary romance! I lover her character, so nerdy and sweet!

Liara = Wife

Garrus = BFF

[jlb524]

hoodie_gypsy wrote...
I fiddled with the conversation, wishing for a renegade table-flip,

That would have been amusing.

[Kilshrek]

ladyvader wrote...
Shepard says something different depending on which background you have.  I've done all backgrounds, but I didn't record all of them. 

Do a non-import Shepard and Eden Prime is very different.  Garrus doesn't joke about Liara finding Dinosaurs.  It seemed way too serious.  Garrus doesn't even mention the Collectors when Liara says the artifact is an actual Prothean.  Garrus says like the ones on Illos or the Collectors or something along those lines.  Not mentioned in non-import Shepard.

Liara seems more distant too.  I debated for over three hours last night and again today on romancing Liara or Traynor with the non-import femShep.  I've done two runs with Liara as a new ME3 romance and wasn't sure if I wanted to do a third.  Then I did the shower scene with Traynor and felt guilty over it.  And this Shepard isn't cheating on Liara, but I as a player felt like I was.  I've ended up staying with Traynor.  The scene before hitting the Cerberus base better be worth it.  

Sad, I know. 

Eh, 2 out of 3 happy Liara's ain't too bad. Should be 3/3, but I guess it's fine.

But is it just a brief thing, because Spacer Shep just says yeah, I grew up on ships. One blows up, you just move to another, sort of thing. I'd be keen to hear Colonist Shep.

And that's a bit of a shame, but seeing as I don't have the strength to start a non-import Shep, I may have to rely on some videos.

Also, the Traynor dialogue pre-Cronos is... kinda bittersweet, I guess. If you want to spoil yourself I think you can go to the Traynor thread.

jlb524 wrote...

Yeah, I think that's part of it.  If it were any other person, Veronica would have been angry but she would have gotten over it stll...she doesn't really dwell on the past.

The pragmatic approach, what I expect from a Renegade. Not shooting your friends in the back..

hoodie_gypsy wrote...

I fiddled with the conversation, wishing for a renegade table-flip, then shook my fist at the screen and said/thought "Shepard, I love you and you deserve better than this. You're going to march across the courtyard and throw yourself at the blue feet of someone who I know will take care of you."

Hah, see what you missed out on?
Should totally had a table flip though. :happy:

Modifié par Kilshrek, 09 avril 2012 - 01:15 .

[ladyvader]

jlb524 wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...
Hmm, seeing as the sole survivor Shepard basically survived a Cerberus set up I can definitely see that angle. But love can make you to forgive a great many things, can't it?

Yeah, I think that's part of it.  If it were any other person, Veronica would have been angry but she would have gotten over it stll...she doesn't really dwell on the past.

My sole survivor femShep was a hot mess after waking up on the Cerberus base.  And single as well, so she didn't have anyone to lean on for support.  Everyone around her was Cerberus.  She got drunk after every mission.  (Once I got Kasumi and the lounge was open)  She went off on Liara when they ran into each other on Illium. 

She calmed down after the SM and all but Chakwas and Joker were left from Cerberus.  Then she went to help Liara with the SB and felt guilty about going off on her before and tried to make up for it then.  She always had a crush on Liara and was unable to romance her in ME1. 

And sitting on Earth for six months did wonders for her attitude.  She was grateful for being alive and still able to fight the Reapers and she hoped Liara was willing to give her a chance.  Which she did. 

@Lizardviking
Sounds like your Shepard is a lot like my angry single femShepard in ME2.  I do think Anderson trusted Shepard, he didn't trust Cerberus and that is why he didn't tell you everything you wanted to know.  Anderson also stone-walled the VS when they asked about Shepard. 

[Yuqi]

ladyvader wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

ladyvader wrote... 
About the vid dialogue.  Finally listen to the rest of it.  It seems it some of it is from a Shepard that cheated on Liara and didn't break up with them in ME2 and they got back together in ME3.  If you break it off, the import says you didn't romance anyone in ME2.  LI pick being up or down is the trigger.

I think the final cabin scene plays the same for a cheater Shepard as it does for one that didn't do the DLC.  Shepard says, "I love you, Liara T'Soni."  With "I...I love you too" response from Liara.

Ah, I see..never saw the 'cheater' Shepard one.  Thanks!

I can't import my 'cheater' file.  I have a tool Shepard.  She went with Garrus, but did break it off with him.  So that character file as both.  Some saves says Shepard was with Liara in ME1 and no one in ME2 or it says Shepard was with Liara in ME1 and Garrus in ME2.  I tried a few weeks ago to import that Shepard and the 'cheater' part of the file and ended up importing a different Shep all together.

I did post the vids with the romance and now I forget who it was I was discussing it with, but they said the cheater cabin scene played out the same as the no SB DLC scene.  Which is just...just....wrong.  There should be different lines there.  Oh well, we got what we got.  

With the garus andliara scenario I tried it. Up until the citadel 'date' I was able to keep both romances going. But whoever you 'choose' on the date in the citadel locks in the romance.

But man does she get pissy about Traynor. As for LOTSB Shep is confronted everytime you cheat, for me it seemed like she was the most mad about Garus (for fshep) and Miranda/Jack (for mshep.)

I feel awkward because I don't have any headcannon,but it's intresting to see everyones awnsers to the questions.

[ladyvader]

Kilshrek wrote...

ladyvader wrote...
Shepard says something different depending on which background you have.  I've done all backgrounds, but I didn't record all of them. 

Do a non-import Shepard and Eden Prime is very different.  Garrus doesn't joke about Liara finding Dinosaurs.  It seemed way too serious.  Garrus doesn't even mention the Collectors when Liara says the artifact is an actual Prothean.  Garrus says like the ones on Illos or the Collectors or something along those lines.  Not mentioned in non-import Shepard.

Liara seems more distant too.  I debated for over three hours last night and again today on romancing Liara or Traynor with the non-import femShep.  I've done two runs with Liara as a new ME3 romance and wasn't sure if I wanted to do a third.  Then I did the shower scene with Traynor and felt guilty over it.  And this Shepard isn't cheating on Liara, but I as a player felt like I was.  I've ended up staying with Traynor.  The scene before hitting the Cerberus base better be worth it.  

Sad, I know. 

Eh, 2 out of 3 happy Liara's ain't too bad. Should be 3/3, but I guess it's fine.

But is it just a brief thing, because Spacer Shep just says yeah, I grew up on ships. One blows up, you just move to another, sort of thing. I'd be keen to hear Colonist Shep.

And that's a bit of a shame, but seeing as I don't have the strength to start a non-import Shep, I may have to rely on some videos.

Also, the Traynor dialogue pre-Cronos is... kinda bittersweet, I guess. If you want to spoil yourself I think you can go to the Traynor thread.

jlb524 wrote...

Yeah, I think that's part of it.
 If it were any other person, Veronica would have been angry but she
would have gotten over it stll...she doesn't really dwell on the past.

The pragmatic approach, what I expect from a Renegade. Not shooting your friends in the back..

No, I went to YouTube to make sure there was the scene before the Cerberus base, but I had the sound off.  Since there is another scene, I decided to stay with Traynor.  It will be the only run.

I had one Shep break it off with Tali to be with Liara.  So far I've done seven runs and only two are not with Liara.  The non-import I'm doing now and the one import with Ash then Jack and back to Ash.  So I thinnk 5/7 is a good ratio.  

I have ten Shepard(s)
4 with Liara
1 single
2 with Tali
2 with Ash
1 with Kaidan

Not sure if I'm going to stay with Ash the next run or leave her for Liara.   Or maybe he'll leave Ash for Steve.  :innocent:  I already broke up with Tali in one run.  Don't want to do that again.  Even though Tali takes it very well and ends up with Garrus.  That works for me.  Too bad Kaidan didn't hook up with anyone.  Maybe he can hook up with Steve.  

@ Yugi
No, Liara only knows about Shepard cheating on her if you do the DLC after the SM.  If you do the DLC before the SM, you hadn't cheated on her yet.  So, she doesn't call you out on it.  As long as Liara's picture is up when you import, the file says you didn't romance anyone in ME2 even if you did and broke it off.  

I have a Shepard that cheated on Liara with Garrus.  Because you can pick which save file within the character file, I can choose which one to import.  I can't pull the trigger for the cheater portion of the file.  I tried a few weeks ago and couldn't do it.  Hell, I feel guilty being with Traynor with a non-import Shepard that has no LI.  

Modifié par ladyvader, 09 avril 2012 - 01:24 .

[Akernis]

Hi all!
One month of trying to catch up and over five hundred pages to go through.
 And to top it ogg my former profile (Pariah Culexus) refuse to function so i had to make a new one.

Before I go any futher I would just like to thank you guys, getting to feel better by reading this thread was my saving grace after the near traumatic experience of the ending. So Thanks!

Well on to business.

Tyranniac wrote...

1. When did your Shepard first fall for Liara?

2. Did you romance Liara on your first playthrough?

3. How did your Shepard feel about Liara's treatment of Shep on Illium? (pre-LotSB)

4. What did your Shepard tell Liara about how she/he felt in the cabin convo after LotSB? Worried/Hopeful/Frustrated?

5. Did your Shepard visit Liara before going back to Earth to stand trial?

6. Who are Liara's closest friends in your headcanon?

7. How many blue babies should there be? None? One? Five?

1. My Shepard (Kaelis) liked Liara from the moment he met her. It quickly something more through their conversations but I don't think he really realised that he was in love untill their first melding after the Cypher.

2. Unfortunately not. my first playthrough, flawed as it was was with Asley, accidenlty and much to my annoyance i might add. Then there was a couple of playthrough where I was not interested in romance. I was 17 and romance wasn't my thing back then. Then when I tried romancing again I chose Liara as I had come to really admire her and has truly loved her since then.

3. Personally i felt really bad, I thought that the liara I loved and adored was gone because I could not complete the Observer quest, I even played a new game where I romanced Tali for one playthrough (importing an unromanced Shepard I still loved liara far to much to ever cheat on her), then when I managed to complete the quest and see the real Liara again I returned to my blue & true love. 
Kaelis felt something similar, confused and hurt at her coldness and worried and concerned for her. When she revealed the real reason why and opened up to Shepard again he understood and became patient with her till she was ready.

4. Worried, Liara has shown that she is there to talk and Kaelis feels he can really be honest with her, so he told her how he had no idea of how to stop the reapers and not even sure if anythinghe did made a difference. In the end he was just glad that she was there with him.

5. Indeed, I headcanon that was the last thing he did before turning himself and the normandy over to the alliance; Spending the night with Liara while gaining emotional support was the thing that Kaelis needed after what happened at the Alpha Relay. I played LotSB last as I wanted to end on a happy note, even having the last save that was imported be where Kaelis stood with Liara on the SB ship, though in my mind arrival happened as the last thing before ME3 (escept far that night with Liara ).

6. Not counting Shepard I would say that it would be Garrus, though she had a very positive if not so close friendship with Tali and Kaiden, as well as respecting Wrex greatly. In my mind her friendship with feron was profesional but never personally close, thankful for his assitance that that he sacrificed himself to help her and then later as business as Feron became one of Liara's agents.

7. Possibly two, perhaps three. I have yet to find names for them, though. I was never a fan of naming children after someone but I imagine one would be named something along the lines of Shiala, not after her but because I really like the name in itself. No matter what I think all of them would have asari names and carry both the T'soni and Shepard last names.

And because I havn't seen enough blue lately.

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Hahah!! Success!!

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Thank you!

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ladyvader wrote...
@Lizardviking
Sounds like your Shepard is a lot like my angry single femShepard in ME2.  I do think Anderson trusted Shepard, he didn't trust Cerberus and that is why he didn't tell you everything you wanted to know.  Anderson also stone-walled the VS when they asked about Shepard. 

I just feel that it makes for a more satisfying story if Shepard and Liara clashes against each other on Illium, both of them love each other. But due to their viewpoints, they end up fighting.

It also makes LOTSB even carthatic.