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DevilBeast wrote...

danteliveson wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

She did..in ME3...because Shepard did it all for her!!!

The flatterer

You only get that if you romanced Liara in ME1.  I miss it with the other Shepard(s) that didn't romance her back then. 

That's gotta hurt.

And the important leason is: always romance Liara right from the beginning

Yep. Gotta learn from your mistakes

[speedy111280]

jlb524 wrote...

speedy111280 wrote...
I love Aethyta as Liara's father and I wanted more interaction between Liara and Aethyta just to see Liara get flustered. I bet Shepard would find it interesting since Aethyta manages to get Liara flustered and riled faster than anybody else has since Shepard first met her.

I'm betting Aethyta has some embarrassing photos of young Liara.

I dunno, Benezia sent them to her.

That's in my headcanon now.

gah, top

I would bet she probably does. Judging by Liara's conversation with Aethyta, Aethyta and Benezia seem to have kept in contact somewhat regularly after Benezia left Aethyta. Aethyta probably kept a closer watch on Liara when she was younger than Liara is aware of. So it kind of makes me want to know the real reason why Liara had never met Aethyta before since it seems it wasn't her choice that her and Liara had never met. It would be interesting to find out why Benezia kept her daughter in the dark about her father and seems to have refused to let Aethyta be a part of her life. Makes me curious to know if the story Aethyta tells about Benezia running off and the reason she gives Liara is the real reason.

[Yuqi]

Kilshrek wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

It's actually better if you pick the 'you cant give up' renegade line in this sequence. Liara says 'it's' difficult seeing you get shot at out there.'

Renegade does have it's perks..:innocent:It is also much better in french.

Has anyone noticed (and no, it's not an attck on fshep.) the influx of freckleshep/liara? I swear it's the colour thing..

And not on the merits of the freckles themselves?

I feel... disappointed.

Am I being subtly manipulated?!

I don't know it could be the freckles.(Coincidence she has prominent freckles like liara? I think not..) I dont know it's kind of weird but we might be being subtly manipulated, or  work infects me outside of work too.

[jlb524]

speedy111280 wrote...
I would bet she probably does. Judging by Liara's conversation with Aethyta, Aethyta and Benezia seem to have kept in contact somewhat regularly after Benezia left Aethyta. Aethyta probably kept a closer watch on Liara when she was younger than Liara is aware of. So it kind of makes me want to know the real reason why Liara had never met Aethyta before since it seems it wasn't her choice that her and Liara had never met. It would be interesting to find out why Benezia kept her daughter in the dark about her father and seems to have refused to let Aethyta be a part of her life. Makes me curious to know if the story Aethyta tells about Benezia running off and the reason she gives Liara is the real reason.

That's something I wouldn't mind an expanded story on.

I kind of wish Liara's comic will touch on this but I'm not sure if it will.

I can't think of a good reason.  Aethyta and Benezia parted based on philosophical differences.  I'm not sure why Benezia would deny Liara knowledge of her father based on that alone.  Maybe she didn't want Aethyta influencing Liara?  Still seems kind of extreme though.

[sillymonkboy]

I don't know how many of you have seen this fan-made ending before, but I just discovered it for the first time last night.  I'm posting it because all the Liara stuff towards the end made me tear up pretty bad. 

I was surprised at how emotionally evocative just having Liara kiss Shepard on the head can be.  It is really well done and my hats off to the creator.

[Yuqi]

sillymonkboy wrote...

I don't know how many of you have seen this fan-made ending before, but I just discovered it for the first time last night.  I'm posting it because all the Liara stuff towards the end made me tear up pretty bad. 

I was surprised at how emotionally evocative just having Liara kiss Shepard on the head can be.  It is really well done and my hats off to the creator.

Actually it was our very own neeh who made that.

jlb524 wrote...

speedy111280 wrote...
I would bet she probably does. Judging by Liara's conversation with Aethyta, Aethyta and Benezia seem to have kept in contact somewhat regularly after Benezia left Aethyta. Aethyta probably kept a closer watch on Liara when she was younger than Liara is aware of. So it kind of makes me want to know the real reason why Liara had never met Aethyta before since it seems it wasn't her choice that her and Liara had never met. It would be interesting to find out why Benezia kept her daughter in the dark about her father and seems to have refused to let Aethyta be a part of her life. Makes me curious to know if the story Aethyta tells about Benezia running off and the reason she gives Liara is the real reason.

That's something I wouldn't mind an expanded story on.

I kind of wish Liara's comic will touch on this but I'm not sure if it will.

I can't think of a good reason.  Aethyta and Benezia parted based on philosophical differences.  I'm not sure why Benezia would deny Liara knowledge of her father based on that alone.  Maybe she didn't want Aethyta influencing Liara?  Still seems kind of extreme though.

I always wondered about this. But with Atheyas personality and her love of fighting, and just her mannerisims in general.  It seems like she possibly had more of a commando/badass lifestyle.Maybe  Benezia  just didn't want her child to be exposed to such a lifestyle.

[adneate]

Yuqi wrote...
I always wondered about this. But with Atheyas personality and her love of fighting, and just her mannerisims in general.  It seems like she possibly had more of a commando/badass lifestyle.Maybe  Benezia  just didn't want her child to be exposed to such a lifestyle.

That seems likely to me, if you also factor in that whole "Super State Secret" with the beacon in the temple then Benezia might not just be trying to shield her daughter from a somewhat crass and unrefined Atheya but also her contempt for the established way of doing things. Atheya is a "Tear it all down and do something totally different" kind of Matriach whereas Benezia was much more "Establishment" from what I could tell, using way more tried and true Asari methods.

Plus who knows maybe she just didn't want little Liara learning how to use a switchblade, how to open a Salarians skull with the butt of an assault rifle or the best way to drink Turian whiskey without throwing up. Having kids can change a person in that regards.

[sillymonkboy]

Yuqi wrote...

sillymonkboy wrote...

I don't know how many of you have seen this fan-made ending before, but I just discovered it for the first time last night.  I'm posting it because all the Liara stuff towards the end made me tear up pretty bad. 

I was surprised at how emotionally evocative just having Liara kiss Shepard on the head can be.  It is really well done and my hats off to the creator.

Actually it was our very own neeh who made that.

Ah.  Historically, I haven't followed this, or any social thread much, but lately, for some reason, I am finding solace in the knowledge that there are other folks out there who appreciate Liara's character just as much as I do.

Anyway, back to lurking and seaching for more Liara.

Kudos again to Neeh.

[speedy111280]

jlb524 wrote...

That's something I wouldn't mind an expanded story on.

I kind of wish Liara's comic will touch on this but I'm not sure if it will.

I can't think of a good reason.  Aethyta and Benezia parted based on philosophical differences.  I'm not sure why Benezia would deny Liara knowledge of her father based on that alone.  Maybe she didn't want Aethyta influencing Liara?  Still seems kind of extreme though.

I would love a story about it too, though I doubt they'd put this in the comic. Which is too bad really because Aethyta would be entertaining to read about.

I just find it odd that Benezia kept them apart solely because of their philosophical differences. It doesn't seem like a good enough reason to me to keep a kid from knowing their father, especially because it made Liara wonder if her father was ashamed of her since she is a pureblood. I think Liara and Aethyta both deserved better because a lot of Liara's social interactions when we met her in ME1 seemed to be partly a result of both wondering if her own father was ashamed of her and being the daughter of such a well respected Matriarch like Benezia.

[jlb524]

 

sillymonkboy wrote...

I don't know how many of you have seen this fan-made ending before, but I just discovered it for the first time last night.  I'm posting it because all the Liara stuff towards the end made me tear up pretty bad. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]

I can't watch that or I'll start crying again, haha. 

Yuqi wrote...
I always wondered about this. But with Atheyas personality and her love of fighting, and just her mannerisims in general.  It seems like she possibly had more of a commando/badass lifestyle.Maybe  Benezia  just didn't want her child to be exposed to such a lifestyle.

Yeah, but I'm not sure how that justifies not allowing Aethyta to be a part of Liara's life at all.  I could understand if it resulting in Benezia getting full custody...but completely cutting off Aethyta seems extreme.

speedy111280 wrote...
I just find it odd that Benezia kept them apart solely because of their philosophical differences. It doesn't seem like a good enough reason to me to keep a kid from knowing their father, especially because it made Liara wonder if her father was ashamed of her since she is a pureblood. 

Maybe it had something to do with the pureblood thing but then why even tell Liara that her father was an asari if it's so shameful?

It's quite strange.

speedy111280 wrote... 
I think Liara and Aethyta both deserved better because a lot of Liara's social interactions when we met her in ME1 seemed to be partly a result of both wondering if her own father was ashamed of her and being the daughter of such a well respected Matriarch like Benezia.

Yeah...Benezia likes her secrets.  Perhaps that's why Liara is so private herself?  It might also be why Liara loves to dig up secrets (Protheans/Shadow Broker stuff/Shepard).

Modifié par jlb524, 09 avril 2012 - 03:46 .

[Yuqi]

adneate wrote...

Yuqi wrote...
I always wondered about this. But with Atheyas personality and her love of fighting, and just her mannerisims in general.  It seems like she possibly had more of a commando/badass lifestyle.Maybe  Benezia  just didn't want her child to be exposed to such a lifestyle.

That seems likely to me, if you also factor in that whole "Super State Secret" with the beacon in the temple then Benezia might not just be trying to shield her daughter from a somewhat crass and unrefined Atheya but also her contempt for the established way of doing things. Atheya is a "Tear it all down and do something totally different" kind of Matriach whereas Benezia was much more "Establishment" from what I could tell, using way more tried and true Asari methods.

Plus who knows maybe she just didn't want little Liara learning how to use a switchblade, how to open a Salarians skull with the butt of an assault rifle or the best way to drink Turian whiskey without throwing up. Having kids can change a person in that regards.

Actually if that's the case, maybe Liara (like her mother.) has a thing for the rough commando/soldier type. Haha that would make sense.

[yesikareyes]

I will buy anyone Bioware points if someone makes a fanart of my broshep/Liara


I'm totally dead serious.... 

Modifié par yesikareyes, 09 avril 2012 - 05:05 .

[Ziggy]

 

sillymonkboy wrote...

I don't know how many of you have seen this fan-made ending before, but I just discovered it for the first time last night.  I'm posting it because all the Liara stuff towards the end made me tear up pretty bad. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]

Wow I love that ending!! (stopping a bit b4 the end tho). 
Just beautiful.
Oh why oh why couldn't bioware have done something like that? 

[moreeman06]

So i go on a little date with Liara when i get off of work and i miss talk on Liara's relationships with her parents and freckles. and i miss references to Liara being the ME equivalent of Helen and Kilshrek talking like a gungan. God well before i get to bed I'll throw in my two cents

I like the Liara=Helen thing but then again my Shep is named after Roman General/Emperor Tiberius and one of their children is Medea

Its actually pretty likely that Benezia's influence on a young Liara affected her development and it makes sense from that point that Liara is the secret guarded type.

and now I'm gonna say goodnight please don't run away with the thread while i sleep

[Dendio1]

I picked liara everytime. She is a great character and one that really helped make mass effect what it is. Lucky me that shes one of the only characters that can't die, giving her alot of guaranteed screen time

Modifié par Dendio1, 09 avril 2012 - 04:48 .

[TheMarshal]

Yuqi wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

The flatterer

It's actually better if you pick the 'you cant give up' renegade line in this sequence. Liara says 'it's' difficult seeing you get shot at out there.'

Renegade does have it's perks..:innocent:It is also much better in french.

Has anyone noticed (and no, it's not an attck on fshep.) the influx of freckleshep/liara? I swear it's the colour thing..

Interesting...  do you have a link to that line of dialogue?  No matter how many times it happens, I always wind up surprised when a renegade dialogue option winds up being flirty and charming.

[ladyvader]

Dendio1 wrote...

I picked liara everytime. She is a great character and one that really helped make mass effect what it is. Lucky me that shes one of the only characters that can't die, giving her alot of guaranteed screen time

If your EMS is low enough and you have Liara with you for the final push, Liara can die.  The only character in game that never dies is Joker.

[ladyvader]

TheMarshal wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

Kilshrek wrote...

The flatterer

It's actually better if you pick the 'you cant give up' renegade line in this sequence. Liara says 'it's' difficult seeing you get shot at out there.'

Renegade does have it's perks..:innocent:It is also much better in french.

Has anyone noticed (and no, it's not an attck on fshep.) the influx of freckleshep/liara? I swear it's the colour thing..

Interesting...  do you have a link to that line of dialogue?  No matter how many times it happens, I always wind up surprised when a renegade dialogue option winds up being flirty and charming.

I have never renegade Liara if she is the LI or wanting her to be the LI (ME3).  I do have a renegade femShep with Liara.  After the patch is released, I might use her next.  Then I can renegade more and see the difference.  

I did renegade Liara during the cabin scene before hitting the Cerberus base after telling Liara there is no place I'd rather be, but the renegade part on that was wow.  Different and Liara didn't seem bothered by it.  Maybe she is getting more of a renagon than we realized.

[ladyvader]

jlb524 wrote...

speedy111280 wrote...
I would bet she probably does. Judging by Liara's conversation with Aethyta, Aethyta and Benezia seem to have kept in contact somewhat regularly after Benezia left Aethyta. Aethyta probably kept a closer watch on Liara when she was younger than Liara is aware of. So it kind of makes me want to know the real reason why Liara had never met Aethyta before since it seems it wasn't her choice that her and Liara had never met. It would be interesting to find out why Benezia kept her daughter in the dark about her father and seems to have refused to let Aethyta be a part of her life. Makes me curious to know if the story Aethyta tells about Benezia running off and the reason she gives Liara is the real reason.

That's something I wouldn't mind an expanded story on.

I kind of wish Liara's comic will touch on this but I'm not sure if it will.

I can't think of a good reason.  Aethyta and Benezia parted based on philosophical differences.  I'm not sure why Benezia would deny Liara knowledge of her father based on that alone.  Maybe she didn't want Aethyta influencing Liara?  Still seems kind of extreme though.

Maybe Liara was right when she commented to Shepard in ME1 that maybe Benezia was embarressed by her relationship with Aethyta and their break might not have been an easy one. 

Listen to the comments about purebloods when on Illium.  Some asari seem to hate them and feel they are a blight to their species.  That one was very negative about it.  It bothered me to listen to her, because it made me think of how nasty some might have been to Liara when she was growing up.

[speedy111280]

jlb524 wrote...
 

speedy111280 wrote...
I just find it odd that Benezia kept them apart solely because of their philosophical differences. It doesn't seem like a good enough reason to me to keep a kid from knowing their father, especially because it made Liara wonder if her father was ashamed of her since she is a pureblood. 

Maybe it had something to do with the pureblood thing but then why even tell Liara that her father was an asari if it's so shameful?

It's quite strange.

speedy111280 wrote... 
I think Liara and Aethyta both deserved better because a lot of Liara's social interactions when we met her in ME1 seemed to be partly a result of both wondering if her own father was ashamed of her and being the daughter of such a well respected Matriarch like Benezia.

Yeah...Benezia likes her secrets.  Perhaps that's why Liara is so private herself?  It might also be why Liara loves to dig up secrets (Protheans/Shadow Broker stuff/Shepard).

I can't really think of good reason for Benezia to keep them apart. I don't think it was because Aethyta is another Asari since Benezia made a concious choice to have Liara with Aethyta. Unless she changed her mind once she was pregnant with Liara and decided Aethyta wasn't good enough to raise a child with. Which despite the somewhat rough appearance of her personality I think Aethyta actually would have been a damn good parent to Liara.

It would make sense that Liara is so private because Benezia was. Benezia certainly seemed to keep a lot of important secrets from Liara. It probably helped spark Liara's curiosity at a young age. It would explain why she was digging for ruins in the park as a child. If you keep an important thing like a child's father a secret it could make the child naturally more curious, only with Liara it also made her think her father was ashamed of her so while she was naturally more curious that curiousity was turned toward things other than finding out who her father is. She definitely wondered but likely didn't ask Benezia many times after Benezia kept not answering her questions and turned her curiousity toward the "father" of the current galactic civilization, the Protheans.

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

Liara perceives the truth about the Asari people and Prothean, child have this power, not have limitation like adult, not close the eyes for politics and social motivation,child are pure, the Asari have denied the truth, Liara has ever found the truth, is the only one to have found the tracks about lost spicies.

[DarkCloudd]

So unfair all of the interesting conversations take place while I'm sleeping and my Android phone won't let me quote things. Oh well guess I will have to wait till I get home to pass along my answers to that set of questions.

[Cadwyn]

Tyranniac wrote...

1. When did your Shepard first fall for Liara?
2. Did you romance Liara on your first playthrough?
3. How did your Shepard feel about Liara's treatment of Shep on Illium? (pre-LotSB)
4. What did your Shepard tell Liara about how she/he felt in the cabin convo after LotSB? Worried/Hpeful/Frustrated?
5. Did your Shepard visit Liara before going back to Earth to stand trial?
6. Who are Liara's closest friends in your headcanon?
7. How many blue babies should there be? None? One? Five?

1. When Liara dig herself into a hole showing her "scientific" interest for Shepard, back in ME1. That cute scene made my femshep meld.

2. Yes, she was the one from day...one

3. Confused, and a bit heartbroken, but she kept holding on to her love for Liara.

4. Worried.

5. Of course

6. Garrus for sure and maybe Feron.

7. Two ? I'm not sure about this one though. I always thought that Shepard's "a lot of little blue children" line was sweet talking. Deep inside she knows that there's little hope for herself, that she'll eventually have to make the ultimate sacrifice. My femshep breathing under the pile of rubble is more like the last chance for Liara to hold her bondmate close to her heart and weep as she passes away.

Sorry to kill the vibe, but I'm a sucker for sad endings.

Neehs captured this moment the perfect way :

Modifié par Cadwyn, 09 avril 2012 - 07:15 .

[Yuqi]

yesikareyes wrote...

I will buy anyone Bioware points if someone makes a fanart of my broshep/Liara


I'm totally dead serious.... 

I would but alas, I have no talent.

@The Marshel
No, but Ihave seen it on youtube as well.Renegade is not completly pysco and evil in ME3. It felt more like shep was a focused millitary professional .Who was willing to do whatever it took, no matter the personal cost.

I have noticed something strange. What shep says in cutscnes,  changes according to whether they are more paragon or renegade. I wonder if it works like MOTA..(Or am I just crazy?)

There should be an option for a sarcastic shepard.Sarcasim interupt go!

[DashingSplash]

yesikareyes wrote...

I will buy anyone Bioware points if someone makes a fanart of my broshep/Liara


I'm totally dead serious.... 

I would do it for free.

I would need a screenshot of your Shepard though. Or the code for the face, so I can make it in the game myself.
I think I would prefer the latter if possible.

http://dashingsplash...t.com/#/d4uzbx0 
That is my latest fanart, and that is the quality I can bring to your picture. I would probably be able to capture Liaras face better. Been doing some sketches on her face and I'm starting to get familiar with it.

Just send over a PM and we could talk about it.