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[Luxure]

Artist Arilynazure

More blue babies!

[jlb524]

kumquats wrote...

As far as I understand the asari, that's pretty much normal maiden behaviour.
I think Liara's sister wanted to become an accountant. A polite... accountant.

Headbutting krogan?  I don't think that's normal maiden behavior.  

@Luxure

Nice pics.

wonder what that kid is trying to read.

Modifié par jlb524, 09 avril 2012 - 08:34 .

[Ajosraa]

I would assume that Asari are mechanicaly capable of reproducing as soon as they hit puberty..And I would assume it wouldent take TOO long for them to hit that point, or else that would put the entire species at risk if it took sooo long to reach sexual maturation. The Rate of replacement would be very low.

Also, about the Matron stage: Would you simply call Liara a matron after the fact of her giving birth? Because the codex mentions something along the lines that an Asari can choose when they go into the next stage...Or i read that if that Asari melds frequently it can trigger the next stage sooner then normal. So then the 350 year mark could be just the typical time that most Asari decide they partyed enough, and now they want to reproduce, get rid of their tatoos, and let their scalp return to its normal shade of blue, and find someone dependable...;P

Imo it would be like the human equivilant of being in your 30s, but you can still reproduce before then, if they really really wanted to (love) or had to (survival).

Modifié par Ajosraa, 09 avril 2012 - 08:37 .

[Tyranniac]

Apathy1989 wrote...

7) hmmm... 3? Would be depressing though, shepard dying so quickly. Part of me hopes that the implants from cerberus will keep him alive much longer than normal. Of course if I had to fantasize, maybe keep him alive forever, he was dead afterall. 

I do think the implants would increase Shepard's lifespan by an additional 100-150 years, and after that, the children would be all grown up since long, plus they'd still have their mother.

Kilshrek wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...

Okay, I'm heading off to London tomorrow, so... I'll just order everyone to stop posting for a week now,
so I won't have a bunch of pages to go through when I get back.

Well, you're welcome to catch up from my computer, if you ever find yourself on my side of London. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]

 

If you see someone with a Joker cap, it might be me. 

Kilshrek wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

That's a good point.  Maybe something bad happened to the other daughter and she lost the confidence to parent.

Perhaps she was a merc, aggressive sort, and headbutted the wrong krogan one day.

There's that. And there's that secret hope that the merc Wrex faced was Liara's half sister. That would make for an awesome reunion, and some outrageous anecdotes. Then having her sister hit on Shep. I have that wonderful family reunion playing in the theatre of my mind now.

 

This... would be very entertaining.

Luxure wrote...





Artist Arilynazure

More blue babies!

 

Can never be enough! :happy:

Ajosraa wrote...

I would assume that Asari are mechanicaly capable of reproducing as soon as they hit puberty..And I would assume it wouldent take TOO long for them to hit that point, or else that would put the entire species at risk if it took sooo long to reach sexual maturation. The Rate of replacement would be very low.

Also, about the Matron stage: Would you simply call Liara a matron after the fact of her giving birth? Because the codex mentions something along the lines that an Asari can choose when they go into the next stage...Or i read that if that Asari melds frequently it can trigger the next stage sooner then normal. So then the 350 year mark could be just the typical time that most Asari decide they partyed enough, and now they want to reproduce, get rid of their tatoos, and let their scalp return to its normal shade of blue, and find someone dependable...;P

 

I do believe that each individual asari can either choose, or have the matron stage triggered when they find someone to settle down with, so I don't think having children should be a problem.

Modifié par Tyranniac, 09 avril 2012 - 08:37 .

[Kilshrek]

Akernis wrote...

Didn't we come to the conclusion (several hundred pages back at least) that the merc that Wrex met was Aria. She mentions that she has been a commando before, has pissed off another dangerous krogan beyond Patriach before and even says "better luck next time" like Wrex's friend.

I really forget some of the things we talk about here. Mind like a sieve and all that. But.... nooooo, how much more interesting things would be if it was Liara's sister?

When did Aria say she ended up on Omega anyway? That crazy woman must've lived far too long.

[Kilshrek]

Tyranniac wrote...
If you see someone with a Joker cap, it might be me. 

Yes, I must first resist the urge to yell "Traitor!" and throttle you. But if that works out then it'll be high fives and all that.

Tyranniac wrote...
This... would be very entertaining.

Best family reunion, ever.


edit : brain farted and didn't edit the old post. Sorry.

Modifié par Kilshrek, 09 avril 2012 - 08:47 .

[Ajosraa]

Kilshrek wrote...

Akernis wrote...

Didn't we come to the conclusion (several hundred pages back at least) that the merc that Wrex met was Aria. She mentions that she has been a commando before, has pissed off another dangerous krogan beyond Patriach before and even says "better luck next time" like Wrex's friend.

I really forget some of the things we talk about here. Mind like a sieve and all that. But.... nooooo, how much more interesting things would be if it was Liara's sister?

When did Aria say she ended up on Omega anyway? That crazy woman must've lived far too long.

For some reason i want to say about 300 years ago...with Patriarch ( the last leader of Omega)

Modifié par Ajosraa, 09 avril 2012 - 08:51 .

[Sunnie]

lol.. I feel like Shepard telling the Council that Saren is a rogue and that Reapers are what the real threat is.

My opinions on Asari reproduction are based off of published lore, none of which indicate anywhere that they can reproduce at such a young age. I'm curious how some of you come to the conclusion that they are capable of reproduction at the such an early stage of their life, because it sounds a lot like more space magic than based on any lore or facts.

[ladyvader]

Arcataye wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

kumquats wrote...

Do you mean: this ?
You have to ask Arcataye. Pretty please, make it a gif. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/w00t.png[/smilie]

Yes.  
Please, Arcataye, make a gif.  Please. 

Did you mean like this?

Yes, Thank you so much. 

I love doing that.  Nothing like showing dominance over a krogon like a good ol' headbutt.

[Tyranniac]

Sunnie22 wrote...

lol.. I feel like Shepard telling the Council that Saren is a rogue and that Reapers are what the real threat is.

My opinions on Asari reproduction are based off of published lore, none of which indicate anywhere that they can reproduce at such a young age. I'm curious how some of you come to the conclusion that they are capable of reproduction at the such an early stage of their life, because it sounds a lot like more space magic than based on any lore or facts.

Pessimistic, aren't we?

It seems very unlikely that the asari life stages are bound strictly to how long the asari has been alive, to me it seems like what the codex has supplied is just numbers on when it usually happens. Is it really that strange to think the stages trigger when appropriate conditions are met? (Such as stability, a home and suitable partner for matron stage.)

Also, I really don't think Shepard and Liara would have the dialogue involving future children if it wasn't possible, even if isn't to be taken as a serious suggestion at that time.

[kumquats]

jlb524 wrote...

kumquats wrote...

As far as I understand the asari, that's pretty much normal maiden behaviour.
I think Liara's sister wanted to become an accountant. A polite... accountant.

Headbutting krogan?  I don't think that's normal maiden behavior.  

Maybe not, but I don't think Aethyta wouldn't approve of that behaviour. ^^

[jlb524]

Sunnie22 wrote...
My opinions on Asari reproduction are based off of published lore, none of which indicate anywhere that they can reproduce at such a young age. I'm curious how some of you come to the conclusion that they are capable of reproduction at the such an early stage of their life, because it sounds a lot like more space magic than based on any lore or facts.

Well, the one novel written by Drew states that an asari character in her maiden stage is too young to have kids.  That's all we got, really.  You are considering that source too, right?

kumquats wrote...

Maybe not, but I don't think Aethyta wouldn't approve of that behaviour. ^^

Exactly my point!

1)  Aethyta encourages headbutting.
2)  Hanar daughter "Hani" headbutts krogan.
3)  Krogan retaliates and Hani ends up in hospital for months.
4)  Aethyta loses faith in her parenting ability.

It's a tragic tale.

Modifié par jlb524, 09 avril 2012 - 09:02 .

[Wulfram]

The Asari can't have evolved naturally to only reproduce after centuries - that sort of thing could only be viable with very safe and secure lives.

So I tend to believe it is possible for her to have children. Though I'm biased because my head canon still has Shep dead, so waiting for Liara to get older doesn't really work.

[Kilshrek]

Ajosraa wrote...

For some reason i want to say about 300 years ago...with Patriarch ( the last leader of Omega)

Probably right, didn't Aria also have a daughter? Who got murdered or something. Most asari seem to have only one or two children.

jlb524 wrote...

Exactly my point!

1)  Aethyta encourages headbutting.
2)  Hanar daughter "Hani" headbutts krogan.
3)  Krogan retaliates and Hani ends up in hospital for months.
4)  Aethyta loses faith in her parenting ability.

It's a tragic tale.

Clearly the quarter krogan in her was much stronger than the half hanar part. At least she didn't talk funny, consider it a blessing.

Modifié par Kilshrek, 09 avril 2012 - 09:07 .

[ladyvader]

Dude on Fire wrote...

Super-excited since my original face-code now has been imported correctly! He looks like a monkey from the side, but hell, love my Blake Shepard!

No screenie though.

I have to wait until tomorrow.    I am tired of recreating Sheaprd(s).  Now to redo ME1 and ME2 to get the run I want for Leia in ME3 and I'll be all set.  

[Sunnie]

Tyranniac wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

lol.. I feel like Shepard telling the Council that Saren is a rogue and that Reapers are what the real threat is.

My opinions on Asari reproduction are based off of published lore, none of which indicate anywhere that they can reproduce at such a young age. I'm curious how some of you come to the conclusion that they are capable of reproduction at the such an early stage of their life, because it sounds a lot like more space magic than based on any lore or facts.

Pessimistic, aren't we?

It seems very unlikely that the asari life stages are bound strictly to how long the asari has been alive, to me it seems like what the codex has supplied is just numbers on when it usually happens. Is it really that strange to think the stages trigger when appropriate conditions are met? (Such as stability, a home and suitable partner for matron stage.)

Also, I really don't think Shepard and Liara would have the dialogue involving future children if it wasn't possible, even if isn't to be taken as a serious suggestion at that time.

Pessimistic? Really? That's pretty insulting.
Again, where is any hard data or evidence for your observation, or is it hope? You aren't providing any citation or validation for your opinion at all. If you just want to attribute it to more Space Magic ™, then just say so and continue believing what you will. I tend to base my opinions on referencable facts/lore and observations, there's there's nothing pessimistic about that..

jlb524 wrote...
Well, the one novel written by Drew states that an asari character in her maiden stage is too young to have kids. That's all we got, really. You are considering that source too, right?

Though I didn't reference that specifically, yes, I am.

[Ajosraa]

My opinion is also based off of published lore...the thing is, published lore is a bit left open. But the game isent real so its all space magic;P

In the codex stages technically indicate "biological tendincies", not "capability". And I was using the anologies of human women and typical relative ages of family making, but also stating that the pattern isent always followed...as it may be with Asari. Thats why I compared it (asari around 350) to being like in your 30s...because from what ive seen most humans tend to start familys by then..like the "Matron" stage for asari.

Also, why would Liara have any sexual interest in you if she was incapable of reproduction? Wouldent that machinery have to be formed in order for her to even think something is "sexy" ?
I would think she would even be put off by the "and a lot of little blue children" line...if she was basicly "Underage" but she dident seem to have a problem with it.

but ya...as far as Asari go...It would be considered a realatively young pregnancy still I guess...

Asari reproduction...one of the great Cosmic mysteries;P

when it comes down to it though, I think most imagine her and our Shepards' with a baby so soon just because we want one:) and it would be awww. I want one too;P

Modifié par Ajosraa, 09 avril 2012 - 09:16 .

[ladyvader]

Sunnie22 wrote...

lol.. I feel like Shepard telling the Council that Saren is a rogue and that Reapers are what the real threat is.

My opinions on Asari reproduction are based off of published lore, none of which indicate anywhere that they can reproduce at such a young age. I'm curious how some of you come to the conclusion that they are capable of reproduction at the such an early stage of their life, because it sounds a lot like more space magic than based on any lore or facts.

The lore you get it from is a novel.  Not everyone has read them.  It does not state in the codex when they can have children.  It says Matrons want to settle down and raise a family.  To me that does not mean they have to be a matron to have children, just when they feel they want to start having them.

Wanting children and being able to reproduce are two different things.

[The Lightspeaker]

Sunnie22 wrote...

lol.. I feel like Shepard telling the Council that Saren is a rogue and that Reapers are what the real threat is.

My opinions on Asari reproduction are based off of published lore, none of which indicate anywhere that they can reproduce at such a young age. I'm curious how some of you come to the conclusion that they are capable of reproduction at the such an early stage of their life, because it sounds a lot like more space magic than based on any lore or facts.

Pretty much none of the in-game lore actually covers asari child bearing age. Everyone is reading the same stuff but drawing different conclusions.

For example: the codex article you posted is ambiguous. There is a massive, massive difference between what is specified there "this stage is marked by a desire to settle in one area and raise children" and actually stating the child-bearing age.

In fact I could say the exact same thing back to you here. My opinions on their reproduction are based on the published lore I've read. When I started reading here I was genuine surprised and curious about how some people have jumped to the conclusion that the asari age of reproduction is directly tied into the "life stages" stuff. Its quite a big leap of faith.

Modifié par The Lightspeaker, 09 avril 2012 - 09:17 .

[kumquats]

jlb524 wrote...
Exactly my point!

1)  Aethyta encourages headbutting.
2)  Hanar daughter "Hani" headbutts krogan.
3)  Krogan retaliates and Hani ends up in hospital for months.
4)  Aethyta loses faith in her parenting ability.

It's a tragic tale.

Wow. Poor Hani...maybe her parents had a terrible, but extremely polite falling out, after that.

I have to meet Liara's sister in a DLC. Please BW.

[Tyranniac]

Sunnie22 wrote...

Pessimistic? Really? That's pretty insulting.
Again, where is any hard data or evidence for your observation, or is it hope? You aren't providing any citation or validation for your opinion at all. If you just want to attribute it to more Space Magic ™, then just say so and continue believing what you will. I tend to base my opinions on referencable facts/lore and observations, there's there's nothing pessimistic about that..

I never intended to be insulting in any way.

I based what I said in the available information just like you. Please be aware that I am offended by you saying I would explain anything by Space Magic.

[ladyvader]

kumquats wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
Exactly my point!

1)  Aethyta encourages headbutting.
2)  Hanar daughter "Hani" headbutts krogan.
3)  Krogan retaliates and Hani ends up in hospital for months.
4)  Aethyta loses faith in her parenting ability.

It's a tragic tale.

Wow. Poor Hani...maybe her parents had a terrible, but extremely polite falling out, after that.

I have to meet Liara's sister in a DLC. Please BW.

For all we know, we probably have.  If Aethtya's mercs were Eclipse.....

[The Lightspeaker]

On a side note...I question the usefulness of people trying to demolish each other's headcanon. Isn't the ending depressing enough without getting into rows about that?


Edit: Eh...top. Gimme a min.

Edit2: Disdainful Liara is disdainful:

Modifié par The Lightspeaker, 09 avril 2012 - 09:25 .

[Ajosraa]

And i think Asari puberty happens around age 40...I swear i remember Samara talking about this...something about how the Ardat-Yakshi strain ususally shows itself around "Puberty"

The Codex for Ardat-Yakshi here, the strain isent found untill "Maturity". Second Paragraph.
http://masseffect.wi...ki/Ardat-Yakshi

But...with that said i dont mean to try to change anyone elses Headcannon, as I may be coming accross after reading the above paragraph. I know for sure we all have our passionate issues surrounding Liara

Modifié par Ajosraa, 09 avril 2012 - 09:29 .