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[FRANCESCO84Inn]

@Ladyvade : all my Female Sheaprd have talk to Wrex in ME1, i have listened all the dialogue, and i'm take Liara and Wrex for many quest, and in ME2 Wrex is so heppy to watch Shepard on Tuchanca, and calls Shepard friends,

i watch the same happiness and gratitude in ME3, Wrex not is like the other Krogan, she is different, fight for give to all Korgan one best future .

Modifié par FRANCESCO84Inn, 15 avril 2012 - 06:56 .

[ladyvader]

fat slug wrote...

The Lightspeaker wrote...

...you do know you don't actually recruit Wrex in ME2? Its always Grunt.

Yes. I know but I aparrently talked about Grunt when I meant Wreav and recruiting grunt replaced Wrex as a friend so it made killing wrex easier. And in the end sabotaging cure and getting salarian help is better choice. Omg I think I am just making this harder to understand so forget it.

No, the best way is for Wrex to be dead and destroying the genophage data which causes Eve to die as well.  That way you can talk Mordin into walking away because of Wreav.  You get both krogan and salarian support.  Wreav never finds out.  

I'd rather have Wrex than Wreav.  War assets be damned.  The salarians want to be stupid about it, then I'll let them.  Wrex is smart.  Wants more for his people than fighting.  Wreav only cares about figthing and it will destroy the krogan in the end.

Grunt is a friend because Shepard let him out of the tank and got him though his rite of passage so he could have a clan.  Don't need Wrex dead to have Grunt be your friend.


What Leia Shepard thinks of Wrex being dead:

Modifié par ladyvader, 15 avril 2012 - 06:42 .

[greggm2000]

Arcataye wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
She doesn't take relationships lightly at all and wants to make extra sure Shepard is just as serious about it.  I think that's why she's more hesitant with cheater Shepard during the final love scene as far as declaring feelings of love and all that.  IMO, that makes the loyal Shep scene more poignant as she shows her she's finally ready to give herself completely to the relationship.

And the next day Shepard is gone and Liara is lost in space.... :crying:

I'm still pretty sure that Shep is on the Normandy at that point. Liara wouldn't look happy like she does, if Shep wasn't nearby.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

ladyvader wrote...

What Leia Shepard thinks of Wrex being dead:

I almost feel sorry for the shadow broker now!

[ladyvader]

Lizardviking wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

What Leia Shepard thinks of Wrex being dead:

I almost feel sorry for the shadow broker now!

I don't.  Leia and Liara killed that SOB.   I don't think Liara wants to see a yahg ever again.  Link

Edit To Add:The salarians don't want the genophage cure because of them uplifting the krogan, but they don't seem to learn from their mistakes.  With them trying to uplift the yahg.  Not a smart idea. 

Modifié par ladyvader, 15 avril 2012 - 07:14 .

[Robhuzz]

greggm2000 wrote...

Arcataye wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
She doesn't take relationships lightly at all and wants to make extra sure Shepard is just as serious about it.  I think that's why she's more hesitant with cheater Shepard during the final love scene as far as declaring feelings of love and all that.  IMO, that makes the loyal Shep scene more poignant as she shows her she's finally ready to give herself completely to the relationship.

And the next day Shepard is gone and Liara is lost in space.... :crying:

I'm still pretty sure that Shep is on the Normandy at that point. Liara wouldn't look happy like she does, if Shep wasn't nearby.

Sounds logical. If Liara teleported to the Normandy, why not Shepard?

[greggm2000]

Robhuzz wrote...

greggm2000 wrote...

Arcataye wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
She doesn't take relationships lightly at all and wants to make extra sure Shepard is just as serious about it.  I think that's why she's more hesitant with cheater Shepard during the final love scene as far as declaring feelings of love and all that.  IMO, that makes the loyal Shep scene more poignant as she shows her she's finally ready to give herself completely to the relationship.

And the next day Shepard is gone and Liara is lost in space.... :crying:

I'm still pretty sure that Shep is on the Normandy at that point. Liara wouldn't look happy like she does, if Shep wasn't nearby.

Sounds logical. If Liara teleported to the Normandy, why not Shepard?

Indeed   Though I think it's more a case of Bioware being sneaky with the order of the cutscenes, to have the maximal cliffhanger impact. Of course it backfired, but...

I do expect there was a "Shep rescue" scene before the "relays blow up" scene... which might even be made explicit, when the ending DLC is released.

[ladyvader]

Robhuzz wrote...

greggm2000 wrote...

Arcataye wrote...

jlb524 wrote...
She doesn't take relationships lightly at all and wants to make extra sure Shepard is just as serious about it.  I think that's why she's more hesitant with cheater Shepard during the final love scene as far as declaring feelings of love and all that.  IMO, that makes the loyal Shep scene more poignant as she shows her she's finally ready to give herself completely to the relationship.

And the next day Shepard is gone and Liara is lost in space.... :crying:

I'm still pretty sure that Shep is on the Normandy at that point. Liara wouldn't look happy like she does, if Shep wasn't nearby.

Sounds logical. If Liara teleported to the Normandy, why not Shepard?

That only works with the destroy ending. 

[DOsquareZER]

Scrounging through tumblr... classic art meets mass effect photo manips (oh the humanity!). Linking link because there's a pair of ...chest bumps. But seeing Liara in this one makes me laugh.
http://28.media.tumb...4x05o1_1280.png

and havnt you heard, during the entire ordeal of ME3 while you were busy with teh reapers -  joker,traynor, and the engineering team (scotty included) were busy installing a secret star trek teleportation device.  Shepard forgot to pick up her comm. badge on the way out the door though... *sighs* couldn't get a lock on her.

Modifié par doozer12, 15 avril 2012 - 07:22 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

ladyvader wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

What Leia Shepard thinks of Wrex being dead:

I almost feel sorry for the shadow broker now!

I don't.  Leia and Liara killed that SOB.   I don't think Liara wants to see a yahg ever again.  Link

Edit To Add:The salarians don't want the genophage cure because of them uplifting the krogan, but they don't seem to learn from their mistakes.  With them trying to uplift the yahg.  Not a smart idea. 

Shepard should have brought Liara a Yagh plushie! 

[speedy111280]

jlb524 wrote...

Yeah, Liara's just a very private person and I think she becomes moreso aftter becoming the Broker.  She's just not publicly affectionate in general (and it's not just with Shepard but her good friends too...no bro-hugs from her).  I mean, she didn't even show that much towards her mother while she was dying.

That's it exactly. Liara doesn't really strike me as the PDA type, which is why I was really pleased with how much touching the two of them did throughout the game, especially since Liara has actually become even more private since taking over as the Shadow Broker. I do wish we could get more info about Liara's relationship with Benezia though because I've been curious about that since Noveria. I have wondered if Liara's private nature is her reaction to
being a Matriatch's daughter (and a pureblood at that) or if it was something she was taught by Benezia.

[Sunnie]

greggm2000 wrote...

Indeed   Though I think it's more a case of Bioware being sneaky with the order of the cutscenes, to have the maximal cliffhanger impact. Of course it backfired, but...

Herein lies the biggest problem with the ending in my opinion. They ended the series with a cliffhanger. lolwut!? Theres not going to be another game that continues where ME3 left off. So ending a long series with a cliffhanger not only makes no sense, but translates to just plain lazy.

[DOsquareZER]

Sunnie22 wrote...

greggm2000 wrote...

Indeed   Though I think it's more a case of Bioware being sneaky with the order of the cutscenes, to have the maximal cliffhanger impact. Of course it backfired, but...

Herein lies the biggest problem with the ending in my opinion. They ended the series with a cliffhanger. lolwut!? Theres not going to be another game that continues where ME3 left off. So ending a long series with a cliffhanger not only makes no sense, but translates to just plain lazy.

Not meant to be  a cliffhanger. It was meant for open Interpretation!  YOU fill in the holes (with vague ''evidence'' and shakey information that would never hold up in court...nvm head canon).  They didn't know how to end it, so they made you do it for them - and claim artistic B.S when you called them out on it.  Love how their story is your story is their story cycle they just did there  (did that make sense?).  They just...didn't do that sort of ending very well.  And im not giving them any gold stars for attempting it.

Modifié par doozer12, 15 avril 2012 - 07:32 .

[ladyvader]

Sunnie22 wrote...

greggm2000 wrote...

Indeed   Though I think it's more a case of Bioware being sneaky with the order of the cutscenes, to have the maximal cliffhanger impact. Of course it backfired, but...

Herein lies the biggest problem with the ending in my opinion. They ended the series with a cliffhanger. lolwut!? Theres not going to be another game that continues where ME3 left off. So ending a long series with a cliffhanger not only makes no sense, but translates to just plain lazy.

They, the devs, have never said this was the last Mass Effect game, just the end to Shepard's story.  2/3 endings Shepard is dead.  Where is cliffhanger in that?  

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

ladyvader wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

greggm2000 wrote...

Indeed   Though I think it's more a case of Bioware being sneaky with the order of the cutscenes, to have the maximal cliffhanger impact. Of course it backfired, but...

Herein lies the biggest problem with the ending in my opinion. They ended the series with a cliffhanger. lolwut!? Theres not going to be another game that continues where ME3 left off. So ending a long series with a cliffhanger not only makes no sense, but translates to just plain lazy.

They, the devs, have never said this was the last Mass Effect game, just the end to Shepard's story.  2/3 endings Shepard is dead.  Where is cliffhanger in that?  

Cliffhanger or not. The fact is that Bioware ended the trilogy without any closure what so ever, the only thing might be Shepard's fate in control and synthesis.

[greggm2000]

doozer12 wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

greggm2000 wrote...

Indeed   Though I think it's more a case of Bioware being sneaky with the order of the cutscenes, to have the maximal cliffhanger impact. Of course it backfired, but...

Herein lies the biggest problem with the ending in my opinion. They ended the series with a cliffhanger. lolwut!? Theres not going to be another game that continues where ME3 left off. So ending a long series with a cliffhanger not only makes no sense, but translates to just plain lazy.

Not meant to be  a cliffhanger. It was meant for open Interpretation!  YOU fill in the holes.  They didn't know how to end it, so they made you do it for them.  They just...didn't do that sort of ending very well.  And im not giving them any gold stars for attempting it.

Me either. Maybe they were planning on filling the gap with paid DLC later? Wouldn't surprise me. Fortunately enough people complained that at least we'll get closure with the upcoming ending DLC..... or so they've said. Will they mess that up too? Time will tell. Hopefully "closure" = what we all want to see as far as Liara goes.

[ladyvader]

greggm2000 wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

greggm2000 wrote...

Indeed   Though I think it's more a case of Bioware being sneaky with the order of the cutscenes, to have the maximal cliffhanger impact. Of course it backfired, but...

Herein lies the biggest problem with the ending in my opinion. They ended the series with a cliffhanger. lolwut!? Theres not going to be another game that continues where ME3 left off. So ending a long series with a cliffhanger not only makes no sense, but translates to just plain lazy.

Not meant to be  a cliffhanger. It was meant for open Interpretation!  YOU fill in the holes.  They didn't know how to end it, so they made you do it for them.  They just...didn't do that sort of ending very well.  And im not giving them any gold stars for attempting it.

Me either. Maybe they were planning on filling the gap with paid DLC later? Wouldn't surprise me. Fortunately enough people complained that at least we'll get closure with the upcoming ending DLC..... or so they've said. Will they mess that up too? Time will tell. Hopefully "closure" = what we all want to see as far as Liara goes.

Don't get your hopes up or you may very well be disappointed.  I have both Meer and Hale on twitter and neither one has commented about going into the studio to record anything for ME3.  They might not need VO work done yet, just saying.

[MaroAlighieri]

doozer wrote...

Scrounging through tumblr... classic art meets mass effect photo manips (oh the humanity!). Linking link because there's a pair of ...chest bumps. But seeing Liara in this one makes me laugh.
http://28.media.tumb...4x05o1_1280.png

Hahahahaha. Oh god what the hell. That made my afternoon.

[Sunnie]

doozer12 wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

greggm2000 wrote...

Indeed   Though I think it's more a case of Bioware being sneaky with the order of the cutscenes, to have the maximal cliffhanger impact. Of course it backfired, but...

Herein lies the biggest problem with the ending in my opinion. They ended the series with a cliffhanger. lolwut!? Theres not going to be another game that continues where ME3 left off. So ending a long series with a cliffhanger not only makes no sense, but translates to just plain lazy.

Not meant to be  a cliffhanger. It was meant for open Interpretation!  YOU fill in the holes (with vague ''evidence'' and shakey information that would never hold up in court...nvm head canon).  They didn't know how to end it, so they made you do it for them - and claim artistic B.S when you called them out on it.  Love how their story is your story is their story cycle they just did there  (did that make sense?).  They just...didn't do that sort of ending very well.  And im not giving them any gold stars for attempting it.

ladyvader wrote...
They, the devs, have never said this was
the last Mass Effect game, just the end to Shepard's story.  2/3 endings
Shepard is dead.  Where is cliffhanger in that?  

The cliffhanger is in the Destroy option, that final scene was a classic cliffhanger, the type used a lot in games and movies.

The whole "open interpretation" excuse is just that, an excuse for 2 guys locking themselves in a room and sloppily ending a popular series with a pile of crap that nobody else had input on.
Of course, this is just my opinion and I am not trying to convince anyone they should change their opinion should it conflict with mine.

Modifié par Sunnie22, 15 avril 2012 - 07:43 .

[greggm2000]

ladyvader wrote...

greggm2000 wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

greggm2000 wrote...

Indeed   Though I think it's more a case of Bioware being sneaky with the order of the cutscenes, to have the maximal cliffhanger impact. Of course it backfired, but...

Herein lies the biggest problem with the ending in my opinion. They ended the series with a cliffhanger. lolwut!? Theres not going to be another game that continues where ME3 left off. So ending a long series with a cliffhanger not only makes no sense, but translates to just plain lazy.

Not meant to be  a cliffhanger. It was meant for open Interpretation!  YOU fill in the holes.  They didn't know how to end it, so they made you do it for them.  They just...didn't do that sort of ending very well.  And im not giving them any gold stars for attempting it.

Me either. Maybe they were planning on filling the gap with paid DLC later? Wouldn't surprise me. Fortunately enough people complained that at least we'll get closure with the upcoming ending DLC..... or so they've said. Will they mess that up too? Time will tell. Hopefully "closure" = what we all want to see as far as Liara goes.

Don't get your hopes up or you may very well be disappointed.  I have both Meer and Hale on twitter and neither one has commented about going into the studio to record anything for ME3.  They might not need VO work done yet, just saying.

True. Having been burnt once (the ending), I'm not expecting much of anything, while hoping to be pleasantly surprised. We know they have it in them to do a fantastic job, but will they?

True, they haven't... though I think someone else (Gamble? Priestly?) hinted that they will be. Makes sense though, first they've got to design and write the thing, and only once they have the lines figured out will they then need the voice actors.

[Wulfram]

ladyvader wrote...

Like Wrex saying Liara got a window because she a better kisser.  LMAO @ Wrex.  I love Shep's comment of "No comment".

Considering the way he flirts with Liara on Sur'kesh, Shep could get jealous

[ladyvader]

Sunnie22 wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

greggm2000 wrote...

Indeed   Though I think it's more a case of Bioware being sneaky with the order of the cutscenes, to have the maximal cliffhanger impact. Of course it backfired, but...

Herein lies the biggest problem with the ending in my opinion. They ended the series with a cliffhanger. lolwut!? Theres not going to be another game that continues where ME3 left off. So ending a long series with a cliffhanger not only makes no sense, but translates to just plain lazy.

Not meant to be  a cliffhanger. It was meant for open Interpretation!  YOU fill in the holes (with vague ''evidence'' and shakey information that would never hold up in court...nvm head canon).  They didn't know how to end it, so they made you do it for them - and claim artistic B.S when you called them out on it.  Love how their story is your story is their story cycle they just did there  (did that make sense?).  They just...didn't do that sort of ending very well.  And im not giving them any gold stars for attempting it.

ladyvader wrote...
They, the devs, have never said this was
the last Mass Effect game, just the end to Shepard's story.  2/3 endings
Shepard is dead.  Where is cliffhanger in that?  

The cliffhanger is in the Destroy option, that final scene was a classic cliffhanger, the type used a lot in games and movies.

The whole "open interpretation" excuse is just that, an excuse for 2 guys locking themselves in a room and sloppily ending a popular series with a pile of crap that nobody else had input on.
Of course, this is just my opinion and I am not trying to convince anyone they should change their opinion should it conflict with mine.

I agree with the destroy ending being the cliffhanger.  They would have been better off letting Shepard die there too.  It makes less sense for Shep to survive this explosion...

,,, than it would if Shepard died.

How do you survive that with the compromised armor Shepard was wearing.  Plus Shepard was bleeding out and I honest thought she died before she talked to starboy.

[Erenbe]

 Wrraaagh....where is the Renegade interrupt when Jacob tells me I can't have a life with a family? Crowbar to the face would be the perfect response I would say! Idiot!! <_<


This is how I want it!!


With a lactose intolerant blue baby that isn't allowed to look at cheeseballs with flags or plasmids! 

Modifié par Erenbe, 15 avril 2012 - 07:57 .

[greggm2000]

ladyvader wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

doozer12 wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

greggm2000 wrote...

Indeed   Though I think it's more a case of Bioware being sneaky with the order of the cutscenes, to have the maximal cliffhanger impact. Of course it backfired, but...

Herein lies the biggest problem with the ending in my opinion. They ended the series with a cliffhanger. lolwut!? Theres not going to be another game that continues where ME3 left off. So ending a long series with a cliffhanger not only makes no sense, but translates to just plain lazy.

Not meant to be  a cliffhanger. It was meant for open Interpretation!  YOU fill in the holes (with vague ''evidence'' and shakey information that would never hold up in court...nvm head canon).  They didn't know how to end it, so they made you do it for them - and claim artistic B.S when you called them out on it.  Love how their story is your story is their story cycle they just did there  (did that make sense?).  They just...didn't do that sort of ending very well.  And im not giving them any gold stars for attempting it.

ladyvader wrote...
They, the devs, have never said this was
the last Mass Effect game, just the end to Shepard's story.  2/3 endings
Shepard is dead.  Where is cliffhanger in that?  

The cliffhanger is in the Destroy option, that final scene was a classic cliffhanger, the type used a lot in games and movies.

The whole "open interpretation" excuse is just that, an excuse for 2 guys locking themselves in a room and sloppily ending a popular series with a pile of crap that nobody else had input on.
Of course, this is just my opinion and I am not trying to convince anyone they should change their opinion should it conflict with mine.

I agree with the destroy ending being the cliffhanger.  They would have been better off letting Shepard die there too.  It makes less sense for Shep to survive this explosion...

,,, than it would if Shepard died.

How do you survive that with the compromised armor Shepard was wearing.  Plus Shepard was bleeding out and I honest thought she died before she talked to starboy.

Could be that was just a blast, and a few seconds later, there might have not been any fire. Sure, Shep would have been burnt, but...

Ah, but notice that Shep was bleeding out when she was trying to reach the console, but somewhat (magically) healed when she was talking to the godchild? Could be sloppy editing, or could have been deliberate and hinting at any number of things. Regardless, we know that in at least one case, Shep definitely survives. I'm sure there's logic that supports that, even if it's based on things that haven't been shown to us yet.