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[Pockles]

Lizardviking wrote...

Pockles wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...
Tela V'asir is easily the best boss fight in the entire trilogy - she actually feels like an equal to Shepard - something Captain Crunch can only dream of - and has some good taunts for him while she's fighting him. Not to mention she's a fun, challenging fight, with the way she zips around the battlefield and is actually just as aggressive as Shepard can be. Even outside of the fight, she maintains her strength - she actually gets a shot in on Shepard so good, he really doesn't have a good response to her - when she's dying and she calls Shepard out for being a hypocrite with Cerberus, and Shepard just has a weak response. Really, she was a great character. I personally would've loved if she survived LotSB to be the rival antagonist in ME3 instead of Lucky Charms.

Tela Vasir was a cancerous growth on an otherwise fun DLC.

How so? She had actual character and motivation. Compared to TIM who was lolindoctrinated and Kai Leng who was a cardbord cutout villain sue with a sword.

Because Bioware forces us to trust her, even though we have every reason not to. She couldn't be more suspicious if she was wringing her hands and cackling madly with sinister background music. She accuses Shepard of being a terrorist while she's blowing up buildings and taking hostages.

Maybe she just annoys me because Bioware railroaded me into working with Cerberus, then had a character tell me how much of a hypocrite I am for it. I prefer if people call me out on actual choices I made, and not things I was forced to do. Like with Maelon's data. In ME3 Wrex was angry with me because I destroyed it. I was fine with that, because I could have saved it, but I didn't. Vasir berated me for a decision I didn't even make.

Extremely late reply. Sorry.

[M0keys]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

M0keys wrote...
Quick question to all Liara fans: What did Shepard's life with Liara look like to you after ME3? What were you expecting? Where did they end up in your head?

Yes :

Thank you!

Alright, then. Now that I understand your question better, I'll answer a bit more, too. What I wanted isn't too different from what I expected. Pretty much, I wanted Shepard and Liara to be able to survive the series, and I wanted the galactic community to remain intact.

I wanted them to go back to Thessia afterwards to retire, and get a normal life. Shep and Liara talk about it sometimes throughout the series, but they never actually really get to rest much.

You only get a small glimpse at Liara having a normal life, when you play Lair of the Shadow Broker, and you see her apartment. As I said earlier in the thread, I loved getting a chance to really just get a look at what casual, every day life would be like on an alien planet, especially an Asari one, and her apartment was that glimpse.

So I'd want an epilogue to show me more of that, through Shep/Liara enjoying themselves and eachother's company, somewhere on Thessia. Especially since you don't actually get to see much of Thessia. An epilogue here would also be another chance to see Thessia fleshed out, through them.

You could even include a final romance scene in this epilogue, since you'd have to actually have worked to get Shep/Liara to survive AND the galaxy to survive so that they had somewhere to retire to, as well. Which makes it different than the romance scene before assaulting TIM'S base, because that only requires that you romance Liara, but it's harder to actually get this epilogue, since if you don't make the right choices throughout the games, then Shep/Liara can die in the end, and perhaps parts of the galactic community might not survive. So you need a perfect run to allow this epilogue.

I don't know if I'd want a cliche'd "wedding scene" in the epilogue, but if they did, I'd want it to be used as a chance to flesh out Asari culture. I would want it to be an Asari style wedding, that should damn well be significantly different than an American human wedding as we think of it. I wouldn't mind that. But I'd be rather bored by a stereotypical human wedding.

Just going into some more detail with what I'd want in an ideal ending, since you asked. Is this a better, satisfactory answer? Anything else you'd like to know?

Also if I might ask, why did you want to know?

My writer pal, Grub, is writing alternate endings for Mass Effect 3 (the current version of which you can read here at the link provided in the thread social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10966771 ) and he's at the stage where he's writing every single character resolution and separate love interest post-ending epilogues. He wants to get a view on everyone's favorite LIs because there's no way a single person could play through every single possible Shep story in a reasonable amount of time.

his LI was also Liara, but he'll be one of the first to admit that there are many people who are probably more passionate about the love interests than he is. He wants to find commonalities between passionate LI fans so that the character resolutions can reach their fullest potentials!

And thanks so much for your comments!!  :

[Aristobulus500]

That's a very fair criticism, Pockles. I also want to say there's nothing wrong with late replays at all, especially in a fast moving thread like this. Don't feel ashamed for that.

I will say that as far as V'asir's criticism of Shepard...it's a bit different. She's criticizing Shepard, not the player. There is a disconnect there, because the player isn't going to feel it's fair because they didn't have a choice...but in the lore, Shepard did and he went with Cerberus.

That is, admittedly, awkward and jarring. Just explaining it though.

[Aristobulus500]

M0keys wrote...
My writer pal, Grub, is writing alternate endings for Mass Effect 3 (the current version of which you can read here at the link provided in the thread social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10966771 ) and he's at the stage where he's writing every single character resolution and separate love interest post-ending epilogues. He wants to get a view on everyone's favorite LIs because there's no way a single person could play through every single possible Shep story in a reasonable amount of time.

his LI was also Liara, but he'll be one of the first to admit that there are many people who are probably more passionate about the love interests than he is. He wants to find commonalities between passionate LI fans so that the character resolutions can reach their fullest potentials!

And thanks so much for your comments!!  :

Oh wow, that's pretty cool. Do me a favor and let me know when he gets some progress made into writing that, okay? Wouldn't mind reading it.

If you've got any other questions I'll try to answer, too.

[M0keys]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

M0keys wrote...
My writer pal, Grub, is writing alternate endings for Mass Effect 3 (the current version of which you can read here at the link provided in the thread social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10966771 ) and he's at the stage where he's writing every single character resolution and separate love interest post-ending epilogues. He wants to get a view on everyone's favorite LIs because there's no way a single person could play through every single possible Shep story in a reasonable amount of time.

his LI was also Liara, but he'll be one of the first to admit that there are many people who are probably more passionate about the love interests than he is. He wants to find commonalities between passionate LI fans so that the character resolutions can reach their fullest potentials!

And thanks so much for your comments!!  :

Oh wow, that's pretty cool. Do me a favor and let me know when he gets some progress made into writing that, okay? Wouldn't mind reading it.

Sure! The endings themselves are done, and you can read them. It's just the character resolutions that need to happen now :

Aristobulus500 wrote...

If you've got any other questions I'll try to answer, too.

Will do! Thank you very much!

[pacer90]

Having just gotten back to my home country, and just beating ME3, I am more disappointed in bioware's handling of the Liara/Aethya situation than the ending.

Can't argue with how good the memory "goodbye" scene was though. That **** almost had me in tears.

Modifié par pacer90, 19 avril 2012 - 02:05 .

[Aristobulus500]

pacer90 wrote...

Having just gotten back to my home country, and just beating ME3, I am more disappointed in bioware's handling of the Liara/Aethya situation than the ending.

Can't argue with how good the memory "goodbye" scene was though. That **** almost had me in tears.

The mind melding scene with Liara had me in awe. Especially since I was just expecting a normal conversation since so far everyone had just had dialogue, and Liara does...that. The significance of what she was doing wasn't lost on me - sharing her very essence and being with Shepard.

Anyway, what is your problem with the Liara/Aethyta situation? I personally really liked it, their conversation was hilarious. If you want to say they should've done more, I definitely agree - Aethyta should've had more than that one appearance, but I thought that appearance was great. I loved how she gave Shepard **** for dating Liara, and then also made fun of Liara for sleeping with Shep. "how many times have *you* popped his thermal clip?"

[moreeman06]

 

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Oh, and just so people know I've not forgotten about my final ME1 fanfic entry. I'm actually holding off on ME2 entirely until its finished so I can start the next "batch" of short stories with my backlog free. I'm working on it every night.

Problem is it just keeps growing. Already up to 5k words and ten pages in word. Probably going to be a long one.

*steps out from Arena*  If you still want some critiques before you post it I'm still game [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

PMC65 wrote...

Pockles wrote...

I'll just leave these here.

*steps in after missing way too many pages and sees Ash/Liara porn*

"Sweet Liv Tyler!" 

 

Its ok she can look.  Ash knows that Liara is as us humans say "taken" 

FdL_Ananas wrote...

Oh wow, seems tonight everyone gets [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/bandit.png[/smilie]'ed even when trying to post their own artwork. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Guess there's not much left to do but adding the version with Liara by the fishtank that inspired me to try that lighting ...

(feels silly now, but NSFW warning and all that)



And great work, Neeh, as always. You know we expect many many more parts of that story now, don't you? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

 

SuperClutch16 wrote...

This is umm...uhh...Yeah [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]

 

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

 

GODDESS!!!!! Ananas, Neeh you are both going to give me multiple heart attacks if you keep this up....  *looks at glass of Serrice Ice Brandy in hand*  I umm... need to take these...and ummm... *turns back towards skybox entrance*  HEY THE LOT OF YOU OUT NOW, THE SKYBOX IS TEMPORARILY CLOSED FOR MAINTENANCE TILL THE GAMES RESUME!!!!  Yeah I'll be in the arena 

Erenbe wrote...

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Will you people please stop posting depressing endings? You'll make Liara sad.

Here is something nice for you. Liara reciting love poems to Shep! See? Isn't that nice? Personally I think it's some Shakespeare stuff!!

 

maybe her and Kirrahe can perform together

[pacer90]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

pacer90 wrote...

Having just gotten back to my home country, and just beating ME3, I am more disappointed in bioware's handling of the Liara/Aethya situation than the ending.

Can't argue with how good the memory "goodbye" scene was though. That **** almost had me in tears.

The mind melding scene with Liara had me in awe. Especially since I was just expecting a normal conversation since so far everyone had just had dialogue, and Liara does...that. The significance of what she was doing wasn't lost on me - sharing her very essence and being with Shepard.

Anyway, what is your problem with the Liara/Aethyta situation? I personally really liked it, their conversation was hilarious. If you want to say they should've done more, I definitely agree - Aethyta should've had more than that one appearance, but I thought that appearance was great. I loved how she gave Shepard **** for dating Liara, and then also made fun of Liara for sleeping with Shep. "how many times have *you* popped his thermal clip?"

Oh that's the point! It was such an awesome start, and then it was kinda like... oh. Liara already knew, and neither seemed to care about the 106-107 years apart. Other than to make jokes. (which... were very funny )

Actually, I take back my claim of the Aethya/Liara being the most disappointing. The starmap thing that Liara made... with Shepard's history in it and stuff. I assumed that was going to be in the ending of the game. Like they were going to retell Shepard's story, Liara giving the speech or something. Then all of your old allies and crewmates were going to pitch in as their favourite parts came up.

I literally thought that was a guarantee for the finale.

[Clayless]

Anyone know if there's a full picture for this?



Edit:

Actually I think I found it nevermind.

Modifié par Our_Last_Scene, 19 avril 2012 - 02:45 .

[JaylaClark]

Amazingly, since I last posted here 8 hours ago, a rather significant point I've been making about the Mass Effect galaxy-as-presented kicked in here.

The concept is what I keep calling "If you want war, prepare for war" after the direct book quote from Jingo. One of the reasons why I support a hypothetical extension of the ending where the galaxy is forced to win the peace after the relays go is because all over the games, mostly in the third but it's well done, are hints that the galaxy is locked into the thought of 'preemptive defense'. The geth were attacked by the quarians without provocation because everyone knew that AIs will revolt; the asari lose their homeworld largely because they hold back their advantage over the rest of the galaxy until it's too late to help them; the salarians speak of the inevitability of new Krogan Wars if the genophage gets cured... then you find out they're uplifting the yahg for ... I have no clue, unless it's to counter the krogan threat. Which if Wrex and Baraka are in charge, will never materialize...

I say this because somehow internecine warfare kicked in about mShep and fShep without any severe basis in fact. Though I do tend to think of Sheploo users as trolls by default ... I'M KIDDING by the way, head that one off beforehand ... my actual thought on Sheploo is he looks kind of generic, and I'd really rather see custom MaleSheps, but I digress. But I think people turtled up in defensive mode as soon as Sunnie made the Gorillaloo point, when... why ARE we getting defensive?

Femshep has by far the most baby pics with Liara, it's a clear fact. Femshep tends to have far more romantic pics with Liara, due to the artists that draw maleShep tending to be... oh, a little more smutty. And fewer on the ground, by a bit. So it's entirely a legitimate desire to see one's Shepard with one's chosen LI and a legit frustration when it's relatively rare.

Unless the Sheploo person was really trolling.  See, this is the internet, where a) people tend to be nicknamed-Richards far more than in RL and  we can't tell intent because people's faces aren't present nor are their voices. I'm very likely overreacting as it is, which, LDG members will know, is kind of my hat. (Having Asperger's syndrome, as I have recently learned, means I'm kind of even more likely to misunderstand intent. It happens all the time at work with tone of voice and body language as additional clues... anyway.) But, and again this is probably a 'not-as-I-do-so-often', but assuming someone isn't trying to drive you insane intentionally isn't a bad place to start.

That is all.

[Pockles]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

pacer90 wrote...
Can't argue with how good the memory "goodbye" scene was though. That **** almost had me in tears.

The mind melding scene with Liara had me in awe. Especially since I was just expecting a normal conversation since so far everyone had just had dialogue, and Liara does...that. The significance of what she was doing wasn't lost on me - sharing her very essence and being with Shepard.

Notice what she's implying while explaining her "gift" to Shepard? "Close friends...or bondmates."

Very nice scene.

[AlienWolf728]

 JustthoughtI'dleavethisherek?

Modifié par AlienWolf728, 19 avril 2012 - 03:42 .

[NubXL]

SuperClutch16 wrote...

This is umm...uhh...Yeah

I know what I'm doing tonight.

[Sunnie]

NubXL wrote...

SuperClutch16 wrote...

This is umm...uhh...Yeah

snip

I know what I'm doing tonight.

Shining your shoes?

[Spartx9]

So apparently I missed out on a lot while I was out...

[AlienWolf728]

Sunnie22 wrote...

NubXL wrote...

SuperClutch16 wrote...

This is umm...uhh...Yeah

snip

I know what I'm doing tonight.

Shining your shoes?

Is that what you kids call it nowadays? 

[IliyaMoroumetz]

M0keys wrote...

Quick question to all Liara fans: What did Shepard's life with Liara look like to you after ME3? What were you expecting? Where did they end up in your head?

Well, while Nora Shepard was able to escape the destruction of the Citadel, she didn't escape unscathed.

In the crash on her way back to Earth, she lost her right hand and left leg.  Even with prosthetics, Nora knew her fighting days were done.  So, in seclusion and isolation, Nora retreated from the public after it gave the people relief to know she was alive.

No one, save for the most trusted of Shepard's squadmates, knew that she left with Liara to Rannoch, or one of the lesser populated planets in the Perseus Veil, where she lives in isolation and as a partner to Liara's job as both Archeaologist and Shadow Broker when not living amongst the Quarian populace. She feels a kinship to them more than her own species, having grown up on the streets of Old Los Angeles and knows too well how it's like to be treated like garbage like they have.

She lived to have two beautiful daughters, and an adopted Krogan son, and lived a long, peaceful, and quiet life out of the public's eye.  She regrets nothing.

Hope this was what you wanted.

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

SuperClutch16 wrote...

This is umm...uhh...Yeah

Liara tu ha cojito mi corazon y
bueno tanbien el corazon de
Female Shepard

this is so hot <3

[Pockles]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

 I just finished my ME1 playthrough, wow, I forgot how different Liara was in the first one. I kind of miss socially awkward, geeky Liara.

Also, this has probably been posted here before, but I love this picture. 

Getting a lot of dirty pictures in this thread lately. Not that I mind, but thanks for the fresh air.

I kind of miss ME1 Liara too. I also miss neutral options and hanging up on the council.

The asari councilor hung up on Shepard this time. Payback?

[TheMarshal]

pacer90 wrote...

Having just gotten back to my home country, and just beating ME3, I am more disappointed in bioware's handling of the Liara/Aethya situation than the ending.

Can't argue with how good the memory "goodbye" scene was though. That **** almost had me in tears.

Welcome back to the land of the people who are 'with it'!

Modifié par TheMarshal, 19 avril 2012 - 05:54 .

[The Star Treker]

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

neehs.deviantart.com/

SuperClutch16 wrote...

This is umm...uhh...Yeah

Umm...I'm... :wub:

Modifié par The_Star_Treker, 19 avril 2012 - 06:13 .

[DarkCloudd]

The_Star_Treker wrote...

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

neehs.deviantart.com/
*sexy pic snip*

SuperClutch16 wrote...

This is umm...uhh...Yeah

*another sexy pic snipped*

Umm...I'm...

Yea my reaction also, if you all keep posting these pics I'm going to get dehydrated from all the drool thats being produced. Not that I want you all to stop or anything but I just wanted you to know there would be consequences to your actions.

Edit: whoops Top page pic


Shepard: Come on Liara please don't sneeze in the car, your Biotics always flare up when you do that!!!
Liara: I'm sorry Shepard I can't help i...... *Achoo*!!!!
And you all thought it was Kei Leng that made the SkyCar crash on the Citadel.

Modifié par DarkCloudd, 19 avril 2012 - 06:20 .

[Thorn Harvestar]

off-topic, but found it funny:

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