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yesikareyes wrote...

@ladyvader and @Lizardviking

Sorry my tablet, cannot quote haha. I thought Shiala was the only green Asari, interesting. I should check that out. Also, yes I think blue is a sexy color... purple as well... I think Falere was purple.


Shiala pre-Thorian and Aria are also purple IMO.

Looking at this page, we need blue goodness.

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Wow, that is a really well done picture. Makes her seem pretty confident, too.



^ Liara seems to have gotten a lot more mature and confident in ME3. And I thought I like how she matured in LotSB. :)

She matured even more in ME3 in a lot of ways.  Her face seems a little different..like it lost baby fat or something;P Its more mature and angular. She has also gotten a lot more shapely, and even a bit muscular. She looks like she could give you one heck of a roundhouse kick;P

New picture idea!  Liara doing kickboxing! ;P

Her confidence has also increased as well, like you said. She knows she has a job to do, and dosent fool around. She sometimes can become a bit absorbed in her work, and may come off as distant at times. But I think this goes with her prior MO, having earned a PHD and all at a time when most Asari are still partying. Also, she seems always be one who is ready to perserver and push forward. For example, I like the scene just after Mars where she is yelling at your Shepard with "Kaidain needs Medical attention! We need to Leave the Sol system!", like she was telling Shepard to snap out of it. Or even how she helps to console a Paragon Shepard. I liked that back and forth help they gave eachother. It was like Shepard needed to seek comfort with her a little bit. That made them seem more like their on an even playing feild.

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Oh, definitely. I think I mentioned some of this in an earlier post, but I love her character development in LotSB and ME3. She is a lot more confident, yet it doesn't seem out of character. It actually feels like a natural progression from the character she was in ME1 - to the point, at many times, especially aboard the Normandy when she's just talking to Shepard, she'll wind down and more of that softer side of her comes out.

But she's not weak - what I love about her relationship with Shepard is that it actually comes across as equal. Many times Liara will step up and try to support Shepard, and be the strong one in the relationship, it's not just Shep taking advantage of her. Liara will confront Shepard and actually try to get at how he's really feeling and try to be there for him emotionally, just as Shepard can be there for her when she needs it. There's a lot of chemistry between them, and it fits.

I certainly appreciate that she's become stronger, too, without going overboard and becoming a shallow badass femme fatale - instead she has a strength that fits her, without being over the top and lame. She can take charge when she needs to, she can hold her own, and she can be independent, but she's not completely above connecting to other people and getting help from them.

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Aristobulus500 wrote...

But she's not weak - what I love about her relationship with Shepard is that it actually comes across as equal. Many times Liara will step up and try to support Shepard, and be the strong one in the relationship, it's not just Shep taking advantage of her. Liara will confront Shepard and actually try to get at how he's really feeling and try to be there for him emotionally, just as Shepard can be there for her when she needs it. There's a lot of chemistry between them, and it fits.

Liara tried to console Shepard after losing the data on Thessia.  This after Liara almost lost it before they got to the temple.  I think seeing Shepard almost fall the second time snapped her out it.

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Here's a repost of the test pics I did based on Shiala Thorian Green and Aria Purple...

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One thing to keep in mind, Liara was exposed to the Thorian spores if she was on the Zu's Hope mission, and could turn a different color at some later point in time.

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skylar-2 wrote...

Everyone, you are all so kind, thank you so much!

I really want to make a Liara x FemShep fan art, but not quite sure how to go about it. Plus i've never done anything like that before, so ideas are always welcome! With this I just wanted to create soething that showed her in her more confident state - the transgression from the first Mass Effect where she was socially awkward and quite shy, to the confident and hardened person she has become be Mass Effect 3.

Liara deserves more love. Thank the Goddess for this thread eh ;)?


I think anything you create of her will be heartly appreciated here :)

I don't feel that she is hardened, or rather she was but opened up and became more tender again (but still easily more confident than before) after LotSB.

I am usually more for showing her tender side but if you want to show her confident side you could for example paint her with Shepard on the battlefield.
If you show her with biotics flaring it will really impart a sense of her more proactve confidence.

But really anything you make of her, especially when tasteful and of that skill level will be more than welcome Image IPB

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Sunnie22 wrote...

Here's a repost of the test pics I did based on Shiala Thorian Green and Aria Purple...
One thing to keep in mind, Liara was exposed to the Thorian spores if she was on the Zu's Hope mission, and could turn a different color at some later point in time.


Wouldn't that go for both Shepard and the second squadmate aswell? Shepard have not complained about any of the side effects from the Thorian so I would say that Shepard was not infected. Making me wonder if Liara ever was herself.

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yesikareyes wrote...

@ladyvader and @Lizardviking

Sorry my tablet, cannot quote haha. I thought Shiala was the only green Asari, interesting. I should check that out. Also, yes I think blue is a sexy color... purple as well... I think Falere was purple.

Do Kasumi's LM.  I swear the two asari with a human male talking about Archangel and Omega also look green to me.  Falere is blue. 

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ladyvader wrote...

yesikareyes wrote...

@ladyvader and @Lizardviking

Sorry my tablet, cannot quote haha. I thought Shiala was the only green Asari, interesting. I should check that out. Also, yes I think blue is a sexy color... purple as well... I think Falere was purple.

Do Kasumi's LM.  I swear the two asari with a human male talking about Archangel and Omega also look green to me.  Falere is blue. 


They are indeed green.

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Thanks Marshal! The wait was excruciating, as is the wait for the DLC to fix that atrocity of an ending. You should pump out some Liara fluff to hold me over until it comes out.


I'm almost done with the next chapter of Returned, which marks the section closer.  I may or may not do some fluff between this and the next chapter.  I have some fluff ideas, but the next chapter is really speaking to me at the moment.

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ladyvader wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

But she's not weak - what I love about her relationship with Shepard is that it actually comes across as equal. Many times Liara will step up and try to support Shepard, and be the strong one in the relationship, it's not just Shep taking advantage of her. Liara will confront Shepard and actually try to get at how he's really feeling and try to be there for him emotionally, just as Shepard can be there for her when she needs it. There's a lot of chemistry between them, and it fits.

Liara tried to console Shepard after losing the data on Thessia.  This after Liara almost lost it before they got to the temple.  I think seeing Shepard almost fall the second time snapped her out it.

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What i got from this scene is Liara really wanted to say something to make it better..but she just could not think of anything to say.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Here's a repost of the test pics I did based on Shiala Thorian Green and Aria Purple...
One thing to keep in mind, Liara was exposed to the Thorian spores if she was on the Zu's Hope mission, and could turn a different color at some later point in time.


Wouldn't that go for both Shepard and the second squadmate aswell? Shepard have not complained about any of the side effects from the Thorian so I would say that Shepard was not infected. Making me wonder if Liara ever was herself.

Remember, Shiala turned green a few months after the Thorian died. Only Shiala's skin color changed, none of the humans had that sort of side effect (can't include the Thorian husks, they are really no longer human).
So, considering that the only one who's pigment changed was an Asari, Liara's skin could also suffer some pigmentation shifting at a much later time due to her exposure to the Thorian spores that flooded Zu's Hope.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Here's a repost of the test pics I did based on Shiala Thorian Green and Aria Purple...
One thing to keep in mind, Liara was exposed to the Thorian spores if she was on the Zu's Hope mission, and could turn a different color at some later point in time.


Wouldn't that go for both Shepard and the second squadmate aswell? Shepard have not complained about any of the side effects from the Thorian so I would say that Shepard was not infected. Making me wonder if Liara ever was herself.


I gotta imagine that Shiala actually having joined with the Thorian had something to do with her transformation.

That said, Liara still looks lovely in purple!  Her blue eyes really clash with the green, though.

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I prefer Aria in purple but not Liara,

yeah Aria she is purple and is so sexy, and is more mature

Liara she also blue, and is more and more sexy, and is a young adult

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Sunnie22 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Here's a repost of the test pics I did based on Shiala Thorian Green and Aria Purple...
One thing to keep in mind, Liara was exposed to the Thorian spores if she was on the Zu's Hope mission, and could turn a different color at some later point in time.


Wouldn't that go for both Shepard and the second squadmate aswell? Shepard have not complained about any of the side effects from the Thorian so I would say that Shepard was not infected. Making me wonder if Liara ever was herself.

Remember, Shiala turned green a few months after the Thorian died. Only Shiala's skin color changed, none of the humans had that sort of side effect (can't include the Thorian husks, they are really no longer human).
So, considering that the only one who's pigment changed was an Asari, Liara's skin could also suffer some pigmentation shifting at a much later time due to her exposure to the Thorian spores that flooded Zu's Hope.



But it has been over two years for Liara since meeting the Thorian, and  so far we have not heard or seen any of the affects known when infected by the Thorian. Also remember that Shiala's exposure was alot more severe compared to Liara.

Ajosraa wrote...

ladyvader wrote...
Liara tried
to console Shepard after losing the data on Thessia.  This after Liara
almost lost it before they got to the temple.  I think seeing Shepard
almost fall the second time snapped her out it.

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What
i got from this scene is Liara really wanted to say something to make
it better..but she just could not think of anything to say.


I had hoped they had kept atleast one certain part of Thessia from the old script.:(

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skylar-2 wrote...

Everyone, you are all so kind, thank you so much!

I really want to make a Liara x FemShep fan art, but not quite sure how to go about it. Plus i've never done anything like that before, so ideas are always welcome! With this I just wanted to create soething that showed her in her more confident state - the transgression from the first Mass Effect where she was socially awkward and quite shy, to the confident and hardened person she has become be Mass Effect 3.

Liara deserves more love. Thank the Goddess for this thread eh ;)?


It's really great...as for inspiration...maybe read some fanfic.  

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I had hoped they had kept atleast one certain part of Thessia from the old script.:(


I didn't read the old script, can you elaborate? I'm really interested in hearing about any more plans they might've had for Thessia/The Asari because I really feel that the Thessia part we got was incredibly rushed, and it really feels like they should've done more with it. It really needed 3-4 missions like Tuchanka/Rannoch got to flesh it out.

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Aristobulus500 wrote...

Ajosraa wrote...

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Wow, that is a really well done picture. Makes her seem pretty confident, too.



^ Liara seems to have gotten a lot more mature and confident in ME3. And I thought I like how she matured in LotSB. :)

She matured even more in ME3 in a lot of ways.  Her face seems a little different..like it lost baby fat or something;P Its more mature and angular. She has also gotten a lot more shapely, and even a bit muscular. She looks like she could give you one heck of a roundhouse kick;P

New picture idea!  Liara doing kickboxing! ;P

Her confidence has also increased as well, like you said. She knows she has a job to do, and dosent fool around. She sometimes can become a bit absorbed in her work, and may come off as distant at times. But I think this goes with her prior MO, having earned a PHD and all at a time when most Asari are still partying. Also, she seems always be one who is ready to perserver and push forward. For example, I like the scene just after Mars where she is yelling at your Shepard with "Kaidain needs Medical attention! We need to Leave the Sol system!", like she was telling Shepard to snap out of it. Or even how she helps to console a Paragon Shepard. I liked that back and forth help they gave eachother. It was like Shepard needed to seek comfort with her a little bit. That made them seem more like their on an even playing feild.

buutt..i think im starting to rantImage IPB

 


Oh, definitely. I think I mentioned some of this in an earlier post, but I love her character development in LotSB and ME3. She is a lot more confident, yet it doesn't seem out of character. It actually feels like a natural progression from the character she was in ME1 - to the point, at many times, especially aboard the Normandy when she's just talking to Shepard, she'll wind down and more of that softer side of her comes out.

But she's not weak - what I love about her relationship with Shepard is that it actually comes across as equal. Many times Liara will step up and try to support Shepard, and be the strong one in the relationship, it's not just Shep taking advantage of her. Liara will confront Shepard and actually try to get at how he's really feeling and try to be there for him emotionally, just as Shepard can be there for her when she needs it. There's a lot of chemistry between them, and it fits.

I certainly appreciate that she's become stronger, too, without going overboard and becoming a shallow badass femme fatale - instead she has a strength that fits her, without being over the top and lame. She can take charge when she needs to, she can hold her own, and she can be independent, but she's not completely above connecting to other people and getting help from them.


Yup. I agree.

She does tend to keep a colder exterior at times( I think of it as defensive mechanism to all the stress), but is acctually still very compassionate and caring. Around Shepard and her friends she can be much more open. And sometimes she needs to slap some sence into Shepard;P ( What i mean is like you said, Sometimes its like she Challenges Shepard to his face, and I admire that, even find it attractive for some reason), and sometimes Shepard needs to help her out too. Their good for eachother.

You also hear her many times in ME3 when on missions and such where she favors things like helping civilians, so she still cares about people.

I have to agree she can be badass but not overboard and 1 dimensional.

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Lizardviking wrote...
I had hoped they had kept atleast one certain part of Thessia from the old script.:(


I didn't read the old script, can you elaborate? I'm really interested in hearing about any more plans they might've had for Thessia/The Asari because I really feel that the Thessia part we got was incredibly rushed, and it really feels like they should've done more with it. It really needed 3-4 missions like Tuchanka/Rannoch got to flesh it out.


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The part I had hoped they would keep is Kai Leng beating Shepard and actually impaling him on a metal rebar. Would have been alot better than what we got.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Here's a repost of the test pics I did based on Shiala Thorian Green and Aria Purple...
One thing to keep in mind, Liara was exposed to the Thorian spores if she was on the Zu's Hope mission, and could turn a different color at some later point in time.


Wouldn't that go for both Shepard and the second squadmate aswell? Shepard have not complained about any of the side effects from the Thorian so I would say that Shepard was not infected. Making me wonder if Liara ever was herself.

Remember, Shiala turned green a few months after the Thorian died. Only Shiala's skin color changed, none of the humans had that sort of side effect (can't include the Thorian husks, they are really no longer human).
So, considering that the only one who's pigment changed was an Asari, Liara's skin could also suffer some pigmentation shifting at a much later time due to her exposure to the Thorian spores that flooded Zu's Hope.



But it has been over two years for Liara since meeting the Thorian, and  so far we have not heard or seen any of the affects known when infected by the Thorian. Also remember that Shiala's exposure was alot more severe compared to Liara.

Exactly, Shiala had long term full exposure and was even being replicated by the Thorian, which is reasonably why it only took only a few months. I am not saying that Liara will change, merely that it's possible at some later point in time, possibly even some decades later. It's rather interesting to consider.

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Sunnie22 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Here's a repost of the test pics I did based on Shiala Thorian Green and Aria Purple...
One thing to keep in mind, Liara was exposed to the Thorian spores if she was on the Zu's Hope mission, and could turn a different color at some later point in time.


Wouldn't that go for both Shepard and the second squadmate aswell? Shepard have not complained about any of the side effects from the Thorian so I would say that Shepard was not infected. Making me wonder if Liara ever was herself.

Remember, Shiala turned green a few months after the Thorian died. Only Shiala's skin color changed, none of the humans had that sort of side effect (can't include the Thorian husks, they are really no longer human).
So, considering that the only one who's pigment changed was an Asari, Liara's skin could also suffer some pigmentation shifting at a much later time due to her exposure to the Thorian spores that flooded Zu's Hope.



But it has been over two years for Liara since meeting the Thorian, and  so far we have not heard or seen any of the affects known when infected by the Thorian. Also remember that Shiala's exposure was alot more severe compared to Liara.

Exactly, Shiala had long term full exposure and was even being replicated by the Thorian, which is reasonably why it only took only a few months. I am not saying that Liara will change, merely that it's possible at some later point in time, possibly even some decades later. It's rather interesting to consider.


I see. I will not deny that it is plausible although I do hope against it happening.

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The part I had hoped they would keep is Kai Leng beating Shepard and actually impaling him on a metal rebar. Would have been alot better than what we got.


Wow, that's brutal. As painful as that would've been to see, I admit it would've done a lot to actually make Kai Leng into a threat - he's not strong enough to beat Shepard straight up, but won through cunning in planting a bomb beforehand, rather than a plot armored gunship you can't defeat for some reason.

And that would be a really dramatic scene, being injured like that, and seeing Liara and the other squadmate get injured...really cold.

I would save Liara every time, though. I couldn't really take a death scene with her.

I do think you're ultimately right that the segment would've been stronger if they had gone with that, though.

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Lizardviking wrote...
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The part I had hoped they would keep is Kai Leng beating Shepard and actually impaling him on a metal rebar. Would have been alot better than what we got.


Wow, that's brutal. As painful as that would've been to see, I admit it would've done a lot to actually make Kai Leng into a threat - he's not strong enough to beat Shepard straight up, but won through cunning in planting a bomb beforehand, rather than a plot armored gunship you can't defeat for some reason.

And that would be a really dramatic scene, being injured like that, and seeing Liara and the other squadmate get injured...really cold.

I would save Liara every time, though. I couldn't really take a death scene with her.

I do think you're ultimately right that the segment would've been stronger if they had gone with that, though.

That doesn't work with the timeline of ME3 events though. A grievous injury like that would take months for Shepard to heal, and the Reapers aren't going to wait for a few months while Shepard heals up enough to put up a dramatic final fight.
They had to change it or it would make the entire last 30% of the game make no sense rather than just the last 5%.

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That doesn't work with the timeline of ME3 events though. A grievous injury like that would take months for Shepard to heal, and the Reapers aren't going to wait for a few months while Shepard heals up enough to put up a dramatic final fight.
They had to change it or it would make the entire last 30% of the game make no sense rather than just the last 5%.


That's probably why it got cut, thinking on it. And for some other kind of dangerous situation, like the bomb just knocks rubble on top of people but doesn't cause serious injury like that, you need a better reason that it's actually a choice and you can't rescue both.

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Sunnie22 wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...
Click here to read it.

The part I had hoped they would keep is Kai Leng beating Shepard and actually impaling him on a metal rebar. Would have been alot better than what we got.


Wow, that's brutal. As painful as that would've been to see, I admit it would've done a lot to actually make Kai Leng into a threat - he's not strong enough to beat Shepard straight up, but won through cunning in planting a bomb beforehand, rather than a plot armored gunship you can't defeat for some reason.

And that would be a really dramatic scene, being injured like that, and seeing Liara and the other squadmate get injured...really cold.

I would save Liara every time, though. I couldn't really take a death scene with her.

I do think you're ultimately right that the segment would've been stronger if they had gone with that, though.

That doesn't work with the timeline of ME3 events though. A grievous injury like that would take months for Shepard to heal, and the Reapers aren't going to wait for a few months while Shepard heals up enough to put up a dramatic final fight.
They had to change it or it would make the entire last 30% of the game make no sense rather than just the last 5%.


Then they could have used a less grievious injury then, perhaps simply let Shepard get injured enough that Kai Leng beats him, but not enough that it will take months for him to recover.

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Should mention that I am quite okay with them removing the vimire like choice.

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Lizardviking wrote...

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That doesn't work with the timeline of ME3 events though. A grievous injury like that would take months for Shepard to heal, and the Reapers aren't going to wait for a few months while Shepard heals up enough to put up a dramatic final fight.
They had to change it or it would make the entire last 30% of the game make no sense rather than just the last 5%.


Then they could have used a less grievious injury then, perhaps simply let Shepard get injured enough that Kai Leng beats him, but not enough that it will take months for him to recover.

But they did  do that with the scene they shipped. Shepard got beat but not in a way that would take her out of the fight for the sake of the narrative.

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