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[lillitheris]

Chrillze wrote...
 I think that both Liara and the rest of the crew drink in their freetime, I don't think they take drugs...well maybe Kaidan does. And weed have negative effects on the brain just saying

Alcohol is a drug and, by all accounts, the most destructive on the brain of the commonly known ones on Earth.

Plus, it's 150 years from now. I'm pretty sure we've gotten around to legalizing at that point.

Why are we talking about this again?

[Aristobulus500]

Chrillze wrote...

That 4chan post have been dismissed by Mike The Man Gamble as fake. And if it would have been true it wouldn't have fixed a thing

Really? I certainly hope you're right, that would-be ending is terrible, because as you say, it wouldn't fix a thing at all. They'd still be at square one.

Do you have a link or anything where that got dismissed? I would love to be able to just lay that to rest.

[Chrillze]

Arlionis wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

That 4chan post have been dismissed by Mike The Man Gamble as fake. And if it would have been true it wouldn't have fixed a thing

Dunno, it not like if the devs never lied to us about something... 

if Mike The Man Gamble says that it's not true I believe him. With your attitude the developers shouldn't say anything because people would just think they lied

[Arcataye]

Aristobulus500 wrote...
*snip*

Here's something more for the ending discussion. http://i.imgur.com/xOQo5.jpg (reddit).
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Arcataye wrote...
Can anyone think of a quote for that infamous Liara derp face picture?

Modifié par Arcataye, 21 avril 2012 - 07:59 .

[Sunnie]

Arlionis wrote...

Also, Sith Liara (Star Wars crossover)

This goes onto my list of most stupid cross over crap.

Furthermore, those type markings are from the Zabrak race, not Sith.

[Aristobulus500]

Arcataye wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...
*snip*

Here's something more for the ending discussion. http://i.imgur.com/xOQo5.jpg (reddit).

Of course, isn't there also a quote where they describe the ending of ME3 as a "wasteland" and say there won't be any more sequels after ME3, even without Shepard? Seems like both statements are contradictory, here.

[CDHarrisUSF]

Chrillze wrote...

You said that she would smoke weed/take drugs to calm down, thats what most addicts also do.

A saying someone told me a long time ago helped keep me out of trouble: "Don't waste a good drink on a bad mood." If you're angry/stressed/depressed, don't get drunk (or high or your altered state of choice). Deal with your issues first. There's a difference between using a drug recreationally and using a drug to cope with your problems. You still have to be wary of addiction if the drug in question creates a chemical dependence (like nicotine, heroin, cocaine, alcohol etc). I would generally avoid those. In the case of cannabis, though, it's less chemically addictive than even caffeine and is about as harmless.

It is practically impossible to overdose and the only noteworthy long-term negative effect I've seen in medical literature is that it might speed up the onset of schizophrenia by a few years in people with a genetic predisposition toward developing it anyway. There's a statistically significant link but no explanation as to the cause and effect relationship (could turn out to be a self-selection bias). The "addiction" statistics for cannabis are also inflated somewhat due to many courts sentencing mandatory enrollment in a treatment program for drug violations. Yes, it is possible to become addicted to cannabis... but more in the way that someone with an addictive personality might become psychologically addicted to anything which is pleasurable (eating, video games, etc).

"Get out of here, Dewey! We're smoking reefer... and you don't want no part of this s#!t!"

Modifié par CDHarrisUSF, 21 avril 2012 - 08:08 .

[Arcataye]

Chrillze wrote...
if Mike The Man Gamble says that it's not true I believe him. With your attitude the developers shouldn't say anything because people would just think they lied

Mass Effect 3 debacle - Pre-release developer quotes
CTRL-F   -- >  Mike Gamble

Modifié par Arcataye, 21 avril 2012 - 08:03 .

[CrazyGreggy]

MidnightRaith wrote...
I have no problem with Shepard and Liara going after the Shadow Broker, but what I meant by my question, is why did the Shadow Broker slip up then? He had plenty of experience, and power to continue the secret. If Cerberus was financially sunk as we're led to believe then how did they get that information? It's heavily implied that they were on their last leg and Shepard was apparently their last fight for humanity. Where did they get the resources to undermine one of the most powerful people in the galaxy? The more I think about it, the larger it seems to get as a plot hole.... Well, we can't say that Mass Effect isn't known for it's plot holes, right? Like I said, I would like to see the hole filled with something, but it's not critical. I only have to stop thinking about it, and I'm back to thinking how cool it is that Liara is the Shadow Broker.

Obviously I didn't express myself too well. The way I see it is that Cerberus has known for 2 years that the yahg SB is working for/with the collectors, but almost all their money was going into Lazarus. They may have picked this intel up any time in those 2 years via sleeper/double agents but the opportune time to slip it to Liara was once Shepard was up, about and had a fully prepared team to kick SB buttock. Also why it makes sense to get the info after Horizon once you've got at least 5 members in your squad.

[ladyvader]

CrazyGreggy wrote...

MidnightRaith wrote...
Certainly, but why is the Shadow Broker exposed now? It could have been an accident, which would be a bit anticlimatic, but outside of plot, why is the Broker exposed now? It seems like after Liara become the Shadow Broker, everyone on the Normandy+some found out about it. Seems like that would get a target painted on Liara's back faster than any of the other Brokers may have experienced. Liara's seemingly inability to keep her job underwraps would lend itself more towards the accidental discovery than the previous Broker. As you pointed out, that Broker was in power for approximately 60 years. Nothing to sneeze at, so I ask what changed? He certainly had the experience to keep his base underwraps for decades. How did Cerberus suddenly cause him to slip up? Or, rather, how did he suddenly slip up, with or without Cerberus's influence? Something happened, and I'd like to know what.

Well, he was working with the Collectors but we do know that TIM had sunk 4 billion credits into Project Lazarus and money-wise was running on fumes at that point. Liara's already been hunting for a way to take the SB down, slipping her the crucial info (and again, no idea how long they'd had that)  would take her, Shepard and the crew along to get rid of the collector-collaborator. If Liara wins, the collectors lose an ally, so using someone TIM knows Shepard will move heaven and earth to help is a smart move.

I think TIM gave the intel to Shepard to give to Liara for two reasons.  One, he wanted to curry brownie points with Shepard by allowing Shepard to help Liara with the Shadow Broker.  Two, he wanted the intel the Shadow Broker has.  The network all of it.

Since he lost track of Shepard after the SM, he waited until he knew where Shepard was.  I'm sure word got to him that Shepard was under house arrest and on Earth.  Perfect time to go after Liara.  No way could Shepard help her.

He was keeping an eye on their relationship.  Said so in the mission report after completing the dlc.

[Chrillze]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

That 4chan post have been dismissed by Mike The Man Gamble as fake. And if it would have been true it wouldn't have fixed a thing

Really? I certainly hope you're right, that would-be ending is terrible, because as you say, it wouldn't fix a thing at all. They'd still be at square one.

Do you have a link or anything where that got dismissed? I would love to be able to just lay that to rest.

There's a thread here on the forums that Mike The Man Gamble posted in, or you could check his twitter, someone asked him sbout it and linked him to the thread a couple of days ago and he said that they weren't even so far into the development that this guy could ser what he was describing

[Aristobulus500]

Chrillze wrote...
 There's a thread here on the forums that Mike The Man Gamble posted in, or you could check his twitter, someone asked him sbout it and linked him to the thread a couple of days ago and he said that they weren't even so far into the development that this guy could ser what he was describing

Well, that's a huge relief, glad to hear it. Seems out of character for the writing staff to think that's a good idea anyway.

[MidnightRaith]

CrazyGreggy wrote...

MidnightRaith wrote...
I have no problem with Shepard and Liara going after the Shadow Broker, but what I meant by my question, is why did the Shadow Broker slip up then? He had plenty of experience, and power to continue the secret. If Cerberus was financially sunk as we're led to believe then how did they get that information? It's heavily implied that they were on their last leg and Shepard was apparently their last fight for humanity. Where did they get the resources to undermine one of the most powerful people in the galaxy? The more I think about it, the larger it seems to get as a plot hole.... Well, we can't say that Mass Effect isn't known for it's plot holes, right? Like I said, I would like to see the hole filled with something, but it's not critical. I only have to stop thinking about it, and I'm back to thinking how cool it is that Liara is the Shadow Broker.

Obviously I didn't express myself too well. The way I see it is that Cerberus has known for 2 years that the yahg SB is working for/with the collectors, but almost all their money was going into Lazarus. They may have picked this intel up any time in those 2 years via sleeper/double agents but the opportune time to slip it to Liara was once Shepard was up, about and had a fully prepared team to kick SB buttock. Also why it makes sense to get the info after Horizon once you've got at least 5 members in your squad.

That makes more sense. It also implies that Cerberus found out before they sank their money into Shepard. However, I'd still like to find out how the Shadow Broker slipped up. Also, I'd like to find out how Cerberus managed to hide the fact that they had the dirt on the Broker from him for possibly two years. He didn't seem to take any action to protect his identity until LotSB actually starts, and even then only on Liara. Liara would be the more immediate threat, sure, but she wasn't the one that actually got the initial intel. Shadow Broker seemed to really drop the ball on this one. Not only did he not seem to have sufficient info on Cerberus's dealings to know that they found critical information on him, he also neglected to do for some time. Perhaps he also neglected to purge any personel he had that would be in the position to out him. In any case, he really, really, messed up. And considering he had 60 years under his belt, his actions, or lack there of, seem very jarring.

[Chrillze]

This is another "leak" that probably is fake http://i.imgur.com/Cj9H2.png

I must admit that I wouldn't be pissed off if it turned out to be true

[Aristobulus500]

Chrillze wrote...

This is another "leak" that probably is fake http://i.imgur.com/Cj9H2.png

I must admit that I wouldn't be pissed off if it turned out to be true

Yeah, this is more reasonable, especially since it allows Shepard to survive, not damn the entire galaxy, and reunite with his squad and LI.

Edit - I'm not sure I believe this specific person actually has any real information, so that is a fake post...yet at the same time, I expect that the DLC will do things pretty similar to what this post says. Again, not because this guy actually had anything to leak, just because it's a pretty sensible thing to do.

Modifié par Aristobulus500, 21 avril 2012 - 08:15 .

[MidnightRaith]

Chrillze wrote...

This is another "leak" that probably is fake http://i.imgur.com/Cj9H2.png

I must admit that I wouldn't be pissed off if it turned out to be true

I can only hope that this is what they're doing.....

[Arlionis]

Chrillze wrote...

This is another "leak" that probably is fake http://i.imgur.com/Cj9H2.png

I must admit that I wouldn't be pissed off if it turned out to be true

Well, that one is actually quite optimist, I hope at least some of it ends up being true. 

[Chrillze]

I really hope that you can reunite with your crew and LI in the DLC but I also hope that they don't make it cheesy and just like fanservice, you know what I mean? I also hope that I get to shoot joker

[DOsquareZER]

Chrillze wrote...

I really hope that you can reunite with your crew and LI in the DLC but I also hope that they don't make it cheesy and just like fanservice, you know what I mean? I also hope that I get to shoot joker

theyll do that along with some stunning "zomg" CGI visuals in hopes that itll alleviate nerdrage and distract you and a million other fans wanting ''baby blue endings'' from the gaping plot holes theyll continue to leave wide open. 

and that post... that word 'aplogize' leaves me skeptical.  Im under the belief that
bioware still believes they did nothing wrong and therefore leaves them
in the arrogance field and dont feel the need to apolgize. ever.  its fan error for expecting something bett...err else.

Modifié par doozer12, 21 avril 2012 - 08:33 .

[Sunnie]

All these "leaks" are all fakes. BioWare is so far into lockdown mode that nothing is being said without EA corp communications approval. And trust me when i say that anonymous posts can be traced back to an actual leak if it were one and stifled pretty quickly.

[WaterWar]

Chrillze wrote...

I really hope that you can reunite with your crew and LI in the DLC but I also hope that they don't make it cheesy and just like fanservice, you know what I mean? I also hope that I get to shoot joker

I know this isn't the "Joker"-thread but I've got to ask: Why would you want to shoot Joker?
He's been at your side for all three games. He might say some unappropiate things from time to time, but I think he has earned the right after saving ones arse a few times.

[Aristobulus500]

WaterWar wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

I really hope that you can reunite with your crew and LI in the DLC but I also hope that they don't make it cheesy and just like fanservice, you know what I mean? I also hope that I get to shoot joker

I know this isn't the "Joker"-thread but I've got to ask: Why would you want to shoot Joker?
He's been at your side for all three games. He might say some unappropiate things from time to time, but I think he has earned the right after saving ones arse a few times.

If I had to guess, I'd say it's because the ending shows him abandoning Shepard to haul ass off to crash on some random planet.

Not that I want to shoot Joker over it, but I can see some frustration.

[adneate]

WaterWar wrote...
Why would you want to shoot Joker?

The penalty for desertion during a time of war is death, after fleeing through the relay it might as well be Shepard who gets the honour of plugging him in the head with a Carnifex.

[The Lightspeaker]

It's been a while in coming, but I finally published the final short story of ME1. A few author notes first:
- Fair warning before anything else, this is considerably more erotic than previous entries, though I would hope people view it as tasteful rather than lewd. It's not particularly excessive (I'm not in the habit of putting stuff in that is just gratification and doesn't add to the story), but regardless it's probably NSFW.
- This is HUGE compared to previous ones. For comparison, my longest short fic in this little series to date has been Decisions at 3,766 words (inclusive of my preamble but meh). This one is 7,489 words. I actually intended to write more for the middle at first, but when I reached the end of the comfort scene (you'll see what I mean when you read it) it just seemed...well, finished. Felt like the right place to stop.
- It's set after the battle with Saren but before humans are granted a seat on the Council.
- Thanks to moreeman06 and Luxure for being patient editors for me and putting up with my kinda crazy mind.
- In the end I just decided to post it up without getting more feedback. Perhaps a bit of a risky move but honestly it felt like I was dragging out releasing this because I was concerned about just getting it out there. So instead I bit the bullet and submitted.

And so I present:

Convalescence


With that I come to the end of my fanfic path through Mass Effect 1. Not that I never plan on returning, but for now I don't think there's much more I can do with Naomi and Liara in ME1. I fully intend to carry on writing as I now begin working through Mass Effect 2 (although this could be slightly tricky given how Liara isn't a squad member). Thanks for putting up with my random depressive moods and thanks for reading. I hope you stick with me on the next stage of the journey.

Modifié par The Lightspeaker, 21 avril 2012 - 08:40 .

[DOsquareZER]

adneate wrote...

WaterWar wrote...
Why would you want to shoot Joker?

The penalty for desertion during a time of war is death, after fleeing through the relay it might as well be Shepard who gets the honour of plugging him in the head with a Carnifex.

This.  And i still havnt forgiven him for getting me killed in ME2.  Guys went from my ****list to my hitlist thanks to ME3 "speculative" endings.