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#35626
Tyranniac

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The Lightspeaker wrote...

Ugh...seriously this still?

Look I already explained this. Both LotSB and Arrival are designed primarily with the idea they'd be played after people have already explained the game. In the case of Arrival its because it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever otherwise and has explicitly been set up to lead into ME3. In the case of LotSB the writer's themselves have actually STATED that as a fact.

The fact they're available earlier is simply poor implementation of DLC coupled with the fact that I would assume they wanted to just let people have access to their DLC whenever. However in terms of how the narrative is designed it assumes you don't get the SB information until after the SM and you don't hear from Hackett until after absolutely everything else. For many people (I'd even argue the majority of people) that's exactly what happened because they got the DLC after they finished.


In any case arguing about the specific order missions are played in for a fanfic purpose is completely pointless. A lot of the stuff in the games can be played in any order regardless. So of course any damn fanfic isn't going to necessarily tally with the precise order you did things in; however it CAN tie in with the overall intended narrative design. Which is ME2 into LotSB into Arrival. Which is exactly what I'm doing.


Agree with this.

On another note, could someone link the ME3 save editor? There is one, right? I think I read somewhere around here that there is. I'd like to have it ready so I can fix the LotSB flag later when I start ME3 on this playthrough.

Are there any other flag import errors that can be fixed that anyone knows of by the way?

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Wait, what just happened?, I close down for night and then things go crazy, Lightspeaker becomes sad despite having just written a good story and an intense discussion where both sides essentially agree occurs followed by people getting near-hostile for playing LotSB at a certain point. 

I seriously need to change my sleeping pattern to sleeping at the day and being awake at night so I can keep up with these things.

But more seriously can't we drop the talk of when people play the DLCs? everyone has their own reasons for playing them at a particular point.
 
I am personally with Lightspeaker in the order of playing them (though I actually do Arrival before LotSB to end the game on a happy note but I headcanon it in the reverse order) but people can do what they feel like.

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The authors have to assume that the majority of players are going to finish the game before getting into the DLC. Most players will either have finished the game before the DLC is released, or won't decide to purchase the DLC until they've completed the game.

I don't really see why anyone would argue otherwise?

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Akernis wrote...

I am personally with Lightspeaker in the order of playing them (though I actually do Arrival before LotSB to end the game on a happy note but I headcanon it in the reverse order) but people can do what they feel like.


I actually think I'm going to try doing LotSB after Arrival this playthrough because it helps explain why Hackett says you still have a mission to do at the end of Arrival, and it would also make the LotSB cabin seen more powerful since Shepard and Liara knows that it won't be long until the Reapers arrive.

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Kaelef wrote...

The authors have to assume that the majority of players are going to finish the game before getting into the DLC. Most players will either have finished the game before the DLC is released, or won't decide to purchase the DLC until they've completed the game.

I don't really see why anyone would argue otherwise?

 

Nobody has argued about that. The argument was over where the DLCs make work best with the storyline and where they were intended to be. I'm pretty sure any arguments are over now anyway.

Modifié par Tyranniac, 07 mai 2012 - 01:57 .


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Akernis wrote...

Wait, what just happened?, I close down for night and then things go crazy, Lightspeaker becomes sad despite having just written a good story and an intense discussion where both sides essentially agree occurs followed by people getting near-hostile for playing LotSB at a certain point. 


I woke up to an ongoing conversation (being on GMT) and contributed a viewpoint. It was in no way an attack on Lightspeaker at all, I enjoy his fic immensely. I just wanted to contribute the PoV of someone who wasn't around for ME2's release nor for any of the DLC and had only the in-game dialogue on which to base any RP.

Certainly didn't intend any hostility and hope it wasn't taken as such.

#35631
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Normally I play LotSB and Arrival after the Suicide Mission. I think it all depends on how much you immerse yourself in the RP aspect of the game. I might to LotSB before the SM then next time through just for variety but who knows. All this talk of ME2 makes me want to go play it, of course maybe I can get more enjoyment out of it this time since I have a new graphics card for my computer. Finished ME1 with it and I have do say Image IPB. Never thought ME1 could run that smoothly and look that sharp.

Tyranniac wrote...

On another note, could someone link the ME3 save editor? There is one, right? I think I read somewhere around here that there is. I'd like to have it ready so I can fix the LotSB flag later when I start ME3 on this playthrough.

Are there any other flag import errors that can be fixed that anyone knows of by the way?


http://social.biowar...5/index/9776690 Gift for you Tyranniac!!

Modifié par DarkCloudd, 07 mai 2012 - 02:06 .


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DarkCloudd wrote...

Normally I play LotSB and Arrival after the Suicide Mission. I think it all depends on how much you immerse yourself in the RP aspect of the game. I might to LotSB before the SM then next time through just for variety but who knows. All this talk of ME2 makes me want to go play it, of course maybe I can get more enjoyment out of it this time since I have a new graphics card for my computer. Finished ME1 with it and I have do say Image IPB. Never thought ME1 could run that smoothly and look that sharp.


Every time I play through ME1 for some strange reason there are two places where I have to put settings to the lowest possible or my computer crashes.

DarkCloudd wrote...


http://social.biowar...5/index/9776690 Gift for you Tyranniac!!


Thank you!

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CrazyGreggy wrote...

Akernis wrote...

Wait, what just happened?, I close down for night and then things go crazy, Lightspeaker becomes sad despite having just written a good story and an intense discussion where both sides essentially agree occurs followed by people getting near-hostile for playing LotSB at a certain point. 


I woke up to an ongoing conversation (being on GMT) and contributed a viewpoint. It was in no way an attack on Lightspeaker at all, I enjoy his fic immensely. I just wanted to contribute the PoV of someone who wasn't around for ME2's release nor for any of the DLC and had only the in-game dialogue on which to base any RP.

Certainly didn't intend any hostility and hope it wasn't taken as such.

I was actually talking about Lillitheris and Aristobulus (which turned out to not having been hostile they just talked past each other... as far as I am aware Image IPB).

Modifié par Akernis, 07 mai 2012 - 02:49 .


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 So this is a bit off topic but for those of you who care i should be able to get back on my regulare 1-3 story a week schedule starting tomorrow I'm finally almost done with my Sabaac Card set :D

and to make up for it have a little Liara courtesy of Agregor

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http://agregor.devia...lar liara&qo=23 

#35635
Tyranniac

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moreeman06 wrote...

 So this is a bit off topic but for those of you who care i should be able to get back on my regulare 1-3 story a week schedule starting tomorrow I'm finally almost done with my Sabaac Card set :D

and to make up for it have a little Liara courtesy of Agregor

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http://agregor.devia...lar liara&qo=23 


Is it just me or does this look like Liara in the Simpsons? :huh:

#35636
IliyaMoroumetz

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Finally, my first real Femshep/Liara story's complete for your amusement and enjoyment.;

The Snowflake that Starts the Avalanche

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Tyranniac wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

 So this is a bit off topic but for those of you who care i should be able to get back on my regulare 1-3 story a week schedule starting tomorrow I'm finally almost done with my Sabaac Card set :D

and to make up for it have a little Liara courtesy of Agregor

Image IPB 
http://agregor.devia...lar liara&qo=23 


Is it just me or does this look like Liara in the Simpsons? :huh:


nope in the description on DA it says that Agregor always thought that Liara would have been alot like Lisa as a child

#35638
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moreeman06 wrote...

nope in the description on DA it says that Agregor always thought that Liara would have been alot like Lisa as a child


Ah, I see. :lol:

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IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

Finally, my first real Femshep/Liara story's complete for your amusement and enjoyment.;

The Snowflake that Starts the Avalanche

I read it a couple of hours ago and LOL many times :lol: You did a good job. The story is weird but it's funny. It reminds me of a picture on DA.
Did I just kill the thread?

Modifié par rubynorman, 07 mai 2012 - 03:42 .


#35640
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I play all the dlc made for ME1,ME2,ME3 in the corrent campaign, i play in one or two campaign Arrival after the SM, and in two case i invite Liara in the Shepard Cabin after the SM and Arrival, just for watch the differences about the dialogue, and i found pleasant surprises.

Imagine if BioWare had put into ME2 the Citadel of ME1, and image travel in the Presidium and in the agglomerations whit Taxi like the dlc LotSB, and plus image to have all of the mission about the Citadel in the same maps,

Imagine having in ME3 all the three parts of the Citadel views in the three chapters, Imagine travelling in these areas by taxi, through tunnels and elevators.

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moreeman06 wrote...
So this is a bit off topic but for those of you who care i should be able to get back on my regulare 1-3 story a week schedule starting tomorrow I'm finally almost done with my Sabaac Card set Image IPB

Yeah, more stuff from you Image IPB 

rubynorman wrote...
Did I just kill the thread?

No, there just isen't much activity at this time of day (or morning/night etc. depending on where you are).

Modifié par Akernis, 07 mai 2012 - 03:53 .


#35642
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This thread will never die, along with my unhealthy obsession with Liara.

#35643
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Should we do something for fun? A friendly competion. Like writting a funny conversation between Liara and a character. Photoshop Liara wearing different clothers in real life/ other games. Or recording a conversation between Shepard and Liara with your own voice as Shepard. I don't know if this's a stupid idea but I'm bored.:pinched: Any idea?
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Modifié par rubynorman, 07 mai 2012 - 04:27 .


#35644
IliyaMoroumetz

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I say dialogue lines. For example; in the Ash thread, they have dialogue lines between Ash and Shep. Sounds like fun.

#35645
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Lizard ... That is why I try and put off missions that are not related to the Collector's base or crew until after the SM now. I do play overlord pre Legion though since after him the DLC loses its choice value.

Tyranniac ... Yes, yes you may. Image IPB

Alex ... I am sure that someone could have a reason. But it may make no sense for you. I always do a mission between giving Liara the intel and meeting her. But I also RP that after she says give her time that she is reasearching it and Shepard is waiting on her call. It takes her awhile to figure out what she is seeing and once she does she calls Shepard. And I don't give Liara the info now until after the SM with one of my Shepard's because it fits that story and that Shepard's reasoning. Your story and RP it might make no sense but to each his own.

Crazy Greggy ... I have to pretend that the message from Hackett doesn't come through until later than it does. But you are right that Shepard would go after a direct reaper mission over the collectors ... that is why I just go with it coming just shortly after the LotSB mission in my canon.

Akernis ... Because "my way is the right way dang it all to heck!" Its the way humans roll. I personally love to hear the different ways peeps play, in what order and their reasonong/stories attached to it. Just get popcorn and watch the show. Image IPB

#35646
IliyaMoroumetz

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PMC! :D

*hugs*

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IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

PMC! :D

*hugs*


Hugs back! Read your short noted above. Funny! B O W C H I K A B O W W O W!!!

The Ash thread has some really great dialogue on there and some fun people. It's my other home on the BSN.

Moreeman ... Karmen said to hug you but after the blue baby I refuse to! Image IPB

Now off to Target and then writing ... keep sane and play nice!       or not.

Cheers!

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rubynorman wrote...

Should we do something for fun? A friendly competion. Like writting a funny conversation between Liara and a character. Photoshop Liara wearing different clothers in real life/ other games. Or recording a conversation between Shepard and Liara with your own voice as Shepard. I don't know if this's a stupid idea but I'm bored.:pinched: Any idea?

Might be fun, I would agree with the conversation suggestion, though I am not really good at writting dialog outside of an actual scenario. 

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NIce ones, particularly the last even if it is a little unclear.

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PMC65 wrote...

Now off to Target and then writing ... keep sane and play nice!       or not.

Cheers!


The magic words! Moar chapters!

/happydance

edit - ToP AGAIN? With a nothing post that demands a custom screenie rather than just relinking something else?

Fine. Here's Liara telling Karys she could start a war:

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#35650
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Poor Liara.
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@PMC: I'm looking forward to "the spoggoten date" :wub:

EDIT: =]=]=]=]
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