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[Ecrulis]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

It probably depends on the culture the Asari find themselves immersed in. An Asari on a human dominated planet or area, or on the Citadel, is probably more likely to think of things along masculine/feminine terms and perhaps form an individual taste for one over the other.

An Asari in a largely Asari controlled area like Thessia or something? Probably much, much less likely to do so. It probably just comes down to individual Asari preferences in those cases or something.

Yea that was pretty much what I was thinking. It seems hard to have any broad stroke culture generalizations about asari since a big portion of their culture is diversifying it with other species.

[Aristobulus500]

And we don't get to actually spend enough time on purely Asari places to get a close enough look at Asari culture itself, unfortunately.

[Erenbe]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

And we don't get to actually spend enough time on purely Asari places to get a close enough look at Asari culture itself, unfortunately.

Well, it's perfect DLC material. I bet my unborn child that Bioware will release extra missions on Thessia. Seeing that Tuchanka and Rannoch had several missions, it seems weird that they only made one for Thessia. So yeah....after the EC they will try to cash in more by releasing a Thessia DLC. That and of course "Retake Omega" because it wasn't obvious at all that this part was missing in the game!  

[MidnightRaith]

Dude on Fire wrote...
Yeah, that's something I almost take for granted. I still wonder if it's an attribute that's with them from birth, just like human sexuality is (let's face it, christians, that's how it is).

Sexuality develops during puberty, rather than birth. It has to do with how an individual develops psychologically.

Regarding your original question, I do agree that it probably depends on how long the asari in question spends with the particular species. Tastes would develop over time.

[Dude on Fire]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

It probably depends on the culture the Asari find themselves immersed in. An Asari on a human dominated planet or area, or on the Citadel, is probably more likely to think of things along masculine/feminine terms and perhaps form an individual taste for one over the other.

An Asari in a largely Asari controlled area like Thessia or something? Probably much, much less likely to do so. It probably just comes down to individual Asari preferences in those cases or something.

Still, it is known that human ******-/bisexuality per definition is "carried" from birth (whether if it manifests in puberty or not), just like heterosexuality is. I can choose to be gay all I want, I won't be. I can also be raised in a family with ie. two dads, but it'll only open my eyes and make me have greater tolerance for different sexuality. If I'm actually altering my sexuality solely because of my surroundings, then I've misunderstood the definition of sexuality. It's something completely personal, something that is in the very core of our selves - our souls, if you will. But since Asari are per deinition bisexual, it would probably work a lot different for them. I wonder if there are monosexual Asari... just to spice up my theory.

Modifié par Dude on Fire, 07 mai 2012 - 09:18 .

[Aristobulus500]

I would definitely expect there to be some monosexual Asari. Just like I'll expect there are some Asari that choose to only go after humans, or Turians, or etc. because it's just what they like.

[Tyranniac]

Erenbe wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

And we don't get to actually spend enough time on purely Asari places to get a close enough look at Asari culture itself, unfortunately.

Well, it's perfect DLC material. I bet my unborn child that Bioware will release extra missions on Thessia. Seeing that Tuchanka and Rannoch had several missions, it seems weird that they only made one for Thessia. So yeah....after the EC they will try to cash in more by releasing a Thessia DLC. That and of course "Retake Omega" because it wasn't obvious at all that this part was missing in the game!  

Well, I certainly wouldn't mind seeing Thessia expanded in DLC.

Dude on Fire wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

It probably depends on the culture the Asari find themselves immersed in. An Asari on a human dominated planet or area, or on the Citadel, is probably more likely to think of things along masculine/feminine terms and perhaps form an individual taste for one over the other.

An Asari in a largely Asari controlled area like Thessia or something? Probably much, much less likely to do so. It probably just comes down to individual Asari preferences in those cases or something.

Still, it is known that human ******-/bisexuality per definition is "carried" from birth, just like heterosexuality is. I can choose to be gay all I want, I won't be. I can also be raised in a family with ie. two dads, but it'll only open my eyes and make me have greater tolerance for different sexuality. If I'm actually altering my sexuality solely because of my surroundings, then I've misunderstood the definition of sexuality. It's something completely personal, something that is in the very core of our selves - our souls, if you will. But since Asari are per deinition bisexual, it would probably work a lot different for them. I wonder if there are monosexual Asari... just to spice up my theory.

 

What makes you say that? I don't think it's too far-fetched to assume many asari are mostly attracted to certain gender/species combinations. (I'd imagine species is more important than gender to them generally though.)

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Aristobulus500 wrote...

I would definitely expect there to be some monosexual Asari. Just like I'll expect there are some Asari that choose to only go after humans, or Turians, or etc. because it's just what they like.

 

Agree.

Modifié par Tyranniac, 07 mai 2012 - 09:22 .

[Aristobulus500]

Erenbe wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

And we don't get to actually spend enough time on purely Asari places to get a close enough look at Asari culture itself, unfortunately.

Well, it's perfect DLC material. I bet my unborn child that Bioware will release extra missions on Thessia. Seeing that Tuchanka and Rannoch had several missions, it seems weird that they only made one for Thessia. So yeah....after the EC they will try to cash in more by releasing a Thessia DLC. That and of course "Retake Omega" because it wasn't obvious at all that this part was missing in the game!  

It's perfect DLC material, because the Asari and Thessia got shafted hard by ME3. Not just in that what happens to them is extremely negative, but in the sheer quantity and quality of their content compared to the other races.

I would ****ing love DLC that gave you more missions on Thessia and really fleshed out the Asari and Thessia more. There's so much potential for actually getting to land on Thessia and it's just completely squandered.

Especially with Liara a long - imagine all that actually getting to visit and explore Thessia could do for a Shep/Liara romance - especially if you allow this before the Reapers land and actually start attacking. They could visit places Liara grew up at, and Liara could just introduce Shep personally to lots of bits of her home life and Asari culture up close and personal.

Aside from the ways to involve Liara, there's just actually fleshing out the Asari more, too, because they just don't really do anything in ME3. Get some chances to get accustomed to Thessia and try to help them prepare before the Reapers hit.

[Akernis]

Robhuzz wrote...

Akernis wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...
Haven't been in this thread for a while now. Did I miss anything important?:innocent:

That depends on how you define important, we have been appreciating Liara that is always important .

But on a more serious note we have talked about a variaty of different topics related to Liara in various degrees, from fanfic praising to when to play LotSB, before that we talked about whether the asari needed physical contact when having a union with their partner and how Asari implants/biotics amps worked and earlier we went a little off topic and talked about wether we liked some of the other characters while bashing Jacob for his "the Normandy is you true love line".

I think that covered the last fithteen or so pages 

Edit: While not directly Liara related I found this one about the Marauder Shields comic that I thought was great.
It works best if you read the page before it first. 
http://my.deviantart...sages/#/d4yyual

Thanks for explaining that. Seems I did miss some rather interesting subjects and a few funny ones.

That comic is gold, been enjoying it since issue #1:D

My pleasure, i only found the comic halfway through but has followed it intently since then.

[eoinnx03]

Akernis wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Akernis wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...
Haven't been in this thread for a while now. Did I miss anything important?:innocent:

That depends on how you define important, we have been appreciating Liara that is always important .

But on a more serious note we have talked about a variaty of different topics related to Liara in various degrees, from fanfic praising to when to play LotSB, before that we talked about whether the asari needed physical contact when having a union with their partner and how Asari implants/biotics amps worked and earlier we went a little off topic and talked about wether we liked some of the other characters while bashing Jacob for his "the Normandy is you true love line".

I think that covered the last fithteen or so pages 

Edit: While not directly Liara related I found this one about the Marauder Shields comic that I thought was great.
It works best if you read the page before it first. 
http://my.deviantart...sages/#/d4yyual

Thanks for explaining that. Seems I did miss some rather interesting subjects and a few funny ones.

That comic is gold, been enjoying it since issue #1:D

My pleasure, i only found the comic halfway through but has followed it intently since then.

More people should know about this!

[Erenbe]

Aristobulus500 wrote...
It's perfect DLC material, because the Asari and Thessia got shafted hard by ME3. Not just in that what happens to them is extremely negative, but in the sheer quantity and quality of their content compared to the other races.

I would ****ing love DLC that gave you more missions on Thessia and really fleshed out the Asari and Thessia more. There's so much potential for actually getting to land on Thessia and it's just completely squandered.

Especially with Liara a long - imagine all that actually getting to visit and explore Thessia could do for a Shep/Liara romance - especially if you allow this before the Reapers land and actually start attacking. They could visit places Liara grew up at, and Liara could just introduce Shep personally to lots of bits of her home life and Asari culture up close and personal.

Aside from the ways to involve Liara, there's just actually fleshing out the Asari more, too, because they just don't really do anything in ME3. Get some chances to get accustomed to Thessia and try to help them prepare before the Reapers hit.

Oh I'm with you there. It would be grand to explore Thessia a bit more and have a chance to see the interactions you are describing. But I am rather conflicted about such a DLC. With LotSB and even Arrival it never felt as if the DLC were a crucial part of the game. I mean...they are great to play and all and in hindsight I would be sad not to have them but if they wouldn't exist it wouldn't diminish the quality of the game (in this case ME2). They were extras that made a nice game even nicer.

Additional missions on Thessia, Retake Omega....it would be so obvious that integral parts of the game have been omitted to be sold later. That's just splitting a game up into parts to cash in as much as possible. At least that is the feeling I would get.

I might still get a Thessia DLC because of the asari and Liara but I wouldn't be happy to support such a business scheme  

Ah, such a depressing topic. I need some blue!

Modifié par Erenbe, 07 mai 2012 - 09:44 .

[Akernis]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Erenbe wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

And we don't get to actually spend enough time on purely Asari places to get a close enough look at Asari culture itself, unfortunately.

Well, it's perfect DLC material. I bet my unborn child that Bioware will release extra missions on Thessia. Seeing that Tuchanka and Rannoch had several missions, it seems weird that they only made one for Thessia. So yeah....after the EC they will try to cash in more by releasing a Thessia DLC. That and of course "Retake Omega" because it wasn't obvious at all that this part was missing in the game!  

It's perfect DLC material, because the Asari and Thessia got shafted hard by ME3. Not just in that what happens to them is extremely negative, but in the sheer quantity and quality of their content compared to the other races.

I would ****ing love DLC that gave you more missions on Thessia and really fleshed out the Asari and Thessia more. There's so much potential for actually getting to land on Thessia and it's just completely squandered.

Especially with Liara a long - imagine all that actually getting to visit and explore Thessia could do for a Shep/Liara romance - especially if you allow this before the Reapers land and actually start attacking. They could visit places Liara grew up at, and Liara could just introduce Shep personally to lots of bits of her home life and Asari culture up close and personal.

Aside from the ways to involve Liara, there's just actually fleshing out the Asari more, too, because they just don't really do anything in ME3. Get some chances to get accustomed to Thessia and try to help them prepare before the Reapers hit.

Agreed completly.

It would also be nice if something you did there could make a difference. 
I know Thessia is supossed fall for the sake of drama and I understand that, I am not fine with it but I understand. But if what you did could help save at least some portion of its civilians and military or gave them a chance to evacuate it would be great for me.
Of course what I would want most of all was to be able to save it or at the very least help the asari defend and evacuate their home, if not during its fall than afterwards. But I would settle for spendind some time on Thessia before the invasion and then get some more aid from them while helping them prepare in return. 

I still can't really figure out how I fell about the intent with Thessia, on one hand I like the impact it had on the story that you lost and how the various character especially Shepard reacted (Liara comfort not withstanding) on the other hand I really like the asari and they are the ones I most would want to help save.

[Tyranniac]

Erenbe wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...
It's perfect DLC material, because the Asari and Thessia got shafted hard by ME3. Not just in that what happens to them is extremely negative, but in the sheer quantity and quality of their content compared to the other races.

I would ****ing love DLC that gave you more missions on Thessia and really fleshed out the Asari and Thessia more. There's so much potential for actually getting to land on Thessia and it's just completely squandered.

Especially with Liara a long - imagine all that actually getting to visit and explore Thessia could do for a Shep/Liara romance - especially if you allow this before the Reapers land and actually start attacking. They could visit places Liara grew up at, and Liara could just introduce Shep personally to lots of bits of her home life and Asari culture up close and personal.

Aside from the ways to involve Liara, there's just actually fleshing out the Asari more, too, because they just don't really do anything in ME3. Get some chances to get accustomed to Thessia and try to help them prepare before the Reapers hit.

Oh I'm with you there. It would be grand to explore Thessia a bit more and have a chance to see the interactions you are describing. But I am rather conflicted about such a DLC. With LotSB and even Arrival it never felt as if the DLC were a crucial part of the game. I mean...they are great to play and all and in hindsight I would be sad not to have them but if they wouldn't exist it wouldn't diminish the quality of the game (in this case ME2). They were extras that made a nice game even nicer.

Additional missions on Thessia, Retake Omega....it would be so obvious that integral parts of the game have been omitted to be sold later. That's just splitting a game up into parts to cash in as much as possible. At least that is the feeling I would get.

I might still get a Thessia DLC because of the asari and Liara but I wouldn't be happy to support such a business scheme  

Ah, such a depressing topic. I need some blue!

That's just nonsense. A Thessia DLC wouldn't be any different than LotSB in my opinion. I don't see any issue.

[lillitheris]

The concept of asari preferences and attraction is complex, if we try to look at it from an evolutionary biology standpoint.

Generally, my theory – I should expand upon this in the Intro to Physiology – is that the relationships in the actual breeding stage, matronhood, are by necessity long-term, the offspring needing at a minimum 25-30 years of care. Introducing fluctuations and new attractions would be largely an undesirable trait.

Because of their unique requirements, it would seem reasonable that a sexual identity develops over a longer period of time – the maidenhood. During this period, the receptors responsible for measuring attraction (whether chemical or mental) are essentially overloaded to allow suppressing evolutionary orientation. During the stage, those receptors may also be ‘reprogrammed’ to some degree, perhaps adding or subtracting the markers that can trigger attraction in the future, as well as tailoring the asari’s own chemistry to correspond better to certain types. At the same time, this process can’t be completely exclusive…

I don’t really like the idea of super-pheromones as Rae implies a few times; I don’t think – well, really, I just don’t like it – the asari are ‘bewitching’ others. It’s simply more that a particular asari may 1. correspond closely to what the other party is looking for and 2. also be attracted to the other herself.

[Tyranniac]

lillitheris wrote...

The concept of asari preferences and attraction is complex, if we try to look at it from an evolutionary biology standpoint.

Generally, my theory – I should expand upon this in the Intro to Physiology – is that the relationships in the actual breeding stage, matronhood, are by necessity long-term, the offspring needing at a minimum 25-30 years of care. Introducing fluctuations and new attractions would be largely an undesirable trait.

Because of their unique requirements, it would seem reasonable that a sexual identity develops over a longer period of time – the maidenhood. During this period, the receptors responsible for measuring attraction (whether chemical or mental) are essentially overloaded to allow suppressing evolutionary orientation. During the stage, those receptors may also be ‘reprogrammed’ to some degree, perhaps adding or subtracting the markers that can trigger attraction in the future, as well as tailoring the asari’s own chemistry to correspond better to certain types. At the same time, this process can’t be completely exclusive…

I don’t really like the idea of super-pheromones as Rae implies a few times; I don’t think – well, really, I just don’t like it – the asari are ‘bewitching’ others. It’s simply more that a particular asari may 1. correspond closely to what the other party is looking for and 2. also be attracted to the other herself.

Don't you think it would be easier if you just said "I think they develop their preferences during their maiden years" ather than this slightly-too-fancy text? Anyway, not sure if I agree or not, haven't given much thought to this before.

When does Rae imply "bewitching" by the way? Have only read the "...Can Wait" stories and don't recall anything like that in them. 

Modifié par Tyranniac, 07 mai 2012 - 10:06 .

[Akernis]

I know we passed the fanfic discussion but I just have a question, when you guys read ME fanfics do you prefer when the author uses Shepard's first name so that it is more realistic or when he/she is simply referred to as "Shepard" so that it is more immersive?

[Tyranniac]

Akernis wrote...

I know we passed the fanfic discussion but I just have a question, when you guys read ME fanfics do you prefer when the author uses Shepard's first name so that it is more realistic or when he/she is simply referred to as "Shepard" so that it is more immersive?

Well, this isn't exactly an answer to your question, but related:

I decided that my Shepard is embarassed by her first name for reasons unknown, and doesn't wish anyone to use it (this way explaining why Liara uses Shepard's last name in the game.).

[Wulfram]

Akernis wrote...

I know we passed the fanfic discussion but I just have a question, when you guys read ME fanfics do you prefer when the author uses Shepard's first name so that it is more realistic or when he/she is simply referred to as "Shepard" so that it is more immersive?

I'd rather read about a specific Shepard than a generic one.  So using a first name is good.

[Barquiel]

Akernis wrote...

Agreed completly.

It would also be nice if something you did there could make a difference. 
I know Thessia is supossed fall for the sake of drama and I understand that, I am not fine with it but I understand. But if what you did could help save at least some portion of its civilians and military or gave them a chance to evacuate it would be great for me.
Of course what I would want most of all was to be able to save it or at the very least help the asari defend and evacuate their home, if not during its fall than afterwards. But I would settle for spendind some time on Thessia before the invasion and then get some more aid from them while helping them prepare in return. 

I still can't really figure out how I fell about the intent with Thessia, on one hand I like the impact it had on the story that you lost and how the various character especially Shepard reacted (Liara comfort not withstanding) on the other hand I really like the asari and they are the ones I most would want to help save.

Well, it's probably fake but there are rumors about about what some new multiplayer DLC might contain...and Thessia is one of two new locations.

[Erenbe]

Tyranniac wrote...

Akernis wrote...

I know we passed the fanfic discussion but I just have a question, when you guys read ME fanfics do you prefer when the author uses Shepard's first name so that it is more realistic or when he/she is simply referred to as "Shepard" so that it is more immersive?

Well, this isn't exactly an answer to your question, but related:

I decided that my Shepard is embarassed by her first name for reasons unknown, and doesn't wish anyone to use it (this way explaining why Liara uses Shepard's last name in the game.).

 Well that is one way of addressing the issue.

Personally I prefer the Shepard approach. Meaning, no first names in fanfics. For one, I am often not very impressed with the names that are chosen (personal preference....that is all) and secondly, I can transfer the story easier to my Shepard. 

[Aristobulus500]

Erenbe wrote...
Oh I'm with you there. It would be grand to explore Thessia a bit more and have a chance to see the interactions you are describing. But I am rather conflicted about such a DLC. With LotSB and even Arrival it never felt as if the DLC were a crucial part of the game. I mean...they are great to play and all and in hindsight I would be sad not to have them but if they wouldn't exist it wouldn't diminish the quality of the game (in this case ME2). They were extras that made a nice game even nicer.

Additional missions on Thessia, Retake Omega....it would be so obvious that integral parts of the game have been omitted to be sold later. That's just splitting a game up into parts to cash in as much as possible. At least that is the feeling I would get.

I might still get a Thessia DLC because of the asari and Liara but I wouldn't be happy to support such a business scheme  

Ah, such a depressing topic. I need some blue!

I disagree. I think LotSB is extremely crucial to any playthrough of ME2, especially if you're a Liaramancer. Even if you're not, it's so powerful and so good it can turn you into one. It's easily some of the best content in the entire trilogy, and I would be more than happy to support them in making additional content that's on the level of LotSB.

If you're worried about "well that's content that should've been in the game originally" keep in mind that as far as LotSB is concerned, it would've been much worse if it was release content - there were actual files - sound files and voice clips and such like that - on the disc itself that showed LotSB was in development. But the LotSB those hinted at was a much weaker, shallower version that would've just been a continuation of the same Liara we saw in ME2, with nothing fulfilling for her relationship with Shepard.

It was precisely because they waited - they developed and made content for LotSB after the game came out and they heard fan criticisms and complaints about Liara and her relationship in ME2, that they so drastically were able to improve on it and give us that high quality DLC they did.

They could do the same thing with Thessia and Liara again here.

Akernis wrote...
Agreed completly.

It would also be nice if something you did there could make a difference. 
I
know Thessia is supossed fall for the sake of drama and I understand
that, I am not fine with it but I understand. But if what you did could
help save at least some portion of its civilians and military or gave
them a chance to evacuate it would be great for me.
Of course what I
would want most of all was to be able to save it or at the very least
help the asari defend and evacuate their home, if not during its fall
than afterwards. But I would settle for spendind some time on Thessia
before the invasion and then get some more aid from them while helping
them prepare in return. 

I still can't really figure out how I
fell about the intent with Thessia, on one hand I like the impact it had
on the story that you lost and how the various character especially
Shepard reacted (Liara comfort not withstanding) on the other hand I
really like the asari and they are the ones I most would want to help
save.

Yeah, exactly. Of course the Asari are my favorite race - I've got that Thessian fever after all - and I desperately wanted the ability to save them, and save Thessia.

But even if that is not allowed, for storyline/narrative reasons, you should've atleast been able to show more care for Liara and Thessia, especially as a Liaramancer Shep. Definitely should've been able to do something to help with saving some of the populace or just..something like you say.

Not just abandoning it and forgetting about Thessia and its people.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

lillitheris wrote...

The concept of asari preferences and attraction is complex, if we try to look at it from an evolutionary biology standpoint.

Generally, my theory – I should expand upon this in the Intro to Physiology – is that the relationships in the actual breeding stage, matronhood, are by necessity long-term, the offspring needing at a minimum 25-30 years of care. Introducing fluctuations and new attractions would be largely an undesirable trait.

Because of their unique requirements, it would seem reasonable that a sexual identity develops over a longer period of time – the maidenhood. During this period, the receptors responsible for measuring attraction (whether chemical or mental) are essentially overloaded to allow suppressing evolutionary orientation. During the stage, those receptors may also be ‘reprogrammed’ to some degree, perhaps adding or subtracting the markers that can trigger attraction in the future, as well as tailoring the asari’s own chemistry to correspond better to certain types. At the same time, this process can’t be completely exclusive…

I don’t really like the idea of super-pheromones as Rae implies a few times; I don’t think – well, really, I just don’t like it – the asari are ‘bewitching’ others. It’s simply more that a particular asari may 1. correspond closely to what the other party is looking for and 2. also be attracted to the other herself.

Doesn't the game already state that the Asari have "super-pheromones"? Mordin mentions on Illium that just being near asari can make salarians aroused despite their lack of a sex drive. Also remember Morinth who had people drool over her long after she was done talking to them (the first guy you meet in the VIP club who talks about expel 10). Granted Morinth is an extreme case.

[MidnightRaith]

Dude on Fire wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

It probably depends on the culture the Asari find themselves immersed in. An Asari on a human dominated planet or area, or on the Citadel, is probably more likely to think of things along masculine/feminine terms and perhaps form an individual taste for one over the other.

An Asari in a largely Asari controlled area like Thessia or something? Probably much, much less likely to do so. It probably just comes down to individual Asari preferences in those cases or something.

Still, it is known that human ******-/bisexuality per definition is "carried" from birth (whether if it manifests in puberty or not), just like heterosexuality is. I can choose to be gay all I want, I won't be. I can also be raised in a family with ie. two dads, but it'll only open my eyes and make me have greater tolerance for different sexuality. If I'm actually altering my sexuality solely because of my surroundings, then I've misunderstood the definition of sexuality. It's something completely personal, something that is in the very core of our selves - our souls, if you will. But since Asari are per deinition bisexual, it would probably work a lot different for them. I wonder if there are monosexual Asari... just to spice up my theory.

That would suggest that scientists would have found a "sexuality" gene in our genome if ******/hetero/bisexuality were determined at birth. I may be Christian, but I don't ignore science and I love biology. It's not actually "known" as you claim. However, it is known that geneticists have mapped out the human genome. They've discovered that everything from Epilepsy, to whether or not someone is inclined to be introverted is already in our genes. There are the Mendelan traits, such as tongue rolling and eye color in the case of brown vs blue, that are determined by one gene you inherit from you parents.

Then there are far more complex traits such as eye color in the case of green, hazel and the like, height and Epilepsy as I mentioned, that are determined by a variety of genes. Sexuality has not been found in either of these types of traits. The only reason people seem to think that this would be so is because there are actual, biological differences between heterosexual and homosexual people as far as the brain goes. However, instead of a gene, development during puberty would explain the differences because it is known that humans go through extensive development, biologically and psychologically, during this time.

If we were to find the "sexuality" gene (which I doubt because we've come a long way in mapping out the human genome) I'd accept it. I'm not exactly strict on homosexuality and bisexuality issue considering I'm the latter. However, claiming that one is a certain orientation at birth seems like an excuse or an attempt to be politically correct. Something along the lines of "I'm gay, and I can't help it." However, it's a bit pointless anyway. Considering this is something that happens during puberty, it would still be something people can't change so, you'd still be gay and you'd still be unable to help it.....

[Aristobulus500]

Akernis wrote...

I know we passed the fanfic discussion but I just have a question, when you guys read ME fanfics do you prefer when the author uses Shepard's first name so that it is more realistic or when he/she is simply referred to as "Shepard" so that it is more immersive?

I prefer when they just use the name "Shepard" since that's all that ever gets said in game. It's come to the point where "Shepard" actually feels like his first name rather than a last name.

Sure, it makes things odd when you realize even a close, intimate lover like Liara is still calling him by his last name, but it's easy to let slide.

It's just what Shepard goes by - just like how some people will go by their middle name or something like that.

[Akernis]

Aristobulus500 wrote...
I disagree. I think LotSB is extremely crucial to any playthrough of ME2, especially if you're a Liaramancer. Even if you're not, it's so powerful and so good it can turn you into one. It's easily some of the best content in the entire trilogy, and I would be more than happy to support them in making additional content that's on the level of LotSB.

It was precisely because they waited - they developed and made content for LotSB after the game came out and they heard fan criticisms and complaints about Liara and her relationship in ME2, that they so drastically were able to improve on it and give us that high quality DLC they did.

They could do the same thing with Thessia and Liara again here.

Agreed and that is what I really hope for

Aristobulus500 wrote...
Yeah, exactly. Of course the Asari are my favorite race - I've got that Thessian fever after all - and I desperately wanted the ability to save them, and save Thessia.

But even if that is not allowed, for storyline/narrative reasons, you should've atleast been able to show more care for Liara and Thessia, especially as a Liaramancer Shep. Definitely should've been able to do something to help with saving some of the populace or just..something like you say.

Not just abandoning it and forgetting about Thessia and its people.

If/when I get there I am so going to devote minimum an entire fanfic chapter to fix that (unless the do make it a DLC, in which case I would run in little cicles of joy... after playing through it half a dozen times ).