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[DarkCloudd]

Kaelef wrote...

Just captured this in ME1 and though it was purty....

It definately is. I'm gonna enjoy this next playthrough of ME1, got a new graphics card in my computer and ME1 looks .

[PMC65]

MidnightRaith wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

I enjoyed hearing Ash & Kaidan talk about Virmire to Tali as well. It is a shame that these weren't in the game. There was a really good dialogue with Shepard & Ashley that got cut as well where she asks if he saw anything when he died. He tells her that he didn't ... This for me would have been a really honest and in character dialogue between Ashley and PV Shepard.  

I saw that cut too and I felt that the game really should have kept it. Ashley is a rather good example of a video game character that believes in God. Really, it's actually a break in her character that she doesn't ask Shepard about his/her death. To be honest, I would have liked to talk with her about this because I would have been interested in the question myself, especially if we had an option to lean towards seeing something if the player was religious themselves. So many cut corners.... 

I know that things needed to be cut but with the VS there was so little really that it would have been nice to keep what there was. Shepard really never gets to talk about dying, the hereafter, etc in the game ... I guess that Bioware figured to just not go there. But then it also allows each of us to fill in the blanks.

Nharia1 wrote...

@PMC
I'm really enjoying The Shepherdess and the Questing Beast. Oh I can't wait for the next chapter. >,<

Thanks!

I am always grateful and truth be told surprised to hear that others like my headcanon for EW Shepard & Liara. 

[Yuqi]

rubynorman wrote...

I like the concept of being able to choose whatever universe you like to live in.

Yuqi wrote...

So I just started a default 'numerous casulties' playthrough of ME3. Liara says commander in the ' isn't it worth trying at least' convo instead of her saying Shepard. I was wondering if that also happens with an import that doesn't have Liara as the LI, or if it's only in the default.

I just used my friend's save files. She didn't play ME1 and romanced Tali in ME2, and did the lotSB DLC. Liara said " Commander. isn't it worth trying at least"

TY for that.

Ahh so Liara saying "Shepard isn't it worth trying at least.' must be exclusive to a romance import.( But my imports had LOTSB completed with reaffirmation, so it might just be LOTSB import?)

Modifié par Yuqi, 08 mai 2012 - 06:09 .

[TheMarshal]

Akernis wrote...

I know we passed the fanfic discussion but I just have a question, when you guys read ME fanfics do you prefer when the author uses Shepard's first name so that it is more realistic or when he/she is simply referred to as "Shepard" so that it is more immersive?

Resurrecting an old question since I wasn't here all day.

It depends on the perspective.  If the narration is focused on other characters, "Shepard" makes sense.  Liara et al would likely refer to Shepard as "Shepard," save for more intimate moments.  If it's Shepard herself/himself as the primary POV, though, it feels odd.  I suppose your mileage may vary, but whenever I read a story that insists on referring to Shepard as "Shepard," even when they are the primary POV character, I feel hugely disconnected from the story.  I'm not reading a story about "Shepard".  I'm reading a story about a Shepard, and that Shepard has a name.

[Nharia1]

PMC65 wrote...

Nharia1 wrote...

@PMC
I'm really enjoying The Shepherdess and the Questing Beast. Oh I can't wait for the next chapter. >,<

Thanks!

I am always grateful and truth be told surprised to hear that others like my headcanon for EW Shepard & Liara. 

Welcome~! I really like A Thessian Whisper as well, I'm wondering if Liara will see the Prothean afrtifact that she gave to "Preacher Woman" and if Shepard will see the cross that was given to her... :happy:

[Akernis]

Thanks all of you for answering about the name question. Much appreciated

[MidnightRaith]

PMC65 wrote...

I know that things needed to be cut but with the VS there was so little really that it would have been nice to keep what there was. Shepard really never gets to talk about dying, the hereafter, etc in the game ... I guess that Bioware figured to just not go there. But then it also allows each of us to fill in the blanks.

There's just so much to fill in already, what with the ending.... Ah well, I guess this is more inspiration for some fanfic at least.

PMC65 wrote...

I am always grateful and truth be told surprised to hear that others like my headcanon for EW Shepard & Liara. 

People like it because it's well written. 

TheMarshal wrote...

Resurrecting an old question since I wasn't here all day.

It depends on the perspective.  If the narration is focused on other characters, "Shepard" makes sense.  Liara et al would likely refer to Shepard as "Shepard," save for more intimate moments.  If it's Shepard herself/himself as the primary POV, though, it feels odd.  I suppose your mileage may vary, but whenever I read a story that insists on referring to Shepard as "Shepard," even when they are the primary POV character, I feel hugely disconnected from the story.  I'm not reading a story about "Shepard".  I'm reading a story about a Shepard, and that Shepard has a name.

I agree with this. Third Person Limited in Shepard's point of view should use his or her first name. Not to do so would seem unnatural. Same with First Person.

However, Third Person Limited or First Person when not in Shepard's pov and Third Person Omniscent, it just feels better to me to use "Shepard" the majority of the time. Otherwise, it seems like the author is just forcing intimacy where it wouldn't be warranted.

Modifié par MidnightRaith, 08 mai 2012 - 06:39 .

[CptData]

Think I should share that with you guys - or:

How I finally made peace with Liara.
For the record: the "gift scene" on Earth gave me some issues earlier. I never was able to take the renegade answer since it would make my Shepard feeling like a d*ck towards Liara - who simply doesn't deserve it, after all what she had done for him.

Still, it also felt not right to accept the gift. Main reason is ... well, the "mindsex argument". However, I think I found a way out of this ... thanks to PMC65. She gave me the right idea.

Have a read

CptData wrote...

PMC65 wrote...


As someone who has a Shepard for each I don't see them being "friends" but also not "enemies". With my male Shepard who is with Ash he considers Liara a friend ... This might sometimes make Ashley a little jealous but it does not stop her from being concerned about Liara after Noveria, Thessia and she even protects Liara from the crazy metal woman.

When it comes to the "gift" if I ever play PV Shepard in ME3 (due to the ending I've never played my canon EW or my guy PV) he would accept the gift. Contrary to what some think they did not "meld" and have mind sex. She touched his mind like in ME1 ... nothing more. PV Shepard would not consider what they did cheating since it was by no means sexual in nature and is just a way that the asari can communicate. But I also could see a Shepard turning her down because (s)he hates that type of communication/exchange.

I dunno. It highly depends on your interpretation. My Shepard accepted the gift and doesn't consider it as "cheating" or something, but it's still a very intimate experience.

Keep in mind: women tend to see emotional attachment as cheating, men consider sex as cheating. So we have two different levels of "when does cheating start". Let's say Liara just shared memories and didn't do any sexy mindsex stuff, it's still scratching the "emotional attachment level". Ash could consider it as cheating, especially since she had displayed little understanding of Asari culture before.

So even if my Shepard does not consider it as "cheating", Ash may do. She's the jealous type and out of the women in the series, Liara urges Ash more violent responses. Won't debate here if that's fair or not, but I can see where it comes from and I can see the misunderstandings. My Shepard wants to keep Liara as a friend. Ashley may mind that - or at least won't feel that easy. Yeah, she might not hate Liara, but she definitely won't feel easy as well.
Liara on the other hand, being an Asari, has the "disadvantage" of her foreign culture. She's not that much experienced with human (western) culture and therefore may run into issues. Especially since her attempts to be a friend of Shepard can be mistaken as romantic interest (which may be the case). Ash needs to accept that fact and Liara may tune down it a bit and there is a high chance they get along one day.


That, of course, is just my interpretation and headcanon. Actually, on the long run Ash & Liara become as close friends as Liara is with Shepard already.

[Tyranniac]

Wulfram wrote...

Liara: And then Marianne said ...
Joker: Wait, who the **** is Marianne
Liara: Er...
Vega: I think Doc means Lola, Joker
Shepard: Commander Marianne Shepard, Joker. I believe we've met? Don't worry, it's still Shepard to you.

This made me laugh way more than it should have.

CptData wrote...

Think I should share that with you guys - or:

How I finally made peace with Liara.
For the record: the "gift scene" on Earth gave me some issues earlier. I never was able to take the renegade answer since it would make my Shepard feeling like a d*ck towards Liara - who simply doesn't deserve it, after all what she had done for him.

Still, it also felt not right to accept the gift. Main reason is ... well, the "mindsex argument". However, I think I found a way out of this ... thanks to PMC65. She gave me the right idea.

Have a read

 

Good that you realized it wasn't mindsex. 

And I could see Ashley still having some issues with it due to limited knowledge of asari culture, yes.

[Yuqi]

I can no longer see freckleshep with anyone else but Liara.
I blame this thread and *cough* neeh. 

Modifié par Yuqi, 08 mai 2012 - 09:10 .

[Theodoro]

Hey, everybody!

I've been a long-time lurker here and because I couldn't get my game registered for quite some time I only managed to read through this thread and occasionally save some of the posted pictures here, but now that I did register I can finally post.

It's great to see so many Liara fans and I'd love to discuss our favorite asari with the rest of you, and maybe share my grief over the atrocious ending(s) that neither Mass Effect 3 nor any of the characters within deserve. That's my personal opinion, of course, the lack of closure between Shepard and Liara one of the many reasons I feel that way. I try not to be hopeful that the Extended Cut will fix them, but I can't help it sometimes.

Anyway, it's great to be finally here!

Modifié par Theodoro, 08 mai 2012 - 10:00 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Yuqi wrote...

I can no longer see freckleshep with anyone else but Liara.
I blame this thread and *cough* neeh. 

You're not alone. I practically tossed Kaidan overboard after LotSB.   I'm not saying he's a bad LI but, he never went to the lengths Liara did (albeit I did have some resverations on her actions) and he was most annoying in ME 2.  His attitude improved just a tinny bit in ME 3 but he still doesn't measure up to Liara.

[Yuqi]

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Yuqi wrote...

I can no longer see freckleshep with anyone else but Liara.
I blame this thread and *cough* neeh. 

You're not alone. I practically tossed Kaidan overboard after LotSB.   I'm not saying he's a bad LI but, he never went to the lengths Liara did (albeit I did have some resverations on her actions) and he was most annoying in ME 2.  His attitude improved just a tinny bit in ME 3 but he still doesn't measure up to Liara.

I played ME2 first so my first impression of Kaidan was not good to begin with lol. I painfully went through a me2 run loyal to kaidan, and then got to ME3 and dumped him ASAP(Should have killed him on that run..).Although He has one of the saddest lines in ME3 at the goodbye scene:

'We both know the score.We know this is goodbye.."

I'm glad Liara dosn't say that.(.I can barely handle Liara's 'It can also be a way to say farewell') Urrgh it was bad in the leak but with Allis and Hale it was just urrgh heartbreaking. Just as heart wrenching as Ricardos and *insert name of Liara french V.A  here* delivery of the entire romance.

@Theodoro

Welcome to the sanest thread on the ME3 forums.

Modifié par Yuqi, 08 mai 2012 - 10:42 .

[rubynorman]

Theodoro wrote...

Hey, everybody!

I've been a long-time lurker here and because I couldn't get my game registered for quite some time I only managed to read through this thread and occasionally save some of the posted pictures here, but now that I did register I can finally post.

It's great to see so many Liara fans and I'd love to discuss our favorite asari with the rest of you, and maybe share my grief over the atrocious ending(s) that neither Mass Effect 3 nor any of the characters within deserve. That's my personal opinion, of course, the lack of closure between Shepard and Liara one of the many reasons I feel that way. I try not to be hopeful that the Extended Cut will fix them, but I can't help it sometimes.

Anyway, it's great to be finally here!

Welcome aboard
I'm replaying ME2 and LotSB again and taking a lot of screenshots

[Theodoro]

Yuqi wrote...
@Theodoro

Welcome to the sanest thread on the ME3 forums.{smilie}

Definitely not sane anymore with my obsession with Liara!

rubynorman wrote...

Welcome aboard
I'm replaying ME2 and LotSB again and taking a lot of screenshots

Exactly what I'm doing. Back when you can notice that there's apparent passion behind the creation of every single mission, conversation, and planet. Especially the Suicide Mission and LotSB. It's about my sixth playthrough and I still stumble upon new things in the game. Truly a masterpiece!

[DarkCloudd]

Theodoro wrote...

Yuqi wrote...
@Theodoro

Welcome to the sanest thread on the ME3 forums.{smilie}

Definitely not sane anymore with my obsession with Liara!

rubynorman wrote...

Welcome aboard
I'm replaying ME2 and LotSB again and taking a lot of screenshots

Exactly what I'm doing. Back when you can notice that there's apparent passion behind the creation of every single mission, conversation, and planet. Especially the Suicide Mission and LotSB. It's about my sixth playthrough and I still stumble upon new things in the game. Truly a masterpiece!

None of us are sane with our Liara obsessions in this thread, we just manage to keep our insanity contained to the games of Mass Effect not the forums.

I'm gonna do a full trilogy playthrough with my new FemShep I made. Vanguard all the way through and of course a faithful Liaramancer.

and Welcome to the Liara thread!!!!

[Arcataye]

Using the first name in fanfics only annoys me if it's something like, let's say, DarkCloud Shepard. No offense DarkCloudd.
I just mean that if it's some "normal" name, it's fine. But I've seen a few fanfics that used forum nicknames for Shepard and it was too damn weird.

Wulfram wrote...

Liara: And then Marianne said ...
Joker: Wait, who the **** is Marianne
Liara: Er...
Vega: I think Doc means Lola, Joker
Shepard: Commander Marianne Shepard, Joker. I believe we've met? Don't worry, it's still Shepard to you.

More random dialogue that should be in the game.

DarkCloudd wrote...

It definately is. I'm gonna enjoy this next playthrough of ME1, got a new graphics card in my computer and ME1 looks.

ME1 HD Texture pack, throw that in and damn!

Modifié par Arcataye, 08 mai 2012 - 11:54 .

[The Lightspeaker]

TheMarshal wrote...

Resurrecting an old question since I wasn't here all day.

It depends on the perspective.  If the narration is focused on other characters, "Shepard" makes sense.  Liara et al would likely refer to Shepard as "Shepard," save for more intimate moments.  If it's Shepard herself/himself as the primary POV, though, it feels odd.  I suppose your mileage may vary, but whenever I read a story that insists on referring to Shepard as "Shepard," even when they are the primary POV character, I feel hugely disconnected from the story.  I'm not reading a story about "Shepard".  I'm reading a story about a Shepard, and that Shepard has a name.

Ok, my earlier response was really awkward. Marshal just put it WAAAAAY better than I did. So I'll just +1 this.

Yuqi wrote...

I can no longer see freckleshep with anyone else but Liara.
I blame this thread and *cough* neeh. 

Wait...it's POSSIBLE to have freckleshep go with someone other than Liara?

Theodoro wrote...

Hey, everybody!

I've been a
long-time lurker here and because I couldn't get my game registered for
quite some time I only managed to read through this thread and
occasionally save some of the posted pictures here, but now that I did
register I can finally post.

It's great to see so many Liara
fans and I'd love to discuss our favorite asari with the rest of you,
and maybe share my grief over the atrocious ending(s) that neither Mass
Effect 3 nor any of the characters within deserve. That's my personal
opinion, of course, the lack of closure between Shepard and Liara one of
the many reasons I feel that way. I try not to be hopeful that the
Extended Cut will fix them, but I can't help it sometimes.

Anyway, it's great to be finally here!

Welcome to the only truly safe thread on the forums.

Quite a few of us don't go out there to the rest of it anymore, it's scary. But in here is a happy place.


Wait...people are starting to talk about the ending? *sticks fingers in ears* Lalalalala...

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

@Arcataye, wow,

[quote]ME1 HD Texture pack, throw that in and damn![quote]

this mod create some probleam for the FPS ? or not ?

Liara is so sweet :-)

Modifié par FRANCESCO84Inn, 08 mai 2012 - 11:57 .

[Theodoro]

DarkCloudd wrote...
None of us are sane with our Liara obsessions in this thread, we just manage to keep our insanity contained to the games of Mass Effect not the forums.

I'm gonna do a full trilogy playthrough with my new FemShep I made. Vanguard all the way through and of course a faithful Liaramancer.

and Welcome to the Liara thread!!!!

Thanks a lot for the warm welcome! I'm doing a new Liara playthrough myself with the only class I haven't played with so far - Engineer.

The Lightspeaker wrote...
Welcome to the only truly safe thread on the forums.

Quite a few of us don't go out there to the rest of it anymore, it's scary. But in here is a happy place. {smilie}


Wait...people are starting to talk about the ending? *sticks fingers in ears* Lalalalala...

I'm sorry that I brought it up! This is the topic for Liara, but I just wanted to say what I felt about it.

By the way, I've read most of your blogs, and I can't overstate how well you put what most of us feel in words. You've done a truly great job expressing why we care about the characters of Mass Effect, Shepard, about the universe and races as a whole, why this is more than just a game for us, and why we don't like seeing it torn apart with just ten minutes worth of in-game content.

[Arcataye]

FRANCESCO84Inn wrote...

@Arcataye, wow,

ME1 HD Texture pack, throw that in and damn!

this mod create some probleam for the FPS ? or not ?

Liara is so sweet :-)

No, it doesn't affect the FPS. It only requires more RAM.
Without the mod the game uses about ~700mb, with the performance pack it uses ~1600mb and the full pack uses ~2500mb.
I use the full pack. Just doing what that page says about bioengine.ini tweaks gives better visuals even without texmod.
Some femshep textures too.


Liara: Shepard! Shake those arms. Like this!
Javik: Primitives...
Joker: C'mon, they had some ryncol, don't be so serious all the time. You should have some too.
Javik: Drinking was punishable by death in my cycle.

Modifié par Arcataye, 08 mai 2012 - 12:19 .

[The Lightspeaker]

Theodoro wrote...

I'm sorry that I brought it up! This is the topic for Liara, but I just wanted to say what I felt about it.

Haha, it's ok, I'm just teasing. I was mainly aiming it at Yuqi talking about the "goodbyes" to be honest.

By the goddess I'm going to be so mad if they don't seriously fix stuff up in the EC.

By the way, I've read most of your blogs, and I can't overstate how
well you put what most of us feel in words. You've done a truly great
job expressing why we care about the characters of Mass Effect,
Shepard, about the universe and races as a whole, why this is more than
just a game for us, and why we don't like seeing it torn apart with just
ten minutes worth of in-game content.

Thanks! I'm thinking I'm going to write another blog sometime this week actually, bit of a desire to do some non-fanfic writing (since I've been using most of my free writing time on that lately).  Always glad to hear from people who have read my blogs; and honestly I'm always surprised to get positive feedback for my idle ramblings.

[Arcataye]

The Lightspeaker wrote...

Always glad to hear from people who have read my blogs; and honestly I'm always surprised to get positive feedback for my idle ramblings.

I've been linking this whenever I see someone talking about feeling weird being sad about the characters in the game or something similar. :3 How many views does it have?

Modifié par Arcataye, 08 mai 2012 - 12:22 .

[FRANCESCO84Inn]

@Arcataye

femshep%20textures]=http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/128/index/8565134/25#11863316]femshep textures textures too

wow, its amazing the result O.o

Modifié par FRANCESCO84Inn, 08 mai 2012 - 12:33 .

[The Lightspeaker]

Arcataye wrote...

I've been linking this whenever I see someone talking about feeling weird being sad about the characters in the game or something similar. :3 How many views does it have?

Haha, thanks for the advertising. It's up to 1200 views now.