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[Arcataye]

Tyranniac wrote...

If you were 100% sure you wouldn't have included the last sentance, more like 99%!

I'm 100% sure I'll never see Liara in real life, but I can still wish for that.

rubynorman wrote...

I don't know how to get a custom Liara avatar too.

I just linked the guides last page.

Modifié par Arcataye, 08 mai 2012 - 05:23 .

[Furean]

Kaelef wrote...

Theodoro wrote...

What I think it boils down to is that MaleShep has a lot more choices than FemShep does, so, naturally, MaleShep fans will split up among the numerous LIs that they can choose from.

I don't think MaleShep and Liara lack chemistry at all. It's just chance that they have less fan fiction material.

Good point.  I'd forgotten about the more limited choices femShep has available.

Still -- is it my imagination, or is there relatively little maleShep fiction/artwork.  Based strictly on the number of male players, you'd expect it to be the vast majority, no?

rubynorman wrote...

MShep + Liara

Nice! 

Those of us who prefer the BroShep x Liara pairing and thus make fanart/renders/fics for that do exist, and you can definitely find quite a lot of that if you look for it. But yeah, it might perhaps be the case that there is more for the femShep x Liara pairing.

Not that it matters to me, really. I personally find a lot of the femshep x Liara art that's been posted here and elsewhere as downright awesome.

Modifié par Furean, 08 mai 2012 - 05:28 .

[Ecrulis]

I do agree that the fact that there is so much fem shep + Liara stuff probably boils down to there just being more options for male shep. Personally I play femshep because I love Hale's VA (Im male btw) and thats really the extent of my reasoning.

EDIT: also for my cannon shep, renegade femshep is just pure badass VA fits so well.

Modifié par Ecrulis, 08 mai 2012 - 05:43 .

[yesikareyes]

rubynorman wrote...



 MShep + Liara


NSFW FShep + Liara
mallyxable.deviantart.com/art/Relaxation-300456244

EDIT: Quote fail nvm
@Arcataye  thanks for the links

Oh my lord, I think all the veins in my heart just exploded. They should have cute kitty emoticons here!

[Makrys]

 So, I've been reading this thread for awhile, and I decided it was time for me to jump in. I absolutely love Liara. Really, everything about her. She exemplifies what I look for in a woman, and the only thing I don't like about her is that I can't find a real woman like her! Her compassion, integrity, smarts, 'nerd' skills, subtle shyness, and just her overall beauty really do give me the star struck eyes. I've posted many times about her on these forums, and then decided I might as well join the thread solely devoted to her. Plus, it would be nice to escape all the negativity/ending talk every now and then. And everyone over here seems like a great big family, so I already feel welcomed onto the Liara section of the Normandy love boat. After all, it IS the best room in the house! 

This is one of my all time favorite pictures of her, so I thought it would be a worthy entrance/first post photo:



No matter what Liara will always be my beautiful blueberry space muffin. 

(And I don't even like blueberries! But for her... anything) 

Modifié par Makrys, 08 mai 2012 - 05:51 .

[Ecrulis]

Quick question, Im probably gonna have to do some research on a few things for my fan fic is Mass Effect Wiki a good source for that kind of thing or are there better websites?

[Akernis]

Kaelef wrote...
Still -- is it my imagination, or is there relatively little maleShep fiction/artwork.  Based strictly on the number of male players, you'd expect it to be the vast majority, no?

There is considerable more art of Femshep & Liara than the the other way around that is not to say that there is no good art of MShep & Liara there is simply not as much.

About fanfics, I can actually only remember having read two fanfics with MShep and Liara (Super-Clutch's Awakening series and Moreeman's various fics).

Kaelef wrote...

rubynorman wrote...

MShep + Liara

Nice! 

I agree wholeheartedly

[Ecrulis]

Makrys wrote...

 So, I've been reading this thread for awhile, and I decided it was time for me to jump in. I absolutely love Liara. Really, everything about her. She exemplifies what I look for in a woman, and the only thing I don't like about her is that I can't find a real woman like her! Her compassion, integrity, smarts, 'nerd' skills, subtle shyness, and just her overall beauty really do give me the star struck eyes. I've posted many times about her on these forums, and then decided I might as well join the thread solely devoted to her. Plus, it would be nice to escape all the negativity/ending talk every now and then. And everyone over here seems like a great big family, so I already feel welcomed onto the Liara section of Normandy love boat. After all, it IS the best room in the house! 

This is one of my all time favorite pictures of her, so I thought it would be a worthy entrance/first post photo:



No matter what Liara will always be my beautiful blue space muffin. 

Welcome to the thread  cake is in the corner...no wait I ate it all...opps

[Akernis]

Makrys wrote...
*Says what we all know*

Hi, welcome to the thread .

We seems to be getting a number of new aspirants lately.

Edit: Just found this one

Modifié par Akernis, 08 mai 2012 - 05:57 .

[Ecrulis]

Akernis wrote...

Makrys wrote...
*Says what we all know*

Hi, welcome to the thread .

We seems to be getting a number of new aspirants lately.

Yes, Yes we are, *gumbles something about forum domination*

[Makrys]

Akernis wrote...

Makrys wrote...
*Says what we all know*

Hi, welcome to the thread .

We seems to be getting a number of new aspirants lately.

Edit: Just found this one

Hey now, its my view too! 

And thats a lovely picture. Mmmmmm...

[Theodoro]

Welcome, Makrys! You really managed to point out why Liara has as many fans as she does. All of these qualities truly do make her one of the greatest characters and not just in Mass Effect, in my opinion! Glad to have you on board.

P.S. Finally got my new avatar working!

Modifié par Theodoro, 08 mai 2012 - 06:03 .

[Ecrulis]

Akernis wrote...

Makrys wrote...
*Says what we all know*

Hi, welcome to the thread .

We seems to be getting a number of new aspirants lately.

Edit: Just found this one

Im gonna go over...um...I...I think you broke my words

[TheCrimsonSpire]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

You're exactly right. Something you have to realize about these haters is that they aren't being reasonable. They aren't actually trying to make the game better, they aren't pointing out flaws with Liara or things that are inconsistent or bad about her, or "it doesn't make sense/is bad writing for this to happen"...it's not fair and reasonable complaints.

Most of it is pure jealousy and spite - they are mad that Liara got more coverage than their preferred character and they retaliate by lashing out at Liara and her fans. To be clear, they have perfectly valid complaints about how little screentime their LI's may have gotten, but the way they go about voicing things is all wrong - rather than making sound arguments and criticisms about what else needed to be done with their character, they would rather simply attack and tear down Liara. They choose to attempt to tear down Liara to their level instead of building up their LI to hers.

As you've no doubt seen yourself, most of their complaints are just petty nonsense easily dispelled - but they aren't listening. They don't WANT to listen and have a fair debate or argument because they don't *want* to be wrong about Liara. They've built up this fabricated, weaker character in their minds and slapped the label "Liara" on it and they rail against this imaginary character.

It's just petty flailing about, really.

QFT, this right here.

[Makrys]

Theodoro wrote...

Welcome, Makrys! You really managed to point out why Liara has as many fans as she does. All of these qualities truly do make her one of the greatest characters and not just in Mass Effect, in my opinion! Glad to have you on board.

Glad to be aboard. She's worth it. 

[Makrys]

TheCrimsonSpire wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

You're exactly right. Something you have to realize about these haters is that they aren't being reasonable. They aren't actually trying to make the game better, they aren't pointing out flaws with Liara or things that are inconsistent or bad about her, or "it doesn't make sense/is bad writing for this to happen"...it's not fair and reasonable complaints.

Most of it is pure jealousy and spite - they are mad that Liara got more coverage than their preferred character and they retaliate by lashing out at Liara and her fans. To be clear, they have perfectly valid complaints about how little screentime their LI's may have gotten, but the way they go about voicing things is all wrong - rather than making sound arguments and criticisms about what else needed to be done with their character, they would rather simply attack and tear down Liara. They choose to attempt to tear down Liara to their level instead of building up their LI to hers.

As you've no doubt seen yourself, most of their complaints are just petty nonsense easily dispelled - but they aren't listening. They don't WANT to listen and have a fair debate or argument because they don't *want* to be wrong about Liara. They've built up this fabricated, weaker character in their minds and slapped the label "Liara" on it and they rail against this imaginary character.

It's just petty flailing about, really.

QFT, this right here.

Agreed. Its depressing to see it. But regardless, you make a good point. And that point is... that its pointless.

[Tyranniac]

Ecrulis wrote...

Quick question, Im probably gonna have to do some research on a few things for my fan fic is Mass Effect Wiki a good source for that kind of thing or are there better websites?

I would say the wiki is a great source for information, but remember that they are very strict, so sometimes things that are obvious but not specifically confirmed will not be there, and sometimes articles are a bit outdated, but a good source for information.

[Aristobulus500]

Akernis wrote...

Makrys wrote...
*Says what we all know*

Hi, welcome to the thread .

We seems to be getting a number of new aspirants lately.

Edit: Just found this one

Damn, that's a new one on me. I really like it - the artistic, smooth, sleek quality to the whole thing - how it's a full body shot to let you take in Liara entirely - and of course, that expression on her face. Really fitting...

[lillitheris]

Alright, enough about the haters!

[Akernis]

Makrys wrote...

Akernis wrote...

Makrys wrote...
*Says what we all know*

Hi, welcome to the thread .

Hey now, its my view too! 

And that is why you are more than welcome here

Modifié par Akernis, 08 mai 2012 - 06:32 .

[DarkCloudd]

Akernis wrote...

Makrys wrote...
*Says what we all know*

Hi, welcome to the thread .

We seems to be getting a number of new aspirants lately.

Edit: Just found this one

Well....I....umm.... so much for taking a warm shower I think it should be a cold one.

[Robhuzz]

rubynorman wrote...



 MShep + Liara


NSFW FShep + Liara
mallyxable.deviantart.com/art/Relaxation-300456244

EDIT: Quote fail nvm
@Arcataye  thanks for the links

Sweet! Now just add a lot of blown off armor, a lot of wounds, weary faces and change the background so they're on Earth after the battle, waiting for alliance medics to pick them up. It's kind of how I wanted the battle itself to end...

[Tyranniac]

frudi wrote...

It would be interesting to see Bioware's statistical data on these issues (how many male/female players play as bro/femShep, how many of which romance which NPC, how many of which stay faithful, etc.

There's a bit of a problem with this: A lot of people have several playthroughs.

Edit: Oh, top... uh... let me think for a moment.

Edit 2: Ah what the hell I'll just post one of Neeh's lovely pictures, they can't be posted enough:

 

Modifié par Tyranniac, 08 mai 2012 - 06:52 .

[Aristobulus500]

frudi wrote...

Well, I've been away from this thread for a couple of days, only occasionally peeking in to try and keep up. Seems I've missed a few interesting topics...

I did take the time to read Rae's '... can wait' fanfics (and subsequently some of her others as well) and all I can say is 'WOW!'. They were really amazing... passionate, hot, tasteful, well paced and, maybe most importantly, totally faithful to the characters we've come to know from the games (at least to how me and probably most of us here have come to interpret them). I also didn't get the impression they were in any way overly explicit - even the most descriptive and explicit parts aren't there just for the hell of it, rather they help to portray the passion and intimacy between Liara and Shep. Really an amazing read, thanks to everyone for linking and recommending them (I'd thank the author for writing them, but guess she'll never read this).
I will definitely be incorporating these scenes into my own mental vision of what joining with an asari would feel like .

Exactly. I've definitely incorporated that into my own canon. I can't comprehend it being any other way after seeing it so masterfully portrayed there - it made perfect sense. Especially the way the Joining was so completely integral to an Asari.

And you make a good point - even the most explicit parts DID have a purpose beyond mere titillating fanservice. That's part of what made it all so powerful, even the "hottest" bits served a strong purpose in showing the love and intimacy between Shep/Liara, none of it was sex for sex's sake.