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Tyranniac wrote...

 So silent... 

Anyone out there?


Present and accounted for, I just have said anything I could think of to the conversation. 

@ Moreeman, nice picture, I haven't seen that one before.

Okay I have a little technical issure, when you guys link to your fanfics in your signatures how do you edit it so that it shows the name/chapter number etc instead of just the long random link you get when copy pasting?

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moreeman06 wrote...


Image IPB 
new one from magicalzebra 
http://magicalzebra....kissu-301478726 


While I like her other Shep/Liara art, the necks look... wrong, in this one.

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Just finished my first mass effect fan art. I've had a few ideas for ME comics in my head for a while but I've only now managed to finish one. 
 
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Akernis wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...

 So silent... 

Anyone out there?


Present and accounted for, I just have said anything I could think of to the conversation. 

@ Moreeman, nice picture, I haven't seen that one before.

Okay I have a little technical issure, when you guys link to your fanfics in your signatures how do you edit it so that it shows the name/chapter number etc instead of just the long random link you get when copy pasting?


type the name of the fic or the word link next to it

highlight the words

then press the insert/edit link button in the toolbar and it should give you a place to copy the link

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Tyranniac wrote...

 So silent... 

Anyone out there?

Well, I don't really have anything specific to add regarding the current topic(s)... except maybe a bunch of 'agree' posts, but those don't really add to the discussion :)

Akernis wrote...

Okay I have a little technical issure, when you guys link to your fanfics in your signatures how do you edit it so that it shows the name/chapter number etc instead of just the long random link you get when copy pasting?

I haven't tried putting links in my sig, but I imagine it's the same as links in posts:

[url=http://link.to.your.fanfic]name of chapter[/url] (hope this turns out right)

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moreeman06 wrote...

type the name of the fic or the word link next to it

highlight the words

then press the insert/edit link button in the toolbar and it should give you a place to copy the link


I just place the link where I want it and then type what I want the link to be called in the middle of it before removing the edges :huh:

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frudi wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...

 So silent... 

Anyone out there?

Well, I don't really have anything specific to add regarding the current topic(s)... except maybe a bunch of 'agree' posts, but those don't really add to the discussion :)

 

Maybe not, but they make me happy :lol:

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Tyranniac wrote...

 So silent... 

Anyone out there?

Well, I'm back and started reading here again, if that counts for anything. :P

Semi-voluntary break from the BSN set me back for about a hundred pages. Maybe I should challenge Karmen to a catch-up race now ...

So ... anything interesting I missed? ;)


Akernis wrote...
Okay I have a little technical issure, when you guys link to your fanfics in your signatures how do you edit it so that it shows the name/chapter number etc instead of just the long random link you get when copy pasting?

Just use this BBCode (without the *):

[url*=http://www.adress.com]Title[/url]

That example would create a link to "http://www.adress.com", showing up as "Title"


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Just finished my first mass effect fan art. I've had a few ideas for ME comics in my head for a while but I've only now managed to finish one.
*snip*

Hehe, cute one :lol:


€dit
Argh, mutli-ninja'd ... guess some things won't ever change :D


€dit 2
And nice picture, moreeman.
Spent hours sorting through masses of ME deviations today, but somehow I missed that ...

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...so what your saying i guess is that the Reapers should have been destroyed by a unrealistically small amount of troops and all those troops should have survived.  Dark Cloud i like your logicB)

Funny, just today I chimed in on the merits of using nuclear weapons against the Reapers in another thread. Reading through the thread I came to realise the militaries of Citadel races are run by incompetent idiots <_<. The Reapers could easily have been defeated 'conventionally' if all the races had taken the time before the invasion to construct a butt-load of autonomous drones armed with nuclear weapons. Just a couple of successfully delivered warheads per Reaper capital ship would have completely devastated them, with practically minimal losses for the Citadel fleets.

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frudi wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

...so what your saying i guess is that the Reapers should have been destroyed by a unrealistically small amount of troops and all those troops should have survived.  Dark Cloud i like your logicB)

Funny, just today I chimed in on the merits of using nuclear weapons against the Reapers in another thread. Reading through the thread I came to realise the militaries of Citadel races are run by incompetent idiots <_<. The Reapers could easily have been defeated 'conventionally' if all the races had taken the time before the invasion to construct a butt-load of autonomous drones armed with nuclear weapons. Just a couple of successfully delivered warheads per Reaper capital ship would have completely devastated them, with practically minimal losses for the Citadel fleets.


you can't escape the military industrial complex:devil:.  but from what we see I agree with you on the military points.  

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Okay it worked, thanks for the help guys Image IPB

@ FdL_Ananas: glad to see you here again *waves*
I yes we have had a lot of interesting thing, you will have ti exuse me I can't remember all the details, except that most of it revolved around Liara Image IPB

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FdL_Ananas wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...

 So silent... 

Anyone out there?

Well, I'm back and started reading here again, if that counts for something. :P

Semi-voluntary break from the BSN set me back for about a hundred pages. Maybe I should challenge Karmen to a catch-up race now ...

So ... anything interesting I missed? ;)


Ah good, that is something. You've missed a few things but I don't recall them well enough to summarize :lol:

Oh, just realized I haven't said this so I'll do so now: Your wallpapers are amazing, I'm using almost all of them.

Any chance there might be an Anderson - "I'm proud of you." one eventually? :innocent:

Also, good job with the photo study thing of Liara, really think you got the right look for a black and white photo.

frudi wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

...so what your saying i guess is that the Reapers should have been destroyed by a unrealistically small amount of troops and all those troops should have survived.  Dark Cloud i like your logic[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]

Funny, just today I chimed in on the merits of using nuclear weapons against the Reapers in another thread. Reading through the thread I came to realise the militaries of Citadel races are run by incompetent idiots [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]. The Reapers could easily have been defeated 'conventionally' if all the races had taken the time before the invasion to construct a butt-load of autonomous drones armed with nuclear weapons. Just a couple of successfully delivered warheads per Reaper capital ship would have completely devastated them, with practically minimal losses for the Citadel fleets.


...huh? Do we even know if nukes are effective against Reapers? I doubt it.

Also, even if they are effective, the Reapers would be able to gun the drones down, yes?

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Tyranniac wrote...

...huh? Do we even know if nukes are effective against Reapers? I doubt it.


I remember the Cain being very effectiv. LoL
If I were Shepard, my tactic would have been, to slap a Cain on everything. :P

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kumquats wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...

...huh? Do we even know if nukes are effective against Reapers? I doubt it.


I remember the Cain being very effectiv. LoL
If I were Shepard, my tactic would have been, to slap a Cain on everything. :P


Uhm... the Cain isn't a nuke though.

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kumquats wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...

...huh? Do we even know if nukes are effective against Reapers? I doubt it.


I remember the Cain being very effectiv. LoL
If I were Shepard, my tactic would have been, to slap a Cain on everything. :P

A cain wouldn't scratch a Destroyer never mind a capital ship, it blew up a Hades cannon, but that is hardly the same thing. also the cain is not a nuke as its description makes a considerable show of pointing out Image IPB

And I am with Tyranniac on this one, I doubt that the Reapers would care about something as "trivial" as nukes, the main gun from a dreadnaught has over three times the power of a nuke and can barely scratch the shields of a Sovereign-class Reaper alone.

Even of mounted on hundreds of automated drones the Reapers could simply destroy them with Oculi drones. and that is assuming that the Reapers cannot "hack" these drones to assume control over them and used them against the organic races.

This however is off-topic.

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kumquats wrote...

I remember the Cain being very effectiv. LoL
If I were Shepard, my tactic would have been, to slap a Cain on everything. :P



Shepard VI: Install me in one of the flying drones and stick a cain on it.

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Tyranniac wrote...

...huh? Do we even know if nukes are effective against Reapers? I doubt it.

Also, even if they are effective, the Reapers would be able to gun the drones down, yes?

Sure they'd be effective; if Reapers can be destroyed with something as simple as kinetic projectiles, each imparting several dozen kilotons worth of energy, then a nuke that delivers something like 100 times as much energy would certainly be effective. In fact, while Reapers' kinetic barriers protect them from projectiles, they are absolutely useless against radiation and high energy elementary particles, which is how a nuke 'delivers' its energy (in the vacuum of space).

As for Reapers gunning the drones down - that's why you use a swarm of drones to overload their close range defences, most drones don't even have to be armed and serve purely as decoys. You only need perhaps a couple of nukes to get through per capital class Reaper.

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Akernis wrote...
And I am with Tyranniac on this one, I doubt that the Reapers would care about something as "trivial" as nukes, the main gun from a dreadnaught has over three times the power of a nuke and can barely scratch the shields of a Sovereign-class Reaper alone.

This however is off-topic.


Three times the power of the WWII nuke, about 38 kilotons or whatever it was. The biggest modern nuclear device detonated was 50 megatons. That‘s over a thousand times more powerful. Note that this is within an atmosphere only; in space it’d be less useful. Plus, you know, the fallout poisoning everything so it’s not really a great ‘take back’ weapon.

But, yes, offtopic.

I’m unsure whether I should have some more Liara in chapter 9…I think I might push her to chapter 10, she doesn’t really have that much to do in the immediate aftermath.

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frudi wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

...so what your saying i guess is that the Reapers should have been destroyed by a unrealistically small amount of troops and all those troops should have survived.  Dark Cloud i like your logicB)

Funny, just today I chimed in on the merits of using nuclear weapons against the Reapers in another thread. Reading through the thread I came to realise the militaries of Citadel races are run by incompetent idiots <_<. The Reapers could easily have been defeated 'conventionally' if all the races had taken the time before the invasion to construct a butt-load of autonomous drones armed with nuclear weapons. Just a couple of successfully delivered warheads per Reaper capital ship would have completely devastated them, with practically minimal losses for the Citadel fleets.


Except for the fact that all the homeworlds would suffer from massive nuclear fallout from the explosions because there were multiple Reapers on the planet for each of the major homeworlds. It wouldn't be a major deal for the Reapers in space but the one's actually on the planet would create a big problem. Tuchanka shows us that the other races haven't any special technology to clean up a planet that has been through a nuclear holocaust. With the number of Reapers that landed in Vancouver alone it's safe to say that almost every major city on Earth would likely be destroyed and a significant portion of their populations. I can't see Liara or Shepard agreeing to that strategy since the Reapers manage to sneak in past every race's defenses and actually make it to their home planet because of how many innocent's would be at risk and the collateral damage it would cause.

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Akernis wrote...
@ FdL_Ananas: glad to see you here again *waves*
I yes we have had a lot of interesting thing, you will have ti exuse me I can't remember all the details, except that most of it revolved around Liara Image IPB

Hey there! *waves back*
Well, if it was about Liara it MUST have been interesting, I guess. :P
Will have to check that out over the course of the next days / weeks / years ...


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Ah good, that is something. You've missed a few things but I don't recall them well enough to summarize [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

Oh, just realized I haven't said this so I'll do so now: Your wallpapers are amazing, I'm using almost all of them.

Any chance there might be an Anderson - "I'm proud of you." one eventually? [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/angel.png[/smilie]

Also, good job with the photo study thing of Liara, really think you got the right look for a black and white photo.

That Anderson line is definitely on my "quotes I want to wallpaperfy"  list.
Though the dialogue is a bit different for FShep and MShep and I'm not sure yet how I want to handle that. Will think about it in the near future ...

But thanks a lot!

Did you see the Liara piece on deviantart or was it linked here previously?

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Regardings that "drones with nukes" strategy, I could see the Reapers just retreating from open space to the surfaces of habited planets once they learned about it.

That would force the Citadel races to either stop their drone attacks or turn their own homes into nuclear wastelands, dooming large portions of their remaining populations to a fiery death in the process.
And the Citadel fleet is certainly not large enough to besiege all planets simultaniously to keep the Reapers on the ground.

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Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

kumquats wrote...

I remember the Cain being very effectiv. LoL
If I were Shepard, my tactic would have been, to slap a Cain on everything. :P



Shepard VI: Install me in one of the flying drones and stick a cain on it.


Exactly. ^.^

Akernis wrote...

And I am with Tyranniac on this one, I
doubt that the Reapers would care about something as "trivial" as nukes,
the main gun from a dreadnaught has over three times the power of a
nuke and can barely scratch the shields of a Sovereign-class Reaper
alone.


The Nuke wouldn't kill them outright, but then we would have to speculate how important their organic 'parts' are, while every organic troop is dieing from radioactivity.
Not a good Idea. :P

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lillitheris wrote...

Akernis wrote...
And I am with Tyranniac on this one, I doubt that the Reapers would care about something as "trivial" as nukes, the main gun from a dreadnaught has over three times the power of a nuke and can barely scratch the shields of a Sovereign-class Reaper alone.

This however is off-topic.


Three times the power of the WWII nuke, about 38 kilotons or whatever it was. The biggest modern nuclear device detonated was 50 megatons. That‘s over a thousand times more powerful. Note that this is within an atmosphere only; in space it’d be less useful. Plus, you know, the fallout poisoning everything so it’s not really a great ‘take back’ weapon.

Fair point.
Though I stll believe that the most advanced beings in the history of the galaxy with a kill count of literally hundreds or thousands of civilisations and millions of years of experience would be able to esily counter it.

If it was that easy the Reapers would have falled hundreds of cycles ago.

Edit: Sorry, did not mean to derail the thread further with this, I just have an exceedingly bad habbit with trying to get the last word when not having a strong argument in a conversation that I have some strong feeling about Image IPB.

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Three times the power of the WWII nuke, about 38 kilotons or whatever it was. The biggest modern nuclear device detonated was 50 megatons. That‘s over a thousand times more powerful. Note that this is within an atmosphere only; in space it’d be less useful. Plus, you know, the fallout poisoning everything so it’s not really a great ‘take back’ weapon.

Nukes would actually be more effective in space, with no atmosphere to absorb the energy and convert it into a "useless" shockwave. And fallout is also not an issue in space, the radioactive byproducts are ejected at relativistic speeds and will clear out of the area in fractions of a second.

And to be clear, I am only suggesting using nukes on Reapers in space. Those that are planetside should naturally be destroyed by conventional means (i.e. orbital bombardment). The codex states that capital class Reapers have to drastically lower their mass to land on a planet, leaving their barriers significantly weakened and thus much more vulnerable.
Reapers on planets should therefore be pretty much seating ducks for a fleet in orbit, and if they try to take off and engage their attackers in space, they are once again open for a space nuking :).

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@FdL_Ananas I'm curious to see, which crew member you're going to "Old Time" next? Your Liara photo is one of the best I've seen so far, and I'm eagerly anticipating what else you have in store.

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*sees mention of pineapple's newest Liara piece, goes to dA to enjoy the masterpiece once more, brain inevitably melts again...*

*apologises in advance if anything he manages to post for a while will be incoherent gibberish*

edit: *of course gets stuck with a ToP...*:
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^ Sweet :)

Well, I am off to bed, see you guys tomorrow Image IPB