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[Obsidian Gryphon]

On Asari last names, maybe T'Soni is something like a ID tag to show which branch / house / clan / group the Asari belonged to.(since Thessia is actually grouped into confederacies so I presumed each would have their own highest ranking families / clan). I don't think Liara mentioned which confederacy her family is from. Perhaps it's only used by maidens and matrons and hardly by matriachs <- who would have already made their mark.

Ditto on visiting a pre-Reaper Thessia. I don't mind visiting a rebuilt Thessia though.

On Shep and Liara. I don't know. Sometimes when a soldier says : yeah, I wanna rest, let everything go after this dustup because I want to experience somethng else other than war ...well, sometimes it doesn't work out that way. I don't expect Shep to immediately hand in her resignation though. I'd expect a weaning off period; she would still be in the Alliance but bumped up in rank. The Normandy would still be hers to command for a while (there should still be stuff to clean up, heck, she could go to Thessia to help) but eventually she would be lined into a desk job (on Thessia perhaps?).

[Wulfram]

Any children of Liara are going to be Asari, and I'd expect the way they would be raised would reflect that. But I would expect Asari culture to be good at adapting to and embracing alien cultures, so I doubt Shepard would have to give up their own culture.

Modifié par Wulfram, 14 mai 2012 - 12:30 .

[Arcataye]

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

The Normandy would still be hers to command for a while (there should still be stuff to clean up, heck, she could go to Thessia to help) but eventually she would be lined into a desk job (on Thessia perhaps?).

As the savior of the galaxy, Shepard would "demand" the Normandy's "ownership" to EDI, because the ship is EDI.
Maybe to Joker if they have a problem with giving Alliance "property" to an AI.
EDI said that she can operate and fly herself with no crew (with the new body she could probably do the engineers jobs too). Joker & EDI flys off wherever they want to. I'd imagine that Joker would still like to serve under the Alliance, so guess they'd have a crew anyways. But that way they can't kick Joker off the ship. I like the Joker & EDI romance, hah.
(Garrus & Tali and Gabriella & Kenneth too, nice to see that Shepard isn't the only one in a relationship.)

Shepard would go where Liara wants them to go and start the life they didn't have time for before. Shepard would work as a police or somekind of a security guard or something. She doesn't like sitting behind a desk all day long. Or, she would just stay with the kids and live off the huge monthly "savior of the galaxy" -payments.

That's just what my Shepard would do.

Modifié par Arcataye, 14 mai 2012 - 12:46 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

  I did say for a while. I don't think EDI would straight away whisk herself and Joker somewhere else in the aftermath.

My Shep's a spacer, that's why i said it would take some time for her to adjust. And I expect her and Liara to sit down to discuss what's next once they have enough infomation to work with.

[Wulfram]

I don't see my Shepard retiring.

Well, she might try for a while. But eventually the Alliance or the Council would knock on the door and say "We need you", and I don't think she could say no. More likely, she'd immediately throw herself into trying to make sure the Genophage cure doesn't backfire.

Actually, I think similar things would apply to Liara. She'd find it very difficult to no longer be in the position to help when people need it, so the lure of remaining the Shadowbroker, or at least keeping some sort of intelligence network going, would be strong. If not romanced, she's very definite that she's not going to settle down or go back to civilian life.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Shepard and Liara would obviously get their own reality tv show after the war.

[kyg_20X6]

I don't think Shepard will be in any condition to fight post-'destroy'. She's nearly killed and there is no NEED for her to come back and fight. She's brought the galaxy together, time to put that weight on other shoulders. Honourable discharge. Time to settle down and enjoy life. At least, that's how I see it.

Modifié par kyg_20X6, 14 mai 2012 - 01:40 .

[Theodoro]

kyg_20X6 wrote...

I don't think Shepard will be in any condition to fight post-'destroy'. She's brought the galaxy together, time to put that weight on other shoulders. Honourable discharge. Time to settle down and enjoy life. At least, that's how I see it.

I agree here a hundred percent. After what Shepard has done, I don't expect anyone to even dare ask him/her help with something that does not involve an imminent war, which I hope will not be happening. He/she has earned all the time in the world to simply enjoy the galaxy he/she just saved.

[kyg_20X6]

Theodoro wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

I don't think Shepard will be in any condition to fight post-'destroy'. She's brought the galaxy together, time to put that weight on other shoulders. Honourable discharge. Time to settle down and enjoy life. At least, that's how I see it.

I agree here a hundred percent. After what Shepard has done, I don't expect anyone to even dare ask him/her help with something that does not involve an imminent war, which I hope will not be happening. He/she has earned all the time in the world to simply enjoy the galaxy he/she just saved.

EDIT: Not to mention what Shepard went through pre-ME (Elysium/Torfun/Akuze). They've been through a lot. ME wasn't their first tour of duty.

I'm a little worried that people think Shepard should continue in the military post-war. Not because I disagree, but because I worry BW will think the only way for Shepard's story to 'end' is for them to die. See, we think it's perfectly reasonable for Shepard to retire post-war. And I'm sure even people that want Shepard to continue would accept that, if it is what BW implemented for the 'destroy' ending. But I'm worried BW will see a need to end Shepard's story on a more 'final' note, no matter the ending.

Modifié par kyg_20X6, 14 mai 2012 - 01:52 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Theodoro wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

I don't think Shepard will be in any condition to fight post-'destroy'. She's brought the galaxy together, time to put that weight on other shoulders. Honourable discharge. Time to settle down and enjoy life. At least, that's how I see it.

I agree here a hundred percent. After what Shepard has done, I don't expect anyone to even dare ask him/her help with something that does not involve an imminent war, which I hope will not be happening. He/she has earned all the time in the world to simply enjoy the galaxy he/she just saved.

I'm a little worried that people think Shepard should continue in the military post-war. Not because I disagree, but because I worry BW will think the only way for Shepard's story to 'end' is for them to die. See, we think it's perfectly reasonable for Shepard to retire post-war. And I'm sure even people that want Shepard to continue would accept that, if it is what BW implemented for the 'destroy' ending. But I'm worried BW will see a need to end Shepard's story on a more 'final' note.

Bioware made Shepard able to survive the ending. The EC will force them to commit to that fact, they have to show Shepard living in the post-war era.

Or did I simply misread you and what you meant was that you were worried Bioware will force Shepard down a certain path if he survived?

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Theodoro wrote...

I agree here a hundred percent. After what Shepard has done, I don't expect anyone to even dare ask him/her help with something that does not involve an imminent war, which I hope will not be happening. He/she has earned all the time in the world to simply enjoy the galaxy he/she just saved.

I can't imagine a world where people won't be asking Shepard to go find some lost artifact or rescue their cat from a tree. Of course maybe less people would ask Shep to do things for them if Shepard wasn't so nosey.

[Ecrulis]

My shep would definitely retire after this, Im sure she would have no problem advising the alliance here or there but She has said herself that she was done saving the galaxy should she survive this.

EDIT: Off Topic Im almost done with the first chapter of my sheps backstory, Ill be posting it soon, YAY! 

Modifié par Ecrulis, 14 mai 2012 - 02:02 .

[Aristobulus500]

I think Shepard's story *having* to end with Shep's death would be a lot more reasonable and thematically appropriate if Shepard was just a soldier - no romance or anything, so that Shepard's entire purpose can be summed as "to champion the fight and war against the Reapers" - then, without the Reapers and war, Shepard no longer has a real purpose, and can be killed off satisfyingly.

The problem comes in when you introduce romance. Especially deep, involved romance like with Liara - suddenly Shepard has a purpose beyond the war, a reason to exist. Further complicated because they actually discuss a post war future together! It's not just a fling to relieve stress from the war - Shepard and Liara actually intend to raise a family together - suddenly Shepard dying is no longer a satisfying conclusion, because it means such a sharp blow to Liara and what she wanted out of life, and the future - it's killing an entire future path in removing that family life Liara (and Shepard) wanted to do. This is because, when Liara's romance enters the discussion, Shepard is no longer merely a soldier, but is a lover to her and would-be father.

In this case, Shepard's purpose as a soldier can be ended with the war, but since that is not all he is, his death is not appropriate. Shepard dying at the end of the war is only satisfying if a soldier is all he was.

[kyg_20X6]

I know all the reasons BW should let Shepard live on with their LI and friends (try to reassure myself often enough). I still worry they won't (maybe my native pessimism or the wounds of 3/16 are still fresh). Anyway, don't wanna bring this thread down.

So... change of subject: I like the way BW gave Liara a look more in line with Benezia. At first I wasn't a big fan of the darker makeup but when I remembered how Benezia looked, it made sense.

Modifié par kyg_20X6, 14 mai 2012 - 02:10 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

I think Shepard's story *having* to end with Shep's death would be a lot more reasonable and thematically appropriate if Shepard was just a soldier - no romance or anything, so that Shepard's entire purpose can be summed as "to champion the fight and war against the Reapers" - then, without the Reapers and war, Shepard no longer has a real purpose, and can be killed off satisfyingly.

The problem comes in when you introduce romance. Especially deep, involved romance like with Liara - suddenly Shepard has a purpose beyond the war, a reason to exist. Further complicated because they actually discuss a post war future together! It's not just a fling to relieve stress from the war - Shepard and Liara actually intend to raise a family together - suddenly Shepard dying is no longer a satisfying conclusion, because it means such a sharp blow to Liara and what she wanted out of life, and the future - it's killing an entire future path in removing that family life Liara (and Shepard) wanted to do. This is because, when Liara's romance enters the discussion, Shepard is no longer merely a soldier, but is a lover to her and would-be father.

In this case, Shepard's purpose as a soldier can be ended with the war, but since that is not all he is, his death is not appropriate. Shepard dying at the end of the war is only satisfying if a soldier is all he was.

Well spoken.

[rubynorman]

I always think the term "bondmate" refers to marriage partner/ spouse or maybe soul mate in Asari's culture. Like I said before I don't think they must have kids so they can call each other bondmate. I always headcanon that my Shep would want an Asari ceremony for Liara, and Liara want a human wedding for Shep. They talk about it and decide to make a mix-up ceremony. Of course Liara won't give up her culture but it is a wedding, she loves Shepard and she want to make her feel comfortable. But my Shepard will never wear a dress ) She is a tom-boy. Maybe because I really love the story After by N.Q Wilder, it has become my headcanon.

[kyg_20X6]

Lizardviking wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

*snip*

Well spoken.

+1

I've sent so many messages to BW giving feedback like this. I really want to love ME again but they need to give us this closure; a form of closure that rewards the players for loving and caring about the characters/universe. I just hope they get the EC right. I can't/won't take another hit to the quad like I did the first time around.

[Ecrulis]

rubynorman wrote...

I always think the term "bondmate" refers to marriage partner/ spouse or maybe soul mate in Asari's culture. Like I said before I don't think they must have kids so they can call each other bondmate. I always headcanon that my Shep would want an Asari ceremony for Liara, and Liara want a human wedding for Shep. They talk about it and decide to make a mix-up ceremony. Of course Liara won't give up her culture but it is a wedding, she loves Shepard and she want to make her feel comfortable. But my Shepard will never wear a dress ) She is a tom-boy. Maybe because I really love the story After by N.Q Wilder, it has become my headcanon.

This is the way I saw it as well, however my shep would put on a dress for Liara . 

[VarrenSoldier]

Wulfram wrote...

I don't see my Shepard retiring.

Well, she might try for a while. But eventually the Alliance or the Council would knock on the door and say "We need you", and I don't think she could say no. More likely, she'd immediately throw herself into trying to make sure the Genophage cure doesn't backfire.

Actually, I think similar things would apply to Liara. She'd find it very difficult to no longer be in the position to help when people need it, so the lure of remaining the Shadowbroker, or at least keeping some sort of intelligence network going, would be strong. If not romanced, she's very definite that she's not going to settle down or go back to civilian life.

But then again, since we are romancing Liara, the VS can be the one sent on Spectre business (then let's hope Kaidan can find the Geth). Along with Vega if Vega will ever become the third human spectre.

Modifié par VarrenSoldier, 14 mai 2012 - 02:49 .

[rubynorman]

Yes. Let Kaidan do the Spectre's job and James do the N7's job. My Shep will retire after the war. She will enjoy the rest of her life by living happily, taking care of Liara and their children. Maybe some desk-paper works, or helping rebuild Thessia and Earth. She promises Liara that she won't throw hersefl in danger anymore unless to protect her family.
I completely agree with "Asari/Thessia DLC" and "Shepard doesn't have to die to end the story". Sorry I can't quote.

[rubynorman]

Yes. Let Kaidan do the Spectre's job and James do the N7's job. My Shep will retire after the war. She will enjoy the rest of her life by living happily, taking care of Liara and their children. Maybe some desk-paper works, or helping rebuild Thessia and Earth. She promises Liara that she won't throw hersefl in danger anymore unless to protect her family.
I completely agree with "Asari/Thessia DLC" and "Shepard doesn't have to die to end the story". Sorry I can't quote.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

I know I'm tired but I'm seeing doubles.

[Ecrulis]

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

I know I'm tired but I'm seeing doubles.

Nope its just you, you're seeing double, just how much did you have to drink? 

EDIT: Ack Top! Ill post a picture from my collection of screenies when I get home from work

Modifié par Ecrulis, 14 mai 2012 - 04:04 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Ecrulis wrote...

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

I know I'm tired but I'm seeing doubles.

Nope its just you, you're seeing double, just how much did you have to drink? 

EDIT: Ack Top! Ill post a picture from my collection of screenies when I get home from work

Man, if I'm drunk, I'll be seeing quads.  Kaffee anyone?