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Hey, Blue Brigade! I'm on vacation now, so I don't have much time to spend on the internet. I saw the new Liara footage and I like her look, I have to say. I like the LOTSB version the best right now, but this new version isn't bad.

I have plans for new Liara-related photoshops, and I haven't forgotten about your request, Lizard!

PS, There's a new chapter of Who We Are up, right?

*Edit* My favorite new picture

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[edit] dayum, thats a great shot of liara. seein that serious face is so refreshing after playin mass effect recently and gettin the 'oh dear, im so tired' and 'please shepard, save me' looks

i really prefer any version with darker lip color, that lil bit of contrast works so much better. liara has a very limited color palate, anything that keeps her features from washing out in a sea of blue

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Ophiskc wrote...

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Has anyone tried photoshopping the lips Dark Blue, to see how it would look?


Her skin is a little more green in M3 so it looks a bit odd, but making her more blue like originally those lips fit better

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Thx. Looking at this makes me like her pink lips more. It's one of those reasons why I question asking for a change, when things should probably stay the same.

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The super white scalp is going to have to grow on me. Rest I like. The white just sticks out way too much for me. I do hope they keep her in the armor though. I love that.

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Liaras face looks wierd in the ingame image, looks like one of those models that you create by folding up card, an example of this was on this forum somewhere.

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The lip colour and the absence of Liara's vibrant blue eyes I can live with and I will probably get used to it. But looking at the TOP Liara pic I really dislike the white scalp. That's something I just can't ignore. For the love of the goddess I do hope at least that gets changed back.

Looking at the other Liara screens from the level up screen, her scalp isn't nearly as white as in the actual game footage. How much of this is just lighting I wonder...

Edit: So there's another ME3 live Q&A scheduled for.. I think it's today. Anyone has a twitter account and feels like asking the question why Liara's face model is being changed again while we still have the (superior looking) Lotsb skin they spent so much time on before?

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Robhuzz wrote...

The lip colour and the absence of Liara's vibrant blue eyes I can live with and I will probably get used to it. But looking at the TOP Liara pic I really dislike the white scalp. That's something I just can't ignore. For the love of the goddess I do hope at least that gets changed back.

Looking at the other Liara screens from the level up screen, her scalp isn't nearly as white as in the actual game footage. How much of this is just lighting I wonder...

Edit: So there's another ME3 live Q&A scheduled for.. I think it's today. Anyone has a twitter account and feels like asking the question why Liara's face model is being changed again while we still have the (superior looking) Lotsb skin they spent so much time on before?

Who's twitter account or Mass Effect in general?  I have twitter, not good with it, but I do try.  

EDIT:Never mind, Robhuzz.  They said to post questions on a certain account, so I sent one that asking why they keep changing Liara's look when they changed her look for LotSB.   Why not use that?

Now, will it get answered.   Hmmmmm....

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ladyvader wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

The lip colour and the absence of Liara's vibrant blue eyes I can live with and I will probably get used to it. But looking at the TOP Liara pic I really dislike the white scalp. That's something I just can't ignore. For the love of the goddess I do hope at least that gets changed back.

Looking at the other Liara screens from the level up screen, her scalp isn't nearly as white as in the actual game footage. How much of this is just lighting I wonder...

Edit: So there's another ME3 live Q&A scheduled for.. I think it's today. Anyone has a twitter account and feels like asking the question why Liara's face model is being changed again while we still have the (superior looking) Lotsb skin they spent so much time on before?

Who's twitter account or Mass Effect in general?  I have twitter, not good with it, but I do try.  



I sent two; both were ignored.

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SE JN wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

The lip colour and the absence of Liara's vibrant blue eyes I can live with and I will probably get used to it. But looking at the TOP Liara pic I really dislike the white scalp. That's something I just can't ignore. For the love of the goddess I do hope at least that gets changed back.

Looking at the other Liara screens from the level up screen, her scalp isn't nearly as white as in the actual game footage. How much of this is just lighting I wonder...

Edit: So there's another ME3 live Q&A scheduled for.. I think it's today. Anyone has a twitter account and feels like asking the question why Liara's face model is being changed again while we still have the (superior looking) Lotsb skin they spent so much time on before?

Who's twitter account or Mass Effect in general?  I have twitter, not good with it, but I do try.  



I sent two; both were ignored.

I just sent one.  Wonder if it will get answered.  Why change it when they already did so in the DLC.  She looks great there.  White scalp, I'm not digging too much.  Meh.

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I'm guessing you're a little early. I think the next Q&A will be held either today or tomorrow (saturday) at 6:15 pm CET - That's 5:15 pm GMT, don't know about US timezones, don't use those XD

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Robhuzz wrote...

I'm guessing you're a little early. I think the next Q&A will be held either today or tomorrow (saturday) at 6:15 pm CET - That's 5:15 pm GMT, don't know about US timezones, don't use those XD

They mentioned something about 9 something Pacific time(I'm on the east coast and Eastern time.) was the next Q&A.  I sent them a question.  Now if it actually gets answered or not is anyone's guess.

EDIT:This page is really lacking in the blue department.  Let's correct that shall we.
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Robhuzz wrote...

Looking at the other Liara screens from the level up screen, her scalp isn't nearly as white as in the actual game footage. How much of this is just lighting I wonder...


It looks white in the lvl up screen when you look at her in HQ
And i dont know why, but she looks overal old, i dont know if is because of the way they did the "scaly" skin, the white scalp, the little hint of green on her skin, or all together.
I wish they would post a HQ close up of her to have better opinions, because sadly not all were able to play the demo. And who knows, maybe the computers we were able to play with had a tweaked monitor, and what i saw was different than the original

This new model is not a complete disaster, but is very different from what was M1, M2 or Lotsb. I guess will look pretty weird when someone makes a video of Shep/Liara relationship all over the series

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Ophiskc wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

Looking at the other Liara screens from the level up screen, her scalp isn't nearly as white as in the actual game footage. How much of this is just lighting I wonder...


It looks white in the lvl up screen when you look at her in HQ
And i dont know why, but she looks overal old, i dont know if is because of the way they did the "scaly" skin, the white scalp, the little hint of green on her skin, or all together.
I wish they would post a HQ close up of her to have better opinions, because sadly not all were able to play the demo. And who knows, maybe the computers we were able to play with had a tweaked monitor, and what i saw was different than the original

This new model is not a complete disaster, but is very different from what was M1, M2 or Lotsb. I guess will look pretty weird when someone makes a video of Shep/Liara relationship all over the series

Which I plan on doing.  Responding to the bold.  Not that our import Sheps from ME1-->ME2 didn't change.  No more scars.  So I suppose Liara changing again isn't too bad.  I'm not digging the super white scalp.  The rest I'm liking sorta.  Why change it from the LotSB is what I don't get.  WHY?!?!?!?!

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Besides the white scalp her look isn't too bad. Not sure why she reverted back to her ME1 look since her super blue eyes were pretty awesome. LotSB is just horribly inconsistent now.

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ladyvader wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

This new model is not a complete disaster, but is very different from what was M1, M2 or Lotsb. I guess will look pretty weird when someone makes a video of Shep/Liara relationship all over the series

Which I plan on doing.  Responding to the bold.  Not that our import Sheps from ME1-->ME2 didn't change.  No more scars.  So I suppose Liara changing again isn't too bad.  I'm not digging the super white scalp.  The rest I'm liking sorta.  Why change it from the LotSB is what I don't get.  WHY?!?!?!?!


Shep change from M1 to M2, but there's a reason why at least, Shep skin got reconstructed completely after dying and makes sense that there's no more scars, and why they very much removed that option from the customization screen in M2

Liara's changes makes no sense in the other hand, except if that they come up with an ingame explanation about asaris changing when they're pregnant or something lol. We know is just a redesign, but they're redesigning her way too much in my opinion

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Robhuzz wrote...

The lip colour and the absence of Liara's vibrant blue eyes I can live with and I will probably get used to it. But looking at the TOP Liara pic I really dislike the white scalp. That's something I just can't ignore. For the love of the goddess I do hope at least that gets changed back.


I still really don't like the ME3 look. The skintone, white scalp and eye colour really makes the character look dull and devoid of something.... I wonder If this is some visual representation of her being stressed out and tired due to the events of ME3. If it is, I wonder why didn't just take the LOTSB version and make some changes.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

The lip colour and the absence of Liara's vibrant blue eyes I can live with and I will probably get used to it. But looking at the TOP Liara pic I really dislike the white scalp. That's something I just can't ignore. For the love of the goddess I do hope at least that gets changed back.


I still really don't like the ME3 look. The skintone, white scalp and eye colour really makes the character look dull and devoid of something.... I wonder If this is some visual representation of her being stressed out and tired due to the events of ME3. If it is, I wonder why didn't just take the LOTSB version and make some changes.


Which is why I'm really hoping for this question to come through during a live Q/A. Sending it to casey's twitter will probably yield a response like: "We're not done with her face model yet". But when asked in a live Q/A why they're going through all this trouble downgrading the superior Lotsb model for use in ME3 I'm really not sure what kind of answer we should expect. At the very least it'll become apparent to BioWare that the Liara fans in general (At least those who are active on the BSN) DO NOT LIKE this change. And looking at all the fuss over the new default FemShep model it seems BioWare is willing to go through all this trouble to satisfy the fans.

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Lizardviking wrote...

Robhuzz wrote...

The lip colour and the absence of Liara's vibrant blue eyes I can live with and I will probably get used to it. But looking at the TOP Liara pic I really dislike the white scalp. That's something I just can't ignore. For the love of the goddess I do hope at least that gets changed back.


I still really don't like the ME3 look. The skintone, white scalp and eye colour really makes the character look dull and devoid of something.... I wonder If this is some visual representation of her being stressed out and tired due to the events of ME3. If it is, I wonder why didn't just take the LOTSB version and make some changes.

I agree, the LotSB redesign underlined the changes to herm the lips and the eyes were the focus point of Liara.
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The me 3 look just scratches that, as if LotSB never happened, and that really sucks.

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Ophiskc wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

This new model is not a complete disaster, but is very different from what was M1, M2 or Lotsb. I guess will look pretty weird when someone makes a video of Shep/Liara relationship all over the series

Which I plan on doing.  Responding to the bold.  Not that our import Sheps from ME1-->ME2 didn't change.  No more scars.  So I suppose Liara changing again isn't too bad.  I'm not digging the super white scalp.  The rest I'm liking sorta.  Why change it from the LotSB is what I don't get.  WHY?!?!?!?!


Shep change from M1 to M2, but there's a reason why at least, Shep skin got reconstructed completely after dying and makes sense that there's no more scars, and why they very much removed that option from the customization screen in M2

Liara's changes makes no sense in the other hand, except if that they come up with an ingame explanation about asaris changing when they're pregnant or something lol. We know is just a redesign, but they're redesigning her way too much in my opinion

I can come up with one explanation, but even that doesn't make sense.  Her body is changing from maidan to matron.  But at her age, it doesn't fit.  Maybe we will get an answer.  But I hightly doubt it.

I get why Shep lost their scars.  I don't like it, but it is what it is.

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Well there is still plenty of time to implement change or whatever so I have no fears that BW hasn't heard about the ultra-white scalp already several times over. It could very well be just the lighting and not to mention it was just a trailer mainly showing off combat among other things. Broken Record= Plenty of time before release.

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Well there is still plenty of time to implement change or whatever so I have no fears that BW hasn't heard about the ultra-white scalp already several times over. It could very well be just the lighting and not to mention it was just a trailer mainly showing off combat among other things. Broken Record= Plenty of time before release.


I agree, I'm still hoping it's a placeholder.

Looking at some of the footage it looks like the game needs a fair amount of polish so hopefully Liara's eyes fit under that banner.

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I can come up with one explanation, but even that doesn't make sense.  Her body is changing from maidan to matron.  But at her age, it doesn't fit.  Maybe we will get an answer.  But I hightly doubt it.

I get why Shep lost their scars.  I don't like it, but it is what it is.


I hope they don't try to explain it away. Nothing is worse than uneccesary in-game explaination "coughthermalclipscough".

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Genshie wrote...

Well there is still plenty of time to implement change or whatever so I have no fears that BW hasn't heard about the ultra-white scalp already several times over. It could very well be just the lighting and not to mention it was just a trailer mainly showing off combat among other things. Broken Record= Plenty of time before release.


We can hope, but Liara's look has changed since the E3 demos.  That is my concern.  The game isn't out for 6 and half months, but I don't see them doing too much changing from what they have planned in the next three months.  After that, I see QA and production of discs and that stuff takes time to before it gets released.

I don't know how to post just one tweet, but here it is....“@heymarkd: @CaseyDHudson How many times have you played through Mass Effect 3?” Separate missions so far but started a full playthrough.

Sounds to me the game is almost complete if he is doing a full playthrough.

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ladyvader wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

ladyvader wrote...

Ophiskc wrote...

This new model is not a complete disaster, but is very different from what was M1, M2 or Lotsb. I guess will look pretty weird when someone makes a video of Shep/Liara relationship all over the series

Which I plan on doing.  Responding to the bold.  Not that our import Sheps from ME1-->ME2 didn't change.  No more scars.  So I suppose Liara changing again isn't too bad.  I'm not digging the super white scalp.  The rest I'm liking sorta.  Why change it from the LotSB is what I don't get.  WHY?!?!?!?!


Shep change from M1 to M2, but there's a reason why at least, Shep skin got reconstructed completely after dying and makes sense that there's no more scars, and why they very much removed that option from the customization screen in M2

Liara's changes makes no sense in the other hand, except if that they come up with an ingame explanation about asaris changing when they're pregnant or something lol. We know is just a redesign, but they're redesigning her way too much in my opinion

I can come up with one explanation, but even that doesn't make sense.  Her body is changing from maidan to matron.  But at her age, it doesn't fit.  Maybe we will get an answer.  But I hightly doubt it.

I get why Shep lost their scars.  I don't like it, but it is what it is.


The reason I thought Liara looked different in LoTSB was because she was ambushed at her home, so she didn't really have time to do her usual cosmetic touches eg the whiter scalp, pink lipstick (maybe contact lenses for her eye's)

I just assumed her look in LoTSB was more her natural way of looking without cosmetics as I don't think Asari lips are natural pink and they have talked about letting the scalp go back to there natural blue (think that's from the Asari with the Krogan BF)

I could be wrong of course but that's what I assumed lol. :P

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InfoGuy101 wrote...

The reason I thought Liara looked different in LoTSB was because she was ambushed at her home, so she didn't really have time to do her usual cosmetic touches eg the whiter scalp, pink lipstick (maybe contact lenses for her eye's)

I just assumed her look in LoTSB was more her natural way of looking without cosmetics as I don't think Asari lips are natural pink and they have talked about letting the scalp go back to there natural blue (think that's from the Asari with the Krogan BF)

I could be wrong of course but that's what I assumed lol. :P

That doesn't explain how she looked when she went on her "date" with Shepard.  She changed clothes for it.  Grabbed Shepard's dogtags, but she didn't have time to put on lipstick and what not?