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#37401
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frudi wrote...

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Lizardviking wrote...

I think all the persuasion options when you speak with TIM makes it easier to unlock the charm/intemidate options during the showdown with him, thereby making it much easier to save Anderson.


You have to use the charm/intimidate options in every conversation with him to use the final one at the end.

That's only required if you want to be able to convince TIM to pull a Saren. Not sure if there are any requirements for the renegade interrupt to shoot TIM before he kills Anderson.


Yeah, that's what I said.

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Lizardviking wrote...

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Strangely textured breasts aside, Benezia is still attractive IMHO

I don't see it. I don't think that she looks ugly but I just don't see anything particularly attractive about her, unlike her daughter.


Given her age (Over or near 1000?) she looked decent IMO. :?

I think Benezia's biggest problem was she always seemed to be angry/pissed of. I think when she's not trying to bite someone's head of, like in his next picture, she actually looks pretty good (if a little older than what an asari should look, but I blame that on stress and indoctrination):


Good catch. Though I do not think she looks too old, I think she is meant to be really old for an Asari.

Which raises the question I always had in my mind. Did Benezia have Liara in her early (perhaps slightly middle?) matriach stage? Given how old she looks I think she did.

Compare Benezia to Samara who is at the end of her matron stage (AFAIK) and she looks a bit older in comparison.


Given that asari choose when to progress from one stage to another it's just as easy to assume she delayed going into the matriarch stage until very late. *shrug*

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frudi wrote...

Akernis wrote...

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Just imagine Liara in a similiar outfit! :devil:

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No thank you, I am happy with her wearing something more flattering for her. Have seen a few pictures of her like that, and while it does not ruin her it certainly dosn't do her any favours either, in my opinion.


Would you rather have Liara in the N7 dress?:whistle:


Oh by the goddess not that one. I'd rather have her in nothing than that...

...wait a second... :wub:

Now  there is a sentiment I can appreciate, and the sentiment is not the only thing I appreciates when it occours Posted Image

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You know, looking at that pic, I can't help but think Liara has all the right attributes to make Shep's N7 dress work ^_^. Well, if it was a different color... and a different material... hm, well, nevermind actually... I'll just be over here, pretending there was some other point to this post than to quote that picture :lol:


No reason is required to quote that picture.

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MrStoob wrote...

No reason is required to quote that picture.


Agreed. :wub:

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Good catch. Though I do not think she looks too old, I think she is meant to be really old for an Asari.

Which raises the question I always had in my mind. Did Benezia have Liara in her early (perhaps slightly middle?) matriach stage? Given how old she looks I think she did.

Compare Benezia to Samara who is at the end of her matron stage (AFAIK) and she looks a bit older in comparison.


Given that asari choose when to progress from one stage to another it's just as easy to assume she delayed going into the matriarch stage until very late. *shrug*

I just assumed she had Liara when she was still a matron, then progressed to a matriarch as Liara was growing up.
We know from Aethyta's comment about Benezia's pre-matriarch rack =] that they knew each other when Benezia was still a matron. But on the other hand that same comment seems to imply Aethyta still 'appreciated' Benezia's matriarchal rack, but we know they'd split up before Liara was born. So... I don't know, I think Bioware messed up with continuity there.
My explanation would be that Aethyta and Benezia started their relationship when Benezia was still well within the matron stage, they were together for about 100 years, then Liara was conceived when Benezia was about 750-800. They split up after that, but kept in occasional touch, with Aethyta still appreciative of at least Benezia's physical attributes.

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frudi wrote...

You know, looking at that pic, I can't help but think Liara has all the right attributes to make Shep's N7 dress work ^_^

Well Liara knows how to sit properly. She doesn't go all exhibitionist like Shepard. ;) It might work well on her.


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I think that wasn't the point. A lot of people choose Paragon or Renegade choices, how they want. My Renegade makes a lot of Paragon choices in ME1, for different reasons....
What makes your Shep a Paragon or Renegade is how your alignment bar looks in the end.
51%P-49%R? You have a Paragon. So yeah, you will have a Paragon or Renegade, even if you don't want it. ME doesn't support neutral characters.

People choose how they want to choose and that's exactly the point, nobody forces you to be either renegade or paragon. That's exactly what I said.

I only mean that I do not care about which "side" I am on, I never even look at my reputation bar. Of course I'm going to have more points on either side and of course I'm going to be labeled as a paragon or a renegade by that reputation bar. But I still consider my Shepard neutral.

In ME1 there was a lot of neutral dialogue, it still leaned in one side or the other, but I still think a middle road was great. Like the choice in the end of the game: Save the Council / Let the Council die / Concentrate on Sovereign
I could choose not to choose, to focus on Sovereign and see how it plays out. Well the Council dies so it's actually the same as Let the Coucil die, but in a neutral way. Shepard doesn't have to say "just let them die".

By the way, is this Shepard paragon or renegade? :lol:

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 Oh come on! Can't even visit the ME wiki without running in to Liara-hating.

Urgh.

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frudi wrote...
I think Benezia's biggest problem was she always seemed to be angry/pissed of. I think when she's not trying to bite someone's head of, like in his next picture, she actually looks pretty good (if a little older than what an asari should look, but I blame that on stress and indoctrination):
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I would be pissed too if someone was constantly whispering in my head....just saying ^_^ I suppose indoctrination isn't that kind on your mood. Saren had his anger bursts....Benezia looks royaly pissed all the time....and if she is not pissed she is rather stern looking. So yeah, I'll blame it on indoctrination. 


Liara is certainly conflicted about her relationship with her mother (rebelling against her by becoming an archeologist, not talking to her in years) but I would think that her childhood was great and that Benezia was a loving mother. Too bad we don't see any picture of Benezia from that time....that would have been nice. Seeing her as the mother that raised such a wonderful character and not the stern and angry matriarch that is doing the Reaper's will.

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It would've been really nice to get a glimpse at Benezia as she was as Liara knew her, before she became indoctrinated. Especially with the way Liara can talk about her, and Shepard never really gets to know that Benezia at all, other than Liara's words. Would've especially been nice to have a scene like that, for a romance Shepard.

This is yet another reason I really like Rae's "can wait" fanfic - Liara using the Joining to share memories she has of Benezia as a kind hearted mother instead of the cold enemy Shepard knew her as - that's a really neat scene that should've been in the game.

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Yeah, Benezia is definitely not the best looking asari out there. Aethyta's not the greatest either, come to think of it. One has to wonder where Liara's looks came from.... I'm gonna guess that Benezia looked significantly better before all that Saren business.

As far as AUs are concerned, it most definitely depends on how you do it. I am not a fan of authors using published IPs to push their own work. Such as completely changing a universe and simply using the characters. That's annoying and lazy, IMHO. I much prefer changing something relatively tiny and following the established rules of the universe in question. Recognizable IP and keeps what fans actually like in the story. Not to mention, it respects the original author.

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MidnightRaith wrote...
As far as AUs are concerned, it most definitely depends on how you do it. I am not a fan of authors using published IPs to push their own work. Such as completely changing a universe and simply using the characters. That's annoying and lazy, IMHO. I much prefer changing something relatively tiny and following the established rules of the universe in question. Recognizable IP and keeps what fans actually like in the story. Not to mention, it respects the original author.


I don't really like either. I prefer fanfics that fit in established canon, either filling in a blank or telling an original story within the universe.

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I'm a big fan of, if author's are going to use an existing IP, them not changing much in the canon - except in the cases of things like the ME3 ending, or attempting to tell a "What if?" style story where they explore how things might've proceeded differently if one event happened differently.

Otherwise, I prefer it if the story is told in such a way that you absolutely can see it happening and fitting in perfectly into the existing lore.

So in the case of ME, that'd be things like people making their own characters to tell a story about, but not having them do anything too majorly important and not having them interact with Shepard or anything, it's just another story that takes place somewhere in the galaxy. The point of stories like this is it's a way to flesh out the universe beyond what the player sees in the games.

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 Only a few very talented people manage to write AU fanfics IMHO. Most of the attempts I've read were really poor and made the characters so out of characters that it was a hassle to read.:sick:

But there are some people out there who can really do it and it always impresses me immensely if I read one of these stories. Haven't found a good one for ME yet but I know a few in other areas. 

The other thing that often happens with fanfics is the incredibly bad out of character description for some known figures. I hate the stories where Liara is written as a weak and flimsy character because that's just not her. Or those where she suddenly shows character traits that make her look completely psychotic in comparison to the original. :? I don't mind adding new traits if the writer can actually wing it and describe it in a believable way but that's an art in itself. 

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Sorry to jump in with a somewhat different topic, but does anyone have any pointers to well-written and truly erotic ME fanfic? I wondering if such a thing exists, or if it's all just embarrassing dreck... :\\

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Kaelef wrote...

Sorry to jump in with a somewhat different topic, but does anyone have any pointers to well-written and truly erotic ME fanfic? I wondering if such a thing exists, or if it's all just embarrassing dreck... :


Rae's Liara x FemShep  "... Can Wait" series:

http://www.fanfictio...1/Ilos_Can_Wait

http://www.fanfictio...agalaz_Can_Wait

http://www.fanfictio...tation_Can_Wait

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Arcataye wrote...
Well Liara knows how to sit properly. She doesn't go all exhibitionist like Shepard. ;) It might work well on her.


Haha, yea.  Shep's sitting position in Morinth's pad is rediculous.  Unless she just likes showing off her knickers, maybe...

That said, Liara spent most of her time in ME1 picking her knickers out of her bum crack when sitting/shifting around lol.

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Kaelef wrote...

Sorry to jump in with a somewhat different topic, but does anyone have any pointers to well-written and truly erotic ME fanfic? I wondering if such a thing exists, or if it's all just embarrassing dreck... :


Anything ME by Rae imo.

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The Lightspeaker wrote...

Kaelef wrote...

Sorry to jump in with a somewhat different topic, but does anyone have any pointers to well-written and truly erotic ME fanfic? I wondering if such a thing exists, or if it's all just embarrassing dreck... :


Anything ME by Rae imo.


That.

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Akernis wrote...

Kaelef wrote...

Sorry to jump in with a somewhat different topic, but does anyone have any pointers to well-written and truly erotic ME fanfic? I wondering if such a thing exists, or if it's all just embarrassing dreck... :


Rae's Liara x FemShep  "... Can Wait" series:

http://www.fanfictio...1/Ilos_Can_Wait

http://www.fanfictio...agalaz_Can_Wait

http://www.fanfictio...tation_Can_Wait

Another one of Rae's that's definitely worth reading is Totaly Worth It, though almost anything ME-related by Rae is worth a look.

There's also a pretty hot scene in Eternity's Last Embrace, though there the scene is just part of a story that otherwise has a pretty sad tone to it.

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Kaelef wrote...

Sorry to jump in with a somewhat different topic, but does anyone have any pointers to well-written and truly erotic ME fanfic? I wondering if such a thing exists, or if it's all just embarrassing dreck... :


The best I've seen is Rae's "...Can Wait" series which got linked a few posts up. Rae's other fics are...not really as well written and tasteful, and I haven't seen very many other fanfics by other authors that do things right.

So read the "can wait" series and come back and let us know what you thought.

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Thanks for the tips, everyone - gonna go check them out!

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Aristobulus500 wrote...

Kaelef wrote...

Sorry to jump in with a somewhat different topic, but does anyone have any pointers to well-written and truly erotic ME fanfic? I wondering if such a thing exists, or if it's all just embarrassing dreck... :


The best I've seen is Rae's "...Can Wait" series which got linked a few posts up. Rae's other fics are...not really as well written and tasteful, and I haven't seen very many other fanfics by other authors that do things right.

So read the "can wait" series and come back and let us know what you thought.


"Totally worth it" by Rae is very well written too I think, even if it is more explicit than the "...Can Wait" ones. All the characters in that one act just right and it has some humorous elements. Garrus' dialogue was spot on I think, actually made me laugh. It is also relevant for those of us that want little blue children!

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Oh, this didn't get linked. Lightbringer's "Convalesence" is also pretty good.

http://www.fanfictio...1/Convalescence

Literally the only erotic fanfics I've ever read that were worth half a ****, are Lightbringers and Rae's "...Can Wait" series. But that's my opinion, other people seem to have...broader tastes than I do. I'm very picky and selective.

(I don't even like Totally Worth It, for example, and most people here seem to love it. Personally, I find it rather tasteless. But this is more meant to show how I'm just picky rather than trying to make any other point - more that just because I don't like it doesn't mean you won't)

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Aristobulus500 wrote...

(I don't even like Totally Worth It, for example, and most people here seem to love it. Personally, I find it rather tasteless. But this is more meant to show how I'm just picky rather than trying to make any other point - more that just because I don't like it doesn't mean you won't)


Did you read all of it? I was very sceptical at first but after reading the whole thing I had a much higher opinion of it.

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Remember those character cocktails?
http://www.escapistm...acter-cocktails

Totally sitting here with a Shadowbrokertini. :) Is good.


nice, just what i need for finishing my final exams :)

I have half a mind to take it to a bar and say, "Yo, make this!" ;P

I guess ill have to settle now for blue jellow.:)

To add, I have a comic:

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Dont let the comic fool you, I LOVE the Mako still:)