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[Sarcastic Tasha]

I actually thought ME3 was more friendly to neutral Shepard than 1 or 2. ME2 was particularly unkind to neutral Shepard. With the reputation bar in ME3 you don't have to worry about not having enough paragon or renegade points to solve a problem.

But yeah I do think its a bit silly when games have a bar to represent your characters morality. I did like how in Fallout New Vegas you get a reputation with different groups of people, makes more sense.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

frudi wrote...

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

Question - I want to fix the Liara romance bug and I just found out that Gibbed Editor can do it. I've used it for ME 2 and I tried for ME 3 but I can't make sense out of the latest. Just to be sure, I should download saveedit-r89 b110.zip file right?

Yes, that's the latest version, so that's the one you should download. You could use one of the older releases as well, but might as well get the latest one.

Then to fix the bug, load your saved game and go under: Plot, Mass Effect 2, Romance and check the '[DLC: Lair of the Shadow Broker] Liara toured...' setting.

Ok, got it. It's strange, I could have sworn I did download the saved editor a month back but it didn't look anything like it is now; akin to the ME 2 editor. I couldn't navigate / open anything.  Alright *rubs hands* down to one more round, lemme see what difference there is with Liara. I'm thinking not very much of course, just probably what she says.

P.S. It works like ME 2 right? I should do a save after I get control of Shepard in the initial opening scene and then  edit from there, then begin afresh with that save.

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 21 mai 2012 - 01:35 .

[Yuqi]

DarkCloudd wrote...

*snip*


I do have to say thats one thing that DA2 got correct. No morality system but the game reacts to how you reacts to people. If you are agressive all the time the game sees that and people react accordingly, and so on and so forth. I would rather have a system like that than the Good/Evil. This isn't Star Wars things aren't that black and white. At least thats what I think.

Lol I would've loved a sarcastic Shepard! Imagine the chaos that would cause..

Hacket: What about the Volus?'

*Purple Icon*

Shepard: "They are reaping their own rewards!"

(Although I don't think Hale or Meer could match Jo wyatt with the sarcasim. )

Modifié par Yuqi, 21 mai 2012 - 01:36 .

[speedy111280]

Arcataye wrote...

Erenbe wrote...

Regarding "Totaly worth it". I do like it to some extent but I am very conflicted about it for some of the reasons that were already mentioned here. It's well written as most of Rae's fics are but at times I am not sure whether to like it or not. The biggest beef I have is with the "conceiving the human way"....it just seems so...weird. Why should this be important to Shepard in that context is one of my biggest questions. Don't mind the toys....that is acceptable....but the way it's enacted...hmm, not sure about that really!

Yeah, I didn't like that "human way" thing either. But the story was still funny as a whole, in my opinion. :happy:
I totally prefer the Can Wait series and so far haven't found anything that rivals it.

"...when I conceive, I want it to be... special. Human. For Shepard's benefit. She has been very patient and understanding, willing to learn my species' mating rituals, so it seems only fair that I return the favor."
- "You want to conceive the way humans do."
"As close as possible, yes."
- "Does she know about this?"
Liara shook her head.

...*snip*...

"Oh, sweetie, we don't have to do it this way... If you'd just told me..."

Shepard had a fantasy about it but didn't really care that much of it, but still agreed to it as it was so important to Liara.


It's great that Rae herself acknowledges that it's not "perfect", it's written by request, so there's even a warning about it:

"Warning: Okay, I know one person's kink is another person's squick, so I have NO idea what words/actions/ect might set certain people off. If you read something you don't like (although I think this is pretty vanilla), just cover your ears, close your eyes, and start shouting "lalalalalalala" as loud as you can."

I had no problem with "Totally Worth It"  because like you pointed out, the whole bit about human way came from a fantasy of Shepard's that wasn't really as important to her as doing whatever Liara was comfortable with was. Liara actually points out that Shepard has gone out of her way to learn Asari mating rituals for Liara and that this was something Liara wanted to do for Shepard based off of Shepard's fantasy. Personally, I took the story as a hilarious ME version of a fantasy that people I know have expressed in real life when going through the expensive process of trying to have kids in an unconventional method so the idea that Shepard would have a similar fantasy doesn't strike me as odd.

[Robhuzz]

Yuqi wrote...

DarkCloudd wrote...

*snip*


I do have to say thats one thing that DA2 got correct. No morality system but the game reacts to how you reacts to people. If you are agressive all the time the game sees that and people react accordingly, and so on and so forth. I would rather have a system like that than the Good/Evil. This isn't Star Wars things aren't that black and white. At least thats what I think.

Lol I would've loved a sarcastic Shepard! Imagine the chaos that would cause..

Hacket: What about the Volus?'

*Purple Icon*

Shepard: "They are reaping their own rewards!"

(Although I don't think Hale or Meer could match Jo wyatt with the sarcasim. )

Absolutely. Sarcastic ladyhawke is the best.

I too would rather they do away with the morality system completely. Or if they keep it, just don't let it influence anything, let it be there for the sole purpose of showing the player where his/her character stands on the scale. Instead give your character a proper personality defined by your action and let npcs react to that.

Individual affection/approval from companions also works a lot better I recon and even though it wasn't flawless in DAO or TOR I like it a lot better than a simple good/evil scale. This system is really limited. 

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Yuqi wrote...


Lol I would've loved a sarcastic Shepard! Imagine the chaos that would cause..

Hacket: What about the Volus?'

*Purple Icon*

Shepard: "They are reaping their own rewards!"

(Although I don't think Hale or Meer could match Jo wyatt with the sarcasim. )

Renegade Shep did get a few good sarcastic comments. My favourite was back in ME1 when a squaddie points out the mission is a trap and Shepard responds with: "your grasp of the obvious is awe inspiring(!)"

I think Shepard is more of a dead pan snarker while Hawke is more smug, the posh english accent helps. 

[kumquats]

Arcataye wrote...

It seems that you are somehow disagreeing with me, but comparing our posts you're actually agreeing.
What is the problem here?

I play my Shep exactly like you play your Shep. Who knows maybe my Renegade is more in the middle then your "neutral" Shep.
Players like me are stuck with Renegade or Paragon. I'm only jealous of your game.

DarkCloudd wrote...

I do have to say thats one thing that DA2 got correct. No morality system but the game reacts to how you
reacts to people. If you are agressive all the time the game sees that and people react accordingly, and so on and so forth. I would rather have a system like that than the Good/Evil. This isn't Star Wars things aren't that black and white. At least thats what I think.

At least Kotor supported Gray Jedis, like Jolee Bindo.

ME offers more freedom, but no one will care if you play bipolar Shepard. At least Liara acknowledges Shepard's reputation a little bit, but it's not enough.

It's on my list of wasted opportunities in the Mass Effect trilogy, it's a very long list....

Modifié par kumquats, 21 mai 2012 - 02:14 .

[Tyranniac]

kumquats wrote...

It's on my list of wasted opportunities in the Mass Effect trilogy, it's a very long list....

There is always room for improvement. That doesn't mean the series isn't amazing, right?

[rubynorman]

I had hooked up with KOTOR 1 and 2 before I turned to ME. ME trilogy is amazing. It is the best RPG series I've ever played. And since ME3's ending, I've not touched any other games like the witcher 2, reckoning... I'm still waiting for the EC before I can move on with my gaming life, or I will stop playing game for a while. I don't know...

[Obsidian Gryphon]

rubynorman wrote...

I had hooked up with KOTOR 1 and 2 before I turned to ME. ME trilogy is amazing. It is the best RPG series I've ever played. And since ME3's ending, I've not touched any other games like the witcher 2, reckoning... I'm still waiting for the EC before I can move on with my gaming life, or I will stop playing game for a while. I don't know...

Welcome aboard, as we all know, the ship's going nowhere till the new helmsman shows up.

I'm stuck in ME 3 MP actually. Every free time I have, I fired it up. I tried ACR recently but it proved to be a tasteless distraction, I returned to ME 3 again. With no satisfying closure, I'm stuck. I said as much in other forums and there's someone who always rebuffs what I say and slaps me down : Get over it. Thus ends his answers. He's a pro-ender.    He loves the ending. He understands the ending which makes me feel stupid. Weally.   

Anyways, back to circling same deep waters.

[Tyranniac]

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

rubynorman wrote...

I had hooked up with KOTOR 1 and 2 before I turned to ME. ME trilogy is amazing. It is the best RPG series I've ever played. And since ME3's ending, I've not touched any other games like the witcher 2, reckoning... I'm still waiting for the EC before I can move on with my gaming life, or I will stop playing game for a while. I don't know...

Welcome aboard, as we all know, the ship's going nowhere till the new helmsman shows up.

I'm stuck in ME 3 MP actually. Every free time I have, I fired it up. I tried ACR recently but it proved to be a tasteless distraction, I returned to ME 3 again. With no satisfying closure, I'm stuck. I said as much in other forums and there's someone who always rebuffs what I say and slaps me down : Get over it. Thus ends his answers. He's a pro-ender.    He loves the ending. He understands the ending which makes me feel stupid. Weally.   

Anyways, back to circling same deep waters.

*hug both*

It'll work out... soon. I hope.

[Arcataye]

frudi wrote...

Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

rubynorman wrote...

I had hooked up with KOTOR 1 and 2 before I turned to ME. ME trilogy is amazing. It is the best RPG series I've ever played. And since ME3's ending, I've not touched any other games like the witcher 2, reckoning... I'm still waiting for the EC before I can move on with my gaming life, or I will stop playing game for a while. I don't know...

Welcome aboard, as we all know, the ship's going nowhere till the new helmsman shows up.

I'm stuck in ME 3 MP actually. Every free time I have, I fired it up. I tried ACR recently but it proved to be a tasteless distraction, I returned to ME 3 again. With no satisfying closure, I'm stuck. I said as much in other forums and there's someone who always rebuffs what I say and slaps me down : Get over it. Thus ends his answers. He's a pro-ender.    He loves the ending. He understands the ending which makes me feel stupid. Weally.   

Anyways, back to circling same deep waters.

I haven't played anything non-ME since March 5th. Well, actually since even a few weeks before then, as the last games I played pre-ME3 were ME1 and ME2. I have a ton of games installed on my PC, everything from AAA heavy-weights to a bunch of indie titles, many favourites I always keep going back to and a couple of games I haven't gotten around to even touching for the first time (including Witcher 2). But since ME3 I have absolutely no motivation or desire to play any of them...

Instead I've mostly been playing ME3 MP, which I actually really enjoy. And I just finished my second ME3 playthrough (NG+) a couple of days ago, after struggling with motivation to finish it for over two months. I thought I might try a new playthrough of the entire series, so I've since started a new ME1 game. Will make some different choices this time, but obviously sticking with Liara as my LI

Ah well, it will pass eventually and I will someday return to my trade empire in X3 or hunting for artefacts and killing mutants in the Zone...

The one good thing about ME3's ending - it forced me to turn to fanfics and I've since read a bunch of great stories I would have otherwise missed. So there's that at least...

Same here.
I'm still clinging on to the Mass Effect universe. Stuck in ME3 multiplayer too. It has been the only game I've played since March 5th.
I too have loads of games waiting to be played, like Witcher 2 and almost 200 other games on Steam.
But I really don't feel like playing anything now, or in the future. Mass Effect 3 honestly killed my interest in gaming.
But I have to thank it for getting me to find fanfics and fanart.

I hate that the businessmen already got their money so they really have no reason to go and fix stuff (not just the ending). I really hope that somewhere in the future there would be a remake of the whole series with all the suggestions that the fans have collected so far. There's so much great stuff by fans that go way over what we actually got.

Modifié par Arcataye, 21 mai 2012 - 05:45 .

[Tyranniac]

Arcataye wrote...

Same here, I've tried so hard to play something else but I find everything so damn boring.
I cling on to the Mass Effect universe so I'm stuck in ME3 multiplayer too. It has been the only game for me for these months.

I too have loads of games waiting to be played, like Witcher 2 and almost 200 other games on Steam.
But I really don't feel like playing anything now, or in the future. Mass Effect 3 honestly killed my interest in gaming.
But I have to thank it for getting me to find fanfics and fanart.

I hate that the businessmen already got their money so they really have no reason to go and fix stuff (not just the ending). I really hope that somewhere in the future there would be a remake of the whole series with all the suggestions that the fans have collected so far. There's so much great stuff by fans that go way over what we actually got.

You've confused me now. Do you like the series or not? 

[Theodoro]

I know I'm a bit late, but since people were talking about Totally Worth It a few pages back, I decided to take it upon myself to read it after being amazed by Rae's '...Can Wait' series.

For a pure smut fic, I have to say that it's very well-written and narrated. And I don't have a problem with Liara wanting to experiment with certain human elements there. However, I found the actual conception anti-climatic as opposed to the explosion of feelings and thoughts Shepard and Liara shared in '...Can Wait', especially on Ilos. I believe that since Liara is the mother, this is exactly where Rae could have expanded and brought the mind melding on a whole new level. And Liara would have wanted it that way, so I'd say she acts a bit out of character in her decision. And I just don't see her with a sex toy, especially in such a crucial point in her life.

As soon as I had finished the '...Can Wait' series, I immediately asked whether Rae had written a fic where Liara conceives, one that further explores on the asari joining, a culmination of sorts. Now that will be something I want to read, since not only is it more in-character, knowing Rae's writing talent, it'll be something amazing and mind-blowing if she sets her mind to it.

[MrStoob]

Hi ho all.  I've posted this on miracleofsound fan creations music thread, but I'm chucking it on here as well anyway.  

Just for background, I play guitar and participate in a monthly music challenge, where our hostess Jude sets a musical style or premise and we get around 2 weeks to write an original piece to suit.  It's not a competition, just some like-minded musicians trying new things.

Last year sometime, the theme was "ballads".  I don't (can't) sing so all my emotion has to come through my guitar.  I was at the height of my ME powers at this time so I chose Liara as my inspiration and often mash my gaming and musical life together.  It's a bit old school sounding, but I think it turned out well.  I ad libbed the vast majority so you're getting my raw Liara love too lol.  Hope you enjoy.
Embrace Eternity

Those brave enough feel free to peruse my other tracks, it ranges from hard metal to stupid.

Modifié par MrStoob, 21 mai 2012 - 05:46 .

[Arcataye]

Tyranniac wrote...

You've confused me now. Do you like the series or not? 

I hate the series with all my heart! I hate it so much that I'm writing a few fanfics, made stupid video edits and currently trying to learn digital painting. I even spend my days on a forum dedicated to this horrible series. I hate it so much that they're the only games I play. All that just because of my undying hate for this series!

- That was a joke.

Seriously tho, I do not understand the question. Was that a reply to the part where I said I wish for a remake?

I love the series, it's the best I have ever played and I'd guess it will stay as the best for many years.
But wouldn't you like a remake that added more to... well everything. Just look at the things people have come up in this thread alone! Like Akernis list a week ago, and that's still just a small list. Why wouldn't you want at least those?

Modifié par Arcataye, 21 mai 2012 - 06:10 .

[Tyranniac]

Arcataye wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...

You've confused me now. Do you like the series or not? 

I hate the series with all my heart! I hate it so much that I'm writing a few fanfics, made stupid video edits and currently trying to learn digital painting. I even spend my days on a forum dedicated to this horrible series! All that just because of my undying hate for this series!
-
Seriously tho, I do not understand the question. Was that a reply to the part where I said I wish for a remake?

I love the series, it's the best I have ever played and I'd guess it will stay as the best for many years.
But wouldn't you like a remake that added more to... well everything. Just look at the things people have come up in this thread alone! Like Akernis list a week ago, and that's still just a small list. Why wouldn't you want at least those?

Of course I would enjoy a remake that added more everything. There is always room for improvement. It's just the way you phrased it made it sound like what we have now is inadequate, and I don't think that's the case since if it was then it wouldn't be our favorite series, right? Maybe I overreacted to what you said due to being a bit tired of negativity.

[Aristobulus500]

Tyranniac wrote...
Of course I would enjoy a remake that added more everything. There is always room for improvement. It's just the way you phrased it made it sound like what we have now is inadequate, and I don't think that's the case since if it was then it wouldn't be our favorite series, right? Maybe I overreacted to what you said due to being a bit tired of negativity.

A series can be inadequate in lots of ways and still be amazing. Mass Effect, especially 3, definitely fits that. I've never been so invested in anything fictional, yet I can still point out flaws and go into detail on things I wish the games would've done.

Especially when it comes to the Asari and Liara.

Theodoro wrote...

I know I'm a bit late, but since people were talking about Totally Worth It a few pages back, I decided to take it upon myself to read it after being amazed by Rae's '...Can Wait' series.

For a pure smut fic, I have to say that it's very well-written and narrated. And I don't have a problem with Liara wanting to experiment with certain human elements there. However, I found the actual conception anti-climatic as opposed to the explosion of feelings and thoughts Shepard and Liara shared in '...Can Wait', especially on Ilos. I believe that since Liara is the mother, this is exactly where Rae could have expanded and brought the mind melding on a whole new level. And Liara would have wanted it that way, so I'd say she acts a bit out of character in her decision. And I just don't see her with a sex toy, especially in such a crucial point in her life.

As soon as I had finished the '...Can Wait' series, I immediately asked whether Rae had written a fic where Liara conceives, one that further explores on the asari joining, a culmination of sorts. Now that will be something I want to read, since not only is it more in-character, knowing Rae's writing talent, it'll be something amazing and mind-blowing if she sets her mind to it.

I have to admit, I hate that Liara finally conceives a child with Shepard...but does it in a human way, using a sex toy, and in a humor based fanfic that completely kills a lot of the emotion and power that moment should've had. And I agree with you that Liara using a sex toy like that is out of character.

It just...grates on me. It's pretty much a porn fanfic so Liara conceiving there is just really out of place, I think, and should've been reserved for another fanfic on the level of "...Can Wait".

Which, hopefully, Rae will do. It's not like she can't make two versions.

Modifié par Aristobulus500, 21 mai 2012 - 06:39 .

[Tyranniac]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...
Of course I would enjoy a remake that added more everything. There is always room for improvement. It's just the way you phrased it made it sound like what we have now is inadequate, and I don't think that's the case since if it was then it wouldn't be our favorite series, right? Maybe I overreacted to what you said due to being a bit tired of negativity.

A series can be inadequate in lots of ways and still be amazing. Mass Effect, especially 3, definitely fits that. I've never been so invested in anything fictional, yet I can still point out flaws and go into detail on things I wish the games would've done.

Especially when it comes to the Asari and Liara.

Inadequate means it isn't good enough. Something can be adequate but still have lots of room for improvement. Nothing is perfect. Just trying to be clear about what I'm saying.

[Theodoro]

Aristobulus500 wrote...
I have to admit, I hate that Liara finally conceives a child with Shepard...but does it in a human way, using a sex toy, and in a humor based fanfic that completely kills a lot of the emotion and power that moment should've had. And I agree with you that Liara using a sex toy like that is out of character.

It just...grates on me. It's pretty much a porn fanfic so Liara conceiving there is just really out of place, I think, and should've been reserved for another fanfic on the level of "...Can Wait".

Which, hopefully, Rae will do. It's not like she can't make two versions.

I don't know whether there's any continuity between Rae's other fics, but I hope that this is not considered a continuation of her "...Can Wait" series, because the build-up of the other stories has certainly been fantastic and mind-blowing. The potential for a proper end of the series is enormous and I wouldn't like to see it go to waste, because she can clearly write tasteful in-character fics beautifully.

Modifié par Theodoro, 21 mai 2012 - 06:54 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Aristobulus500 wrote...
I have to admit, I hate that Liara finally conceives a child with Shepard...but does it in a human way, using a sex toy, and in a humor based fanfic that completely kills a lot of the emotion and power that moment should've had. And I agree with you that Liara using a sex toy like that is out of character.

It just...grates on me. It's pretty much a porn fanfic so Liara conceiving there is just really out of place, I think, and should've been reserved for another fanfic on the level of "...Can Wait".

Which, hopefully, Rae will do. It's not like she can't make two versions.

I read the fic mentioned and something bothered me about it aswell. I suppose you put some words on it for me.

I'll be blunt and say that I found both "Totally worth it" and "Hagalaz can wait" very poor and tasteless, a rather stark contrast to the other two fics written by the same author.

[Aristobulus500]

Really, you don't like Hagalaz? What do you find is flawed with that, that isn't flawed about Illos/Cronos station?

[Akernis]

Tyranniac wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Tyranniac wrote...
Of course I would enjoy a remake that added more everything. There is always room for improvement. It's just the way you phrased it made it sound like what we have now is inadequate, and I don't think that's the case since if it was then it wouldn't be our favorite series, right? Maybe I overreacted to what you said due to being a bit tired of negativity.

A series can be inadequate in lots of ways and still be amazing. Mass Effect, especially 3, definitely fits that. I've never been so invested in anything fictional, yet I can still point out flaws and go into detail on things I wish the games would've done.

Especially when it comes to the Asari and Liara.

Inadequate means it isn't good enough. Something can be adequate but still have lots of room for improvement. Nothing is perfect. Just trying to be clear about what I'm saying.

I agree, the third game for me was fantastic, but there is still lot that could be improved. that said there were scenes that cearly were inadequate, the comfort scene after Thessia being the clearest one for me beyond the ending.

Btw it seem we hit page 1500. so be ready with your pictures boys and girls, fellow Liara lovers
Beautiful Liara

 

Modifié par Akernis, 21 mai 2012 - 08:39 .