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Aristobulus500 wrote...

I've never been a fan of the whole "Liara in sexy underwear" thing (My take is either have her in a setting appropriate dress, or naked. Sexy underwear just looks odd on her), but you have a lot of potential in your art! You're not amazing or anything, but with practice and some refining you could be really good.

As said, her face and eyes look a little off. Her eyes are slightly too small, and I see you were going for a sly smirk with her mouth, but it just kinda...ends up looking like she's got a chipmunk cheek. Like Diana Allers loaned her half of her face.

I'm no artist, so I can't tell you how to fix these flaws, I can only point them out.

And one more thing - drawing with colored pencils...it's okay, but it inevitably makes things look more amateurish and just less...good than they would otherwise. You might try moving up to better materials, eventually?


What do you consider better tools? Just wondering. I do alot of art with colour pencils.

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Peregrin25 wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

I've never been a fan of the whole "Liara in sexy underwear" thing (My take is either have her in a setting appropriate dress, or naked. Sexy underwear just looks odd on her), but you have a lot of potential in your art! You're not amazing or anything, but with practice and some refining you could be really good.

As said, her face and eyes look a little off. Her eyes are slightly too small, and I see you were going for a sly smirk with her mouth, but it just kinda...ends up looking like she's got a chipmunk cheek. Like Diana Allers loaned her half of her face.

I'm no artist, so I can't tell you how to fix these flaws, I can only point them out.

And one more thing - drawing with colored pencils...it's okay, but it inevitably makes things look more amateurish and just less...good than they would otherwise. You might try moving up to better materials, eventually?


If I could afford airbrush paints I would airbush, but yeah... I normaly do not like doing color I prefer all pencil black and wite renderings. I usually do more life drawing style artwork and this style is more comic book with less high contrast. I didn't want the picture to look too realistic based off of the CG Liara but maybe a little more cartoonish. On top of that I wanted it to look like my Liara not BioWare's typical Liara lol. I tried in a way to make it my own. And about the eyes and nose. One trick I learned about how to make sure they look like they should is to look at the drawing in a mirror, only then can you really see if somthing is out of place.

The nose, yeah I dunno what happened there, I was tired when I was inking in that part, the eyes however are done more comic book style where the darker areas arround the outside is her eyelashes more or less. I actually learned that style of doing eyes from Michael Turner

Not to mention got to take into consideration, that is a scan. The actual drawing looks much better lol. I even had to touch it up in photoshop to look more like the actuall drawing. But yeah... Not to mention, I used to draw lots of anime and is hard to break some habits when it comes to color lol.


I like it, nice work:D

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I wrote a fic! None of my Shepards has ever caught my attention like Kira has (see screenie on 1500).

I'd like some input from folks. It's a little long for a first attempt and formatting is probably abominable, but here you go.

The First Secret

Modifié par CrazyGreggy, 22 mai 2012 - 12:55 .


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coatsworth wrote...
What do you consider better tools? Just wondering. I do alot of art with colour pencils.

I would say paint if one have the skills or my personal favourite: digital painting with drawing/painting software like Painter or Photoshop and a drawing tablet. While hard in the biginning and expensive (especially if you want some really quality things) it can work wonders when one learns to use it, I am still in that process but hope to be able to add to our beautiful collection of Liara pictures one day Posted Image

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Aristobulus500

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Peregrin25 wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

I've never been a fan of the whole "Liara in sexy underwear" thing (My take is either have her in a setting appropriate dress, or naked. Sexy underwear just looks odd on her), but you have a lot of potential in your art! You're not amazing or anything, but with practice and some refining you could be really good.

As said, her face and eyes look a little off. Her eyes are slightly too small, and I see you were going for a sly smirk with her mouth, but it just kinda...ends up looking like she's got a chipmunk cheek. Like Diana Allers loaned her half of her face.

I'm no artist, so I can't tell you how to fix these flaws, I can only point them out.

And one more thing - drawing with colored pencils...it's okay, but it inevitably makes things look more amateurish and just less...good than they would otherwise. You might try moving up to better materials, eventually?


If I could afford airbrush paints I would airbush, but yeah... I normaly do not like doing color I prefer all pencil black and wite renderings. I usually do more life drawing style artwork and this style is more comic book with less high contrast. I didn't want the picture to look too realistic based off of the CG Liara but maybe a little more cartoonish. On top of that I wanted it to look like my Liara not BioWare's typical Liara lol. I tried in a way to make it my own. And about the eyes and nose. One trick I learned about how to make sure they look like they should is to look at the drawing in a mirror, only then can you really see if somthing is out of place.


Eh, black and white is boring, I think. I don't have a problem with you coloring it - it's just things like colored pencils and such will make things look too...sketchy and amateurish, even if you actually have lots of talent. It's just the tools. I think they can be fine for a rough draft, but you'd need to ink them over afterwards, or do that in a program like photoshop.

As far as "your" Liara compared to "Bioware's" Liara...that doesn't make too much sense. There's only one Liara - if you want to shift her design too much, it won't look like Liara anymore, and in that case, why bother with Liara? Just design your own Asari and go nuts.

I'm not saying you have to use CGI, I'm just saying you have to stick to a certain design. For example, if I take Wrex but remove his scars and change some of his coloring to make my "own" Wrex...then I haven't really drawn a depiction of Wrex. I've drawn a different Krogan and attached his name to it.

You can have your own artistic style, don't misunderstand me, it's just there are certain things that define characters that you have to stick to. For example, even Bioware's own works fall victim to this - in Redemption, Liara doesn't look like Liara - and it isn't because it's done in a comic book style, it's because the artist removed too many of her defining features - didn't draw her freckles, sometimes not even her eyebrow facial markings, and overall ended up making her look like some other Asari and he just called her Liara. If he had included those, it would've looked like Liara done in a comic book style, instead of just..not Liara.

Looking at something reversed does help reveal a lot of the flaws that your mind autocorrects when viewed in the normal orientation though, that's true.

The nose, yeah I dunno what happened there, I was tired when I was inking in that part, the eyes however are done more comic book style where the darker areas arround the outside is her eyelashes more or less. I actually learned that style of doing eyes from Michael Turner

Not to mention got to take into consideration, that is a scan. The actual drawing looks much better lol. I even had to touch it up in photoshop to look more like the actuall drawing. But yeah... Not to mention, I used to draw lots of anime and is hard to break some habits when it comes to color lol.


What I mean about the eyes is just that they are too small. It's not about the darkness, it's just the size. It doesn't quite look like Liara's eyes - compare them.

And anime isn't inherently negative, it can teach you some good stylistic designs, too, you just have to know when to apply them and how to, and how to change them up, too, when it's not fitting.

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CrazyGreggy wrote...

I wrote a fic! None of my Shepards has ever caught my attention like Kira has (see screenie on 1500).

I'd like some input from folks. It's a little long for a first attempt and formatting is probably abominable, but here you go.

The First Secret

Too tired right now, I promise to give it a look tomorrow Posted Image

#37532
Aristobulus500

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Also, for reference, I'm going to post some art I like of Liara that isn't CGI (so I'm excluding things like Neeh's work here, because while it's extremely talented, I want to show off stuff that isn't done through animation or model editing, it was in some way drawn, even if it was digitally drawn.)

I'm no artist, so I won't be able to really say how these were made, what tools or anything like that, but I think it gives a good example of very high quality style work, and if you can tell what tools were used to make this, it can be an inspiration.

I'm assuming none of these were CGI, but again I'm no artist. Just making assumptions.

I'm going to assume these went through multiple stages to be created.

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Welcome Crimson!

I missed 1500!

Oh well have a hug :P

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MrStoob wrote...

Hi ho all.  I've posted this on miracleofsound fan creations music thread, but I'm chucking it on here as well anyway.  :P

Just for background, I play guitar and participate in a monthly music challenge, where our hostess Jude sets a musical style or premise and we get around 2 weeks to write an original piece to suit.  It's not a competition, just some like-minded musicians trying new things.

Last year sometime, the theme was "ballads".  I don't (can't) sing so all my emotion has to come through my guitar.  I was at the height of my ME powers at this time so I chose Liara as my inspiration and often mash my gaming and musical life together.  It's a bit old school sounding, but I think it turned out well.  I ad libbed the vast majority so you're getting my raw Liara love too lol.  Hope you enjoy.
Embrace Eternity

Those brave enough feel free to peruse my other tracks, it ranges from hard metal to stupid.



Posted Image  You have the Space 1999 lunar base as the wallpaper. SF fan?  Posted Image   Moonbase Alpha, come in....Eagle One, come in, Eagle One...huff huff...

Tune is nice but I wish it's not a electric guitar. Takes some getting used to.

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 22 mai 2012 - 01:14 .


#37535
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Peregrin25 wrote...

Here is how I show my Liara love! This was drawn by me free hand and colored with colored pencils.

*pic*

That took me about 5 hours and is the first drawing I have done in about 5 years. I just did this over the course of the last 2 days.




I like it...but Liara never wears underwear ^_^

#37536
MrStoob

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Aaah, cool calming pictures of Liara. Maybe that'll stop the burning sensation of the sparkly Edward picture I just saw on the Tali thread lol.

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Obsidian Gryphon wrote...

MrStoob wrote...

Hi ho all.  I've posted this on miracleofsound fan creations music thread, but I'm chucking it on here as well anyway.  :P

Just for background, I play guitar and participate in a monthly music challenge, where our hostess Jude sets a musical style or premise and we get around 2 weeks to write an original piece to suit.  It's not a competition, just some like-minded musicians trying new things.

Last year sometime, the theme was "ballads".  I don't (can't) sing so all my emotion has to come through my guitar.  I was at the height of my ME powers at this time so I chose Liara as my inspiration and often mash my gaming and musical life together.  It's a bit old school sounding, but I think it turned out well.  I ad libbed the vast majority so you're getting my raw Liara love too lol.  Hope you enjoy.
Embrace Eternity

Those brave enough feel free to peruse my other tracks, it ranges from hard metal to stupid.



Posted Image  You have the Space 1999 lunar base as the wallpaper. SF fan?  Posted Image   Moonbase Alpha, come in....Eagle One, come in, Eagle One...huff huff...

Tune is nice but I wish it's not a electric guitar. Takes some getting used to.


Unfortunately (showing my age...) Space 1999 is my childhood era, and yes I'm a bit of a SF fan.  And who can resist the 70's waka-waka guitar theme tune?

#37538
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MrStoob wrote...

Aaah, cool calming pictures of Liara. Maybe that'll stop the burning sensation of the sparkly Edward picture I just saw on the Tali thread lol.


GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH EDWARD STUPID VAMPIRESPARKLEMORON! YOu've seen the very pits of hell and survived.So have a pic!

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MidnightRaith wrote...

I'm craving for a fic that features both Shep's mom and Aethyta. And it also has to be in character.... Read one once with Hannah Shepard meeting Liara and Femshep for lunch or something and she was... kinda mean. It was weird and didn't fit the conversation we have with her in ME1 at all. It was a bit funny, I guess, so long as I tried to actively ignore that we already had a sample of her character in the game.

But, yeah, I have a feeling that Hannah and Aethyta would be awkward together.


I'm actually writing one.  So, if you're patient, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

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MrStoob wrote...

Unfortunately (showing my age...) Space 1999 is my childhood era, and yes I'm a bit of a SF fan.  And who can resist the 70's waka-waka guitar theme tune?


So we're old geezers Posted Image  The earliest SF I recalled was some Japanese black and white along with a slew of others; Forbidden Planet, Lost In Space, Land of the Giants, Blake's 7, etc, etc. Now that you remind me of it ... Space 1999's main theme was .... out of this world. Posted Image Love it still. Heh. ... and I'm OT...I know.

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IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

MidnightRaith wrote...

I'm craving for a fic that features both Shep's mom and Aethyta. And it also has to be in character.... Read one once with Hannah Shepard meeting Liara and Femshep for lunch or something and she was... kinda mean. It was weird and didn't fit the conversation we have with her in ME1 at all. It was a bit funny, I guess, so long as I tried to actively ignore that we already had a sample of her character in the game.

But, yeah, I have a feeling that Hannah and Aethyta would be awkward together.


I'm actually writing one.  So, if you're patient, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.


:):happy::D^_^

I can't wait.

Huzzah! I finished my type up for my fic. Now, I just have to do what I dread most: proof-read my own work.... Not that I don't enjoy proof reading, I actually love it. However, when it comes to my own work.... Ugh, something about it always makes it hard for me to do. Then again, if I don't do it myself at least twice, then I worry that whoever I've lasso-ed in to help me with the editing will miss something and my OCD personality will kick in.....

#37542
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Talking about Javik Romances you say? I guess I will post something I saw on the Femshep thread earlier today.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

Tila looks stunning, even Javik is all like "Is this how Primitive seduction works? Because I think it is" to which Shepard slowly backs away into the Elevator....


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On the subject of fanfiction and regarding fShep/Liara offspring, I'm saying fShep because that's the fanfic I generally read I found it interesting reading the authors interpretations of the pregnancy timespan and subsequent birthing process. It's a pity that we know so little in regards to how the asari deal with childbirth, I for one would love to know what their rituals if they have any would be, some fanfic authors have come up with some very believable and interesting customs that could be canon in my opinion.

Also I recently read a fanfic which had Liara going into premature labour due in fact to her youth which is plausible considering established asari codex info. Just thought something like a difficult labour for Liara if she was to have Shep's kids is more likely due to her youth. Although this is all speculation if we consider asari lifespans are just similar to human youth, middle age, elderly in regards to milestones in your life.

I don't know just found the whole thing interesting, some had Liara having a family birthing ritual while others had her being rushed to hospital, I for one would prefer a more traditional asari birthing ritual, going to the hospital is just so normal, I would love to explore Liara's alien heritage more. Bioware we're waiting...

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Well, Crimson, perhaps it's better that way that there is no official word or not. I mean, PMC and I often talk about this, but one of the great things about the ME universe is that there are so many toys for us to play with and we can interpret them to our personal uses... well, as fanfiction writers, anyway.

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Posted Image

Finished this picture of Liara last night, and touched up a few details this morning. I’m thinking of doing a few more characters. High Rs image, details and tools used are on my DeviantART page which you can get to by clicking the picture. I hope you like it :)

Modifié par ThePinkFoxx, 22 mai 2012 - 02:52 .


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1500 happened while I was asleep, did it? Hmm... I'll have to make up for that.

How about 'Hot Times' by *Mallyxable?

DEFINITELY NSFW!

http://mallyxable.de...t.com/#/d50rnat
(SO want to post the pic, and there's so much NSFW on here anyway, but by request^)

Sheesh... is it getting hot in here, or is it just me?

Modifié par kyg_20X6, 22 mai 2012 - 03:27 .


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ThePinkFoxx wrote...

*snip*
Finished this picture of Liara last night, and touched up a few details this morning. I’m thinking of doing a few more characters. High Rs image, details and tools used are on my DeviantART page which you can get to by clicking the picture. I hope you like it :)

Well done :wizard: It's very beautiful, but I believe that Liara has eyelash.
EDIT: @kyg_20X6 : ehh ..just leave the link there, don't post the picture please. It's really NSFW



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Crap, my summary is just not coming to me. The tags are rather easy, just have to put Liara and Shepard in there for the search, but I usually like to have my descriptions pop a little.... And I hate posing questions in my summaries. Things like "Will Liara fall for her dashing commander?" and crap like that get on my nerves. Makes the fic sound like a soap opera or something.

EDIT: Yes! Finally came up with something. Not the greatest summary, but I guess it works..... Anyway, here's the link for the thing I've managed to write in six months.

Striking

Modifié par MidnightRaith, 22 mai 2012 - 03:41 .


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kyg_20X6 wrote...

1500 happened while I was asleep, did it? Hmm... I'll have to make up for that.

How about 'Hot Times' by *Mallyxable?

DEFINITELY NSFW!

*snip*

Sheesh... is it getting hot in here, or is it just me?


Well... uh... *ahem*

Would rather Liara be in front, personally. ;)

Modifié par Makrys, 22 mai 2012 - 03:38 .


#37550
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And btw... yet another Liara hate thread: http://social.biowar...ndex/12175749/1

*sigh* 

Modifié par Makrys, 22 mai 2012 - 03:27 .