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even control I find a wee bit questionable (although more tolerable then synthesis, im strongly against making my shepard into a martyr/god and seperating myself (the player) even further from my Human Shepard (which i found ME3 did from the start of the game) with naive "I can save everyone at teh cost of myself" logic), i mean what chance does a human mind have against centuries old Reaperized Synthetic/A.I ones. Whose to say that in 10 years Shepard's concsiouness and logic and ability to control isn't comrpromised/swayed by a mathematical error in coding or something or he develops a case of...stockholm syndrome and continues the cycles?
That and teh whole catalysts "You will die" comment... the whole "if your dead how can you control" argument.

but this is all OT and has been talked about before im sure, no need for discussion really.  Just thinkin' aloud.

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lillitheris wrote...

Egads, please no London children. If you must headcanon a conception, please put it before the Cerberus attack :P


Lol this really freaks some people out huh:P For me that scene was so pure and perfect in their own world away from the horrible reality that surrounded them, it was different then anthing we have seen before with the love scenes, it was beautiful and I for one and I'm proberly alone on this one would have been happy if they conceived here. I like the fact that it's on earth, not the Normandy, yeah it's a warzone but for that one brief moment they can drift away into their little world. Ok I'm ready for the stones now:D 

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CrimsonN7 wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Egads, please no London children. If you must headcanon a conception, please put it before the Cerberus attack :P


Lol this really freaks some people out huh:P For me that scene was so pure and perfect in their own world away from the horrible reality that surrounded them,


Yep, that’s exactly what it was. :)

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doozer12 wrote...
That and teh whole catalysts "You will die" comment... the whole "if your dead how can you control" argument.


I always compare Control to flicking a lightswitch that promptly causes you to be electrocuted to death. Though the million dollar question is how long will the switch stay in the position my toasted corpse left it?

Frak if anyone knows.

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lillitheris wrote
Yep, that’s exactly what it was. :)


Fair enough you ain't a fan of London, good thing I don't write fanfiction, I'd disgust some folk jk :P

Synthesis and control,  I always ignore those options, it feeds into the reaper's twisted logic. Destruction blow em back into dark space although why the hell would Shep think it's a good idea to continue to walk into that exploding tube, yeah Shep I'd shoot from a safe distance seems a bit dangerous:huh:

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Change of topic, any other femshep players pissed at the forced flirting between her and Vega? Really wish you could put a stop to it (or better yet, let Liara have a 'quiet word' with Mr. Vega).

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adneate wrote...

doozer12 wrote...
That and teh whole catalysts "You will die" comment... the whole "if your dead how can you control" argument.


I always compare Control to flicking a lightswitch that promptly causes you to be electrocuted to death. Though the million dollar question is how long will the switch stay in the position my toasted corpse left it?

Frak if anyone knows.


Pretty much! 
But hey it could also end up as a rainbows and puppy ending and you reign supreme over the millenia old, technologoically advanced and beyond our comprhension, super-cthulu.  Interpretation right? :wizard: and all that..

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

Change of topic, any other femshep players pissed at the forced flirting between her and Vega? Really wish you could put a stop to it (or better yet, let Liara have a 'quiet word' with Mr. Vega).


Would have preferred if Javik offered to throw that meathead out the airlock:devil: In ME2 I solved that problem with Mr. Taylor, ah that missile just loved his face:D

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doozer12 wrote...

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Yeah, my two main problems with the ending were people acting out of character (e.g. squad abandoning you, Joker fleeing, no one caring you're dead/'dead') and not knowing what happened to everyone afterwards. That sort of why I have hope for the EC, and was buoyed by what Merizan tweeted (it confirmed/gave hope that both those would be addressed).


I'm still more concerned about the Reapers. I love the Reapers damn it.


Hahaa yea... Sovereign/Nazaara? in ME1 I friggan adored, the amount of cold menace in that voice was just epic.  Hell even harbinger had his(its) moments...all he needed was a curled mustache and melovolant laugh!  ... alas, me3 has made both of them look like medicore pawns and the laughing stock of the series.  Shame. :crying:
Where so many horror/thriller flicks go wrong - by revealing their monsters and/or their motives (or even by giving them a motive eg: Reapers).  If that makes sense, words are not my friends right now... 

Agreed, along with the whole leaving LI and squadmates on some lone planet the fact that the game practically killed the Reapers as intimidating and interesting villains with that dreadful child-thing was my biggest dissappointment with ME3.

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

Change of topic, any other femshep players pissed at the forced flirting between her and Vega? Really wish you could put a stop to it (or better yet, let Liara have a 'quiet word' with Mr. Vega).


Hmm nah. I thought it was alright. It wasn't as bad as when Femshep used her flirty voice on Jacob....now THAT was bad! :sick:

I thought it was entertaining....Vega is more of a bro to my femshep. This kind of flirting that they did is similar to what I do with some of my friends...or they with me :D 

I didn't even think I would like Vega very much when the characters were revealed before release but he is quite a cool guy and I like him. 

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

Change of topic, any other femshep players pissed at the forced flirting between her and Vega? Really wish you could put a stop to it (or better yet, let Liara have a 'quiet word' with Mr. Vega).


I'm not really attached to him, but he is a member of my crew and that get hims a few rights to be treated with an ounce of respect - however the whole "loco", "lola", etc ...seemed like BW was trying too hard to throw in that ounce of multicultural-ness. 
The "flirting" was annoying but if you tell him no after the brawl scene with him - hes a bit more bearable?  I dont think liara feels at all threatened by him tbh :P at least not when it come to my renegade shep, that Asari know's my shep is all hers.:devil:

But I also didn't bring him along on many missions - didn't converse with him much in the cargo hold or the citadel - I all ready had a soldier in my squad and my shepard (or ashley) was it, so didn't really have much chance to get to know him beyond what I had to.  (ive only played ME3 twice, and thats really all im going to play it)

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@kyg_20X6 I didn't really mind Shep flirting with Vega a bit, she just seemed like she was teasing him. Though I don't have a Shep that lets Vega call her Lola. I got the impression Shepard wasn't Vega's type anyway, he seemed more interested in Cortez.

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doozer12 wrote...
Also: Apologies in advance but...what would a synthesis ending do to a possibly pregnant liara?:huh:  *frowns* food for thought.  No need for discussion really.



The whole idea of synthesis is just so wrong.

People who are different can never get along, we must make everyone the same. :sick:

I'll just stick with control and destroy.

The idea of synthesis is plain stupid, and that's besides the obvious problem of how by the goddess it's even supposed to work; I mean, a wave of energy just replaces the dna of every living thing in the galaxy, along with all the biochemical machinery that makes dna work at all in the first place... I hate the expression, but there's just no other way to describe it other than space magic.
But as I said, beside this obvious (and huge) problem, there's the issue of what does it even achieve? It either does absolutely nothing to break the cycle or it drastically alters the mind of every single sentient being in the galaxy (to what extent, goddess only knows). Since synthesis presumably does break the cycle (or so the Catalyst ****** claims), I can only assume that means lobotomies for everyone... :sick:

doozer12 wrote...

even control I find a wee bit questionable (although more tolerable then synthesis, im strongly against making my shepard into a martyr/god and seperating myself (the player) even further from my Human Shepard (which i found ME3 did from the start of the game) with naive "I can save everyone at teh cost of myself" logic), i mean what chance does a human mind have against centuries old Reaperized Synthetic/A.I ones. Whose to say that in 10 years Shepard's concsiouness and logic and ability to control isn't comrpromised/swayed by a mathematical error in coding or something or he develops a case of...stockholm syndrome and continues the cycles?
That and teh whole catalysts "You will die" comment... the whole "if your dead how can you control" argument.

but this is all OT and has been talked about before im sure, no need for discussion really.  Just thinkin' aloud.

Besides the question of whether control of the Reapers is even possible and for how long, my main issue with Control is that I can only see an indoctrinated Shepard choosing it. And I'm not even talking within the context of IT but in general.
I mean, just minutes before, Shep was convincing TIM that the ONLY reason he thinks he can control the Reapers is because he's been indoctrinated, his actions subverted to serve and help the Reapers' agenda. And before that we heard Vendetta tell practically the same story, their own efforts with the Crucible were foiled by indoctrinated traitors in their own ranks who were also convinced that Reapers could be controlled.
So I think a Shepard that is still in control of her mental faculties would be able to recognise the pattern - everyone that has tried to control the Reapers was lead to the belief that they could do it by the Reapers themselves, through indoctrination. All kinds of bells should have gone off in her head when the little translucent ****** presented her with the option for Control, even more so when he even acknowledged that TIM couldn't control the Reapers because he was already controlled by them. But you Shepard, you're different, honest, you really could control us, because you're not indoctrinated; really, you're not, trust us. Ehm, yeah right, how stupid does he think Shepard is...

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kyg_20X6 wrote...
Change of topic, any other femshep players pissed at the forced flirting between her and Vega? Really wish you could put a stop to it (or better yet, let Liara have a 'quiet word' with Mr. Vega).


You shut it down just by going "I don't need a reason" for the first conversation and "It's Commander" after the fight, then just don't talk to him for the Tattoo thing. If you don't have the conversation it never happened along with all it's implications. It would have been nice to have the first conversation with Liara on the SR2 lock the romance and not have to wait for the second one but oh well.

Vega does his stupid thing and Samantha makes her googly eyes at Paragon FemShep. I only take offense when Shepard responds without my input and with Vega it's nowhere near what it was with Jacob. That was really bad.

Plus Vega's true love was Cortez, stop talking him to death and kiss him you big galut!

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Would have preferred if Javik offered to throw that meathead out the airlock:devil: In ME2 I solved that problem with Mr. Taylor, ah that missile just loved his face:D


As long as I can punt Javik out after him! HA! :devil:

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adneate wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...
Change of topic, any other femshep players pissed at the forced flirting between her and Vega? Really wish you could put a stop to it (or better yet, let Liara have a 'quiet word' with Mr. Vega).


You shut it down just by going "I don't need a reason" for the first conversation and "It's Commander" after the fight, then just don't talk to him for the Tattoo thing. If you don't have the conversation it never happened along with all it's implications. It would have been nice to have the first conversation with Liara on the SR2 lock the romance and not have to wait for the second one but oh well.

Vega does his stupid thing and Samantha makes her googly eyes at Paragon FemShep. I only take offense when Shepard responds without my input and with Vega it's nowhere near what it was with Jacob. That was really bad.

Plus Vega's true love was Cortez, stop talking him to death and kiss him you big galut!


haha yes.  this. :D

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

Change of topic, any other femshep players pissed at the forced flirting between her and Vega? Really wish you could put a stop to it (or better yet, let Liara have a 'quiet word' with Mr. Vega).


No, but really only because that happened to suit me – or, well, Eevy – fine. It plays after Mars where the reunion with Liara makes it rather obvious that the commander is probably not actually into Vega so it’s just the kind of friendly army banter that Vega wouldn’t think twice about going with.

That said there’re tons of Shepards, Liara or no Liara, for whom it’s inappropriate, so there should have been an alternative.

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

Change of topic, any other femshep players pissed at the forced flirting between her and Vega? Really wish you could put a stop to it (or better yet, let Liara have a 'quiet word' with Mr. Vega).

The flirting itself didn't bother me as much as me having no control over it and initially not even knowing what it would lead to. With how easily Bioware has had Shepard/Hawk/Warden fall into an unwanted romance before, the first few times my femShep did it I was actually worried that I was really starting a romance with Vega (at that point I had no idea he actually wasn't a romance option).
So I think this was one of the things that should really have been left to player choice, not auto-dialogue.

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Off topic I can't be the only one who lol'd when Aethyta admitted that she had kids with hanar, not because of the obvious but because Hanar are renowned for being so excessively polite in conversation and would take offence at improper language and Aethyta is well, you know, how did that match happen? :huh:

Also I would have loved to have Shep taking Liara to see the new 'Blasto' movie for their date :P

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Like anything involving Aethyta there was probably lots of alcohol involved. A lot of alcohol.

Maybe like Benezia that Hanar found Aethyta's total lack of civility and self censor very enthralling, or maybe she just drunkenly stumbled into him and said "Hey jellyfish you wanna get laid?" To which he thought "Well that's a very kind offer this one would like to get laid".

She's not exactly the whisper sweet nothings kind, in fact she's not even the whispering kind.

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Chapter 13 with some Liara is (finally) out. Next one will probably be Friday!

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

Change of topic, any other femshep players pissed at the forced flirting between her and Vega? Really wish you could put a stop to it (or better yet, let Liara have a 'quiet word' with Mr. Vega).


Hmmm, yes and no.  As a 'Mary Sue' paragon, I let him call me 'lola' even though I didn't want him to.  His flirting was obvoiusly all bravado and humorous at times so I didn't mind playing a little.  But I was pleased that when I called him out on his flirting, he wilted hehe.

"You could do with a little more deference" summed him up well.

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

Change of topic, any other femshep players pissed at the forced flirting between her and Vega? Really wish you could put a stop to it (or better yet, let Liara have a 'quiet word' with Mr. Vega).


Liara: hello Vega
Vega: Hey Liara
Liara: So you been hanging around shep alot recently 
Vega: What can I say she likes my good looks
Liara: Is that so mmm.... does she know the other looks you give?
Vega: WHAT? *shocked*
Liara: *sinister look*:devil: oh, that look you give to Steve before a mission.
Vega: I have no idea what your talking about...
Liara: Oh Vega....The Shadow Broker sees and hears all:devil:
Vega:.........
Liara: Shep is my lovely bondmate, I'm sure she be interested in this news.
Vega: Please, don't tell her
Liara: I won't but I'll save it for a rainny day if it comes......we clear?
Vega: Crystal
Liara walks away but stops and turns around. 'Oh and Vega." he turns, she gives him the hand signal with her fingers that indicate ' I got my eyes on you',  "Enjoy your evening."
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adneate wrote...

Like anything involving Aethyta there was probably lots of alcohol involved. A lot of alcohol.

Maybe like Benezia that Hanar found Aethyta's total lack of civility and self censor very enthralling, or maybe she just drunkenly stumbled into him and said "Hey jellyfish you wanna get laid?" To which he thought "Well that's a very kind offer this one would like to get laid".

She's not exactly the whisper sweet nothings kind, in fact she's not even the whispering kind.


Lol, true that, that poor Hanar was in for a rough ride literally it seems if Liara's chat with dad was anything to go by, if it's all civilized, you're not doing it right:devil: Eeck mental images commencing, fornax territory really :sick:

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Appros Aethyta, don't think this one been posted yet

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