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[Barquiel]

I am not a big multiplayer fan, but it's nice to see a map on Thessia (I just hope it's not some underground shelter...)

Yuqi wrote...

by lilaaku

This is so cute

[DarkCloudd]

TrulyInnovative wrote...

I see in some fanfics that when Liara is rescued by Shepard, it's the first time she sees a human. I assume we have no confirmation for that in canon? In any case, I do think it can be plausible, considering that humans haven't been that long in the galactic scene and that Liara has probably spent much of that time on various dig sites. Whether Shepard is the first human Liara she sees or not, I quite like fics that explore how Liara sees humans from her perspective. There are obviously a lot of differences between asari and humans like communication (human idioms, body language), physical attributes (hair, etc.), and culture and it's interesting to see how Liara perceives these differences. Likewise, it can be interesting to go into Shepard's head and sees how s(he) deals with being in close contact with many different aliens perhaps for the first time in his/her life.

I can see that it might be Liara's first time seeing a Human in person so to speak. I would imagine that she had seen several humans before on the extranet. The First Contact War only took place what 30 years before the events of ME1? That would have been pretty big news at the time and with Liara being only in her early hundreds she would have lived through it even if she was on a remote dig somewhere. I'm sure she has run across videos with humans in it before.

And to answer your question about the LotSB import flag bug. It corrects the dialogue in the first conversation you have with her on the Normandy. It changed years to half a year. Afaik thats the only difference in the rest of the game. Someone had a link in their signature to the video with it changed but I can't remember who it was now.

[CrimsonN7]

Sorry I'm a little tardy to the party, 

Logan Cloud wrote...

Well I don't really think a Bioware employee is going to admit to playing favorites. They also haven't apologized for the ending that you all hate so much. Or even acknowledged that they did anything wrong.

Liara very clearly has the most attention in the writing proccess. Only the most die-hard and protective Liara fans thinks she doesn't.

You can look at it anyway you want, but for people who don't want to romance her, she is constantly shoved in your face. And it's more often then not in a flirting or romantic tone.

http://t2.gstatic.co...PPmQbZJbL88s3xQ

Also you mean to tell me we there are other options out there instead of Liara:huh:Seems my Shep was too lost in those deep blue eyes to notice anyone else creeping up on her:P

I just lol'd the other day when I heard this 70's gem pumping out of my car radio, this could easily be the unoffical anthem of this thread, you know for sh*tes and giggles sake:D

[Aristobulus500]

MrStoob wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Can't remember if I've seen this before or not, but apparently Mally did do a full-frontal Liara.

http://mallyxable.de...mallyxable&qo=9

Not exactly flattering that one, dunno if it's the lighting or the skin colour/texture, but just seems off somehow.

Yeah. It looks really...off. It's really hard to say exactly why, but, just doesn't look that good.

[lillitheris]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

MrStoob wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Can't remember if I've seen this before or not, but apparently Mally did do a full-frontal Liara.

http://mallyxable.de...mallyxable&qo=9

Not exactly flattering that one, dunno if it's the lighting or the skin colour/texture, but just seems off somehow.

Yeah. It looks really...off. It's really hard to say exactly why, but, just doesn't look that good.

Well, clearly, it is just a woman painted blue and with Liara’s head!

I actually like it despite that. I think what’s throwing you off is just the coloring being more gray (as it is in the actual scene) and the skin specularity being way too high. That could work if she’d just stepped out of the shower or had been vigorously…exercising…but, by and large, asari have roughly the same albedo as human skin does.

[MrStoob]

lillitheris wrote...
That could work if she’d just stepped out of the shower or had been vigorously…exercising…

Let's all just reflect for a moment... 

[CrimsonN7]

Don't know about you guys/gals but I for one would have loved to know what Benezia would of thought of Shepard being Liara's bondmate?

Seems we will never really know her being dead and all:(, but I would like to speculate that she would of been delighted with the match as any kid of theirs would be a great addition to the Asari gene pool. But she would probably be fearful of the dangers that Shepard's job brings, for Liara she would more than likely advise Liara to take a philosophical approach to the union in regards to the fact that humans are so short-lived, enjoy the time you have together.

Also lets say if Shep was being a traditional romantic and asked Benezia for permission to wed her daughter, which she would probably be alittle confused by this human custom or not:whistle:, would she give Shepard her blessing easily or would she let him/her sweat a little? It wouldn't be hard to get Aethyta's approval just buy her some scotch  But I think Benezia may be a little bit formidable and very protective of her daughter. Reading some fanfics and I haven't come across this type of idea, thought it would be an interesting concept to flesh out, combining human and Asari marriage customs and rituals. Any thoughts?

Modifié par CrimsonN7, 25 mai 2012 - 03:03 .

[Tyranniac]

Makrys wrote...

Sometimes I hate Android. <_<

That sounds awesome. 

The app is quite nice. Also, I don't actually have an iPhone so I have to borrow other people's all the time. 

Jebel Krong wrote...

she says it anyway - on earth. So, you don't miss much at all (and frankly i could do without "blue babies" talk anyway).

 

She does? (Also, you're heartless.)

Barquiel wrote...

I am not a big multiplayer fan, but it's nice to see a map on Thessia (I just hope it's not some underground shelter...)

 

Don't worry, it isn't.

frudi wrote...
*astrology rant*

 

Agree.

[Akernis]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

Don't know about you guys/gals but I for one would have loved to know what Benezia would of thought of Shepard being Liara's bondmate?

Seems we will never really know her being dead and all:(, but I would like to speculate that she would of been delighted with the match as any kid of theirs would be a great addition to the Asari gene pool. But she would probably be fearful of the dangers that Shepard's job brings, for Liara she would more than likely advise Liara to take a philosophical approach to the union in regards to the fact that humans are so short-lived, enough the time you have together.

I think that would be interesting to know as well, I imagine that Benezia would be somewhat worried about what Shepard's job would mena for Liara but I don't think that she would disapprove of Shepard personally. I think she would not particularly care about how Shepard is when she sees that they love each other but it would be interesting to hear her thought on the matter.

CrimsonN7 wrote...
Also lets say if Shep was being a traditional romantic and asked Benezia for permission to wed her daughter, which she would probably be alittle confused by this human custom or not, would she give Shepard her blessing easily or would she let him/her sweat a little? It wouldn't be hard to get Aethyta's approval just buy her some scotch  But I think Benezia may be a little bit formidable and very protective of her daughter. Reading some fanfics and I haven't come across this type of idea, thought it would be an interesting concept to flesh out, combining human and Asari marriage customs and rituals. Any thoughts?

I don't get that whole concept of "asking permission" to marry her daughter, there is nothing romantic about that imo it is not as if Liara belongs to Benezia and has to obey her wishes, the girl can marry/bond with whoever she damn well please and love. Which just happens to be Shepard

Modifié par Akernis, 25 mai 2012 - 03:12 .

[MrStoob]

From what we know of Benezia, I'd say that whatever makes Liara happy would make her happy. She did seem to be a forward thinking Matriarch.

[Theodoro]

Unfortunately, we didn't get to see or know much of Benezia before she was indoctrinated - there are bits here and there, but not enough to fill the complete picture of her persona. From what we've heard, though, I think we can deduce that among other things, she was a compassionate and caring person who loved her daughter, so I think she will approve of Liara being with Shepard. She's somewhat gotten used to having her daughter in danger all the time with the remote archeological digs she goes to, and she'd much rather have her saving then galaxy than performing in a club as a dancer, which is what some asari her age do.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

*flip edit*

Never understood threads of purpose to find birds of a feather to peck to death a char which they don't like. It's already done, redone and rehash over and over again on a endless spin that goes nowhere.  

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 25 mai 2012 - 04:14 .

[adneate]

Akernis wrote...
I don't get that whole concept of "asking permission" to marry her daughter, there is nothing romantic about that imo it is not as if Liara belongs to Benezia and has to obey her wishes, the girl can marry/bond with whoever she damn well please and love. Which just happens to be Shepard.

It's a pretty old concept, it reflects the patriarchal structure of human society. A woman is looked after by first their father then their husband, the whole permission thing is more a nobility concept since marriages between the high born were more business and political arrangements than any actual emotion on the part of those involved. It got converted into the father making sure a suitor could look after his daughter. That interpretation stuck around until probably the 60's and older generations still consider it proper for a man to ask the parents first as a sign of respect. It's a rapidly dying concept though I doubt it would still be around by Mass Effect's timeline.

Though I'm sure the structure of a wedding would be the same, it depends on how traditionalist Shepard wants to be.  I imagine a "Christian" wedding could be pretty odd to Asari since it's very steeped in gender roles, the whole walk down the aisle to give away the bride in particular might throw them. Or maybe they'd like all the pomp and pagentry of the ceremony, in the same way we'd all be interested in how a bondmate ceremony works.

[Mallyx]

frudi wrote...

lillitheris wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

MrStoob wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Can't remember if I've seen this before or not, but apparently Mally did do a full-frontal Liara.

http://mallyxable.de...mallyxable&qo=9

Not exactly flattering that one, dunno if it's the lighting or the skin colour/texture, but just seems off somehow.

Yeah. It looks really...off. It's really hard to say exactly why, but, just doesn't look that good.

Well, clearly, it is just a woman painted blue and with Liara’s head!

I actually like it despite that. I think what’s throwing you off is just the coloring being more gray (as it is in the actual scene) and the skin specularity being way too high. That could work if she’d just stepped out of the shower or had been vigorously…exercising…but, by and large, asari have roughly the same albedo as human skin does.

I believe that is Liara's actual in-game model, not just her head photoshopped on another woman's body. It still looks somewhat off, I guess that's because of the positioning of the light source and specularity of her skin. Still like it though...

Thanks for the feedback
With color, I really did not know. But I think Asari children have an intense blue, certainly no more gray. I think that the spec is pretty good and that overall it does not look so bad ..
btw : It was more like a shot in the dark with the baby. I was rather about impressed by the picture

MrStoob wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Can't remember if I've seen this before or not, but apparently Mally did do a full-frontal Liara.

http://mallyxable.de...mallyxable&qo=9

Not exactly flattering that one, dunno if it's the lighting or the skin colour/texture, but just seems off somehow.

I agree, I made ​​perhaps the first and it looks terribly wrong 

Modifié par Mallyx, 25 mai 2012 - 03:48 .

[Akernis]

adneate wrote...

Akernis wrote...
I don't get that whole concept of "asking permission" to marry her daughter, there is nothing romantic about that imo it is not as if Liara belongs to Benezia and has to obey her wishes, the girl can marry/bond with whoever she damn well please and love. Which just happens to be Shepard.

It's a pretty old concept, it reflects the patriarchal structure of human society. A woman is looked after by first their father then their husband, the whole permission thing is more a nobility concept since marriages between the high born were more business and political arrangements than any actual emotion on the part of those involved. It got converted into the father making sure a suitor could look after his daughter. That interpretation stuck around until probably the 60's and older generations still consider it proper for a man to ask the parents first as a sign of respect. It's a rapidly dying concept though I doubt it would still be around by Mass Effect's timeline.

It was not meant as a "I don't undertsand the concept" more as a "I don't agree with the concept" yeah, I have to express myself more clearly

frudi wrote...
There's what appears to be a picture of the map in the announcement of the DLC:

It only shows an interior part of the map, I hope we also get to venture outside for some nice vistas.

Have I been gone while something important happend with the weapons and troops in-game? curberus with biotic whips ans Vorcha with douple-douple omni-blades?  

Modifié par Akernis, 25 mai 2012 - 04:02 .

[Aristobulus500]

Mallyx wrote...
Thanks for the feedback
With color, I really did not know. But I think Asari children have an intense blue, certainly no more gray. I think that the spec is pretty good and that overall it does not look so bad ..
btw : It was more like a shot in the dark with the baby. I was rather about impressed by the picture

Well, Asari themselves are affected dramatically by lighting, not just children. Look at Liara throughout the games - even in the same scene - her skin can change colors dramatically based around where she is and what kind of lighting is hitting her. Like, for example, the sex scene has her looking everything from a bright vibrant blue, to a darker purple.

[adneate]

Akernis wrote...
It was not meant as a "I don't undertsand the concept" more as a "I don't agree with the concept" yeah, I have to express myself more clearly

Oh I'm sure it was all for my sake anyway trying to figure out how exactly you'd blend a strict gender roled ceremony with a species that has no gender roles or concept of them. You could put on a very good show if FemShep likes dresses and being the center of attention of a little bit before she meets Liara at the altar. MShep would probably be way more Asari centric, since a human wedding isn't about the husband. He just stands there with some friends and tries not to screw the whole thing up when it's his turn to talk.

Not much to show off to the aliens . . . unless your Shepard also likes dresses. In that case the Asari wouldn't know the difference, so it'd seem just about the same to them.

[Tyranniac]

Akernis wrote...

Have I been gone while something important happend with the weapons and troops in-game? curberus with biotic whips ans Vorcha with douple-douple omni-blades?  

New MP DLC, Rebellion. And that's Ex-Cerberus. Former commandos like Randall Ezno from Infiltrator.

[Mallyx]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Mallyx wrote...
Thanks for the feedback
With color, I really did not know. But I think Asari children have an intense blue, certainly no more gray. I think that the spec is pretty good and that overall it does not look so bad ..
btw : It was more like a shot in the dark with the baby. I was rather about impressed by the picture

Well, Asari themselves are affected dramatically by lighting, not just children. Look at Liara throughout the games - even in the same scene - her skin can change colors dramatically based around where she is and what kind of lighting is hitting her. Like, for example, the sex scene has her looking everything from a bright vibrant blue, to a darker purple.

Actually I did not do it by Liara. Some Asari have much darker skin than Liara ...
I think that no matter how dark / light color can be good for baby or any Asari .. It is the detail..

[CrimsonN7]

adneate wrote.

Oh I'm sure it was all for my sake anyway trying to figure out how exactly you'd blend a strict gender roled ceremony with a species that has no gender roles or concept of them. You could put on a very good show if FemShep likes dresses and being the center of attention of a little bit before she meets Liara at the altar. MShep would probably be way more Asari centric, since a human wedding isn't about the husband. He just stands there with some friends and tries not to screw the whole thing up when it's his turn to talk.

Not much to show off to the aliens . . . unless your Shepard also likes dresses. In that case the Asari wouldn't know the difference, so it'd seem just about the same to them.

Here's an artist interpretation of Shep's more human-centric wedding to Liara, but personally for my Shep I would prefer to go down the Asari route, just out of curiosity and I think it would mean more to Liara then to my Shep, it's more her day for my Shep:D

[Theodoro]

Speaking of weddings, how do you guys feel the asari equivalent of that would be? Would they need such a ceremony to reaffirm their love? If so, how do you picture it happening - an event among friends and family like a wedding, or something more personal?

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Modifié par Theodoro, 25 mai 2012 - 05:12 .

[Aristobulus500]

I'm honestly not sure, but I think if they do have something, it'll be incredibly different than the christian style wedding most of us would think of for humans. There's a lot of potential for something interesting to be done with an Asari wedding though.

I do think it'd be more personal, though.