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[MrStoob]

The're pretty social people, so they'd probably want a ceremony or party or celebration of some kind. Being a spiritual people there'd probably be lots of symbolism. I suppose the point of marriage in any culture is as much to announce to all that you are becoming exclusive to each other, so 'witnesses' (friends/family) would probably attend. Due to the asari 'melding' process, there may well be a part of the ceremony where the couple 'join', though not necessarily in the middle of proceedings.

On the other hand, due to the pure blood taboo, they may not have their own ceremonies at all and just go with their bond mate's culture.

[TMA LIVE]

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Theodoro wrote...

Speaking of weddings, how do you guys feel the asari equivalent of that would be? Would they need such a ceremony to reaffirm their love? If so, how do you picture it happening - an event among friends and family like a wedding, or something more personal?

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Um...

* Private ceremony presided by the most elder matrich of the clan, attended and witnssed by closest family / clan and friends. Venue by the sea. A simple ritual but of deep significance. I say this because I think they would keep records (like a family/ clan record) of important events within the family.

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 26 mai 2012 - 12:58 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Your handiwork?

[lillitheris]

TMA LIVE wrote...

I don’t quite see a Liara, but it’s very good nonetheless. Ashkaidin T’Soni-Shepard, maybe?

Yours?

[PMC65]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

Don't know about you guys/gals but I for one would have loved to know what Benezia would of thought of Shepard being Liara's bondmate?
*snip*

Benezia's thoughts on EW Shepard? She would still be in shock that Liara liked anything outside of an asari and that she was developing an attachment so strong at such a young age. But that would be in my Shep/Liara world.

As to customs ... I have always been fascinated by other customs so I'm currently working on funeral and wedding customs for down the road in my fic. I've semi-touched on the birthing process but that was just a quick snap.

Asking a parent permission to marry their child in today's time is something you simply do out of respect. My brothers all asked their future father-in-laws for their wives' hands and I find that if I did have a child that would be a really sweet bonus if my child's boyfriend did that. It shows a higher degree of thoughtfulness and respect then the average bear. After all, unless you are not into families or did not grow up in a close one you really do marry more than that person ... You marry into their family. My oldest niece who just got married had her future husband ask my brother ... it won many points with the family. She only told me and her mother that she had made him do it before she would say yes. We girls have secrets.  
I always feel sorry for the suckers that marry into mine.

[lillitheris]

PMC65 wrote...
sion to marry their child in today's time is something you simply do out of respect. My brothers all asked their future father-in-laws for their wives' hands and I find that if I did have a child that would be a really sweet bonus if my child's boyfriend did that. It shows a higher degree of thoughtfulness and respect then the average bear.

Honestly, I think it mostly shows that they watch way too much TV and/or crappy movies

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My views on asari weddings will have to wait…

[Ecrulis]

Honestly in todays day and age i see the asking permission to marry as a sign of respect to the family and less of literally asking permission. I've already went to my GFs parents as I plan on proposing next month and their response wasa laugh and asking if even needed to ask. Her parents are awesome

[Akernis]

Theodoro wrote...

Speaking of weddings, how do you guys feel the asari equivalent of that would be? Would they need such a ceremony to reaffirm their love? If so, how do you picture it happening - an event among friends and family like a wedding, or something more personal?

Well we know that they have a ceromoni called a Bond Ceremoni though I would assume that it is an less extravagant affair than a human wedding, and though I think there are other people present I belive that is is only those quite close the bondmates and not just anyone who knows them.

Also since asari prefers to mate outside their own species the way the ceremoni is conducted would likely be rather flexible to allow customs from other races to be integrated seamlessly.

I don't think there are any oaths or similar sworn but rather something like declaration between the bondmates that they are now together, nor do I think that there is anyone official preciding over the ceremoni like a priest do at a christian wedding.

In general I think that a bonding ceremoni is a more relaxed occation and I don't think that it is done to "make it official" as much as it is there to celebrate what the pair has already become. The way Liara says "...or their bondmates" to Shepard at the farewell scene made it seem to me that the two of them were already "officially" bondmates more along what we might call a couple than "just" lovers.

So I would say that Bond Ceremoni celebrates the union between the two soul-partners that has already found toghether. I also do not think that a bond ceremoni would be required to make the couple legal, so to speak.  

This of course is all speculation but that is one of the reasons we are here

[EsterCloat]

MrStoob wrote...

The're pretty social people, so they'd probably want a ceremony or party or celebration of some kind. Being a spiritual people there'd probably be lots of symbolism. I suppose the point of marriage in any culture is as much to announce to all that you are becoming exclusive to each other, so 'witnesses' (friends/family) would probably attend. Due to the asari 'melding' process, there may well be a part of the ceremony where the couple 'join', though not necessarily in the middle of proceedings.

On the other hand, due to the pure blood taboo, they may not have their own ceremonies at all and just go with their bond mate's culture.

While I doubt they are entirely without their own ceremonies the bolded part is an interesting point. I would think as a species that encourage unions outside of their species, they would be quite receptive to following the ceremonies of different cultures in regards to marriage or their equivalent. I think they would follow their own ceremonies but also go along with their bondmate's as a sign of unity.

[Jebel Krong]

Tyranniac wrote...

Jebel Krong wrote...

she says it anyway - on earth. So, you don't miss much at all (and frankly i could do without "blue babies" talk anyway).

 

She does? (Also, you're heartless.)

lol hardly - i just don't define relationships by children. and yes she says it just after the "eternity gift" flash on earth.

I liked Liara by ME3 precisely because she isn't the same person she was (particularly) in me1 - she's matured, knows the truer nature of the universe and has a harder edge (still underlined by her good nature and optimism) - shep and liara have grown up together and finally, for my more renegade shep, are the perfect match.

[Jebel Krong]

TMA LIVE wrote...

nice, very stylised.

[TMA LIVE]

Lizardviking wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Your handiwork?

Artist http://bountydbz.deviantart.com/

[MidnightRaith]

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"Wha? What is the purpose? Why would you even...?" 

[TrulyInnovative]

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[Arcataye]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Like if Bioware straight up asked them "Okay, we can either remove some of Liara's scenes from the game, or add scenes with your LI" they would choose to remove Liara's scenes.

Yeah, they would... it's kind of sad to be honest.

CrimsonN7 wrote...

...but personally for my Shep I would prefer to go down the Asari route, just out of curiosity and I think it would mean more to Liara then to my Shep, it's more her day for my Shep:D

I like to think that they would go half and half but the other way around, like Shepard would wear some traditional asari bonding ceremony dress (or whatever it might be) and Liara would wear human wedding dress:

Modifié par Arcataye, 25 mai 2012 - 07:10 .

[MidnightRaith]

TrulyInnovative wrote...

There are ads at fanfiction.net?

 Yeah, my filter went through its 24 hour mark, or whenever it expires. Apparently, you see some amusing adds if you keep it off though.

I still think it would fit them best if they mixed their cultures together. I'd also imagine that the asari are used to doing that anyway, considering their penchant for compromise and such. They probably have a very loose outline for a cerimony so that whichever alien the asari was getting bonded to could fit their own traditions into it. That way, it could be about the both of them, rather than just Liara.

[CrimsonN7]

PMC65 wrote...

Asking a parent permission to marry their child in today's time is something you simply do out of respect. My brothers all asked their future father-in-laws for their wives' hands and I find that if I did have a child that would be a really sweet bonus if my child's boyfriend did that. It shows a higher degree of thoughtfulness and respect then the average bear. After all, unless you are not into families or did not grow up in a close one you really do marry more than that person ... You marry into their family. 

I agree completly with this, I come from a big Irish family and this would be the norm for us too. Also PMC65 just wanna say I love your work and your interpretation of Liara's life before Shepard and the Normandy was a great read, ok I'll stop gushing now:P

Now in regards to an Asari bonding ceremony, I think it would be a very private affair only close family and friends attending. I would like to think it would be a very spirtual exchange perhaps taking place in a location of important significance for the couple. Perhaps the couple would exchange gifts, exchange vows of sorts or would meld briefly and exchange memories. I would like someone there to look over proceedings like a high priestess or a Matriarch from the family, just to give Shep some direction 

Maybe something similar  to a Native American wedding ceremony for it's spitual element, and there is a another ritual that takes place in an Indian wedding that could work for an Asari ceremony but it has to be tweaked alittle, maybe instead of a blanket they recieve Asari bonding robes but below is the Native American blanket ceremony,

Both the bride and the groom are given a blue blanket, which represents all of the sorrows and hardships in their past lives. They are wrapped in these blankets at the beginning of the ceremony. After the blessing of the union, the blue blankets are removed, and the couple is wrapped in one white blanket together, which they might wear for the remainder of the ceremony.

I will probably get some stick for this but Native American history and culture is a real passion of mine so don't flame me too hard if you hate that idea:D 

[Tyranniac]

CrimsonN7 wrote...

Maybe something similar  to a Native American wedding ceremony for it's spitual element, and there is a another ritual that takes place in an Indian wedding that could work for an Asari ceremony but it has to be tweaked alittle, maybe instead of a blanket they recieve Asari bonding robes but below is the Native American blanket ceremony,

I'm sorry but... generalizing like this seems odd. I can't imagine that the majority of all tribes would use the same cermony. I could be wrong of course, it's not something I know much about.

[lillitheris]

MidnightRaith wrote...

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"Wha? What is the purpose? Why would you even...?" 

Beardos are awesome.

Art request: Liara wearing a Beardo!

[Makrys]

Ecrulis wrote...

Honestly in todays day and age i see the asking permission to marry as a sign of respect to the family and less of literally asking permission. I've already went to my GFs parents as I plan on proposing next month and their response wasa laugh and asking if even needed to ask. Her parents are awesome

Congrats, man! 

And on the topic of Asari weddings, it is my opinion that it would be much more personal than a human wedding. The typical wedding in our culture is very traditional and methodical. I would imagine an Asari wedding/or 'ceremony' to be very spiritual, symbolic, but also extremely personal. Not entirely different from a human type in regards to the spiritual symbolism (obviously for a completely different religion though), but I just imagine that the ceremony itself would be be much more about the two bondmates than about the actual event.

In other words, I sort of imagine both bondmates standing in front of a crowd alone. There would be no 'priest' or someone to announce them, they would simply announce themselves. They would recite some vows, or poems which indicated their love for one another, and then maybe share a brief melding in front of the crowd to signify their joining, and then share some sort of prayer or song in honor of the Asari religion/goddess. Then they could stand and present themselves as one. As far as a celebration afterwards, I'm not sure how that would be, to be honest. 

I don't know really. Its quite hard to imagine what a wedding would be like for an alien culture. Even though the Asari are not all that different from Humans in some regards, I suspect they would handle the whole concept in possibly a somewhat similar yet entirely unique way. And I probably did not capture that idea very well with my description, but I really don't know what it would be like. The main thing; I just think it would be a lot more elegant and personal.

And this is all assuming that they even have weddings. They may do things totally different, and may or may not even publicly announce it to begin with. All I know is that joining with another person is an extremely personal choice and action, and from my point of view, the way Liara described it in ME1, the relationship seemed pretty private. In the sense that maybe they didn't have these extravagant celebrations, but instead celebrated their unity on their own, together. That's sort of how I took it anyway.

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[MidnightRaith]

lillitheris wrote...

MidnightRaith wrote...

*Signs into fanfic.net. Sees and add for Beardo, the Original Bearded Beanie.*

"Wha? What is the purpose? Why would you even...?" 

Beardos are awesome.

Art request: Liara wearing a Beardo!

That would be very funny.....

Also, why the heck am I spelling ad with two "d"s? I know how to spell ad... how silly of me....

[Arcataye]

Makrys wrote...

In other words, I sort of imagine both bondmates standing in front of a crowd alone. There would be no 'priest' or someone to announce them, they would simply announce themselves. They would recite some vows, or poems which indicated their love for one another, and then maybe share a brief melding in front of the crowd to signify their joining, and then share some sort of prayer or song in honor of the Asari religion/goddess. Then they could stand and present themselves as one.

I could see that happening. Some biotic flaring during the meld. Oh and the meld would not be sexual, if anyone happens to think that way. It would just be the deepest possible way to confirm their love and commitment, to be united as "one".
I guess they wouldn't need many words, if any. They wouldn't need to promise their commitment out loud to the crowd of close friends.

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[Makrys]

Arcataye wrote...

Makrys wrote...

In other words, I sort of imagine both bondmates standing in front of a crowd alone. There would be no 'priest' or someone to announce them, they would simply announce themselves. They would recite some vows, or poems which indicated their love for one another, and then maybe share a brief melding in front of the crowd to signify their joining, and then share some sort of prayer or song in honor of the Asari religion/goddess. Then they could stand and present themselves as one.

I could see that happening. Some biotic flaring during the meld. Oh and the meld would not be sexual, if anyone happens to think that way. It would just be the deepest possible way to confirm their love and commitment, to be united as "one".
I guess they wouldn't need many words, if any. They wouldn't need to promise their commitment out loud to the crowd of close friends.

No the meld would not be sexual. At least, I highly doubt it. 

And its quite logical to think few words would be spoken, actually. They could perform a few acts together, a few symbolic events that express their becoming one. And I also think the less words, the more private and personal the ceremony would be. Very intimate.

EDIT: Yaaaay top!

All this talk about weddings has Liara day dreaming. 



I just found this, and love it. She's so beautiful here. She looks worried, yet hopefully optimistic at the same time. Pretty much her persona throughout ME3. Hold on, Liara! A happy ending with Shep is coming with the EC! 

You hear me Bioware?!

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[Akernis]

Makrys wrote...
I just found this, and love it. She's so beautiful here. She looks worried, yet hopefully optimistic at the same time. Pretty much her persona throughout ME3. Hold on, Liara! A happy ending with Shep is coming with the EC! 

You hear me Bioware?!

I agree with you here, I really like that picture, even despite the headband. I do not however appreciate the artist's describtion, but that is something I imagine my way around .
Liara looks up from her own thoughts as Shepard enters after a long talk with the various officials and needs to relax with his/her feavourite beautiful asari, Liara sees this and begins to smile .