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[Aristobulus500]

I'm not a fan of that headband and all, but I like the attention to detail - it's not just LIARA FLOATING IN SPACE, it actually looks like she's just lounging up against a window, lost in thought. The slight smile she has is a nice touch.

[Makrys]

Akernis wrote...

Makrys wrote...
I just found this, and love it. She's so beautiful here. She looks worried, yet hopefully optimistic at the same time. Pretty much her persona throughout ME3. Hold on, Liara! A happy ending with Shep is coming with the EC! 

You hear me Bioware?!

I agree with you here, I really like that picture, even despite the headband. I do not however appreciate the artist's describtion, but that is something I imagine my way around .
Liara looks up from her own thoughts as Shepard enters after a long talk with the various officials and needs to relax with his/her feavourite beautiful asari, Liara sees this and begins to smile .

Artist's description?

[Makrys]

I actually somewhat like the headpiece (though I have no idea what its purpose is), but in this case the picture would definitely be better without it.

Modifié par Makrys, 25 mai 2012 - 08:50 .

[Makrys]

 Currently listening to the LOTSB soundtrack, and this song brings back some great memories: 

Taking down the Shadow Broker with Liara was one of the most awesome things I've experienced in a game. 

Not to mention the 'consoling' scene afterwards. Loved being able to comfort and hold her. She deserved it. I was so glad Shepard was finally back and there for her when she needed him. Such a sweet moment. 

Modifié par Makrys, 25 mai 2012 - 09:04 .

[Akernis]

Makrys wrote...

Akernis wrote...

Makrys wrote...
I just found this, and love it. She's so beautiful here. She looks worried, yet hopefully optimistic at the same time. Pretty much her persona throughout ME3. Hold on, Liara! A happy ending with Shep is coming with the EC! 

You hear me Bioware?!

I agree with you here, I really like that picture, even despite the headband. I do not however appreciate the artist's describtion, but that is something I imagine my way around .
Liara looks up from her own thoughts as Shepard enters after a long talk with the various officials and needs to relax with his/her feavourite beautiful asari, Liara sees this and begins to smile .

Artist's description?

"Years later after the Shepard's death."

It is not much but i hate the concept of "the Shepard" and even if that was uninentional on the artist's part Liara alone without Shepard makes me sad

frudi wrote...

I must have missed something, because I've seen it mentioned now several times that asari have bonding ceremonies, but I just can't recall where that is ever mentioned. Someone care to help me out?

While I haven't really thought about their bonding/wedding ceremonies before (probably because I hate weddings ), now that I think about it I would actually prefer if they didn't have them. Instead, my idea is that societal recognition of their union would come not by way of some formal ceremony, but simply by how the couple behaves in the company of others (among family, friends, in public...), how they address and talk to each other, touch each other more affectionately, things like that. Other asari would easily be able to pick up on this behaviour, thus realising the couple are bonded.

As for the civil or legal recognition, as we do know that there is some kind of formal recognition of relationships, at least between asari and non-asari, that would just be a simple formality. Since asari are governed by an e-democracy, formally registering the union could even be done electronically. (yeah, very romantic, I know )

If memory serves we hear about it in relation to Samara, in the Shadow broker files if I remember correctly that says she owns a bracelet or something like that from her Bonding Ceremony.

I would also prefer if their was nothing fancy about it the ceremony, if it has to be there then something quiet and intimate primarily between the two of them rather than something extravagant and/or religious stuff.

Modifié par Akernis, 25 mai 2012 - 09:09 .

[Makrys]

Akernis wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Akernis wrote...

Makrys wrote...
I just found this, and love it. She's so beautiful here. She looks worried, yet hopefully optimistic at the same time. Pretty much her persona throughout ME3. Hold on, Liara! A happy ending with Shep is coming with the EC! 

You hear me Bioware?!

I agree with you here, I really like that picture, even despite the headband. I do not however appreciate the artist's describtion, but that is something I imagine my way around .
Liara looks up from her own thoughts as Shepard enters after a long talk with the various officials and needs to relax with his/her feavourite beautiful asari, Liara sees this and begins to smile .

Artist's description?

"Years later after the Shepard's death."

It is not much but i hate the concept of "The Shepard" and Liara alone without Shepard makes me sad

Where did you see this? 

[Aristobulus500]

Makrys wrote...

 Currently listening to the LOTSB soundtrack, and this song brings back some great memories: 

Taking down the Shadow Broker with Liara was one of the most awesome things I've experienced in a game. 

Not to mention the 'consoling' scene afterwards. Loved being able to comfort and hold her. She deserved it. I was so glad Shepard was finally back and there for her when she needed him. Such a sweet moment. 

LotSB really was the best content in the entire trilogy. It's such a shame nothing in ME3 lives up to the standard that set, and that there's nothing at all in ME3 like being able to reconcile with Liara and actually console her and they embrace.

[Makrys]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

 Currently listening to the LOTSB soundtrack, and this song brings back some great memories: 

Taking down the Shadow Broker with Liara was one of the most awesome things I've experienced in a game. 

Not to mention the 'consoling' scene afterwards. Loved being able to comfort and hold her. She deserved it. I was so glad Shepard was finally back and there for her when she needed him. Such a sweet moment. 

LotSB really was the best content in the entire trilogy. It's such a shame nothing in ME3 lives up to the standard that set, and that there's nothing at all in ME3 like being able to reconcile with Liara and actually console her and they embrace.

That's how post-Thessia should have been...

And yes, LOTSB is my favorite mission of the trilogy. Also the best DLC I've ever played for any game. Period.

Modifié par Makrys, 25 mai 2012 - 09:10 .

[Akernis]

Makrys wrote...

Akernis wrote...
"Years later after the Shepard's death."

It is not much but i hate the concept of "The Shepard" and Liara alone without Shepard makes me sad

Where did you see this? 

http://whalec.devian...later-295794667

[Aristobulus500]

Makrys wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

 Currently listening to the LOTSB soundtrack, and this song brings back some great memories: 

Taking down the Shadow Broker with Liara was one of the most awesome things I've experienced in a game. 

Not to mention the 'consoling' scene afterwards. Loved being able to comfort and hold her. She deserved it. I was so glad Shepard was finally back and there for her when she needed him. Such a sweet moment. 

LotSB really was the best content in the entire trilogy. It's such a shame nothing in ME3 lives up to the standard that set, and that there's nothing at all in ME3 like being able to reconcile with Liara and actually console her and they embrace.

That's how post-Thessia should have been...

And yes, LOTSB is my favorite mission of the trilogy. Also the best DLC I've ever played for any game. Period.

Honestly, Thessia itself had the potential to be LotSB 2.0. Not just the post Thessia scene, but the entire place!

I can't believe they squandered it. It's the biggest waste I've seen in ages. I really hope they release a DLC that basically IS LotSB 2.0 and adds on to Thessia and Liara just like they did Illium and Liara in ME2.

[Makrys]

Akernis wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Akernis wrote...
"Years later after the Shepard's death."

It is not much but i hate the concept of "The Shepard" and Liara alone without Shepard makes me sad

Where did you see this? 

http://whalec.devian...later-295794667

Ah. Well, I didn't find it on deviantart so I didn't see that. 

And indeed, that's lame and totally depressing!

Modifié par Makrys, 25 mai 2012 - 09:18 .

[Makrys]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

 Currently listening to the LOTSB soundtrack, and this song brings back some great memories: 

Taking down the Shadow Broker with Liara was one of the most awesome things I've experienced in a game. 

Not to mention the 'consoling' scene afterwards. Loved being able to comfort and hold her. She deserved it. I was so glad Shepard was finally back and there for her when she needed him. Such a sweet moment. 

LotSB really was the best content in the entire trilogy. It's such a shame nothing in ME3 lives up to the standard that set, and that there's nothing at all in ME3 like being able to reconcile with Liara and actually console her and they embrace.

That's how post-Thessia should have been...

And yes, LOTSB is my favorite mission of the trilogy. Also the best DLC I've ever played for any game. Period.

Honestly, Thessia itself had the potential to be LotSB 2.0. Not just the post Thessia scene, but the entire place!

I can't believe they squandered it. It's the biggest waste I've seen in ages. I really hope they release a DLC that basically IS LotSB 2.0 and adds on to Thessia and Liara just like they did Illium and Liara in ME2.

Agreed. I was just referring to the post-LOTSB scene where Shep comforts her. Where the hell was that post-Thessia?! But you and I have already been there a few pages ago... still... 

And yeah... Thessia was a huge waste. I enjoyed it, but it could have been SO much more. Pretty sure Walters wrote it as well... and... it was obviously rushed. Or just TERRIBLY written. *sigh* 

Modifié par Makrys, 25 mai 2012 - 09:18 .

[fluffywalrus]

frudi wrote...

I must have missed something, because I've seen it mentioned now several times that asari have bonding ceremonies, but I just can't recall where that is ever mentioned. Someone care to help me out?

While I haven't really thought about their bonding/wedding ceremonies before (probably because I hate weddings ), now that I think about it I would actually prefer if they didn't have them. Instead, my idea is that societal recognition of their union would come not by way of some formal ceremony, but simply by how the couple behaves in the company of others (among family, friends, in public...), how they address and talk to each other, touch each other more affectionately, things like that. Other asari would easily be able to pick up on this behaviour, thus realising the couple are bonded.

As for the civil or legal recognition, as we do know that there is some kind of formal recognition of relationships, at least between asari and non-asari, that would just be a simple formality. Since asari are governed by an e-democracy, formally registering the union could even be done electronically. (yeah, very romantic, I know )

Link to Samara's Dossier

It's in the inventory. Ceremonial Bonding gown, ceremonial bonding bracelet.

[Makrys]

Talking about missions like that gets me a little depressed because it just reminds me how rushed the game was, and what could have been... 

Modifié par Makrys, 25 mai 2012 - 09:20 .

[Akernis]

Makrys wrote...

Akernis wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Akernis wrote...
"Years later after the Shepard's death."

It is not much but i hate the concept of "The Shepard" and Liara alone without Shepard makes me sad

Where did you see this? 

http://whalec.devian...later-295794667

Ah. Well, that's not where I found it so I didn't see that. 

And indeed, that's lame and totally depressing!

Yeah

Find my happy place...


Ahh much better .

Modifié par Akernis, 25 mai 2012 - 09:22 .

[CrimsonN7]

Tyranniac wrote...

CrimsonN7 wrote...

Maybe something similar  to a Native American wedding ceremony for it's spitual element, and there is a another ritual that takes place in an Indian wedding that could work for an Asari ceremony but it has to be tweaked alittle, maybe instead of a blanket they recieve Asari bonding robes but below is the Native American blanket ceremony,

I'm sorry but... generalizing like this seems odd. I can't imagine that the majority of all tribes would use the same cermony. I could be wrong of course, it's not something I know much about.

It's just a concept, and of course various tribes such as the Sioux, Cheyenne, Blackfoot, Comanche, Apache, Kiowa, Seminoles, Utes and Shoshone to name a few were as diverse from one another in their language and culture as lets say different  countries in Europe are from one another. But many tribes did share similar wedding traditions due to the fact that Native American tribes shared the belief of spiritual worship and trying to appease the spirits associated with nature, animals and the landscape and how every spirit is interconnected, one can't be without the other. Native American religion if you could call it that is kinda hard to define though.

Like I said it's just a concept, I'm just drawing some inspiration from a more spiritual culture that could work some way with the Asari spiritual side as I would see them believing in a similar idealogy of how every spirit in the universe is inter- connected. Another thing I noticed when comparing the two is in how much the Asari value and greatly respect their Matriarch's, this is very similar to Native American's who relied on the wisdom and council of the elders of their tribes. Don't worry I'm not going to assume the Asari are the Native Americans of the galaxy, just spotted some similarities is all:D

[Aristobulus500]

It just makes me really frustrated and angry, because there's just so much wasted potential. ME3 should've been so much more - LotSB should've just been a taste of what ME3 had to offer, not the best content in the series.

I guess this is a reason I'm so much more into fanworks - like Neeh's material, Rae's fanfics, other fanfics, than I ever was with the series before, because after ME2 and LotSB I was satisfied. I wanted more, sure, but I wasn't angry and frustrated - it was a "that was really cool and I'd like to see more of this setting". There weren't so many missed opportunities and things just done incredibly poorly, and there was so much hope and build up for ME3, that it was easy to let my mind run about all the incredible things that could happen in ME3.

Especially with Liara/Shep - the way LotSB ends there's so much potential there, that you come off that and you're like "holy **** Liara is the ****ing Shadow Broker and has so much power and an entire base and Shep/Liara finally got back together and things aren't so dark!" and you're just so pumped to where it all leads.

And...ME3 does nothing with all that build up. Same for Thessia, especially. The Asari get so much build up throughout the entire trilogy and then they don't even get an arc to their own or even a decision for Shepard to make! Or even anything that ties into a Shep/Liara romance!

Arrgggh!

edit - honestly I feel much the same kind of frustration, in regards to Liara now, as I did after ME2 and before LotSB came out. I was so pissed and frustrated at her poor showing and how awful her encounter in Illium was. LotSB fixed so much and oh my god we desperately need another LotSB for ME3.

Modifié par Aristobulus500, 25 mai 2012 - 09:28 .

[TrulyInnovative]

The LotSB soundtrack is really good, I have to say. I particularly like the combat tracks (Agent Combat, Vasic Combat, Final Combat). Good job by Christopher Lennertz there.

[Makrys]

TrulyInnovative wrote...

The LotSB soundtrack is really good, I have to say. I particularly like the combat tracks (Agent Combat, Vasic Combat, Final Combat). Good job by Christopher Lennertz there.

Yeah definitely. I remember fightint the agents on Illium and the 'Agent Combat' track was playing, and I thought "Wow, this sounds very Zimmerish." Epic track. Love the OST. Was glad Chris came back for ME3.

Modifié par Makrys, 25 mai 2012 - 09:35 .

[Tyranniac]

CrimsonN7 wrote...


It's just a concept, and of course various tribes such as the Sioux, Cheyenne, Blackfoot, Comanche, Apache, Kiowa, Seminoles, Utes and Shoshone to name a few were as diverse from one another in their language and culture as lets say different  countries in Europe are from one another. But many tribes did share similar wedding traditions due to the fact that Native American tribes shared the belief of spiritual worship and trying to appease the spirits associated with nature, animals and the landscape and how every spirit is interconnected, one can't be without the other. Native American religion if you could call it that is kinda hard to define though.

Like I said it's just a concept, I'm just drawing some inspiration from a more spiritual culture that could work some way with the Asari spiritual side as I would see them believing in a similar idealogy of how every spirit in the universe is inter- connected. Another thing I noticed when comparing the two is in how much the Asari value and greatly respect their Matriarch's, this is very similar to Native American's who relied on the wisdom and council of the elders of their tribes. Don't worry I'm not going to assume the Asari are the Native Americans of the galaxy, just spotted some similarities is all:D

Alright, fair enough. I see your points. 

[TrulyInnovative]

Makrys wrote...

Yeah definitely. I remember fightint the agents on Illium and the 'Agent Combat' track was playing, and I thought "Wow, this sounds very Zimmerish." Epic track, and I love the OST. Was glad Chris came back for ME3.

Yeah, his tracks "The Cerberus Plot" and "The View of Palaven" are among my very favorites in ME3. I think the soundtracks have been really good throughout the ME series and the voice acting has been a highlight of the series as well.

Modifié par TrulyInnovative, 25 mai 2012 - 09:41 .

[Makrys]

TrulyInnovative wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Yeah definitely. I remember fightint the agents on Illium and the 'Agent Combat' track was playing, and I thought "Wow, this sounds very Zimmerish." Epic track, and I love the OST. Was glad Chris came back for ME3.

Yeah, his track "The Cerberus Plot" is among my very favorites in ME3. I think the soundtracks have been really good throughout the ME series and the voice acting has been a highlight of the series as well.

Indeed. Liara without Ali Hillis is not Liara. Her voice is a big part of what makes her special. It adds so much to her character, whether its shyness, a subtle but confident nature, a quiet reflective personality, and even lends much to how attractive she is. Liara's voice is wonderful. Too bad I can't find a woman with the same attributes. 

EDIT: Top again?! It's my lucky day!


Love love love love 

Modifié par Makrys, 25 mai 2012 - 09:57 .

[lillitheris]

fluffywalrus wrote...
Link to Samara's Dossier

It's in the inventory. Ceremonial Bonding gown, ceremonial bonding bracelet.

Yep, this is what I’m going with – although I’m maybe emphasizing differently: ceremonial bonding gown etc.

…

Chapter 14 has many Liaras!