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[Tyranniac]

Han Shot First wrote...


Some of the lore of the Asari seems to be based on ancient Greece, particularly the way the way that Thessia (and presumably, their colony worlds) are organized into city-states. The three stages of an Asari woman's life also seem to be based on the three stages of an woman's life, as the ancient Greeks saw it. With that in mind if the writers ever expanded upon the marriage customs of the Asari, perhaps their customs should be loosely based on ancient Greece as well?

In ancient Greece brides would be ritually bathed & dressed by their maids, and typically wore brightly colored veils of yellow or red rather than white. There would be a wedding feast & dancing involving both families, after which the bride would be led at night in a procession to the husband's home, accompanied by torch bearers, musicians, minstrels & singers. The bride would carry ivy, which symbolized eternal love. At the home there would be a brief ceremony, where IIRC they were considered married when she crossed the threshold of the door.

I don't really think this would work very well because this is heavily based on gender roles. Good point about customs being inspired by Ancient Greece though.

[Theodoro]

MidnightRaith wrote...
Don't get me wrong, ME does nearly everything better than KotOR. However, I can be very sentimental. While ME is the better product and the better universe, I owe many things to KotOR. Without it, I would not be a fan of BW, I would not even like RPGs. I was relatively young at the time of KotOR, ten or so. A bit too young to really appreciate what the RPG genre is supposed to do. However, KotOR's story was so good, that I literally spent years slowly understanding what the game was meant to do and how it was supposed to be played. If it were a different game, I probably would have dropped the genre and stuck to platformers and shooters. Took me three years before I finally beat it and then I played and beat it at least once a year ever since. I just love it that much.  ME owes my love to KotOR.

I remember when I got hooked up on KotOR for the first time... A friend showed it to me, who had already played through it and we were on his computer, and I will never forgive him for spoiling the game for me when he said something along the lines of 'Oh, by the way, your character is actually the bad guy Revan'. So yeah - that kind of ruined the twist for me. Despite that, KotOR had a huge impact on me and until the discovery of Mass Effect it was my favorite game. I was not as pleased with KotOR 2, but I liked the darker setting of it. Still hate the fact that we might never get KotOR 3 and instead we were given TOR. We deserve to see what happened to Revan and the Exile.

Sorry for the off-topic!

Modifié par Theodoro, 26 mai 2012 - 09:23 .

[TrulyInnovative]

To me the strengths of the ME trilogy are immersion, characterization, and gameplay. There's a lot of attention paid to the details of the world, the graphics are good, and all the lines are voice acted, which all lead to greater-than-normal immersion to me. This was especially true in ME3, where little things like your squadmates moving around Normandy and Citadel and the Citadel changing after the Cerberus attack added to the immersion. Characterization has always been a strength of Bioware, and they did a really great job in the ME trilogy. Also, I found the gameplay a lot of fun in all the games and that's a big reason why I've replayed them as often as I have. I don't usually play a lot of shooters so I'm not burned out on them and I like using my powers and different types of characters when killing the opponents.

When I think about my favorite games, I think only Planescape:Torment is clearly better for me, maybe Fallout 1 and 2. P:T is obviously older, doesn't perhaps quite have the same kind of immersion as ME, and has relatively simple combat gameplay. However, it has a great story (which I feel is not a strength of the ME trilogy), fantastic characters, and a great dialogue system. It also doesn't hurt that it has the best ending I've seen in a computer game and a great soundtrack by Mark Morgan (which is another strength of ME's).

Modifié par TrulyInnovative, 26 mai 2012 - 09:33 .

[MidnightRaith]

Theodoro wrote...

I remember when I got hooked up on KotOR for the first time... A friend showed it to me, who had already played through it and we were on his computer, and I will never forgive him for spoiling the game for me when he said something along the lines of 'Oh, by the way, your character is actually the bad guy Revan'. So yeah - that kind of ruined the twist for me. Despite that, KotOR had a huge impact on me and until the discovery of Mass Effect it was my favorite game. I was not as pleased with KotOR 2, but I liked the darker setting of it. Still hate the fact that we might never get KotOR 3 and instead we were given TOR. We deserve to see what happened to Revan and the Exile.

Sorry for the off-topic!

I was so upset when I killed Bastila on the first time I beat the game. I had to beat it again just to save her and have done so ever since. KotOR 2 is a very special game in regards to how I used to view it. On one hand, it is very fun. By the time I got it, I did understand how to actually play the game and thus, appreciated the sheer amounts of improvments it made to the gameplay. On the other hand, it's missing massive chunks of story and suffers atrocious bugs. However, then I discovered TSLCRM. People actually debugged and very nearly completed the actual game. Turns out, all that missing crap is on the disc, someone just needed to dig it out. Now, I'm excitedly playing through it, wondering what I'll get by the end....

Yeah, off topic, but hey, it's KotOR. It's great enough to be talked about wherever. 

[kyg_20X6]

Was just playing some ME3 MP, listening to some tunes, and a couple tracks that came over shuffle really resonated with me.

UNKLE - 'Lonely Soul'

Resonated with my Mindoir-surviving FemShep. Since then, even after Elysium, she's pretty much cut herself off emotionally from everyone else and apathetically does her job (although she does it better than anyone else). Mainly it's just a coping mechanism for what she's been through and she's hesitant to let anyone get close anymore. Just lose herself in her duty.

There's no secret to living
Just keep on walking
There's no secret to dying
Just keep on flying

I'm gonna die in a place that don't know my name
I'm gonna die in a space that don't hold my fame

Almost moves seemlessly into...

Massive Attack - 'Teardrop'

Liara's given her something to fight for. A stake. She's taken away the barriers, the pain. Shepard cares, not just for Liara, but her friends, her allies... Reapers aren't taking it away. Not that she finally has something to live for, not just die for...

Love, love is a verb
Love is a doing word
Fearless on my breath
Gentle impulsion
Shakes me, makes me lighter
Fearless on my breath

Teardrop on the fire
Fearless on my breath

Modifié par kyg_20X6, 26 mai 2012 - 09:35 .

[Theodoro]

MidnightRaith wrote...
I was so upset when I killed Bastila on the first time I beat the game. I had to beat it again just to save her and have done so ever since. KotOR 2 is a very special game in regards to how I used to view it. On one hand, it is very fun. By the time I got it, I did understand how to actually play the game and thus, appreciated the sheer amounts of improvments it made to the gameplay. On the other hand, it's missing massive chunks of story and suffers atrocious bugs. However, then I discovered TSLCRM. People actually debugged and very nearly completed the actual game. Turns out, all that missing crap is on the disc, someone just needed to dig it out. Now, I'm excitedly playing through it, wondering what I'll get by the end....

Yeah, off topic, but hey, it's KotOR. It's great enough to be talked about wherever. 

I've known for quite some time for one Team Gizka Restoration Project - not sure it's the same as the one you mentioned, but I wonder whether it was ever completed. Be sure to tell me whether the mod is decent, since there is certainly a massive chunk of content cut from KotOR 2 which, upon restoration, might just redeem the game for me. Other than that, I very liked the consistency of the setting - the much darker, more dangerous and ominous feel to the game, and Kreia was an incredible and complex character. And I also love HK-47 - I've yet to see someone who doesn't! So yeah - I might just be doing a KotOR playthrough soon!

Anyway, to add something that is Mass Effect and Liara related, I'd say that it's the depth of all the different species, their cultures and traditions, as well as the characters, that really make it stand out for me from every single other fictional setting in a game, movie or book. It's just so fleshed out that it is both incredibly alien yet believable and likeable.

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Massive Attack - 'Teardrop'

Liara's given her something to fight for. A stake. She's taken away the barriers, the pain. Shepard cares, not just for Liara, but her friends, her allies... Reapers aren't taking it away. Not that she finally has something to live for, not just die for...

Great choice! I think that is actually really fitting for Shepard and Liara. Love the videos, too. I'm a fan of Massive Attack and that reminds me of another song of theirs that is undoubtedly one of my favorites. I guess it's applicable to Shepard and Jack, though.

Massive Attack - Protection

Modifié par Theodoro, 26 mai 2012 - 09:50 .

[MidnightRaith]

Theodoro wrote...

I've known for quite some time for one Team Gizka Restoration Project - not sure it's the same as the one you mentioned, but I wonder whether it was ever completed. Be sure to tell me whether the mod is decent, since there is certainly a massive chunk of content cut from KotOR 2 which, upon restoration, might just redeem the game for me. Other than that, I very liked the consistency of the setting - the much darker, more dangerous and ominous feel to the game, and Kreia was an incredible and complex character. And I also love HK-47 - I've yet to see someone who doesn't! So yeah - I might just be doing a KotOR playthrough soon!

Anyway, to add something that is Mass Effect and Liara related, I'd say that it's the depth of all the different species, their cultures and traditions, as well as the characters, that really make it stand out for me from every single other fictional setting in a game, movie or book. It's just so fleshed out that it is both incredibly alien yet believable and likeable.

TSLRCM has been finished and is very easy to download. I youtubed it and it seemed very impressive from what I saw. I'll be sure to tell you if it's as good as people claim when I get around to beating it though.

As for Liara, I believe she is one of the most complicated characters in ME. Miranda and Jack seem to be the only real competition she has for that title. Those three have the longest characterizations I've thought up....

Modifié par MidnightRaith, 26 mai 2012 - 09:53 .

[lillitheris]

<3<3<3 Some Massive Attack.

However, aside from the fantastic ME3 soundtrack, there’s only one song for me for ME3:

Portishead: Roads. This live version is incredibly beautiful, raw emotion. every single time.

(As a bonus I have no problems thinking it’s Beth Shepard singing…:crying:<3)

Modifié par lillitheris, 26 mai 2012 - 10:01 .

[Theodoro]

MidnightRaith wrote...
TSLRCM has been finished and is very easy to download. I youtubed it and it seemed very impressive from what I saw. I'll be sure to tell you if it's as good as people claim when I get around to beating it though.

Thanks so much for that! I'll be sure to download and install it before starting KotOR 2 soon.

[MidnightRaith]

Theodoro wrote...

Thanks so much for that! I'll be sure to download and install it before starting KotOR 2 soon.

No problem.  KotOR 2 didn't deserve what it got. Fans of the series really need to know that efforts have been made to remedy its problems.

[kyg_20X6]

lillitheris wrote...

<3<3<3 Some Massive Attack.

However, aside from the fantastic ME3 soundtrack, there’s only one song for me for ME3:

Portishead: Roads. This live version is incredibly beautiful, raw emotion. every single time.

(As a bonus I have no problems thinking it’s Beth Shepard singing…:crying:<3)

Interesting you mentioned Portishead, I (only just!) left out this one:

Portishead - 'Only You' (maybe for a post-SM romance scene?)

We suffer everyday, what is it for
These crimes of illusion, are fooling us all
And now I am weary and I feel like I do

It's only you, who can tell me apart
And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

The size of our fight, it's just a dream
We've crushed everything I can see, in this morning selfishly
How we've failed and I feel like I do

It's only you, who can tell me apart
And it's only you, who can turn my wooden heart

Modifié par kyg_20X6, 26 mai 2012 - 10:07 .

[Erenbe]

Lizardviking wrote...

Erenbe wrote...
I even love "An end once and for all". The corresponding scene in the game....bleh! Don't care to think about it too much but the music track is just fantastic.

Perhaps the track can be redeemed for you if you hear the cut version of Anderson's last words?

Hmmm, if I remember correctly the track that is played during the Anderson scene is "I'm proud of you"? "An end once and for all" is the track that is played when Shep is wobbling towards one of the tubes and has the flashbacks of all the important characters (including lovely Liara of course). Or am I confusing things now? 



Regarding the ending negativity....well, I see what happens on the forums as group therapy. So many people came to the forums after the ending desaster to speak about it and get a feeling of what other people think about it. It feels good to know that you're not the only one that is highly dissapointed because of what happened. And I suppose it will continue for quite a while. People are not over it....and most likely will never get over it unless the EC manages to deliver. I don't want to think about what will happen if it doesn't. I suppose at some point after the inital anger defuses people will just stop caring....and that would be a sad thing.


Regarding the combo Walters/Hudson....that's a red flag for me by now. I am refusing to buy anything those two had their grubby fingers on. If they are ever listed in another project...well yeah...that pretty much will predefine my actions -> not buying it! <_<


Now I have to go back to work  So don't run away with the thread again kay?

[Arcataye]

Aristobulus500 wrote...

Also that new Liara/Shep picture at the top...that artist can seriously do everything well except Liara's face. It's really strange.

Yeah, it's sad really. Her work would be among the very top of ME fan art.

Akernis wrote...

I don't think she would give it to Feron (or anyone else for that matter).
Personally I think she would either destroyed the network in its entirety (not kill the agents but reassign, etc) or that she would stay the Shadow Broker but in a wastly diminissed role, likely cutting the network drastically down the size.

Aristobulus500 wrote...

I mean, I don't think Liara would give up access to the Shadow Broker role entirely, as it is too enticing, offers too much to learn - but holding it full time would prevent her from living a life with Shepard, and I think she'd rather get away from it all, at least for a time, after all the stress of the war. She says herself, throughout the series, that she does want to just live a peaceful life with Shepard, multiple times. Just get away from it all.

Yeah, I think she would definitely cut down the time spent on it, or destroy the network.
The Shadow Broker's position is too powerful ("I could start a war!") for her to give it away. Would she be able to trust Feron with such power? I think that she would reason that it's the best for everyone to destroy the Shadow Broker network instead of giving it to anyone. Sure there would be others who would begin a new network, but instead of having everything ready, it would take hard work to start from nothing.

By the way, was it ever said who was the original SB before the yagh? I'd say it was an asari.

Modifié par Arcataye, 26 mai 2012 - 10:34 .

[Tyranniac]

Arcataye wrote...


Yeah, I think she would definitely cut down the time spent on it, or destroy the network.
The Shadow Broker's position is too powerful ("I could start a war!") for her to give it away. Would she be able to trust Feron with such power? I think that she would reason that it's the best for everyone to destroy the Shadow Broker network instead of giving it to anyone. Sure there would be others who would begin a new network, but instead of having everything ready, it would take hard work to start from nothing.

By the way, was it ever said who was the original SB before the yagh? I'd say it was an asari.

I agree, think she'd destroy what's left of the SB network. And asari does seem to make sense for the last one considering how long it must have taken to build the network. Then again there might have been several Shadow Brokers before the yagh. Also, yay, you're Harbinger again!

[MidnightRaith]

Arcataye wrote...

Yeah, I think she would definitely cut down the time spent on it, or destroy the network.
The Shadow Broker's position is too powerful ("I could start a war!") for her to give it away. Would she be able to trust Feron with such power? I think that she would reason that it's the best for everyone to destroy the Shadow Broker network instead of giving it to anyone. Sure there would be others who would begin a new network, but instead of having everything ready, it would take hard work to start from nothing.

Ah, I forgot about this topic, I had wanted to touch on it....

Am I the only one that is uncomfortable with giving the reins to Feron? Yeah, Liara allows him to work for her, but how much does he actually do in comparison to her? He kinda proved in the comic that he is capable of changing is mind on important issues rather quickly. Sure, I like Feron, but I don't trust that he has the necessary morality to be a Shadow Broker that would act like Liara. I don't even think anyone has the necessary morality to SB like Liara starts out for any significant amount of time, Liara included.

If she was going to step away from it, she'd either cut down on it, let it sit there or destroy it. Dread Pirate Roberts can't be easily replaced unless someone kills him, or he molds someone in the role, after all. Liara probably wouldn't be comfortable letting just anybody adopt the role. I'm leaning on her destroying it, once it's all over....

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Erenbe wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Erenbe wrote...
I even love "An end once and for all". The corresponding scene in the game....bleh! Don't care to think about it too much but the music track is just fantastic.

Perhaps the track can be redeemed for you if you hear the cut version of Anderson's last words?

Hmmm, if I remember correctly the track that is played during the Anderson scene is "I'm proud of you"? "An end once and for all" is the track that is played when Shep is wobbling towards one of the tubes and has the flashbacks of all the important characters (including lovely Liara of course). Or am I confusing things now?

You are right but as mentioned, the cut version of Anderson's dialog has "An end once and for all" playing.

Seriously just listen to it. It baffles me Bioware cut this version.

[Erenbe]

Lizardviking wrote...

Erenbe wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Erenbe wrote...
I even love "An end once and for all". The corresponding scene in the game....bleh! Don't care to think about it too much but the music track is just fantastic.

Perhaps the track can be redeemed for you if you hear the cut version of Anderson's last words?

Hmmm, if I remember correctly the track that is played during the Anderson scene is "I'm proud of you"? "An end once and for all" is the track that is played when Shep is wobbling towards one of the tubes and has the flashbacks of all the important characters (including lovely Liara of course). Or am I confusing things now?

You are right but as mentioned, the cut version of Anderson's dialog has "An end once and for all" playing.

Seriously just listen to it. It baffles me Bioware cut this version.

Ah, no work for me so far....fickle scientific machines are fickle. 

Anyway...i do know that extended cut of the scene. and the video is great...the song fits like a glove even.  for me the game ends with that scene when the windows are opening up and Anderson and Shep have a great view of Earth. 

"An end once and for all" is just a great song....Clint Mansell did an amazing job with that one. <3

[lillitheris]

MidnightRaith wrote...

Am I the only one that is uncomfortable with giving the reins to Feron? Yeah, Liara allows him to work for her, but how much does he actually do in comparison to her? He kinda proved in the comic that he is capable of changing is mind on important issues rather quickly. Sure, I like Feron, but I don't trust that he has the necessary morality to be a Shadow Broker that would act like Liara. I don't even think anyone has the necessary morality to SB like Liara starts out for any significant amount of time, Liara included.

No, I’m not comfortable with that either…although to be fair, the previous brokers didn’t start wars either, they just maybe ordered a few assassinations and such (yes yes, I know) and got filthy rich.

Feron’s distinctly a right-hand-man, though. He’s by no means a dumb grunt, but the vibe I get (comics + game) is that he’s better off with someone else in the lead. Maybe we just never saw him rise to his potential, I dunno.

Here, however, that ugly beast rears its head again. I think Feron’s happy with Liara as the SB and him helping, but what if Liara destroyed the whole network? That leaves Feron out there, and potentially highly pissed off about it. And he has a lot of info. Of course he might be fine with banking a few hundred billion credits and just starting again, or maybe he’d follow Liara like a puppy, who knows – the important part is that the risk is there.

If she was going to step away from it, she'd either cut down on it, let it sit there or destroy it. Dread Pirate Roberts can't be easily replaced unless someone kills him, or he molds someone in the role, after all. Liara probably wouldn't be comfortable letting just anybody adopt the role. I'm leaning on her destroying it, once it's all over....

Destroying the network outright is a suboptimal solution, I think…but I agree, it’s also much safer than giving the reins to someone else (although I actually do have two certain someones in mind who might check all the boxes We’ll have to see how things play out.)

So, there are basically two alternatives to destroying it outright or giving it to someone else:

1. Give it to a ‘public’ espionage agency like the Spectres or SA intelligence. This is extremely unlikely to work, it’ll almost certainly be found out; or

2. Split up the network. This can be done in a few ways…

2a. Is a big split, with let’s say 3 people taking over somewhat equal parts. Cons: need more people, more people will be in the know or potentially able to figure it out, and some subset of the new heads may join forces.

2b. The other is parceling: select the most useful contacts and try to flip them to work for the good guys. Cons: hard to actually do, impossible to predict the result. Pros: even the worst case pretty much just means the whole network comes apart.

[Tyranniac]

lillitheris wrote...


No, I’m not comfortable with that either…although to be fair, the previous brokers didn’t start wars either, they just maybe ordered a few assassinations and such (yes yes, I know) and got filthy rich.

And how do you know that? 

Edit:

lillitheris wrote...

1. Give it to a ‘public’ espionage agency like the Spectres or SA intelligence. This is extremely unlikely to work, it’ll almost certainly be found out; or

 

The Spectres aren't really unified though. And the Alliance would probably use it for immoral things.

Modifié par Tyranniac, 26 mai 2012 - 11:12 .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

MidnightRaith wrote...

Theodoro wrote...

I've known for quite some time for one Team Gizka Restoration Project - not sure it's the same as the one you mentioned, but I wonder whether it was ever completed. Be sure to tell me whether the mod is decent, since there is certainly a massive chunk of content cut from KotOR 2 which, upon restoration, might just redeem the game for me. Other than that, I very liked the consistency of the setting - the much darker, more dangerous and ominous feel to the game, and Kreia was an incredible and complex character. And I also love HK-47 - I've yet to see someone who doesn't! So yeah - I might just be doing a KotOR playthrough soon!

Anyway, to add something that is Mass Effect and Liara related, I'd say that it's the depth of all the different species, their cultures and traditions, as well as the characters, that really make it stand out for me from every single other fictional setting in a game, movie or book. It's just so fleshed out that it is both incredibly alien yet believable and likeable.

TSLRCM has been finished and is very easy to download. I youtubed it and it seemed very impressive from what I saw. I'll be sure to tell you if it's as good as people claim when I get around to beating it though.

As for Liara, I believe she is one of the most complicated characters in ME. Miranda and Jack seem to be the only real competition she has for that title. Those three have the longest characterizations I've thought up....

Wow, I didn't know KOTOR 2 mods have been completed. Thanks for the link. I lost sight of it though I meant to check on it every now and then. ... not sure I'm in the mood for KOTOR 2 though since I know how it ends.

[Arcataye]

frudi wrote...

I think they're pretty obviously taking several jabs specifically at ME3's colourful endings .
Sadly, I never did get around to playing Witcher 2, even though I pre-ordered it from gog.com. The part about certain parts of the game being (un)available depending on your actions seems especially interesting, I wish there was more of that in games in general. It would certainly fit splendidly in ME3, with things like the Rachni subplot. Mah... chuck it in with all the other missed opportunities. And Witcher 2 will have to wait for me a while longer, I haven't had the will to play anything non-ME since ME3.

Aristobulus500 wrote...

What's funny is Witcher 2 is doing what Bioware NEEDS to do to regain their fan support. And without sacrificing artistic integrity!

Bioware's argument that adding or changing the ending (we honestly got only one) would break their artistic integrity is horrible.
Witcher 2 team does exactly that for their smaller (at least less vocal) crowd of fans asking for it. Nobody says they're breaking their art, instead everyone loves them for what they're doing.

What I find funny is that the Enhanced Edition patch alone is larger in file size than the whole Mass Effect 3. Well a large part of it is high quality textures, they take a lot of space. But whatever, still thought it was funny.

I too have the game, but still haven't got around to play it. Same problem as you frudi, I can't play anything non-ME right now. What is wrong with us?

Modifié par Arcataye, 26 mai 2012 - 11:27 .

[Rolling Flame]

frudi wrote...

MidnightRaith wrote...

Arcataye wrote...

Yeah, I think she would definitely cut down the time spent on it, or destroy the network.
The Shadow Broker's position is too powerful ("I could start a war!") for her to give it away. Would she be able to trust Feron with such power? I think that she would reason that it's the best for everyone to destroy the Shadow Broker network instead of giving it to anyone. Sure there would be others who would begin a new network, but instead of having everything ready, it would take hard work to start from nothing.

Ah, I forgot about this topic, I had wanted to touch on it....

Am I the only one that is uncomfortable with giving the reins to Feron? Yeah, Liara allows him to work for her, but how much does he actually do in comparison to her? He kinda proved in the comic that he is capable of changing is mind on important issues rather quickly. Sure, I like Feron, but I don't trust that he has the necessary morality to be a Shadow Broker that would act like Liara. I don't even think anyone has the necessary morality to SB like Liara starts out for any significant amount of time, Liara included.

If she was going to step away from it, she'd either cut down on it, let it sit there or destroy it. Dread Pirate Roberts can't be easily replaced unless someone kills him, or he molds someone in the role, after all. Liara probably wouldn't be comfortable letting just anybody adopt the role. I'm leaning on her destroying it, once it's all over....

Nah, you're not the only one; we hardly know Feron and while she obviously considers him a friend and ows him a great debt, with his past and shifting allegiances he doesn't exactly seem the most trustworthy type for such a position; and after two years of torture he's undoubtedly not the most psychologically stable either.

In fact, I don't see her passing on the network, whatever may be left of it, to anyone else either. I mean, she hardly trusts herself with the power, she obviously wouldn't trust just anyone else with it either. And the few people she might trust, she probably wouldn't want burdened with the stress and responsibility. So yeah, I agree, she'd probably just dissolve the network.

Well, thinking about it, maybe, just maaaybe, I could see her let Miranda take over...

If you don't romance her, Liara tells Shepard that she won't be giving up her position, to which Shepard replies that that is all the more reason to keep in touch. 

However, I have to agree that she'd probably crash the network if the push came to the shove. How exactly do you hand over that much power to someone?