Belatedly on the topic of wedding customs and all that: I think it’s neat to borrow things from earth cultures, but just outright basing an alien civilization on the romans or vikings or whatever always rubs me the wrong way.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 02:17
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Yeah, I have to agree - using it as a source of inspiration is one thing, just wholesale copying and pasting Earth culture is another.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 02:46
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Could any of you guys/gals honestly see Liara staying in a relationship with a pure renegade Shepard? This has always kinda bugged me. When I first began playing Mass Effect I wasn't entirely familiar with the importance of morality in regards to your Shepard and how Shepard's actions impacted those who serve under him/her, those you must serve to defend and how people view you in general as a result of your actions and tone. I just played the game like how I would deal with said dilemmas, people etc in real life which resulted in a mostly paragon Shep with a little renegade in there as sometimes you have to get your hands dirty.
Anyway back to pure renegade Shepard, I have only completed one pure renegade Shepard play-through, I have done other mostly renegade Shepard play-throughs in the past but only to see the different paths you could take. However this one pure renegade play-through, not so much the renegade actions of ME2 (although I can't deny, some of those choices were deplorable) but the renegade actions of ME3, that Shepard really disturbed me.:unsure:Shepard to me seemed dangerously unhinged and quite psychotic, it wasn't fun to play, it was hard to stomach at times. That Shepard for me is not a hero, alot of the actions of pure renegade Shep were not ruthless logic just the actions of a twisted sadist! A perfect example of this would be killing Mordin or the Ardat- Yakshi monastery mission.
Also that Shepard and Liara if bonded would meld frequently, I'd imagine that could have quite a detrimental effect on Liara's own mental health, receiving all those disturbing memories from Shepard.
I just can't really imagine a person like Liara, who would be the polar opposite of that Shepard being together. How could Liara respect that Shepard? This would seem like a classic example of love is blind to me, I don't know why else she would stay with that Shepard.
Anyway back to pure renegade Shepard, I have only completed one pure renegade Shepard play-through, I have done other mostly renegade Shepard play-throughs in the past but only to see the different paths you could take. However this one pure renegade play-through, not so much the renegade actions of ME2 (although I can't deny, some of those choices were deplorable) but the renegade actions of ME3, that Shepard really disturbed me.:unsure:Shepard to me seemed dangerously unhinged and quite psychotic, it wasn't fun to play, it was hard to stomach at times. That Shepard for me is not a hero, alot of the actions of pure renegade Shep were not ruthless logic just the actions of a twisted sadist! A perfect example of this would be killing Mordin or the Ardat- Yakshi monastery mission.
Also that Shepard and Liara if bonded would meld frequently, I'd imagine that could have quite a detrimental effect on Liara's own mental health, receiving all those disturbing memories from Shepard.
I just can't really imagine a person like Liara, who would be the polar opposite of that Shepard being together. How could Liara respect that Shepard? This would seem like a classic example of love is blind to me, I don't know why else she would stay with that Shepard.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 02:57
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CrimsonN7 wrote...
Could any of you guys/gals honestly see Liara staying in a relationship with a pure renegade Shepard? This has always kinda bugged me.
No.
I’m also not certain my war plans against evil machines would be made based on the suggestions of the guy with the terminator eyes.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 02:59
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ok hoodie ... will you share a full pic of this sculpting project when you are done? It looks cool just from the tease.
Will do, I actually finished painting it about an hour ago. I should have some pics up on DA tomorrow. It was a very long project and now that it's done I feel ... listless. I'll go back to sketching comics or something tomorrow, I'm kind of rubbish when I don't have something that I'm working on.
But for now I'm off to hang out with E.W. Shepard for the rest of the night. Re-reading "A Thessian's Whisper." Oh, and great update on "The Shepherdess and the Questing Beast," btw.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 03:04
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Aristobulus500 wrote...
Yeah, I have to agree - using it as a source of inspiration is one thing, just wholesale copying and pasting Earth culture is another.
The little scenario I wrote was only very loosely based on ancient Greek customs. In fact other than the procession & the general festive atmosphere, it differs significantly in some areas. I certainly don't mind anyone saying, "I don't like your head canon,' particularly since it is just something I jotted down in about 10 minutes without giving it much thought or editing. But it wasn't a 'copy & paste' job.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 03:17
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The only thing I can think of that would make Liara stay with super renegade Shepard is if she thought the end of the war would make Shepard a better person, if she still thought there was some good in him or her. It was just circumstance that was pushing Shepard to these . . . extremes and once the crisis was over things would return to normal.
Personally I find a really hardline renegade and Liara to not work out that well, someone like that would be far better suited to someone more malleable like Garrus. Liara does have an actual world view that is independent of Shepard, one you can't directly mold in the game like Garrus. She's certainly willing to cut Shepard some slack, given the enormous pressure, but she'd have to at least expect Shepard to adhere to some code of ethics. One that doesn't include gunning down unarmed civilians after their mother kills themselves trying to save said individual. My own renegade is only renegade in the sense that she a bit of a loose canon, but is still a genuinely good person she just doesn't like to admit it to people she doesn't know. That character still hits the major "Paragon" actions when the time rolls around, it's just by threatening and screaming at people.
I personally really like the moments in ME1 where Liara speaks against an action when she feels Shepard is going too far. Like exterminating the Rachini or gunning down the indoctrinated salarians on Virmire and my renegade does yield to her points and backs down. Sometimes Shepard can be a little too emotional at times and Liara for lack of a better term is looking after Shepard's "soul". Just wish that carried over to ME3 and Liara would try to object to Shepard doing something she finds incredibly unethical or needless.
Personally I find a really hardline renegade and Liara to not work out that well, someone like that would be far better suited to someone more malleable like Garrus. Liara does have an actual world view that is independent of Shepard, one you can't directly mold in the game like Garrus. She's certainly willing to cut Shepard some slack, given the enormous pressure, but she'd have to at least expect Shepard to adhere to some code of ethics. One that doesn't include gunning down unarmed civilians after their mother kills themselves trying to save said individual. My own renegade is only renegade in the sense that she a bit of a loose canon, but is still a genuinely good person she just doesn't like to admit it to people she doesn't know. That character still hits the major "Paragon" actions when the time rolls around, it's just by threatening and screaming at people.
I personally really like the moments in ME1 where Liara speaks against an action when she feels Shepard is going too far. Like exterminating the Rachini or gunning down the indoctrinated salarians on Virmire and my renegade does yield to her points and backs down. Sometimes Shepard can be a little too emotional at times and Liara for lack of a better term is looking after Shepard's "soul". Just wish that carried over to ME3 and Liara would try to object to Shepard doing something she finds incredibly unethical or needless.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 03:51
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Hmm.... A gift for the host.... I agree with what others have said. Liara may research the topic to death, but not be able to find anything. Spoggotten is often enjoyed with parmesan cheese. Perhaps she could run across the suggestion and a picture of someone overloading their plate with an excess amount and assume all humans enjoy drowning the already perfect dish with that horrid cheese.... Ahem, putting my obvious bias aside, perhaps she would bring a lot of cheese. Since she wouldn't be aware of what would be considered a proper amount. If Chakwas is bringing the wine, then the doctor could assume that Liara is simply trying to compliment her gift rather than attempt to impress Shepard. Save the poor thing from embarrassment.
Alright, now I am ready to post what I wanted to this morning before I f'd it up and got pissed.
I had wanted to talk more about Liara and the Shadow Broker, but I've been busy with work and my weekly crash when my body can no longer work under the insomnia I get and forces me to sleep and awaken all nice and cheery.
I was watching the LotSB cutscenes again and I was struck by how much Liara seems to enjoy the role. Not in the sense that she actively likes it and squees whenever she takes advantage of someone, but I got the sense that a dark part of her enjoys it. She says herself right after you defeat the Yahg that she wants the role, however I think that was more her speaking from the sense that she's spent the past 2 years suffering from Shepard's death and being tormented by chasing the SB. Perhaps she felt she deserved the role and would do much better than her predecessor.
Now I then compared her body language and tone from after the fight to your first visit with her on Hagalaz. A bit different, I can say. Here's a refresher if you need it. The way she runs her hand over the terminal came across to me as a tad posessive and the tone and hand gestures she used at "I can start a war," makes it very obvious that she is aware of the sheer power she commands and that the darker side of her personality may like that bit. After all, she grew up with Benezia, someone that is implied to have significant sway over the asari and well respected. It's very likely that the T'Soni name has a lot of weight behind it.
However, I don't believe Liara will ever gain that sort of command over any group of people under her own personality. Not to say that she's weak, but I don't think she has the stuff required to actively inspire people to her lead. She has the mind, but wouldn't necessarily be able to convince people of that. At least, not in the current stage of her life. Perhaps she drew parallels between what she is doing to what she was accustomed to in her childhood. Leading under the banner of anonymity is likely very appealing to her less sociable nature. She can do what is necessary without worrying about being Liara and saying the wrong thing. She can adopt her Shadow Broker personality and act as she thinks one in her position should.
As for the darker side to her personality I think she likes having the power to get people to do as she wants. It is likely that after Shepard's death, Liara may have been unusually vocal about Shepard's mission. She is the only one that couldn't let Shepard go and is the one that actively participated in Shepard's revival. Perhaps she was the most frustrated at the Alliance's and Council's reluctance to believe Shepard and became angry over the fact that she would not be able to sway them to believe at all. Anger is part of the grieving process and it doesn't seem she directed hers at Shepard much. Just aloofness before and during LotSB. Perhaps her anger was able to be directed outside of Shepard and towards those that didn't believe her.
So, if the above is feasible, it is likely that since she takes pleasure at the job and may just believe that she is the only one that can do it with a noble goal, then I don't think she'd have an easy time at letting go at all. Maybe Shepard would even have to discuss the issue with her. Not in the sense of, "Hey, it's me or it," but rather in the, "Hey, maybe you need to step down. You're getting too much into it." The Shadow Broker position is likely a corrupting one. Too much power and near complete anonymity. Provided Liara gets off that God forsaken planet and the relays aren't actually permanently crippled (God, what a stupid idea, BW....<_<) then Shepard and Liara are most likely going to be heavily involved in the reconstruction efforts. I don't think they're slated for retirement for at least the next year. They'd be heavily invested in it too. They saved the galaxy and wouldn't appreciate it if anyone tried to muck it up. The question is, would Liara find herself in the position to go just a little bit further to achieve the desired results with a few people and at what point is a little bit going to turn into quite a bit. Chances are, Shepard is going to have to give her some perspective at some point.
I'm not saying that Liara would go all Sith lord on us or anything, but rather start going back down that path we saw her on in ME2 and during LotSB at a few parts. She wouldn't claim that she likes being the SB in defense of herself, I feel. But, rather state that she could do so much overall good with the job. Shepard would probably be tasked with convincing her that they've done enough. I think she'd still want the blue babies and old marriage ending with Shepard, but she gets caught up in her work. And she's an asari. What are the chances that she begins to procrastinate on it?
On that note, I don't think she could just give it away. It's likely that she believes that no one would ever be able to conduct themselves in the role as she herself could. I see many a fic with Feron taking over as SB, but that just rubs me the wrong way. I don't think he'd go Sith lord on everyone either but I do think he'd be less paragon about it all. Could Liara give away that much power with a clean conscience? We get hints about just how bad a Shadow Broker can get. To the point that one worked with the Collectors which are pretty much an arm to the Reapers. Would she be aware of that? The more I think about it, the more I think she'd just crash the entire thing and if the galaxy really believes it needs someone like the SB, then they can start from scratch. Liara could then be freed from the role and all the implications and consequences.
EDIT: A Shadow Broker Liara for my Shadow Broker themed wall of text.
Alright, now I am ready to post what I wanted to this morning before I f'd it up and got pissed.
I had wanted to talk more about Liara and the Shadow Broker, but I've been busy with work and my weekly crash when my body can no longer work under the insomnia I get and forces me to sleep and awaken all nice and cheery.
I was watching the LotSB cutscenes again and I was struck by how much Liara seems to enjoy the role. Not in the sense that she actively likes it and squees whenever she takes advantage of someone, but I got the sense that a dark part of her enjoys it. She says herself right after you defeat the Yahg that she wants the role, however I think that was more her speaking from the sense that she's spent the past 2 years suffering from Shepard's death and being tormented by chasing the SB. Perhaps she felt she deserved the role and would do much better than her predecessor.
Now I then compared her body language and tone from after the fight to your first visit with her on Hagalaz. A bit different, I can say. Here's a refresher if you need it. The way she runs her hand over the terminal came across to me as a tad posessive and the tone and hand gestures she used at "I can start a war," makes it very obvious that she is aware of the sheer power she commands and that the darker side of her personality may like that bit. After all, she grew up with Benezia, someone that is implied to have significant sway over the asari and well respected. It's very likely that the T'Soni name has a lot of weight behind it.
However, I don't believe Liara will ever gain that sort of command over any group of people under her own personality. Not to say that she's weak, but I don't think she has the stuff required to actively inspire people to her lead. She has the mind, but wouldn't necessarily be able to convince people of that. At least, not in the current stage of her life. Perhaps she drew parallels between what she is doing to what she was accustomed to in her childhood. Leading under the banner of anonymity is likely very appealing to her less sociable nature. She can do what is necessary without worrying about being Liara and saying the wrong thing. She can adopt her Shadow Broker personality and act as she thinks one in her position should.
As for the darker side to her personality I think she likes having the power to get people to do as she wants. It is likely that after Shepard's death, Liara may have been unusually vocal about Shepard's mission. She is the only one that couldn't let Shepard go and is the one that actively participated in Shepard's revival. Perhaps she was the most frustrated at the Alliance's and Council's reluctance to believe Shepard and became angry over the fact that she would not be able to sway them to believe at all. Anger is part of the grieving process and it doesn't seem she directed hers at Shepard much. Just aloofness before and during LotSB. Perhaps her anger was able to be directed outside of Shepard and towards those that didn't believe her.
So, if the above is feasible, it is likely that since she takes pleasure at the job and may just believe that she is the only one that can do it with a noble goal, then I don't think she'd have an easy time at letting go at all. Maybe Shepard would even have to discuss the issue with her. Not in the sense of, "Hey, it's me or it," but rather in the, "Hey, maybe you need to step down. You're getting too much into it." The Shadow Broker position is likely a corrupting one. Too much power and near complete anonymity. Provided Liara gets off that God forsaken planet and the relays aren't actually permanently crippled (God, what a stupid idea, BW....<_<) then Shepard and Liara are most likely going to be heavily involved in the reconstruction efforts. I don't think they're slated for retirement for at least the next year. They'd be heavily invested in it too. They saved the galaxy and wouldn't appreciate it if anyone tried to muck it up. The question is, would Liara find herself in the position to go just a little bit further to achieve the desired results with a few people and at what point is a little bit going to turn into quite a bit. Chances are, Shepard is going to have to give her some perspective at some point.
I'm not saying that Liara would go all Sith lord on us or anything, but rather start going back down that path we saw her on in ME2 and during LotSB at a few parts. She wouldn't claim that she likes being the SB in defense of herself, I feel. But, rather state that she could do so much overall good with the job. Shepard would probably be tasked with convincing her that they've done enough. I think she'd still want the blue babies and old marriage ending with Shepard, but she gets caught up in her work. And she's an asari. What are the chances that she begins to procrastinate on it?
On that note, I don't think she could just give it away. It's likely that she believes that no one would ever be able to conduct themselves in the role as she herself could. I see many a fic with Feron taking over as SB, but that just rubs me the wrong way. I don't think he'd go Sith lord on everyone either but I do think he'd be less paragon about it all. Could Liara give away that much power with a clean conscience? We get hints about just how bad a Shadow Broker can get. To the point that one worked with the Collectors which are pretty much an arm to the Reapers. Would she be aware of that? The more I think about it, the more I think she'd just crash the entire thing and if the galaxy really believes it needs someone like the SB, then they can start from scratch. Liara could then be freed from the role and all the implications and consequences.
EDIT: A Shadow Broker Liara for my Shadow Broker themed wall of text.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 03:52
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Will do, I actually finished painting it about an hour ago. I should have some pics up on DA tomorrow. It was a very long project and now that it's done I feel ... listless. I'll go back to sketching comics or something tomorrow, I'm kind of rubbish when I don't have something that I'm working on.
Cool! I'll check your page out tomorrow.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 04:08
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*wearily walks back into room after a long but good day with the fam*
*grabs a chair, pulls it under him... sits down, leans back, cracks a tired but loving smile at everyone. Then after an exhaustive sigh, pushes out a few words*
Feels good to be back.![=]](https://lvlt.forum.bioware.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideways.png)
If I were Shepard, I feel like after a stressful and maybe even agonizing day, Liara would simply be the best thing to come home to. Her caring, encouraging, and overall beautiful personality would be a blessing after a rough time. I would be so thankful for her.
'Cuz times like now, a simple hug would be wonderful.
*grabs a chair, pulls it under him... sits down, leans back, cracks a tired but loving smile at everyone. Then after an exhaustive sigh, pushes out a few words*
Feels good to be back.
If I were Shepard, I feel like after a stressful and maybe even agonizing day, Liara would simply be the best thing to come home to. Her caring, encouraging, and overall beautiful personality would be a blessing after a rough time. I would be so thankful for her.
'Cuz times like now, a simple hug would be wonderful.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 05:02
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adneate wrote...
I personally really like the moments in ME1 where Liara speaks against an action when she feels Shepard is going too far. Like exterminating the Rachini or gunning down the indoctrinated salarians on Virmire and my renegade does yield to her points and backs down. Sometimes Shepard can be a little too emotional at times and Liara for lack of a better term is looking after Shepard's "soul". Just wish that carried over to ME3 and Liara would try to object to Shepard doing something she finds incredibly unethical or needless.
Agreed, renegade Shep definitely needed someone to rein him/her in at times, Liara could of openly challenged Shepard's actions without fear of being reprimanded as she is not a subordinate. I would like to think a bonded Shep would listen to her wise counsel if provided and would eventually yield to her argument. And if that fails and Shepard still refused to listen to reason Liara could resort to a lil blackmail, ban Shep from her bed till he/she sees sense, I think Shep would quickly backdown if that threat was on the table ha!
Just kidding, although an effective tactic I don't think Liara would resort to that, but it would keep Shep in line, you know whatever it takes for the good of the galaxy:D
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 05:14
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Could any of you guys/gals honestly see Liara staying in a relationship with a pure renegade Shepard? This has always kinda bugged me. When I first began playing Mass Effect I wasn't entirely familiar with the importance of morality in regards to your Shepard and how Shepard's actions impacted those who serve under him/her, those you must serve to defend and how people view you in general as a result of your actions and tone. I just played the game like how I would deal with said dilemmas, people etc in real life which resulted in a mostly paragon Shep with a little renegade in there as sometimes you have to get your hands dirty.
I've talked about this before but I absolutely do not think Renegade Shep and Liara make any sense together. I firmly believe that this is one thing DA:O did right - your moral choices could sway certain characters entirely against you, and I believe that Liara definitely should've been turned away from a Renegade Shepard - she absolutely should not have been a romance option for that Shep.
Now, that's not to say I think she should actively turn against him and try to kill him or anything, like some characters would do in DA:O...as I think that's too far. Even if I say a character should be able to be brought to hating Shepard because of his actions...they all, including Liara, know about the Reapers and know what's at stake and know that Shepard is the only chance at stopping them.
But Renegade Shepard is straight up a sociopathic villain, he's simply out-villain'd by the Reapers. So it really feels off to see a character like Liara be all nice and friendly with him like he's a good person.
But Renegade Shep I truly feel is a monster, and he's disturbing. He's meant to be a Han Solo character, but in the end he is just a villain that murders people for pleasure and does many indefensible things. The Renegade interrupts throughout ME2 do a good job of portraying him as a Han Solo action hero, but many of the Renegade dialogue options? Straight up evil, and I just can't...see Liara liking that kind of person. She should, by all rights, be absolutely horrified by him and traumatized that she has to work with that kind of a person to save the galaxy.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 05:19
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Using sex as a weapon in relationships never ends well ... If Liara tried that on EW it would create problems. Shepard also knows that Liara is not always right so she doesn't follow her blindly. Shepard may ask for advice on occasion but she makes the final decision in all things. This creates problems on occasion ... but such is life.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 05:32
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I agree that a full on Renegade Shep seems to be a poor match for Liara. Their personalities just seem to be so much at odds that it feels out of character for Liara to be interested in a committed relationship with him/her.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 05:42
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*sips tea and munches on crumpets*
Tis always great to drop in here, so many things to read and see!
Tis always great to drop in here, so many things to read and see!
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 05:58
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PMC65 wrote...
Using sex as a weapon in relationships never ends well ... If Liara tried that on EW it would create problems. Shepard also knows that Liara is not always right so she doesn't follow her blindly. Shepard may ask for advice on occasion but she makes the final decision in all things. This creates problems on occasion ... but such is life.
Although I agree it's not a healthy thing to do but pure renegade Shep when held up beside Liara is a monster and I would want Liara to keep him/her grounded in reality. Renegade Shep is a loose canon and needs Liara's calming influence and wise counsel in his/her life. For me renegade Shep is almost impossible to defend, I would cheer Liara on if she was allowed to give renegade Shep a piece of her mind, it's long overdue, someone had to take him/her down a peg or two, who better then your bondmate.
At least you'd respect her opinion and know she's telling it like it is. Also in regards to the sex-ban threat perhaps renegade Shep's bad behaviour is rubbing off on Liara, time to fight fire with fire. Once again I'm joking, no need to read too much into my warped sense of humour:D
Picture of renegade Shep meeting her daughter, love the Star Wars nod;)
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 06:00
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CrimsonN7 wrote...
Although I agree it's not a healthy thing to do but pure renegade Shep when held up beside Liara is a monster and I would want Liara to keep him/her grounded in reality. Renegade Shep is a loose canon and needs Liara's calming influence and wise counsel in his/her life. For me renegade Shep is almost impossible to defend, I would cheer Liara on if she was allowed to give renegade Shep a piece of her mind, it's long overdue, someone had to take him/her down a peg or two, who better then your bondmate.
I'm in the process of rolling a Renegade Shep that is slowly influenced by Liara through the course of the series. It's looking to be quite interesting. I think I'll make Renegade decisions in the early/mid-game, unless Liara voices an objection and make another choice according. Using her as a MoralChain, I suppose.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 06:29
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Woo Hoo only 30 more pages to go then i'll stop procrastinating and start writing.....
Also there were way to many fan fics posted while i was away and i just read most of them so can i just say good... great job to all of you because i don't really have the brainpower or time to comment on each one individually although i believe the ones i read were Furean's, Sgt.Snookies, MidnightRainth, and Lilitheris's(it gets a bit confusing when you have multiple tabs open and peoples FF.net id's don't match their BSN ones).... Greggy, Akernis i still haven't gotten to yours.yet but i will fear not.
and now to dive back into this thread....... goddess i don't even feel like throwing a blue baby at PMC this time why did you guys have to post so much when i left:(
Also there were way to many fan fics posted while i was away and i just read most of them so can i just say good... great job to all of you because i don't really have the brainpower or time to comment on each one individually although i believe the ones i read were Furean's, Sgt.Snookies, MidnightRainth, and Lilitheris's(it gets a bit confusing when you have multiple tabs open and peoples FF.net id's don't match their BSN ones).... Greggy, Akernis i still haven't gotten to yours.yet but i will fear not.
and now to dive back into this thread....... goddess i don't even feel like throwing a blue baby at PMC this time why did you guys have to post so much when i left:(
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 06:33
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I am in such a pissy mood right now. What's goin' on here?
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 06:43
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Logan Cloud wrote...
I am in such a pissy mood right now. What's goin' on here?
We’ve been collectively failing at choosing a present for E.W.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 06:44
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EW?
And it's nothing. I just need some time to cool down. Thanks for asking though.
And it's nothing. I just need some time to cool down. Thanks for asking though.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 06:54
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Logan Cloud wrote...
EW?
And it's nothing. I just need some time to cool down. Thanks for asking though.
PMC's Femshep in the fic A Thessian's Whisper.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 06:58
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So... I don't understand. We're looking for a gift for her? For the story I assume?
If you give me the context I'll try to help.
If you give me the context I'll try to help.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 07:08
Arcataye
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I don't have much to say, but great text. You really took some time to analyze and write about it.MidnightRaith wrote...
I was watching the LotSB cutscenes again and I was struck by how much Liara seems to enjoy the role.
*lots of text*
I too can't see her giving it away, it's just too much power.
Logan Cloud wrote...
So... I don't understand. We're looking for a gift for her? For the story I assume?
If you give me the context I'll try to help.
PMC65 wrote...
I am working on a chapter where Liara is going to a dinner party at Shepard's place and while I have an idea on what she would bring (no, they are not in a romance yet) ... what do you see her bringing if she went shopping with Chakwas on the Arcturus Station? Just curious as to what other Liara fans could see Liara picking as a gift for her hostess.
Modifié par Arcataye, 28 mai 2012 - 07:09 .
