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kumquats wrote...

Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

I've been thinking of importing my paragon Shep into ME3 (though she's a bit of a pain in the arse, I much prefer renegade Shep) now I'm worrying about Kaidan's chances of making it through ME3.

Dunno if I could kill Garrus, would just make me too sad. Getting Kasumi killed in the SM was bad enough and her voice always seemed to turn up in the ME3 dreams just to rub it in.


Palavan

Killing Garrus for that adorable smile on Palavan? Worth it, but I wouldn't do it a second time.
Liara will also talk about Garrus, which is sad.

Just imagine I had 0 Squadmates, the dreams freaked me out....

@Yuqi, will Javik ever shoot the VS, do you know that?


Yes, he did for me anyway. 

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I wasn't trying to say that Traviss didn't do all of the things you described and i do agree that some of the multi author series are hard to stomach with the different writing styles.  I love all of the one author series though, I think I've mentioned before that Zahn, Stackpole and Drew are some of my Favorite authors and they have written some of my favorite EU books and series although Alliston did a good job picking up the reins for X-Wing IMO, and was just trying to say that I can forgive her work in LOTF for what she's done on a whole with fleshing out one of probably the three biggest warrior cultures in the Star Wars Canon, the Mandalorians (with the Jedi and Sith being the other two and lets face it as much as the jedi might not want to be there often looked upon as warriors first).  and I don't think that Republic commando came out bad due to her anti-jedi biases or anything, although she did leave the series on a cliffhanger to go write those stupid little clone wars novella that my 8-9 year old cousins enjoy reading...  I definately should have worded that better though so you got a clearer picture on my opinion of Traviss in the first place.

Also i have your fic support group open in one of like 20 tabs of fics and other interesting links that i missed while on vacation.  but as i said I've gotten tired of trying to play catch up and would love some kind of mini summary of the last 30 or so pages please that way i can just get back to writing, reading, and blue baby tossing (At PMC only of course:devil:)


See, that's the thing. You were exposed to Traviss before her atrocious work in LotF and got a good idea of what she wants to do with the universe. I read LotF first and got that huge kick in the guts she delivered and now I can't stomach her at all. She literally ruined her own books for me. I know that the Jedi have their flaws, but I don't need someone like Traviss to ball all of those flaws up and shove them down my throat. She's probably a great writer in her own genre. I could see that when I was able to ignore all of her biases and obvious attitude in her writing. However, she needs to stay in that genre.

She is not an author that needs to be at the forefront of the EU media. If they really wanted to push her work for her talents, then LA and Del Rey need to focus their time on actually advertising her stuff rather than shoehorn her into a series that she in incapable of writing unbiased and well. There is nothing wrong in knowing where you shine and where you don't. She shines with the Mandalorians and she doesn't with anything related to the Jedi. I see what you're trying to say about her, but I probably will never like her after what she did with LotF.

Man, what did we talk about in the last thirty pages? Ah, wait, now I remember. We had a huge discussion about the endings and each choice. (Didn't participate in that one much.) We also had a minor discussion about IT and whether we like/are neutral towards/or hate it and we had that fanfic discussion. Then we just had a nice discussion about how asari age exactly and how long their gestation cycle would be.

As for the Fanfic Thread, credit for that goes to lillitheris. Great idea on her part. :D

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Welcome back Moreeman!!!!!! Heard any Liara jokes lately?

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kyg_20X6 wrote...

"Alive..." by Mallyx :wub:

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That's just wonderful. :wub:

*continues to ignore the endings and pretend that this is what really occurred*

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Yuqi wrote...

Yes, he did for me anyway. 


Ha! I kind of got the feeling that EDI has a higher priority, so I used Vega a lot in this playthrough, I wasn't sure about Yavik, because he is only a DLC character.

The only time nothing interesting happened was Rannoch or maybe I missed something.

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Yuqi wrote...

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@frudi Lol that last screenpic is hilarious, Liara my face is up here:D

Found this funny lil comic strip about the romantic woes of femshep, I'm just surprised no crew member has called Shep up on sexual harassment charges yet:police:

http://browse.devian...set=48#/d32prok


ROFL

@yesikareyes it's off to a good start. 

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*snipped Liara is not happy Pic*



Lol that somic is very humerous and pretty accurate I think.Image IPB

Finished a MP game on Goddess and its very nice. My only complaint about the map is just the amount of rooms it makes it hard to find a good spot to set up choke points and control that battlefield. Extraction with reapers on silver is a beast too. Don't think we would have made it without the 2 Vanguards and me as the a Justicar. Biotic Explosions FTW!!!! I really hate how lucky people are with their equipment packs. I'm still waiting for the Asari Adept but I have all of the Resurgance characters.Image IPB

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@Yuqi

Thanks! I posted in on fanfiction.net!!! LOL I'm a badass lol

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yesikareyes wrote...

@Yuqi

Thanks! I posted in on fanfiction.net!!! LOL I'm a badass lol


I also thought it started off well. Explores an area that not many writers like to go into. Most have the fic start up with Shepard awakening and then they all put the galaxy back together. You went away from that and incorporated Liara more and I like that. I don't see many fics with Liara's point of view. Most are Shepard's. The Liara and Miranda triangle should be interesting because I really like both characters. Miranda really sees too much hate. "She's a cold **** unless you romance her." Eh... not really. I've never played a ManShep in ME2 and I was able to pick up on how complicated she really is.

Anyway, I have one gripe about the formatting. You repeated a sentence by accident in I believe the first paragraph.

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MidnightRaith wrote...

I also thought it started off well. Explores an area that not many writers like to go into. Most have the fic start up with Shepard awakening and then they all put the galaxy back together. You went away from that and incorporated Liara more and I like that. I don't see many fics with Liara's point of view. Most are Shepard's. The Liara and Miranda triangle should be interesting because I really like both characters. Miranda really sees too much hate. "She's a cold **** unless you romance her." Eh... not really. I've never played a ManShep in ME2 and I was able to pick up on how complicated she really is.

Anyway, I have one gripe about the formatting. You repeated a sentence by accident in I believe the first paragraph.


Thanks for your insightful review! :o Much appreciated and more to come! I promise that Liara and Miranda would have equal exposure. 

I also fixed that formatting problem and it's up in Fanfiction.net

Redemption After the Storm.

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Hey, Yesi, just wanted to let you know that I've read what you gave to me earlier and I forgot to mention that there's a ton of missing commas.

That intentional?

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MidnightRaith wrote...

moreeman06 wrote...

*snip*


See, that's the thing. You were exposed to Traviss before her atrocious work in LotF and got a good idea of what she wants to do with the universe. I read LotF first and got that huge kick in the guts she delivered and now I can't stomach her at all. She literally ruined her own books for me. I know that the Jedi have their flaws, but I don't need someone like Traviss to ball all of those flaws up and shove them down my throat. She's probably a great writer in her own genre. I could see that when I was able to ignore all of her biases and obvious attitude in her writing. However, she needs to stay in that genre.

She is not an author that needs to be at the forefront of the EU media. If they really wanted to push her work for her talents, then LA and Del Rey need to focus their time on actually advertising her stuff rather than shoehorn her into a series that she in incapable of writing unbiased and well. There is nothing wrong in knowing where you shine and where you don't. She shines with the Mandalorians and she doesn't with anything related to the Jedi. I see what you're trying to say about her, but I probably will never like her after what she did with LotF.

Man, what did we talk about in the last thirty pages? Ah, wait, now I remember. We had a huge discussion about the endings and each choice. (Didn't participate in that one much.) We also had a minor discussion about IT and whether we like/are neutral towards/or hate it and we had that fanfic discussion. Then we just had a nice discussion about how asari age exactly and how long their gestation cycle would be.

As for the Fanfic Thread, credit for that goes to lillitheris. Great idea on her part. :D


ok well then thanks Lilitheris for another great fanfic thread,  goddess I don't want to read anymore is there anyway we could possibly slow down for a week so that i can just read all of these fanfics, I have like 10 from this thread on tap and another ten or so from my DA account dealing with Liara/Shep, Tali/Shep, and Merril/Hawke to read.


I completely understand were your coming from on Traviss I've never had that happen to me with an author but if I for example happened to read Deception first I would never have read any of the Dark Forces novelizations by Dietz or Legion of the Dammed for that matter, just because of how horrible Deception was.   and as you said if they wanted her at the forefront putting out good material they wouldn't have taken her off of writing Imperial Commando which was suppossed to be either a one novel or duology bookend to republic commando and wrap that series up but alas I'll never know what happens now......

but ok i missed some more ending discussion and from what i got up to the question was posed whether or not Liara or Jack would win in a biotic fight and this...  


Tyranniac wrote...

 I hereby declare an offical change of topic. That's right, I'm allowed to do that. Anyone who says something about the ending choices will be responded to with a picture of sad Liara.

I now have a question:

In your opinions, what does Liara think of the following:

Joker
Earth
The Citadel
Legion
Mordin
Kirrahe
The Mako
Miranda
Jewelry

 

As for the Liara vs. Jack thing it depends on the situation.  Liara might be the more tactical but Jack has always been shown to have more raw strength.  IMO it comes down to how long the battle lasts.  In history the best tacticians and strategic players whether they were Lee, Rommel, and even going into sports Roger Federer and the Gracie family come to mind  always were good at winning the first battles and ending things quickly but whenever they got up against an opponent that was powerful enought to push the pace and had enough reserves to keep that pace off they normally come out worse for wear, Lee eventually lost no matter how many battles he won during the American Civil War he couldn't replace supplies and men at the rate the Union could,   Rommel had the same problems in Africa,  he won battle after battle but eventually it got to the point where they wouldn't give hime enought supplies to replenish his forces and his troops were worn and ragged and ceased to be an effective fighting force against a continually replenishing Allied force leading to Germany's loss in North Africa.  and well the gracie's are great technical fighters and great at strategizing but countless times when they went up agains younger and mostly larger opponents they were beaten (I'm talking modern MMA and ignoring the first few UFC tourney's were Royce Gracie basically dominated)  and Roger Federer has become recognized as one of the best if not the best tennis players ever with his technical skill and strategy on the court but when it comes to opponents that can outpower him while performing at a level that isn't necessarily as good technically as he is he has a losing record and alot of those losses are hard fought five+ sets.  

So after that lengthy and probably unneeded explanation my prediction is Jack after a long battle but If Liara can find a way to end it quick like as someone suggested a stasis field, which only Asari and Shep have been seen to use, and then perhaps a few detonations then she'll take it.

As for the Liara's Reaction to....

Joker:  the perfect helmsman, cocky, bad jokes, and loyal to a fault.  and I'm pretty sure she forgives him for Shepard's death goddess and apparantly shepardknow that Joker has been carrying that guilt on him for way to long.

Earth:  I guess it depends on the Shepard to guage Liara's reaction.  if the shepard has no strong connections i guess its mourning a cultural loss as well as what is to come for everyone else.  If it's earthborn than i guess Liara will have a stronger reaction to seeing her lovers home burned.  Although i think that no matter what Liara would have loved to go to Earth at some point and take in the sights whether it be architecture museums are digging in some secluded little sandbox for dinosaur bones and mummy's

The Citadel:  I'm pretty sure that I've placed Liara and Shep in a Presidium Apartment overlooking the gardens and have actually put them as having a date in the Gardens in a few of my fics so my opinions are pretty clear on how I think Liara feels about the Presidium (shameless plug, go read my fics:lol:)

Legion:  I'm just going to say that she trusts Shepard in trusting Legion because I'm not sure they really ever had that personal of a rapport although if he survived maybe they would have developed one

Mordin:  Who doesn't love our mad scientist:D  but i agree she wouldn't have like his original work on the Genophage although she would have admired his attempts to correct his mistakes

Kirrahe:  He has a cloaca that one but i could see Liara applauding him along side Shepard in an all salarian rendition of Henry V,  plus He is a pretty good shot and willing to essentially commit treason to support Shepard so that's worth tons of brownie points

The Mako:  ummm.....  Liara's not getting into any vehicle that Shepard thinks he can drive

Miranda:  I guess they respect eachother and might even develop a friendship later on but Miranda isn't as bad or shallow as everyone says and she does have a heart its just reserved for the few that are special to her in life.  Something that Liara can definately understand and if vanilla ME2 is to be believed might also reciprocate (ever faced and asari commando unit before...... then quick kiss and smile for shep with a "Nyxseras hold my calls").

Jewlery:  I'm not gonna touch on this other than to say that My shep would get her a bonding ceremony bracelet for the ages, no big jewels popping out or anything in your face, but nice beautiful flowing designs accentuated by a few inlaid jewels.  just nice natural understated beauty perfect for the most naturally beautiful creature to pass into any of our minds

and here's a Liara for the long post

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#39012
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PMC65 wrote...

Welcome back Moreeman!!!!!! Heard any Liara jokes lately?


no can't say i have,  please enlighten me i could use a good joke  *takes a sip of whiskey and lays head back against chair with eyes closed*

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IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

Hey, Yesi, just wanted to let you know that I've read what you gave to me earlier and I forgot to mention that there's a ton of missing commas.

That intentional?


Hey dude! I actually rewrote the whole first Chapter :o

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PMC65 wrote...

Welcome back Moreeman!!!!!! Heard any Liara jokes lately?


It wasn't lately, but probably the most funny thing I have read about Liara.



This is a serious question:

OK, I've played through a few times and I've seen some youtube vids, and I was wondering why the alien
is the only one that doesn't wear underwear when she gets intimate with Shepard?

- There's a reason they call it an Asari Commando...


I know it's old, but it always cracks me up. :lol:

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kumquats wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Welcome back Moreeman!!!!!! Heard any Liara jokes lately?


It wasn't lately, but probably the most funny thing I have read about Liara.



This is a serious question:

OK, I've played through a few times and I've seen some youtube vids, and I was wondering why the alien
is the only one that doesn't wear underwear when she gets intimate with Shepard?

- There's a reason they call it an Asari Commando...


I know it's old, but it always cracks me up. :lol:


that joke is always good for a laugh, and know I'll sleep and hope that i don't return tomorrow with more to read, I just caught up to the thread (gave up and asked for a summary is the same as caught up right..... right????)   and just started in on the list of fan fic that I have so I'm not in the mood for reading 10 + pages when i get up.  

Also CrazyGreggy I left a comment on "First Secret"  but I might as well tell you here that I loved it:D

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kumquats - that is funny!

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PMC65 wrote...

*snip*
And one just for Moreeman ...

http://t2.gstatic.co...yRCJOjXArnH_dpA
facepunch.com


Also wow.... just wow PMC..... *shakes head and tips a glass of whiskey into opened gullet*....I....I don't even know what to do with this....I guess this would be a justified cause to bring in the 5xB wouldn't it....


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by:  Sakka88bln
Image IPB By:  VerticleSmile
Image IPB By:  Thelivingmachine
Image IPB By:  LiveandLoveArt
Image IPB By:  Hoodie-Gypsy


And to think i said i would give up on reading through the rest of the pages

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MidnightRaith wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Wait! Are you trying to tell me that your Shepard is not allergic to chocolate? Really? Don't be ridiculous!

Next think you will tell me is that there are Shepards not madly in love with Tali!

Oh, the blasphemy!!!!!!

*looks down at Moreeman passed out* Now see what you have done?

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Pshhh.... My Shepard (:P) has chocolate stashed in her armor. She and Liara share it during missions while Garrus watches sadly. :lol:


haha and this too PMC..... really i might have a job for you in my court once that rancor finishes eating Walter and Hudson my former jesters.:P

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Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

I don't think I'd be able to form words in the presence of clothed Liara, I'd have no chance of making any sense in the presence of naked Liara.

I wouldn't have a problem, but she might have... as she didn't seem to like Joker asking about the head crests either.
I'd probably risk getting thrown to a wall with biotics just to touch her head.
:pinched:

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Arcataye wrote...

Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

I don't think I'd be able to form words in the presence of clothed Liara, I'd have no chance of making any sense in the presence of naked Liara.

I wouldn't have a problem, but she might have... as she didn't seem to like Joker asking about the head crests either.
I'd probably risk getting thrown to a wall with biotics just to touch her head.
:pinched:


Lol I would rather have the "punishment" from that one GIF that Neehs made with Shepard rubbing her head crests. That would make it worth it.Image IPB

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Yuqi wrote...

Yes, he did for me anyway. 


Ha! I kind of got the feeling that EDI has a higher priority, so I used Vega a lot in this playthrough, I wasn't sure about Yavik, because he is only a DLC character.

The only time nothing interesting happened was Rannoch or maybe I missed something.


Javik says some good stuff on surkesh too.  I <3 Javik ,  his like Renegade Shepard's  bro, yo!

@yesikareeyes

Just try and avoid biotic, erm, extentions.  Actually just try and avoid anything that sounds like a juvinile male ******- ****** fantasy.  That one in the helldiver fanfic, where the writers shepard used biotics to extend his performance stick. 

It's scenes like that, and the super-extension of Liara's  chest  fic , that give mshep/liara a bad rep.

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Yuqi wrote...

Javik says some good stuff on surkesh too.  I <3 Javik ,  his like Renegade Shepard's  bro, yo!


Yes, Liara and Javik were my teammates for my insanity run.
I love how Liara is part of his character arc.

But I can't deny it, I'm a little bit creeped out when Javik makes a comment about Liara/Shep and pheromones.
Sometimes I fear that Javik knows, too much.

I would love to see both of them working on their book in the future, I think this could be hilarious.

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The whole ESP thing Javik had going on was a little silly.

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I actually kind of liked how brutally honest Javik was

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Heres a screenie of my cannon Shep and Liara :)

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Come on Javik, I just wanna be your friend:whistle:

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